see also : 4th-from-Chandra = defensive, culturally-rooted, seasonal-calendar, routinized, patriotic, ethno-nationalistic, comfort-seeking, home-loving, foundational, property-owning
AUM som somaya namah
AUM hreem shreem chandraya namah
OM shram sreem shraum sah chandraya namah
Planetary Regulator of
Bandhu-sthana * Sukha-daya
in the Twelve Bhava
role of the bandhu-pathi
basis of life, ethnicity, vehicles, roadways, the lay of the land, the farmlands, the folks.
Nascita di Venere by Botticelli, c 1486
Domain occupied by the Planetary Ruler of the Fourth Bhava
Everyone is a guardian of some aspect of human life and culture. The commitment to stewardship is an ancient promise to protect and nurture the portion of civilization for which one feels the deepest affection.
Bhava-4 has an extensive terrain including cultural stability through habituated rhythms and routines, seasonal festivals, protection of the vulnerable, caretaking, owned property, the rights of native peoples, parenting, schoolteaching, transportation and vehicles.
Bandhu-bhava nurtures the roots and soothes the mind via maintaining the ebb-and-flow of a predictable Way of Life.
Ethic * Ethnic
The bhava containing bandh-pathi-4 expresses a rooted attachment to all things nourishing, soothing, local and familiar:
bandesha-4 shows the security based in socialization via schooling , and is benefic.
Along with bhava-4, the bandhu-pathi shows foundational material and psychological conditions of the childhood home.
Emotional conditions prevailing in childhood home, see also lord of 4th-from-Chandra (but this is more accurately the Mother's childhood home, which Mom then recreates as a familiar culture, when raising her child .)
Nevertheless Kuja the karaka for movement, engines, drilling is motivated to pursue landed property holdings, fleets of vehicles (boats, cars, airplanes).
Although Kuja can be impatient with the rhythmic repetitions (Chandra natural bandesha-4 ) of schoolwork, Mangala as bandesha-4 if well-placed can assist obtainment of educational diploma. Such a student may need to be very active physically in order to successfully complete a sit-down course of study.
Das commentary says to expect good results from bandhu-pati in regard to schooling, houses, fields, and conveyances, if:
"The lord of the 4 is in a kendra
AND the lord of the 4 is considered Strong in Shad Bala."
"Happiness, education, conveyances, lands, agriculture, etc., will thrive well.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local politics, drama, games
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local rhythms of life, patterns, routines, boundaries
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-1 * identified with protecting customary movement energies, local pathways, guards activities of housing-fishing-farming-transport
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local relationships between individuals and groups
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-1 * identified with protecting the local institutions; maintains the social order of the place of settlement
bandesha-4 in Bhava 1 * Patriotism, Home and Country, ethno-centrism
The ruler of bhava-4 Guardians and Stewards of the Place of Settlement has entered bhava-1 identity-appearance:
one's choice of external vehicle (fleshbody, boat, car) signifies the identity and often one flaunts it
one nearly always serves as an agent of shelter, protection, rhythm, routine, security;
if not a parent, then as a defender or a teacher of fundamental education
one protects the land, its areas of settlement, its roadways and shipping routes, its farmlands and fisheries, its homes and schools
identified with the patriotic defense of the land and its ethnic peoples; protection of boundaries, fences, membranes and crossings between cultural areas
bandhu-pathi-4 residing in radical lagna (or yuti Chandra) brings into the personality (1) matters of bhava-4 guardianship, stewardship, protectionism, sheltering, culture-roots and ethnicity.
bandesha-4 in 10th-from-svakshetra = The Patriot
Native is socially identified with
Culturally rooted in the habitual ways of a people grounded in their historic lands. Deeply patriotic .
Others may look to one as a source of stability, defense, security, and belongingness.
Personality-identified with parenting, house-holding, school-teaching, protection, deep roots and foundations of life .
Bandesha-4 in 10th-from-foundational bandesha-4 . May serve as a parental leader (10) of the flocks who quest for shelter and protection.
Transportation, vehicles, roadways
Surya-Vrishabha located in bhava-1
Bandesha-4 in 1 = Surya in 10th from svabhava
= a radiant placement for treasuries of value accrued from real-estate, building ownership, construction, shipping, agriculture, schooling, borders, walls, local infrastructure, policing, local politics, transportation, and vehicles.
However, Professor Surya is rather uncomfortable in Rishabha-rashi which is the rashi of His enemy Professor Bright Bhrigu.
Surya prefers to apply His own beliefs and judgments without feeling restrained by Zukra's diplomatic concern for the interests of others
Generally successful but experience some frustration. One's own convictions, especially in regard to treasuries of wealth and knowledge, are not always shared by partners in business or marriage.
if bandesha-4 = Surya, Guru, or Mangala, one's own visage may come to symbolize the wisdom (Guru) or aristocracy (Mangala) or glory and grandeur (Surya) of the home culture
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-1 * one symbolizes the home culture's parental behavior toward other cultures; paternalism; patronizing care.
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-1 * one symbolizes the "message" of the homeland cultural roots
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-1 one represents the national root-culture's self-defense against cultural invaders and military conquest of challengers
May be called vocationally to active territorial-guardian roles such as military defense, police-work or fence-building
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-1 * dig-bala * one may represent the most inclusive, expansive optimistic image of the home culture; home and property ownership. A person with whom many (Guru) can identify, who represents the cultural model for abundance, wisdom and growth
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-1 * one provides an iconic representation of home, shelter, parenting, and protection in a gracious, aesthetic, agreeable way; associated with a beautiful home or luxury properties; well-balanced roadways and shipping.
