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Rashi * Graha * Bhava * Gochara

see also : 4th-from-Chandra = defensive, culturally-rooted, seasonal-calendar, routinized, patriotic, ethno-nationalistic, comfort-seeking, home-loving, foundational, property-owning


AUM som somaya namah

AUM hreem shreem chandraya namah

OM shram sreem shraum sah chandraya namah


Planetary Regulator of


Bandhu-sthana * Sukha-daya

in the Twelve Bhava

role of the bandhu-pati

basis of life, ethnicity, vehicles, roadways, the lay of the land, the farmlands, the folks.

comfortable habits


Nascita di Venere by Botticelli, c 1486


Domain occupied by the Planetary Ruler of the Fourth Bhava

  • social and emotional security, property ownership-stewardship + continuation of the grounding of a people in their place;

  • protection, shelter, dwelling

  • habitual practices

  • ritual and routine

  • anchorage; foundation; roots

  • ethnic folkways, ancient customs

  • established cultural norms


Everyone is a guardian of some aspect of human life and culture. The commitment to stewardship is an ancient promise to protect and nurture the portion of civilization for which one feels the deepest affection.

Bhava-4 has an extensive terrain including cultural stability through habituated rhythms and routines, seasonal festivals, protection of the vulnerable, caretaking, owned property, the rights of native peoples, parenting, schoolteaching, transportation and vehicles.

Bandhu-bhava nurtures the roots and soothes the mind via maintaining the ebb-and-flow of a predictable Way of Life.

Ethic * Ethnic

The bhava containing bandh-pati-4 expresses a rooted attachment to all things nourishing, soothing, local and familiar

  • Old Ways, Old School, Ancient Rhythms, fundamentals base, basics,

  • Comfortable habits and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms deepened through the generations, Parents, Shelters, schools,

  • roadways and shipping channels; wagons, sleds, carts, carriages, cars; ships, yachts, boats

  • ethnic peoples, ethical behaviors, culture and agriculture, roots,

  • the walls ("mora", thus 'morality') which protect and surround the place of settlement

  • Parentalism, parochialism, stewardship of the Land and local Waters

  • patriotism, Home, Nation, birthplace

bandesha-4 shows the security based in socialization via schooling , and is benefic.

Along with bhava-4, the bandhu-pati shows foundational material and psychological conditions of the childhood home.

  • bandesha-4 bhava-6 is most uncomfortable for childhood security and protection, and may indicate abuse in the home.

  • However, bandesha-4 in bhava-8 and bandesha-4 in bhava-12 are supportive placements, being all within the Moksha trine.

Emotional conditions prevailing in childhood home, see also lord of 4th-from-Chandra (but this is more accurately the Mother's childhood home, which Mom then recreates as a familiar culture, when raising her child .)

If bandesha-4 happens to be Mangala (for Simha indriya-lagna and Makara indriya-lagna ) some of the stability benefits of bandesha-4 = lost because Mangala is so energetic

Nevertheless Kuja the karaka for movement, engines, drilling is motivated to pursue landed property holdings, fleets of vehicles (boats, cars, airplanes).

Although Kuja can be impatient with the rhythmic repetitions (Chandra natural bandesha-4 ) of schoolwork, Mangala as bandesha-4 if well-placed can assist obtainment of educational diploma. Such a student may need to be very active physically in order to successfully complete a sit-down course of study.

Das commentary says to expect good results from bandhu-pati in regard to schooling, houses, fields, and conveyances, if:

"The lord of the 4 is in a kendra

  • or the lord of the 4 is in a trine

  • or the lord of the 4 is is in its mūlatrikoṇa

  • or the lord of the 4 is exalted

  • or the lord of the 4 is in its own sign ,

AND the lord of the 4 is considered Strong in Shad Bala."

"Happiness, education, conveyances, lands, agriculture, etc., will thrive well.

  • You will dig wells and construct new houses.

  • You will plant trees and your agriculture will flourish."

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local politics, drama, games

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local rhythms of life, patterns, routines, boundaries


bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-1 [identified with foundational teaching] [promotes ancestral cultures] [actively travels old pathways] [protects housing-fishing-farming-transport]


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-1 * dik-bala* identified with protecting local instructions, guards accepted explanations

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-1 * dik-bala * identified with protecting local doctrine, guards the patrons of the place


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-1 * identified with protecting local relationships between individuals and groups


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-1 * identified with protecting the local institutions; maintains the social order of the place of settlement


bandesha-4 in Bhava 1 * Patriotism, Home and Country, ethno-centrism

The ruler of bhava-4 Guardians and Stewards of the Place of Settlement has entered bhava-1 identity-appearance:

one's choice of external vehicle (fleshbody, boat, car) signifies the identity and often one flaunts it

one nearly always serves as an agent of shelter, protection, rhythm, routine, security;

if not a parent, then as a defender or a teacher of fundamental education

one protects the land, its areas of settlement, its roadways and shipping routes, its farmlands and fisheries, its homes and schools

identified with the patriotic defense of the land and its ethnic peoples; protection of boundaries, fences, membranes and crossings between cultural areas

bandhu-pati-4 residing = indriya-lagna, (or yuti Chandra) brings into the personality (1) matters of bhava-4 guardianship, stewardship, protectionism, sheltering, culture-roots and ethnicity.

bandesha-4 in 10th-from-svakshetra = The Patriot

Native is socially identified with

  • teaching, parenting,

  • curating of social traditions,

  • foundational education, basic socialization and schooling

  • land stewardship, the land of one's birth

  • and the perpetuation of the roots of one culture.

Culturally rooted in the habitual ways of a people grounded in their historic lands. Deeply patriotic .

  • Pope-264 John-Paul-II 1920-2005 Karol Wojtyla an intensely patriotic Pole dedicated to the protection of his homeland from Communist oppressors, he later came to represent the regional ethnicity via the two-millennia tradition of European Christianity

Others may look to one as a source of stability, defense, security, and belongingness.

Personality-identified with parenting, house-holding, school-teaching, protection, deep roots and foundations of life .

  • Sound and Fury 1897-1962 novelist William Faulkner + [uchcha] Budha-yuti-Surya + [Kuja-yuti-Guru] . His literary dialogs showing the rhythmic conversations of a rural folkway (Southern agricultural USA) exemplified the customary way of life.

Bandesha-4 in 10th-from-foundational bandesha-4 . May serve as a parental leader (10) of the flocks who quest for shelter and protection.

Transportation, vehicles, roadways, waterways, shipping

  • England-Queen 1533-1603 Armada Elizabeth-1-Tudor [Mūla-1 mūlatrikoṇa]  supervised and patronized the expansion of pirate-shipping and maritime warfare which would eventually form the basis of the British Empire

Surya-Vrishabha located in bhava-1

Bandesha-4 in 1 = Surya in 10th from svabhava

= a radiant placement for treasuries of value accrued from real-estate, building ownership, construction, shipping, agriculture, schooling, borders, walls, local infrastructure, policing, local politics, transportation, and vehicles.

However, Professor Surya is rather uncomfortable in Rishabha-rashi which is the rashi of His enemy Professor Bright Beautiful Bhrigu.

Surya prefers to apply His own beliefs and judgments without feeling restrained by Shukra's diplomatic concern for the interests of others

Generally successful Learning Pathway experience nevertheless involve some some frustration. One's own convictions, especially in regard to treasuries of wealth and knowledge, are not always shared by partners in business or marriage.

if bandesha-4 = Surya, Guru, or Mangala, one's own visage may come to symbolize the wisdom [Guru] or aristocracy [Mangala] or glory and grandeur [Surya] of the home culture

  • UK-Queen 1926- Elizabeth-2 * is a powerful icon of British root-culture

  • Old Time Music 1929-2003 comedy June Carter Cash was strongly identified with the habitual and customary (4) lifestyle that was in the experience of its adherents inseparable from the religious faith of the Scots-Irish (Ulster) influenced, protestant Christian rural USA population. Both roots (4) and doctrine (9) are ruler by her yogakaraka vibrant, theatrical Mangala-SImha-1.

  • France-Emperor 1769-1821 Wars Napoleon Bonaparte [Kuja-yuti-Surya] = represented the New France, bold and dominant

  • Hugging Saint 1953- Ammachi of Kerala + Shukra is a powerful icon of rural South Indian root-culture. She expresses the physically urgent lifestyle of coastal peoples; competing for survival [Kuja] and living in harmonious relationship to nature [Shukra] in a hot climate [Simha]

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-1 * one symbolizes the home culture's parental behavior toward other cultures; paternalism; patronizing care.

bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-1 * one symbolizes the "message" of the homeland cultural roots

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-1 one represents the national root-culture's self-defense against cultural invaders and military conquest of challengers

May be called vocationally to active territorial-guardian roles such as military defense, police-work or fence-building

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-1 [dik-bala] * one may represent the most inclusive, expansive optimistic image of the home culture; home and property ownership-stewardship . A person with whom many [Guru] can identify, who represents the cultural model for abundance, wisdom and growth

  • Pope-266 Francis 1936- Jorge Bergoglio [Budha-yuti-Rahu] [Guru-yuti-Rahu] [Surya-yuti-Rahu] * adherent of the customary rituals of a gigantic religious organization

  • Golden Girls 1934-2010 drama Rue McClanahan

  • Sound and Fury 1897-1962 novelist William Faulkner + [uchcha] Budha-yuti-Kuja + [Surya-yuti-Guru] * Faulkner was a master of description of a parochial village. It was WF's rich description of a very small area of the American southeast culture, settled by a small number of intensely interactive and self-righteous [Surya] local denizens (all imaginary) which intrigued his readers and eventually earned him the 1949 Nobel Prize in Literature.

  • Zorro 1969- drama-commerce Catherine Zeta Jones + [uchcha] Budha-yuti-Surya

  • Friends 1969- drama-fashion Jennifer Aniston [Guru-yuti-Ketu]

  • Purple Rain 1958-2016 guitarist Prince * Guru-1 * Steadfastly ignoring the LA-or-NY conventions of show-business, Prince Rogers Nelson built his recording studio and corporate compound in his birthplace of Minneapolis. He toured frequently, but always returned to familiar home base.

  • Out on a Limb 1934- drama-esoterica Shirley MacLaine * parivartamsha lagnesha-1 nichha Budha-7 was for many years known as the owner of an apartment building which provided shelter to upcoming Hollywood dramatic actors; later, she purchased additional [Guru] expansive properties which sheltered many.

bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-1 * one provides an iconic representation of home, shelter, parenting, and protection in a gracious, aesthetic, agreeable way; associated with a beautiful home or luxury properties; well-balanced roadways and shipping.

Shukra-1 may represents the core values of the home culture when conducting negotiations. Balances the rights of all parties with special attention to the concerns of native populations.

May prefer luxurious or beautifully designed homes, graciously appointed vehicles, smooth roadways, and be personally representative of attractive or valuable lands and properties

  • Violet Flame 1939-2009 Elizabeth Clare Prophet [Guru-yuti-Shukra] * through a trust [Shukra] held by her church, ECP owned a portfolio of homes in several states (some grand, some modest), fleets of vehicles including armored trucks, a vast estate in rural Montana, and California a college campus purchased from a religious order.