Zukra-1 may represents the core values of the home culture when conducting negotiations. Balances the rights of all parties with special attention to the concerns of native populations.
May prefer luxurious or beautifully designed homes, graciously appointed vehicles, smooth roadways, and be personally representative of attractive or valuable lands and properties
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-1 * one represents the home culture's material practicality and survival skills; one represents the security of basic food, clothing, shelter and social dignity; one symbolizes the home culture's attempt to create an orderly situation for the common people.
if bandesha-4 = yuti Rahu , guardianship of the home culture with elements of exotic influence
A natural foundational-customary teacher. Identified with schooling.
Icon of lawful rhythms and routines. The bandhesha represents the land, its people, and their ethnic roots, their particular type of schooling or upbringing, proficiency in practice of a set of culturally embedded manners and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms.
Like the ocean tides (4) cultural norms are not fixed in place. They exist in a predictable rhythmically oscillating range.
Symbol of protection from threats, sought by the weak and appreciated by the strong.
Must have physical vitality and competitive energy in order to feel protected and secure.
If bandhupathi-4 is comfortably placed, schooling and social foundations is proportionally fortunate.
"I am my folk roots, my vehicles and shelters, my ability to protect and care for the homeland, and my schooling in customary ways."
The foundation : mother, parent, home, cultural capital, social and emotional security, extraordinary and passionate patriotism.
The social identity is infused with the qualities of socializing levels of education, indoctrination, licensing and diplomas, cultural validation, landed property, buildings, furniture, schools, shelter, protection, caring, nurturing, clothing, vehicles, early childhood education, basic socialization by the mother and grandmother, cultural agreement, roots.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-2
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-2
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-2
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-2 * foundational families * gain via discourse about roots culture
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-2 * gain via lands, properties, settlements
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-2 * gain via music, voice, song, treasure, knowledge of history
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-2
bandesha-4 in Bhava 2 * national and local security obtained via Sustenance * values * food * acquisitions * collected wealth * treasuries of knowledge * Skandha
musical, rhythmic, pulses, beats; a singer, a cantor, and who earns from musical pulse, or from the ethnic rhythms such as schoolteaching or settlements, or from the pulse of the vehicle wheels turning, because ruler of 4 occupies 11th-from-4th
May have expertise in matters of provenance = histories (2) of ownership (4)
foundational families * family history
Financial skills (2) stabilize (4) and educate (4) an ethnic (4) community (11)
profitable lands = 2 = 11th-from-4
Treasuries of storage: history, stories, restorations, restaurants
affluence and historical knowledge, eyes, voice, face, and song
Properties sustained by profits from Music and Song
Properties sustained by profits from Speech and Face
bandesha-4 in 11th from svabhava = dhana-sthana = indicates gainfulness and friendship in the assembly of historians, bankers, animal breeders, and those who "keep" the knowledge of the past.
Profitability through making connections with curators, collectors, storytellers, lineage-bearers.
Gain through matters of bhava-4: educational diploma, via examinations, via deeds and titles, via owned properties
Gain based in the ethnic roots and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms; rhythmic, customary social and comfortable habits of the mother's family.
Earnings from real estate and vehicle holdings.
A remarkably energetic example of ruler-of-4 + 9 education parivartamsha-exchange with ruler-of-2 + 11 values
Gain from laying foundations
Income from the land, and from what lies below the land (oil, minerals, underground water).
Gains from promoting the folkways traditions of one's people
Gifted teacher (4) of languages (2) when Budha or Guru is involved. Knows the historical lineage traditions (2) of one's own people.
Must have valuable goods and conserved knowledge in order to feel protected and secure.
bandhesha in 11th-from-svakshetra does promote parenthood and protective actions. However, Much depends on the characteristics of the bandesha-4
Das commentary = "The lord of the 4 is in 2, and the lord of the 4 has at least one beneficial placement attribute."
"You may get property from your uncle.
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bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-3
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-3
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-3
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-3 * media messages
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-3 * many announcements
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-3
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-3
bandesha-4 in mercantile, messaging Bhava 3
siblings / teamwork / Local group / mental process
bandesha-4 in imaginative, invisible 12th-from-svakshetra is generally not auspicious.
When the ruler of any bhava occupies the 12th bhava from svakshetra, the matters of that sthana are spiritualized (pulled back into their astral form) rather than materialized (pushed forward into their physical form).
The expected dissolving of roots and loss of "proofs of belonging" -- such as deeds of title, licenses to practice a trade, and diploma from school completion -- can be reversed via strength of the bhratru-pati-3 or amplification of Chandra.
Drains the life-force energy away from the stability and predictable tides of the family home, and causes a retreat into the imagination or into distant lands.
May benefit writers, presenters, announcers
Education, schooling, stability of the cultural foundations
If other maternal factors are present, may indicate premature loss of the Mother.
Dissolution of owned properties and property claims
loss of schooling or incomplete course of study, diploma not received
owned properties may lose their original value and are sold at a discount during periods of L-3
When bandesha-4 occupies 12th-from-svakshetra there is some loss of roots, loss of property, loss of basic socializing education.
one may have received basic skills education without a deeper connection to traditions grounded in the land of his people.
One may be a capable skills-trainer of others, with a practical, manual or mental task orientation.