  • POTUS-pair-44 Let's Move 1964- Michelle Robinson Obama [Shukra-yuti-Chandra]* identified with gardening, nutrition, parenting, home-keeping, education. Initiative as First Lady included health for schoolkids (4) via more fresh foods (4) in school lunches (4)

  • Steppenwolf 1877-1962 anti-Nazi Hermann Hesse was an accomplished fine-arts painter and aspiring singer; he often commented that he would rather paint and sing music than write. He built a home in Italy in middle age, stayed there almost entirely in the second half of life, and often professed his love for the place.

  • POTUS-43 Decision Points 1946- George W. Bush + [Shani-yuti-Budha]

  • War and Peace 1828-1910 Leo Tolstoy + Shani

  • Cuba-Dictator 1926-2016 Fidel Castro + [Budha-yuti-Surya] * His citizens lived in widespread poverty with food shortages and broken machinery yet FC's Ketu in 4th-from-Chandra was unconcerned, Appearing to his exploited people as a paragon of anti-capitalism and social equality, FC and his small circle of associates (brother, sons) lived in conditions of remarkable luxury. Through the assets of the State, FC owned prestige vehicles such as cars and modern boats, along with dozens of homes and properties with elaborate security defenses (his Aśleṣa)

  • POTUS-45 Play to Win 1946- Beauty Pageants Donald Trump * campaign rhetoric of defending homeland borders

  • de Mundi Systemate 1643-1727 Isaac Newton [Guru-yuti-Shukra] acquired considerable properties during his long life

bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-1 * one represents the home culture's material practicality and survival skills; one represents the security of basic food, clothing, shelter and social dignity; one symbolizes the home culture's attempt to create an orderly situation for the common people.

  • POTUS-23 National Forests 1833-1901 Benjamin Harrison was a consistent advocate for civil rights in an era when slavery was still illegal but de facto slavery was normalized

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Chandra-yuti-Shani] [uchcha] * lifelong advocate for stable, moral, institutionalized, democratic elections worldwide

if bandesha-4 = yuti Rahu , guardianship of the home culture with elements of exotic influence

A natural foundational-customary teacher. Identified with schooling.

Icon of lawful rhythms and routines. The bandhesha represents the land, its people, and their ethnic roots, their ; particular type of schooling or upbringing, proficiency in practice of a set of culturally embedded manners and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms.

Like the ocean tides (4) cultural norms are not fixed in place. They exist in a predictable rhythmically oscillating range.

Symbol of protection from threats, sought by the weak and appreciated by the strong.

Must have physical vitality and competitive energy in order to feel protected and secure.

If bandhupathi-4 is comfortably placed, schooling and social foundations is proportionally fortunate.

"I am my folk roots, my vehicles and shelters, my ability to protect and care for the homeland, and my schooling in customary ways."

The foundation : mother, parent, home, cultural capital, social and emotional security, extraordinary and passionate patriotism.

The social identity is infused with the qualities of socializing levels of education, indoctrination, licensing and diplomas, cultural validation, landed property, buildings, furniture, schools, shelter, protection, caring, nurturing, clothing, vehicles, early childhood education, basic socialization by the mother and grandmother, cultural agreement, roots.

  • Steppenwolf 1877-1962 anti-Nazi Hermann Hesse adored his custom-built estate home in Italy, acquired in the early years of his Shukra Mahadasha. Along with his Shukra-ruled third wife, Hesse lived comfortably on his ancient estate with a degree of wealth from his writings after mid-life, painting and singing at home

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-2

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-2

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-2


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-2 * foundational families * gain via discourse about roots culture

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-2 * gain via lands, properties, settlements, dwellings


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-2 * gain via music, voice, song, treasure, knowledge of history


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-2

bandesha-4 in Bhava 2 * national and local security obtained via Sustenance * values * food * acquisitions * collected wealth * treasuries of knowledge * Skandha

musical, rhythmic, pulses, beats; a singer, a cantor, and who earns from musical pulse, or from the ethnic rhythms such as schoolteaching or settlements, or from the pulse of the vehicle wheels turning, because ruler of 4 occupies 11th-from-4th

May have expertise in matters of provenance = histories (2) of ownership (4)

foundational families * family history

Financial skills (2) stabilize (4) and educate (4) an ethnic (4) community (11)

  • 52nd Dai, Dawoodi Bohra 1915-2014 Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin + [Guru-yuti-Budha] + [Surya-yuti-Rahu] . A long-living and beloved community leader, the Syedna slowly but persistently led his impoverished people into an era of education (including for girls) and financial (2) security (4) via property ownership-stewardship (4).

profitable lands = 2 = 11th-from-4

  • POTUS-pair-01 tobacco 1731-1802 Martha Custis Washington + [Budha-yuti-Mangala] + [Surya-yuti-Ketu] . In a historical time when few women owned land outright, MCW was a prodigious property owner. Her tobacco farms were highly profitable. MCW inherited agricultural lands and hundreds of slaves (slaves were considered property) from her father, and from her first husband after widowhood. Finally, her landed assets combined with the inherited plantations of her husband George Washington. MCW's financial skills (Budha + 4 graha in dhana-sthana) helped to fund the bedraggled ; American forces in the long-running ; Revolutionary War (1775-1783).

Treasuries of storage: history, stories, restorations, restaurants

affluence and historical knowledge, eyes, voice, face, and song

Properties sustained by profits from Music and Song

Properties sustained by profits from Speech and Face

bandesha-4 in 11th from svabhava = dhana-sthana = indicates gainfulness and friendship in the assembly of historians, bankers, animal breeders, and those who "keep" the knowledge of the past.

Profitability through making connections with curators, collectors, storytellers, lineage-bearers.

Gain through matters of bhava-4: educational diploma, via examinations, via deeds and titles, via owned properties

Ruler of Matribhava = Mother

  • POTUS-pair-35 editor 1929-1994 Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis [bandhesha Budha-yuti-Surya-2] JKO had a notoriously security-focused mother who ensured that her daughters married into elite wealth. (Mom succeeded.)

Gain based in the ethnic roots and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms; rhythmic, customary social and comfortable habits of the mother's family.

Earnings from real estate and vehicle holdings.

A remarkably energetic example of ruler-of-4 + 9 education parivartamsha-exchange with ruler-of-2 + 11 values

  • POTUS-02 Thoughts on Government 1735-1826 John Adams worked as a schoolmaster (Budha-4) for several years after he graduated from college. JA was a vigorous proponent of public education (4) as the surest guarantee of the fundamental (4) public literacy needed to support a democratic nation (9 ideology). The necessity of a literate electorate was one of the few ideas that was unquestioningly agreed by both Adams and his lifetime adversary Thomas Jefferson.

Gain from laying foundations

Income from the land, and from what lies below the land (oil, minerals, underground water).

Gains from promoting the folkways traditions of one's people

Gifted teacher (4) of languages (2) when Budha or Guru is involved. Knows the historical lineage traditions (2) of one's own people.

Must have valuable goods and conserved knowledge in order to feel protected and secure.

  • If one does not complete the formal education in early life due to weakness of the bandesha-4 , one may return to college or undertake tutored studies as an adult.

  • If bandesha-4 is strong, very knowledgeable (2) and an effective speaker (2)

bandhesha in 11th-from-svakshetra does promote parenthood and protective actions. However, Much depends on the characteristics of the bandesha-4

  • POTUS-02 Thoughts on Government 1735-1826 John Adams = Kuja-yuti-Rahu-2 banking ruling 4-settlers. Adams vigorously rejected the special privileges of slave-plantation magnates who held a vast amount of wealth in a very few families (4).They staunchly opposed the Central Bank which could make loans to small landholders and businesses. Adams insisted that loan money be made available to small property owners.

Das commentary = "The lord of the 4 is in 2, and the lord of the 4 has at least one beneficial placement attribute."

"You may get property from your uncle.

  • You will be rich and will get money through real estate.

  • You will possess many vehicles and will support your family members.

  • You will eat good food and will be happy throughout your life."

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-3


bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-3


bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-3


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-3 [svabhava] media messages


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-3 [many announcements about property ownership-stewardship ] [much patriotic bluster] [imaginative interpretation of ancestral customs]


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-3


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-3


bandesha-4 in mercantile, messaging Bhava 3

siblings / teamwork / Local group / mental process

bandesha-4 in imaginative, invisible 12th-from-svakshetra is generally not auspicious.

When the ruler of any bhava occupies the 12th bhava from svakshetra, the matters of that sthana are spiritualized (pulled back into their astral form) rather than materialized (pushed forward into their physical form).

The expected dissolving of roots and erosion of proofs of belonging -- such as deeds of title, licenses to practice a trade, or diploma from school completion.

Drains the life-force energy away from the stability and predictable tides of the family home, and causes a retreat into the imagination or into distant lands.

  • Waste Land 1888-1965 publisher T.S. Eliot [Kuja-yuti-Guru] * although raised and schooled in a comfortable home in St. Louis, TSE believed [Guru] that he was destined to return to the SW English lands of his ancestors. At the age of 25, he moved permanently to UK. By age 39, he received a UK passport.

  • Shambala 1939-1987 Tulku Chogyam Trungpa [Purva-bhadra-1] + [Budha-yuti-Surya] [Guru-3 parivartamsha Shani-4] Although it would ultimately provoke a productive writing and instructional career, CT was forced to leave his homeland during the Chinese occupation in 1959 under dire circumstances

  • Open Society 1930- capitalist George Soros * bandesha-4 = [nīcha] Shukra in bhava-3 * As a young Jewish boy in wartime Budapesht, GS had to abandon his cultural roots (Ketu-4) and become as invisible as possible (Shukra in 12th-from-4th invisibility). World-War-2 officially started in 1939 when young Gyorgy was age-9. Hungary tried to make a Faustian bargain with the Axis powers = [nīcha] Shukra unfair contracts. It was hoped that these last-ditch arrangements would protect Hungarian minority populations. But the deal collapsed due to bad-faith actors (Hitler mainly) and waves of lethal violence swept the land (4) George himself survived, due to many supporting features of the nativity including Guru-12-drishti-to-Chandra-8 ++ Ketu-4.

Ruler of 4 = interpretation, discussions, mentality, instructions

occupies 12th-from-4 = imaginative, non-factual, dreamlike, visionary, wishing, magical thinking in matters of ancestral common-law [4] and statutory property law [4]

  • POTUS-17 Reconstruction 1808-1875 Andrew Johnson [Guru in bhava-3] [energizing lagnesha for Dhanus-Haya indriya-lagna] AJ was a self-taught frontier lawyer whose education was spotty and whose reading [3] had followed a broad [Guru] but enirely personalized path. In modern parlance, AJ's literary habits would be considered to produce a lack of critical thinking skills.

  • AJ had sampled literature the fields of history, philosophy, and law. More comprehensively trained colleagues noted that AJ had more than a few holes in his jurisprudential understanding. Rahu-11 made AJ an economically ambitious earner. Mangala-10 ruler of politics-5 provided a lifetime of elected governance positions incuding US-Senator and Governor of Tennessee. Johnson was a proven leader. Yet, he claimed the unsustainable political position (Ktu-5 unsustainable) that slave-holders' rights were Constitutionally guaranteed under the right to private property. After the 14th Amendment was passed following the USA Civil War, no human being could be legally categorized as property . However, President Johnson continued to argue vociferously that slavery was a Constitutionally protected legal right. He worked so hard to thwart the14th amendment that he was impeached by Congress for obstructionism.