Clever but grounded in the use of words and helps to establish new talent, especially writers
if one is oneself a writer, may write upon topic such as what lies under the ground (4) or comment upon the foundations of folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms
May own much property but does not have a chance to dwell deeply on any of it (bandesha-4 in 12th-from-svakshetra) due to travel or business activity.
Must have conversation and frequent short-term travel in order to feel protected and secure.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-4
bandesha-4 in Bhava 4 = svakshetra
Folkways - home / foundations / education / security
bandesha-4 svakshetra = auspicious for patriotism and loyalty to the ethnic culture of one's parents, especially the customary practices (folk religion, dress, language, manners) of the mother's people.
bandesha-4 in 4 = benefits from stable, nurturing parents, school-teachers or caretakers.
Excellent for vehicles, schools, and real estate
If a negative graha, the parents may be conservative and limiting; nevertheless Chandra the natural regulator of 4 has no enemies
all styles of parenting are beneficial to the child if those styles are secure, protective, and internally consistent . Positive attribute of bandesha-4 in 4 guarantees the consistency.
Mother and mother's tradition are strong and positive influence in one 's life, presuming an auspicious graha. Even svakshetra Shani here will give a good education.
Natural teacher of adults and children who loves and promotes the traditions of their upbringing. Teaches the subject matter consistent with the graha and rashi, in a practical style geared to producing socially validated citizens. Patriotic.
Tremendous need for physical and psychic protection, which one obtains via the most secure and well-defended physical property .
Must have a well-defended home in order to feel protected and secure.
Defense of settlements (Mangala)
True to the Roots
Conditions of the parents overall, childhood home, foundational schooling, personal security, and a place of belonging.
Elk grazing in Oregon old forest
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-5 * svabhava
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-5
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-5
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-5
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-5
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-5
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-5
bandesha-4 in Bhava 5
Rooted, rhythmic habitual behaviors ground and stabilize the children, Romance, literary genius, willfulness, Speculative ventures, Games, intelligence, celebration, charisma, fame.
The native is distinctively intelligent yet generally not reckless, except perhaps in romance. Naturally other graha in bhava-5 must be considered.
bandesha-4 in 2nd-from-svakshetra, and in a trine house = auspicious for property ownership and education.
Children have a strong sense of their cultural roots, through the food and stories transmitted via the mother's family. Strong attachment to the mother's family, strong matrilineal influence back several generations. Speculative profits from dealings in land and homes.
May start schools, own profitable schools, or win contests in schools. Typically, a strong and intelligent student, independent minded, less prone to drills and repetition and more brightly charismatic, unless the graha delays.
May be a gifted teacher who brings a clever performance to teaching the core traditions, particularly subjects related to the nation of birth. Childhood home influenced by wealth and fortune through speculative ventures.
Needs political or romantic intrigue in order to feel protected and secure (5).
splendid placement for homeland politicians
ruler of 12th-from-5th (4) resides in bhava-5
The rules of foundational support (4) is comfortable in the family-oriented 2nd-from-4th
Kendra-pathi residing in a trikona generally produces beneficial effects. However, there is a certain 12-from undertow caused by bandesha-4 ruler of 12th-from-5th signifying Dissolutions of Center-Stage Roles while the bandhesha is occupying 5 = Center-Stage Roles
The children (5) may have a home in a distant land (12)
The children are generally well educated and the mother's cultural roots are exceptionally influential in the children's character and upbringing.
Emphasis on educational discipline and the rule of customary behaviors in the mother's society or national culture may overwhelm the children's creative, personalized intelligence. However, when the bandhesha coordinates well with the resident graha in 4, the childhood foundations are secure.
Romance is grounded in the home culture.
one seeks emotional stability through the notoriously unstable, brilliant, theatrical experience of love and romance. Disappointment in romance on this account. In response one places one's core hope of stability into the process of birthing and raising children.
Concern with security (bhava-4), holding on to lands and properties (bhava-4), and other instinctive protective and defending actions pushes through into bhava-5 creativity.
bandhesha-4 in putrabhava-5 signifies stability (4) and a predictable, secure lifestyle Generally, including children (5). Not so comfortable for avant garde creativity, unique intelligence, or large gains from speculation since a regular, rhythmic routine is more important than dramatic displays. Yet one may be gifted with large properties and have a very creative, inspired way of managing one's lands.
Clever, creative methods of sustaining the national folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms despite the undertow of conservative cultural forces (bhava-4) who never want anything to change.
May be a superb trainer and socializing educator. This native should not stray far from the world of children, whether as a parent or a teacher. One's emotional stability is tied to children and the development of their intelligence.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-6 * multiple service ministries; many health issues of the mother, in the home
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-6
bandesha-4 in Bhava 6
Loss of balance / enemies / disease / Poverty / Crime; argumentation, analysis, mentalization; medicine, ministry to sick and needy
* ill mother
Disrupted home life. The childhood is often unhappy with numerous events of moving-house. Exploitive difficulties for the parents, particularly the mother.
If other indicators point to a step-father (8th from Surya) the step-father can become an agent of harm toward the child, in Mangala-related ways, such as verbal violence or physical abuse (depending on drishti and rashi of Kuja).
The parents of a nativity displaying bandesha-4 in satkona may be victims of some type of addiction, social conflict, war, thievery, poverty, or they have been pressed into servitude by betrayal or broken contracts.
If bandesha-4 = Mangala in 6, much physical upheaval including circumstances of domestic violence and social war.