Draining effects of 12th-from-svakshetra impacts the karaka

May benefit writers, presenters, announcers

Education, schooling, stability of the cultural foundations

  • Gitanjali 1861-1941 lyrical poet Rabindranath Tagore [Mriga-3] [Kuja-yuti-Ketu] [Kuja-6 parivartamsha Budha-4] RT was a staunch supporter of the local customs [4]. He was generally appreciated by the folks who shared his Bangla cultural roots [Shukra-4].

  • Yet, when the bandesha-4 occupies [6], no matter how excellent may be conditions in bandusthana-4, conflict may arise in the materializing energy of initiative regarding matters of 4.
  • Tagore's foundational education (4) was strongly British-influenced [schooling controlled by the invading colonizers]
  • Therefore local folk (4) could not fully embrace his Mesha-style innovations for schooling, farming, or homelife.
  • Shri B.V. Raman says that Mesha is the rashi of Britain.

If other maternal factors are present, may indicate premature loss of the Mother.

  • Material Girl 1958- dance song cinema Madonna = bandesha-4 Budha in 3 + maraka dhanapati-2 Chandra (mother). Tragically, her age-30 mother died of breast cancer when little Louise was only six.

Dissolution of owned properties and property claims

Ruler 4 occupies 12th-from-4. loss of schooling or incomplete course of study, diploma not received

  • POTUS-pair-32 Learn by Living 1884-1962 Eleanor Roosevelt [Rahu-yuti-Shukra-nīcha]-3. ER attended girls boarding school in England for only one year. Although she was smart and she loved the school, and the headmistress was especially fond of her, ER was forced to abandon her education at age 15. Exacerbated by nicha-Shukra and amplified by Rahu.

owned properties may lose their original value and are sold at a discount during periods of vikrama-pati-3

When bandesha-4 occupies 12th-from-svakshetra there is some loss of roots, loss of property, loss of basic socializing education.

  • The mother's folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms are not useful, one is not interested in their development, or one is somehow alienated from her mannerisms, her properties, her sense of belonging to a fixed place.

one may have received basic skills education without a deeper connection to traditions grounded in the land of his people.

One may be a capable skills-trainer of others, with a practical, manual or mental task orientation.

Clever but grounded in the use of words and helps to establish new talent, especially writers

if one is oneself a writer, may write upon topic such as what lies under the ground (4) or comment upon the foundations of folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms

  • POTUS-31 Challenge to Liberty 1874-1964 Herbert Hoover * Brihaspati-yuti-Shukra [nīcha] co-wrote wrote extensively with his wife Lou Henry Hoover about minerals mining and underground land survey (Shukra indicates that Punarvasu Lou was the primary author.)

  • God's Dream 1931- Anglican Archbishop Desmond Mpilo Tutu * [nīcha] Shukra-yuti-Surya + [uchcha] Budha-yuti-Ketu ** reporter and announcer on topics of social class, especially with regard to the massive foundational working classes who are often interpreted as material property (4)

May own much property but does not have a chance to dwell deeply on any of it (bandesha-4 in 12th-from-svakshetra) due to travel or business activity.

  • Mughal Emperor 1592-1666 Shah Jahan * parivartamsha Mangala-Meena-7 . Khurram needed to be on-the-road almost constantly to expand and defend the borders of Empire. Also Ketu-4

Must have conversation and frequent short-term travel in order to feel protected and secure.

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = [Surya in bhava-4]

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-4 [dik-bala]

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-4 [Ruchaka Yoga] defense of the environment, homeland, property


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-4 [Bhadra Yoga]

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-4 [Hamsa Yoga] much property, many transport vehicles

bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-4 [Malavya Yoga] [dik-bala]

bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-4 [Śaśaka Yoga]

** *

bandesha-4 in Bhava 4 = svakshetra

Folkways - home / foundations / education / security

National Defense

bandesha-4 svakshetra = auspicious for patriotism and loyalty to the ethnic culture of one's parents, especially the customary practices (folk religion, dress, language, manners) of the mother's people.

bandesha-4 in 4 = benefits from stable, nurturing parents, school-teachers or caretakers.

Excellent for vehicles, schools, and real estate

  • POTUS-11 Manifest Destiny 1795-1849 James Knox Polk was an ambitious slave-plantation owner who acquired ever more land and slaves throughout his adult career. Slaves in his view = a category of agricultural property.

If a negative graha, the parents may be conservative and limiting; nevertheless Chandra the natural regulator of 4 has no enemies

all styles of parenting are beneficial to the child if those styles are secure, protective, and internally consistent . Positive attribute of bandesha-4 in 4 guarantees the consistency.

Mother and mother's cultural roots = unshakable positive influence in one 's life, presuming an auspicious graha. Even svakshetra Shani in 4 grants a steady lawful mother and a conventionally reliable education.

TRANSPORTATION by Land-Sea-Air ++ PATHWAYS of the settlement

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-4 [Hamsa Yoga] much property, many transport vehicles


Natural teacher of adults and children who loves and promotes the traditions of their upbringing. Teaches the subject matter consistent with the graha and rashi, in a practical style geared to producing socially validated citizens. Patriotic.

Tremendous need for physical and psychic protection, which one obtains via the most secure and well-defended physical property .

Must have a well-defended home in order to feel protected and secure.

Defense of settlements [Mangala]

  • POTUS-19 Railroad Strike 1822-1893 Rutherford B. Hayes was a successful Civil War general whose army won most of its battles

True to the Roots

  • Heartbreak Hotel 1935-1977 Graceland Elvis Presley expressed the American South root culture by drawing out its deep rhythms, earth-bound agricultural lifestyle, African slave traditions and movements, and the inherited variations of Christian belief that bound together a mix of peoples in that unique Place of Settlement. Chandra dramapathi provided a religious element via the familiar worshipful hymns. Yet naturally given that Chandra occupies 8th-from-9th, Elvis Presley was also a frightening agent of upheaval (8) particularly in the way he included African passions, voice-tone and rhythms into his European speech, song, and dance.

Conditions of the parents overall, childhood home, foundational schooling, personal security, and a place of belonging.


Elk grazing in Oregon old forest

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-5 [svabhava]

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-5

bandesha-4 = [Mangala in bhava-5]


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-5


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-5

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bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-5


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-5


bandesha-4 in Bhava 5

Rooted, rhythmic habitual behaviors ground and stabilize the children, Romance, literary genius, willfulness, Speculative ventures, Games, intelligence, celebration, charisma, fame.

The native is distinctively intelligent yet generally not reckless, except perhaps in romance. Naturally other graha in bhava-5 must be considered.

bandesha-4 in 2nd-from-svakshetra, and in a trine house = auspicious for property ownership-stewardship and education.

Children have a strong sense of their cultural roots, through the food and stories transmitted via the mother's family. Strong attachment to the mother's family, strong matrilineal influence back several generations. Speculative profits from dealings in land and homes.

May start schools, own profitable schools, or win contests in schools. Typically, a creative and intelligent student, independent minded, less prone to drills and repetition, while more brightly charismatic, unless the graha delays.

May be a gifted teacher who brings a clever performance to teaching the core traditions, particularly subjects related to the nation of birth. Childhood home influenced by wealth and fortune through speculative ventures.

Needs political or romantic intrigue in order to feel protected and secure (5).

splendid placement for homeland politicians

ruler of 12th-from-5th (4) resides in bhava-5

  • withdrawal into secluded, private arrangements in matters of romance, politics, speculative ventures, creative performance, children

The rules of foundational support (4) is comfortable in the family-oriented 2nd-from-4th

Kendra-pati residing in a trikona generally produces beneficial effects. However, there is a certain 12-from undertow caused by bandesha-4 ruler of 12th-from-5th signifying Dissolutions of Center-Stage Roles while the bandhesha is occupying 5 = Center-Stage Roles

  • In politics (5) there is back-room (12) dealing.

  • In speculative finance (5) there may be a pattern of invisible, enclosed (12) gambling

  • In romance (5) private bedroom (12) relationships fly under the radar

The children (5) may have a home in a distant land (12)

The children are generally well educated and the mother's cultural roots are exceptionally influential in the children's character and upbringing.

Emphasis on educational discipline and the rule of customary behaviors in the mother's society or national culture may overwhelm the children's creative, personalized intelligence. However, when the bandhesha coordinates well with the resident graha in 4, the childhood foundations are secure.

Romance is grounded in the home culture.

one seeks emotional stability through the notoriously unstable, brilliant, theatrical experience of love and romance. Disappointment in romance on this account. In response one places one's core hope of stability into the process of birthing and raising children.

Concern with security (bhava-4), holding on to lands and properties (bhava-4), and other instinctive protective and defending actions pushes through into bhava-5 creativity.

bandhesha-4 in putrabhava-5 signifies stability (4) and a predictable, secure lifestyle Generally, including children (5). Not so comfortable for avant garde creativity, unique intelligence, or large gains from speculation since a regular, rhythmic routine is more important than dramatic displays. Yet one may be gifted with large properties and have a very creative, inspired way of managing one's lands.

Clever, creative methods of sustaining the national folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms despite the undertow of conservative cultural forces (bhava-4) who never want anything to change.

May be a superb trainer and socializing educator. This native should not stray far from the world of children, whether as a parent or a teacher. One's emotional stability is tied to children and the development of their intelligence.

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-6

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-6


bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-6


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-6 [svabhava]


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-6 * multiple service ministries; many health issues of the mother, broad scope of conflict in the home


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-6 * pleasure in service-servants-medicines; self-medication, addictions

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bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-6


bandesha-4 in Bhava 6

Loss of balance / enemies / disease / Poverty / Crime; argumentation, analysis, mentalization; medicine, ministry to sick and needy

* ill mother

Culture War

  • POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt * [nīcha] Shani-yuti-Guru. FDR had a reasonable foundational education befitting his birth into the leadership class. Budha-4. However, FDR was born to lead at a time of enormous cultural (4) transformation in the Euro-American world. He had the exceptionally difficult task to protect the foundational security of the Anglo-American culture while allowing the destruction of millions of lives in blood-warfare ([nīcha] Shani).

  • FDR was intensely involved in the decisions regarding which -- if any -- of the folk cultures (4) would survive en route to the New Age. Although it was assertively proposed that German culture become the foundation for the New Order, FDR was able to thwart that conformist rule led by Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler and consequently the Euro-American cultural model was empowered (4).

Disrupted home life. The childhood is often unhappy with numerous events of moving-house. Exploitive difficulties for the parents, particularly the mother.

  • POTUS-pair-37 Watergate 1912-1993 Pat Ryan Nixon * [nīcha] Shani-yuti-Rahu Her parents moved often, from one failed venture to the next. The children were expected to work as farmhands to ensure the family survival.