There may be criminal mis-doings ^6) in regard to real-estate and vehicles (4) but few consequences may arise due to the profitable and businesslike 3-11 angle between bhava-4 and its ruler.
....They subsequently ran a gamut of disease, poverty, and despair. Their survival was barely financed by loans (6) from hostile relatives (6) . His unstable childhood home collapsed as his mother descended into schizophrenia (6, mentality of the mother 3rd-from-4th). His schooling (4) in Germany was broken by the Nazi threat. Ketu-4 = absent or distracted parents.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-6 = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Chandra care-takes, nourishes, protects, soothes, parents within unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices Psycho-emotional ailments for the native and servitude or debts for one's mother.
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-6 = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Budha announces, reports, converses, argues about these unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-6
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-6 = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Zukra pleasures, enjoys, balances, remedies, meditates unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices, the home and hearth. Native or native's mother may be prone to alcoholism or other sweet-sensual addictions, as a method to numb some experience of childhood suffering.
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-6
bandesha-4 in 3rd-from-svakshetra is generally less benevolent for matters of the early childhood home, the stability of the lives of the parents, and one's early foundational education.
One is constantly working, especially if Shani the Taskmaster rules here. Yet, the pay is low or no. Servitude, even when the material conditions are pleasant..
bandesha-4 in bhava-6 indicates that the mother's relatives have a good deal of control over the behavior or life-style options of the mother, and that one may live with the maternal relatives at some time during the childhood years.
Harms the health of the parents.
Conflict, poverty, or medical imbalance for the mother's family, perhaps conflict going back several generations. Prostitution, illness, or deep servitude of mother, perhaps caused by psychological exploitation or physical captivity of war.
The mother's cultural roots (4) are distrusted or the physical structure of the home is untrustworthy, corrupt.
One may be a gifted educator (4) of financial skills for those who have foundered in home management, a teacher of debt management, operate a school which educates students in clinical use of medicine/drugs; or teach family conflict resolution, real estate skills training, farming and land management practices to those who have become unbalanced in their initial approach to matters of bhava-4.
Service and servants help to feel protected and secure.
Bodes poorly for emotional balance in one 's early childhood home. Sick, victimized, or abusive mother.
If a malefic + bandesha-4 in 3rd-from -svakshetra harms the education. Raised in an insulated, isolated home environment. Conflict in school due to willfulness and mental instability. Conflict in the family home, adversarial relationship between the parents.
A conservative and suspicious thinker with limited cultural knowledge; insecure because the family base is damaged.
Malefic influences however improve with time for upachaya effects, e.g. 3rd, 6th, 10th, and 11th angles.
If benefic, gives property ownership but polarizing catalysis related to financial activities through suspicious communications; attracts storm damage to properties, poor crops, and difficult tenants.
Mother's identity is bonded to her siblings, who are greedy and unpleasant. False family mythologies mask the conflict of their youth. Unable to tell the truth about their fighting parents or conflicted home life, which makes it hard to get help. Remains self-indulgent, self-defensive, and unhappy.
If bandesha-4 is dignified, can give a good career in educational finance, mortgage lending, vehicle sales, or visiting nurse.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-7
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-7
bandesha-4 * Mangala in bhava-7 occupies 4th-from-4th roots
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-7
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-7 * education, vehicles, housing
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-7 counsel-advice
bandesha-4 in Bhava 7
Balance / marriage / contracts / agreements; alliances, equality, partnership
Ruler of 4 located in 4th-from-4th = extremely strong position for matters of legal advocacy and advising, particularly in matters of ethnic custom and property ownership foundational schooling, transportation, building patterns, ruts-and-routines, cultural roots, boundary defense, or policing. One is often a vigorous nationalist or promoter of ethnic customs.
bandesha-4 in the sheltering, schooling, grounding, rhythmic, customary 4th-from-svakshetra = auspicious for matters of balance, agreement, partnership, schools, homes, real-estate contracts.
The mother's mother is often a grounding, protective figure. Even when other elements of the nativity are unstable, and even when conditions in bhava-4 are uncomfortable, ruler of 4 residing in 4th-from-4th grants adequate nourishment and shelter to sustain the lifetime.
The strongest protective benefits accrue when bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-7. However, this placement also implies that one seeks in the spouse-partner a caretaking parent-figure rather than an equal adult partner.
Whatever other stressors afflict the life, one's education is assured
Nichha Shani ruling 4 might not be so nice
Highly supportive and comfortable placement for basic teaching roles.
4th and 4th-from-4th are both related to property ownership and real estate dealings.
Excellent placement for educators, particularly those who teach adults or who teach in matters of law and contracts.
4th-from-4th also signifies the maternal grandmother, one's own mother's property holdings which may be controlled by the maternal grandmother. (Although 4th from Chandra is a better indicator of the emotional environment created by the agent = mother's mother.)
Spouse hails from a similar cultural background to one's own mother's family, and spouse may be a roots relative of that clan.
Spouse is a natural parent, patriotic, caretaker/steward of the land, and loves the home.
If bandesha-4 is comfortably configured, the life-partner is possessed of considerable landed properties, and the partner very likely has a good education. * especially true when Budha or Guru = bandesha-4 /yuvati-pati-7 such as for Mithuna and Kanya lagna.
bandesha-4 in yuvati-bhava = suited to roles such as educational adviser or maker of partnership agreements with educators, home-builders, property-owners, parents, and other sheltering protectors.
Excellent position for land use attorney, property or vehicle adjudicator, assessor or evaluator (Thula, 7) of deeds and titles to property.