  • Friends 1969- drama-fashion Jennifer Aniston Shani+ [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Rahu =Shani's rewards arrive slowly. Although Ms. Aniston has enjoyed a prosperous, high-profile career in modeling and drama, her education ended with high school . Shani delays but does not (normally) deny. In matters of foundational security, property ownership-stewardship (4) and vehicles there is full security.

If other indicators point to a step-father (8th from Surya) the step-father can become an agent of harm toward the child, in Mangala-related ways, such as verbal violence or physical abuse (depending on drishti and rashi of Kuja).

The parents of a nativity displaying bandesha-4 in satkona may be victims of some type of addiction, social conflict, war, thievery, poverty, or they have been pressed into servitude by betrayal or broken contracts.

If bandesha-4 = Mangala in 6, much physical upheaval including circumstances of domestic violence and social war.

There may be criminal mis-doings ^6) in regard to real-estate and vehicles (4) but few consequences may arise due to the profitable and businesslike 3-11 angle between bhava-4 and its ruler.

  • .

....They subsequently ran a gamut of disease, poverty, and despair. Their survival was barely financed by loans (6) from hostile relatives (6) . His unstable childhood home collapsed as his mother descended into schizophrenia (6, mentality of the mother 3rd-from-4th). His schooling (4) in Germany was broken by the Nazi threat. Ketu-4 = absent or distracted parents.

  • Luckily for the Prince Consort, Budha-Mithunaya-6 grants excellent military planning and communication skills. He enjoyed a long career in military service (6), as the war-conflict setting is a mentally engaging environment for him.

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-6

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-6 = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Chandra care-takes, nourishes, protects, soothes, parents within unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices Psycho-emotional ailments for the native and servitude or debts for one's mother.

  • My Inventions 1856-1943 Nikola Tesla ' s mother was a domestic servant who suffered much exploitation and illness. His bandesha-4 Chandra-6 was much complexified and the ailments mentally exacerbated by Chandra yuti Mangala-yuti-Ketu. He developed a debilitating pattern of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder later in life.

bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-6 [svabhava] = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Budha announces, reports, converses, argues about these unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices

bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-6

bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-6 = the anchoring, stabilizing bandhesha moves into ari-sthana-6 unfairness, exploitation, conflict. Shukra pleasures, enjoys, balances, remedies, meditates unbalanced conditions of the homeland, the food sources, the land ownership, the cultural practices, the home and hearth. Native or native's mother may be prone to alcoholism or other sweet-sensual addictions, as a self-medicating method to numb some experience of childhood suffering.

  • Mad Monk 1869-1916 Romanov Grigori Rasputin was a lifetime alcoholic and visitor of brothels. Nevertheless and perhaps as a result, he appealed to aristocratic women in distress and was reputed as a healer.

  • India-PM 1917-1984 Martial Law Indira Gandhi * Guru-11 parivartamsha Shukra-6

bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-6

  • POTUS-19 Railroad Strike 1822-1893 Rutherford B. Hayes had bandhesha Shani-Mesha [nīcha] . His father died when Rutherford was still in utero. The family home was impoverished.

  • POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt * [nīcha] Shani-yuti-Guru * FDR was challenged by a manipulative, jealous mother who controlled his home and his education

  • Runaway Bride 1967- drama-commerce Julia Roberts * Ms. Roberts parents divorced; her father died when she was 10; she describes her upbringing as constrained, her stepfather as cruel and abusive

bandesha-4 in 3rd-from-svakshetra is generally less benevolent for matters of the early childhood home, the stability of the lives of the parents, and one's early foundational education.

One is constantly working, especially if Shani the Taskmaster rules here. Yet, the pay is low or no. Servitude, even when the material conditions are pleasant..

  • POTUS-pair-37 Watergate 1912-1993 Pat Ryan Nixon * [nīcha] Shani-yuti-Rahu Pat worked as a high-school teacher for low wages for two years before marriage. She also made thousands of announcements and presentations (3) over three decades of supporting her husband's platforms (platform, foundation = 4) - all for no pay. Their debt crisis (6) after RMN's resignation was dire, and they were facing felony tax evasion which could have resulted in the loss of their estate (4) through forfeiture to pay criminal fees.

bandesha-4 in bhava-6 indicates that the mother's relatives have a good deal of control over the behavior or life-style options of the mother, and that one may live with the maternal relatives at some time during the childhood years.

Harms the health of the parents.

  • Total Surrender 1910-1997 Mother Teresa of Kolkata [Guru-yuti-Budha] * left her abusive family home at age 17, moved to a foreign land (Ireland) and never again allowed her mother or sisters to see her. (bandesha-4 Mesha Chandra-yuti-Shani in 5 may indicate severe child abuse at the hands of both mother-Chandra and step-father nichha bandesha.)

Conflict, poverty, or medical imbalance for the mother's family, perhaps conflict going back several generations. Prostitution, illness, or deep servitude of mother, perhaps caused by psychological exploitation or physical captivity of war.

The mother's cultural roots (4) are distrusted or the physical structure of the home is untrustworthy, corrupt.

  • Mother and her property much controlled by her own siblings, but disagreements in those relationships and frustration or conflict through misuse of resources or greed.

  • One may be raised in the home of the mother's relatives, especially if Chandra or lagnesha is also in bhava-6. Heavy debt through student loans or other financing of education.

Positive outcomes

  • are numerous ... provided one understands one's own karma.

  • The self-knowing native accepts the destiny to work in unbalanced, blameful conditions that are rife with disappointment in broken contracts, debt, imbalance, and social conflict.

One may be a gifted educator (4) of financial skills for those who have foundered in home management, a teacher of debt management, operate a school which educates students in clinical use of medicine/drugs; or teach family conflict resolution, real estate skills training, farming and land management practices to those who have become unbalanced in their initial approach to matters of bhava-4.