Benefits professional engagement in contract making;
also counselors on matters of schooling, examinations, property acquisition, and professional licensure.
Ruler of 10th-from-7 occupies 7
One's sense of cultural rootedness, being anchored in a fixed place, property ownership, or environmental stewardship = represented by and expressed through the marriage partner.
Must have partnership and contractual agreement in order to feel protected and secure.
Vehicles and Landed Properties * ruler of 4 in 4th-from-4th
QUOTATION * Das comments
"The lord of the 4 is in 7, and the lord of the 4 has at least one beneficial placement attribute."
"You will be very lucky, and lead a happy life.
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bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-8 * Vrishabha lagna * political transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, dramatic eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-8 * Mesha lagna * intuitive transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; emotional eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-8 * forceful transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; dynamic eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-8 * detailed transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, describer of eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-8 * many transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, abundant eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-8 * luxurious transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; gracious eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-8 * harsh transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, resistance to eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools
bandesha-4 in Bhava 8
Any graha which is born into randhra bhava becomes subject to the fast spinning of the cycle (8) of self-destruction and rebirth (8). The speed of change-of-form is often terrifying.
bandhesha-4occupies bhava-8, suggesting home-roots often dislodged by the ongoing cycles of identity-change (8).
A hidden house
Matters of the bhava which are ruled by graha in 8 are controlled by this fast-turning, re-cycling , identity-destroying and regenerating hidden life force. Effects of graha in 8 are frightening, secretive, occult, mysterious, hidden, shocking magical, rejuvenating and changing-changing-changing.
May endure frequent house-shift (4) but usually each time is an upgrade since 8 is 5th-from-4.
bandesha-4 in 5th-from-svakshetra is benevolent for intelligent gambling and charismatic politics usually due to creative skills for managing sudden and shocking changes in the lives of the parents and caretakers.
One or both of the parents may have unstable identities, and the childhood home may be often transformed or reborn in sudden, unexpected ways. Caretakers may be masked agents or impostors. Yet 8 = 5th-from-4th, suggesting scholarship and celebrity if the graha in 8 are radiant. The young person often adapts to instability in the home with creative intelligence.
Someone else on the list of dramatis personae for the present incarnation steps in to take over the parenting role in a better upgraded version (usually better) due to the bandesha-4 being subject to trans-form-ation.
Several iterations of regeneration of the parent-figures. This pattern is usually materially successful due to the auspicious 5th angle.
The childhood home and mother's cultural roots are plunged into a mystical, transformative world of sudden, magical changes . It is performance genius which draws from solid ethnic roots.
bandesha-4 occupies 5th-from-svakshetra; this placement can be beneficial if properly understood . Native may need to endure may transformations of the parental home, the school-house or school-teaching culture, or even cataclysms of the nation-state
Despite a reasonable schooling in the folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of owns own people, this angle may catapult one into an understanding that the nation or culture of birth (4) is a foundation for evolution (8) and not the fixed root of personal identity. One may indeed experience the fortune (bhagya) which arises from intelligence (5th-from) in matters of property boundaries, homes and vehicles, and cultural foundations (5th-from-4th). One indeed knows the folk and their folkways. One may "game" (5) the cultural roots via charismatic performance, entertainments and speculations. One does not cling to the simple life based on property ownership and practice of inherited routines.
If schoolteaching is undertaken, it may be disturbing to the core stabilit of the body.
The cultural roots are not damaged and ethnicity remains meaningful, but there is another perspective, a secret one, which shows one how to transform the cultural inheritance into something quite ingenious and new.
May be an educator of medical or psychic healers, the operator of a tantric school, or one who creates a home for poisoned or traumatized persons.
Educated in the mysteries;
trained to be a facilitator of secrets. of course, having been educated, one realizes the knowledge is rather an 'open secret'
Excellent for midwives and surgeons, those who take the foundational materials and make some intelligent change to it.
Gain of stability and social security through the spouse's assets. one will move house often, and frequently one chooses not to own property at all.
Esp. if bandesha-4 is benevolent, one has all the use of properties, vehicles, schools etc. but does not need the effort of ownership).
If bandesha-4 is less benevolent, the energy field around one's home is always shape-shifting.
One may be betrayed or harmed in one's home, or by one's countrymen.
Must have privileged or magical knowledge in order to feel protected and secure.
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bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-9
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-9 * familiar face in religion
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-9
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-9
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-9
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-9 anchors security via belief in fairness, aesthetic philosophy, womens sangha
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-9 * anchors security via orthodoxy, fearful worldview, limiting beliefs.
bandesha-4 in Bhava 9 = folk beliefs
kinder-kuche-kirke roots emerge via father - doctrine - divinity - human discourse regarding the paradigm of belief (9)
Generally some conflict (6/8) between the localized view (4) and high theoretical wisdom (9) unless other graha accompany the bandesha-4 within dharmasthana. Tendency for bandesha-4 to transfer the folk beliefs of 4 into the university theories of 9.
One may have a particular genius for carrying the property-ownership matters of 4 such as housing, land use, water use, deeds of title, environmental site-management etc. into the theoretical, principled discussions of the temple-9.
Should the graha which is rules bhava-4 be socially dignified, one may demonstrate expertise in legal theory of property, philosophy of environmental law, development of constitutional principles of education, and similar bandhu-bhava-4 local input producing dharmabhava-9 global output.
Always problematic 6-8 angle, even when the exponent is socially successful
The awkward ashtaka 6-8 challenge-angle between 4 and 9 brings out the genius of 4-9 only in conflicted settings, when the old local cult or the old property rights or the old local schooling (4) are in conflict with some type of globalizing influence (9).
Thus bandesha-4 in 9 = generally a good angle for professional who are trained to manage local-global conflicts that occur in the process of social-class change, such as attorneys and religious counselors.
Home-ownership, cultural boundaries, Parenting and Schoolteaching (4) are prone to conflict due to the draw of higher knowledge (9) but ultimately the results are favorable.
Faith of our Fathers
Even when bandesha-4 remains steadfastly parochial in its outlook, one may become a familiar representative of the fundamental and customary faith of an ethnic people.
Articulator preserver or exponent of folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms, rhythms, roots, routines
Customary, routine-seeking bandesha-4 occupies adversarial 6th-from-svakshetra. Foundational schooling (4) and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms can pervade higher discourse of philosophical principles (9) placing habitual folk beliefs of a settled people (4) in conflict with authentic philosophical or theological discussions (9).
Parochialism, fundamentalism, folk heritage tend to enter the philosophical apprehension of higher dharma
Nature, environment, roots, Homeland rhythms (4)
= expressed in Philosophical or sacred teaching (9)
A gifted preacher who can transmit high ritual while maintaining an emotional interest in the emotional well being of the audience.
Patriotism and ethnic roots expressed via the inspirational pulpit.
A seeker of religious and philosophical truth, but rarely at rest in a single set of beliefs.
Routine transportation (Commute)
Troubles in the home (6th-from-4th) -- yet often, help from high-priests or philosophers
bandesha-4 in 6th-from-svakshetra indicates a next-step development of principled understanding which is motivated by conflict (6) with the ritual routines and rhythms of one's birth-culture. May quarrel with customary acts of piety, rhythmic folkways, ancient patterns, and established cultural norms or explore alternative doctrinal paradigms in a somewhat adversarial quest for higher meaning.
Tendency to need to break free of the roots culture in pursuit of the next step in one's development, and that next step is often a new paradigm of belief that is not well matched to the parents' cultural grounding.
Mother's cultural roots are deep in a solid moral philosophy. Mother's lineage may include priests or guru-type religious teachers, who have strong opinions on moral and aesthetic matters. However, one will not be satisfied with that into which one was born.
One may become a professor or scholar-administrator with explicit critical consciousness of which educational values are being transmitted to the student generation, and why. May be acutely aware of the conflict between society's need for stability via cultural indoctrination, vs. the need of the higher mind to seek a non-traditional path.
Must have religious doctrine, sacred teachings, or life-philosophy in order to feel protected and secure. However, Most varieties of dogma are in conflict with the cultural roots and owned lands, due to bandhesha in unbalanced 6th-from-4th
Religious (9) properties (4), although these are disputed, conflicted, and problematic due to the 6th-from angle
Is likely to be a well-educated person with solid grounding in his own cultural foundations, yet perhaps tending a bit toward unbalanced judgments or indebtedness in his handling of property matters. At least he may be not much in agreement with the prevailing pedagogy of the day - due to bandesha-4 in argumentative 6/8-from-4th .
Father may be an educator, grantor of titles of licenses, vehicles manager, or property manager.
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-10
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-10
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-10
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-10
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-10
High visibility, Familiar to Folks
bandesha-4 folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of a settled people enters karmasthana-10 profession, Leadership, Prestige, visibility, dignity
bandesha-4 in 7th-from-svakshetra = generally quite auspicious.
Serves the public through basic education, enhancing national and regional security, supporting the defense of lands and roots culture.
Brings parental, conservative, land-owning, property cultivating instincts to the leadership role. A patriotic and localized viewpoint, not global insight.
May be much more popular with the regional base than with the national base. Tribal attributes, local folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms, us-against-them boundary distinctions, overall popular and trusted.
bandesha-4 in the equitable and just 7th-from-svakshetra = auspicious.
Sincerely patriotic leadership from a property-ownership, foundational, "roots " perspective.
Lawfully upholds and represents the ethnic folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of the people who are settled on the land.
Patriotic, parochial, comfort from the past, nostalgic, downward looking and backward looking (wistfully).
If Mangala's natural instincts for sporting competition = over-amplified or Kuja otherwise becomes combative, there may be dominance issues with matters of 4 such as lack of tranquility in the childhood home, parental fighting, aggressive car-driving.
Extreme case of Mangala rules-4 + drishti into 4 + Kuja amplified by Chandra-yuti-Rahu + incoming drishti from Shani-8 =
May govern (10) under a patriarchal (9th) facade honoring the customary (4) beliefs of a settled people.
Houses of Life and Houses of Worship
Governs with support from and toward the folk- schooling and customary licensing practices.
Reputed for transportation, roadways, waterways, airways, and vehicles
Parents are generally dignified.
Promotes social security and continuation of the presence of a people in their place. Iconic, broadly visible representation (10) of property-ownership, parenting and schooling.
May provide iconic leadership in curriculum with a strong characteristic of ethnic purity and consistency, roots values, and return to basics.
Prefers a rhythmic, habitual lifestyle, and wishes to ensure the methods of transmission of cultural manners from one generation to the next.
bandesha-4 in 10 = iconic leadership the agricultural, territorial, land-owning instincts of one's folk
Solid and reliable, emotionally steady, unchanging public personality. One's mother has a leadership role and one takes one's direction from her.
staunch advocate of lawful property ownership and traditional methods of stewardship of the land.
Must have a governing or executive role in order to feel protected and secure.
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-11
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-11
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-11
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-11 * commercial profits from properties of lands, vehicles, underground
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-11 * fruits of wisdom from old roots, from teaching, from folkways
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-11
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-11
bandesha-4 in Bhava 11
bandesha-4 = folkways, patriotism, parents especially Mother
bhava-11 = marketplace gains, material goals and achievements; social participation movements and economic participation
economic income (11) sourced from matters of bhava-4 including vehicles of transportation, shelters, roots, things underground, real-estate, agricultural lands, fishing, marine lifestyles, homewares, nourishment, schooling, and local rhythms
With bandhesha in 8th-from-svakshetra, one may be more comfortable in a next-step country than in one's own homeland. Depending on the graha in 4 and in 11, one may be a traveler who frequently moves away from the home base.
There may be a forced transformative even disastrous rift between customs of the childhood home and the rhythms of folk life, as the foundations of life demand movement into the rebirthed identity of a shift in patriotic allegiance, or homeland passport, or loyalty to the mother-motherland and her people (mother may include both parents as a protective unit). One tends to rift-and-shift away from the birth roots in a bid to be rejuvenated and reborn.
bandesha-4 in 8th-from-svakshetra = less benevolent for mother's well-being, but gives inheritance of landed property rights and hidden assets.
Mother is somewhat instable because she is prone to quick cycles of identity transformation; however, she is gainful and her child benefits from mother's social connectivity.
Mother: gainful remarriage and new identity
bandesha-4 in 8th-from-svakshetra is only slightly auspicious for matters of schooling, vehicles, or property ownership
All these undertakings will be profitable, but one may feel that one does not have much control over the trajectory from one's foundations (such as the college major field) into the actual method of earnings. Parents will provide a legacy of some variety.
one is essentially a teacher (4) who promotes a particular curriculum or science via large assemblies (11). One is generally able to be financially gainful (11) while doing so in fact educating others can be a main source of income. (Other income is often from other items within the portfolio of bandhu bhava-4 such as rents upon landed properties and buildings.)
Good auspice for business in sale of instructional materials or turn-key educational systems. Any relationship between 4 and 11 shows profit from educational activities.
Education industry is a majority employer in USA. www.bls.gov
Direct and indirect profits from the schools and diploma-holders
The people and place where one had received one's upbringing, manners, and schooling form a strong constituency within the social network and provide a basis for gainfulness.
Even coming from humble beginnings, one may attend a prestigious academy, college or professional school which forms the springboard of "who you know".
Gains from one's formal education and teaching dharma in the marketplace. May be a business educator; a scientist; or an educator in the fields of technical, social or professional networking.
Gainful capabilities, esp. income from educational products, land/property products or transactions. Promotes a patriotic, conservative persona but may be more of a freethinker than s/he reveals.
Profit from the home culture, roots, foundations, old ways, ancient boundaries, places of settlement, ethnicity, schooling (4) * but because 11 occupies 8th-from-4th, there must be some sudden force of unexpected change which also invigorates a new identity
May handle innovative products or digital technology which transform conventional primary educational settings.
one profits from stimulating professional networking, and providing other connectivity functions which expand the scope of basic socialization. (4th lord in transformative/destructive 8th-from-svakshetra, profits from changing its base).
Must have engagement with a large conceptual system in order to feel protected and secure.
Earnings from landed property:
bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-12
bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-12
bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-12
bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-12
bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-12 * many meditations, much sanctuary
bandesha-4 = Zukra in bhava-12
bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-12
bandesha-4 in distant realms Bhava 12 =
dreams / meditation / sanctuary /subconscious / private worlds
bandesha-4 in 9th-from-svakshetra = auspicious.
confessional topics bring spiritual healing and wisdom.
bandesha-4 in 12 may own land (4) in a distant country or a country far away from one's homeland (12) if the graha is strong.
Otherwise, deepest connections to land and the traditions of the mother's family are plunged into the realm of the subconscious imagination.
The home customs, routine and regular habits of a people, roots and rhythms, may be trapped in a world of ignorance or or dreamy uncertainty; the basis of life shifts as if in a dream.
Home (4) tends to be influenced by the imagination (12) May possibly have a crumbling or insubstantial quality if Ketu-12.
Foreign guests from distant lands come visiting in the home
May teach in an enclosure such as an ashram, monastery, hospital, prison, or spa. Little social recognition for teaching, parenting, or caretaking behaviors.
Limited identity as a parent or custodian; yet one loves the land patriotically because bandesha-4 has found the 9th from svabhava in a moksha trine of sincere understanding. Works quietly on matters of environmental preservation and care.
May be a traveling educator, teach to the international tourist industry, or be a chaplain in hospital or retreat/reserve camp.
Although the 9th angle indicates spiritual balance, one or both of the parents may be unavailable due to distance, isolation, hospitalization, meditative retreat, or imprisonment.
Depending on graha yuti the bandesha there may be house-shifts driven by the imaginative need to relocate, but these new shelters are likely all fairly close to the homeland roots.
Mother may have been unavailable in the home due to illness perhaps, or an outside social life, or mother was an exceptionally quiet person with little outer life.
Alternatively, the foundational education (4) may be established in boarding schools; one may live in a dormitory (12) rather than live at home
Self or mother may have been primarily educated in a protected enclosure such as a boarding school or refugee camp. Quality of the education is high or low depending on the graha.
Must have quiet and solitude, often the sanctuary of private prayer, in order to feel protected and secure.
May signal the dissolution or loss of a foundational, protective structure such as a home or a school.
Generally signifies that the relationship with the mother's folk and their properties, while often helpful due to the trine angle, is invisible and dissolved.
Yet with bandesha-4 in 12, the walls of enclosure both psychic and physical which create a feeling of protection and shelter may dissolve or be eroded by the intensity of one's dreams.
There may be goings-on within the home (4) that are not clearly seen (12) due to the curtained, invisible, enclosed nature of 12. Character of the bandupathi may reveal.
| STAY ON THE BRINK
Pema Chödrön in Buddha's Daughters, pages 56–57
|"When things fall apart and we're on the verge of we know not what, the test for each of us is to stay on that brink and not concretize. |
The spiritual journey is not about heaven and finally getting to a place that's really swell. In fact, that way of looking at things is what keeps us miserable.
Thinking that we can find some lasting pleasure and avoid pain is what in Buddhism is called samsara, a hopeless cycle that goes round and round endlessly and causes us to suffer greatly.
The very first noble truth of the Buddha points out that suffering is inevitable for human beings as long as we believe that things last—that they don't disintegrate, that they can be counted on to satisfy our hunger for security.
From this point of view, the only time we ever know what's really going on is when the rug's been pulled out and we can't find anywhere to land .
We use these situations either to wake ourselves up or to put ourselves to sleep.
Right now—in the very instant of groundlessness#8212;is the seed of taking care of those who need our care and of discovering our goodness."
14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso
|"...I try to stay joyful. |
If we want to work effectively for freedom and justice, it is better to do so without anger or deviousness.
If we ourselves feel calm, and if we act with a sincere motivation, we can accomplish many things in the 30 or 50 active years of our life.
And if some positive results have already been seen from this approach, I think I can say that this is in part because of my commitment to the pacifist cause, a commitment which is motivated by a genuine belief in the brotherhood of mankind.
We are not a very large or powerful nation , but our way of life, our culture, and our spiritual tradition have helped us follow the way of peace even at times of tremendous difficulty and hardship, and have given us courage in our wish to develop love and compassion.
When the time comes, the Tibetan people longs with all its heart to take responsibility for the high plateau, which is our homeland , and to transform it into a sanctuary of peace where mankind will live side by side with nature, in harmony."
You said during the reading that I had the potential to
change countries numerous times. You said that is because the ruler of the
bhave for homes is in the bhave that is 8th from home-base. I have Ketua in
bhavae-4 and ny Chandra is in Chumbha rasashi You said I am restlessly
looking for higher income. Hmm, that is very true. I moved from
Malaysia to Brunei, and fro Brunei to Taipei, and from Taipei to Paris
France, and from Paris to the Rotterdam. I am in the Netherlands now and
working with my shipping company. My lifemate (like you say) is boring here
in the Rotterdam and we have been talking very much about it it time to go
to a new place. We have two beautiful small kids and their education is very
important for us. My company has many offices in the world. This is
my question what I don't understand (yet). According to Jyotis, My dear
lifepartner has a plan, and my two kids also have their own plan. So what
happens if their plan says don't move but my plan would like to move to new
country? All members of family have to move together and all plans will
I moved from Malaysia to Brunei, and fro Brunei to Taipei, and from Taipei to Paris France, and from Paris to the Rotterdam. I am in the Netherlands now and working with my shipping company. My lifemate (like you say) is boring here in the Rotterdam and we have been talking very much about it it time to go to a new place. We have two beautiful small kids and their education is very important for us. My company has many offices in the world.
This is my question what I don't understand (yet). According to Jyotis, My dear lifepartner has a plan, and my two kids also have their own plan. So what happens if their plan says don't move but my plan would like to move to new country? All members of family have to move together and all plans will coordinate.
Regarding the next country-move, your Jyotisha nativity will show your move to a new country regardless of anyone else's move. Usually if the whole family together is going to shift to a new land, the Jyotisha nativities of all the family members would show coordinated patterns (periods of ruler of 8th-from-4th, ruler of the revolutionary, emotionally turbulent, perpetually transformative, trauma-inducing 8th-from-Chandra , ruler of 12th-from-4th, ruler of 12th-from-chandra, periods of Ketu, periods of graha which are related to the typical rulers) .
However, That primary determiner of your move is your own VImshottari Dasha period timetable. If you do a country move, it was pre-planned eons ago and it is necessary for your spiritual development.
The nativities of your near and dear ones may be aligned or the might not be aligned with your country move. If that coordination does not occur, it suggests that you would move only with those who were planned to go with you. Common examples of a family not moving all together would include situations where children remain in one country for schooling while their parents (or both parents) travel for work, or children go to a different country to live with relatives, or other arrangements that are sage and beneficial for everyone but nevertheless do involve splitting the family locations.
With Jyotisha divinatory reasoning, it is necessary to set aside materialistic, positivistic, social propaganda about cause-and-effect relationships.
The causation mechanism in Jyotisha begins with spiritual programming, percolates down to mental level of thoughts. From causative thoughts, it gravitates down to emotions, and from emotions the urgos (energy) finally down to the social-physical level. Material circumstances never cause anything. Material circumstances are only a temporary result of their antecedent thoughts and feelings.
Wishing you and your family every happiness, healing from sorrow, guidance by inner light, and success in all of life's endeavors,
Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotishavidya
Centers of the folk culture in the place of settlement.
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