  • Client with bandesha-4 in bhava-6 = had become very successful in the down markets of 2009-2010. Her profession? Distressed-property specialist. She is a real estate agent (4) who specializes in negotiating with loan-makers (6) on behalf of clients who are poised to lose their home to foreclosure.

  • She is brilliantly aware of her profession as a human services ministry . She treats every (blaming, frustrated, upset) client with financial accuracy, neutral compassion, and basic human respect.

Service and servants help to feel protected and secure.

Bodes poorly for emotional balance in one 's early childhood home. Sick, victimized, or abusive mother.

If a malefic + bandesha-4 in 3rd-from -svakshetra harms the education. Raised in an insulated, isolated home environment. Conflict in school due to willfulness and mental instability. Conflict in the family home, adversarial relationship between the parents.

A conservative and suspicious thinker with limited cultural knowledge; insecure because the family base is damaged.

Malefic influences however improve with time for upachaya effects, e.g. 3rd, 6th, 10th, and 11th angles.


  • Because bhava-6 is Budha's house of argument and criticism, one can expect to receive abundant criticism for one's schooling, parents, cultural roots, early childhood home, vehicles, property ownership-stewardship , and acts of patriotism.

  • Matters of cultural education Or nationalistic sentiment may become scandalous or even criminalized; one's ethnic identity may become a source of contention

If benefic, gives property ownership-stewardship but polarizing catalysis related tofinancial activities through suspicious communications; attracts storm damage to properties, poor crops, and difficult tenants.

Mother's identity is bonded to her siblings, who are greedy and unpleasant. False family mythologies mask the conflict of their youth. Unable to tell the truth about their fighting parents or conflicted home life, which makes it hard to get help. Remains self-indulgent, self-defensive, and unhappy.

If bandesha-4 is dignified, can give a good career in educational finance, mortgage lending, vehicle sales, or visiting nurse.

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = [Surya in bhava-7]

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-7

bandesha-4 [Mangala in bhava-7] occupies 4th-from-4th roots

bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-7

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bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-7 * education, vehicles, housing


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-7 counsel-advice


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-7 [dik-bala] * bandesha-4 in 4th-from-4th

** *

bandesha-4 in Bhava 7

Balance / marriage / contracts / agreements; alliances, equality, partnership

Ruler of 4 located in 4th-from-4th = extremely strong position for matters of legal advocacy and advising, particularly in matters of ethnic custom and property ownership-stewardship foundational schooling, transportation, building patterns, ruts-and-routines, cultural roots, boundary defense, or policing. One is often a vigorous nationalist or promoter of ethnic customs.

bandesha-4 in the sheltering, schooling, grounding, rhythmic, customary 4th-from-svakshetra = auspicious for matters of balance, agreement, partnership, schools, homes, real-estate contracts.

The mother's mother is often a grounding, protective figure. Even when other elements of the nativity are unstable, and even when conditions in bhava-4 are uncomfortable, ruler of 4 residing in 4th-from-4th grants adequate nourishment and shelter to sustain the lifetime.

The strongest protective benefits accrue when bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-7. However, this placement also implies that one seeks in the spouse-partner a caretaking parent-figure rather than an equal adult partner.

  • Layla 1945- guitarist Eric Clapton was born to a young teenage mom, and raised to adulthood by his maternal grandmother. The woman he thought was his elder sister was actually his bio-mom. Clapton identified his grandmother (7 = 4th-from-4th) as an anchor in his sometimes overwrought life.

Whatever other stressors afflict the life, one's education is assured

  • Lord of the Rings 1892-1973 linguist J.R.R. Tolkien [Surya-yuti-Budha] . Stressors included the early loss of his parents (Shani-4). At age three JRRT lost his father to a fatal hemorrhage. At age 12, his mother deceased from terminal diabetes. Yet, orphan Tolkien's education was managed by a priest friend of his mother's. He completed a Ph.D. and worked in classroom teaching for 30 years.

Nichha Shani ruling 4 might not be so nice

  • Telepathy 1880-1949 esoterica Alice Bailey * Shani-Mesha [nīcha] * Mother died at AB's age 6, followed by her father's death at her age 8. Raised in stricture by resentful, overburdened, disapproving, and punitive elderly relatives.

Highly supportive and comfortable placement for basic teaching roles.

  • Way of Zen 1915-1973 radio philosopher Alan Watts was known as a master teacher, whose explanations and examples in the previously remote area of Eastern Religions guided the next generation of western philosophers and educators

  • Lord of the Rings 1892-1973 linguist J.R.R. Tolkien * 30 years professor of linguistics

  • Telepathy 1880-1949 esoterica Alice Bailey * became a worldwide teacher of philosophy

4th and 4th-from-4th are both related to property ownership-stewardship and real estate dealings.

Excellent placement for educators, particularly those who teach adults or who teach in matters of law and contracts.

  • POTUS-28 The State 1856-1924 Woodrow Wilson * a professional history teacher at the college level, and later President of Princeton University. He was deeply identified with education, and indeed hailed from a long line of educators.

4th-from-4th also signifies the maternal grandmother, one's own mother's property holdings which may be controlled by the maternal grandmother. (Although 4th from Chandra is a better indicator of the emotional environment created by the agent = mother's mother.)

Spouse hails from a similar cultural background to one's own mother's family, and spouse may be a roots relative of that clan.

Spouse is a natural parent, patriotic, caretaker/steward of the land, and loves the home.

  • Lord of the Rings 1892-1973 linguist J.R.R. Tolkien * always praised his dear wife Edith as a model spouse and mother

If bandesha-4 is comfortably configured, the life-partner is possessed of considerable landed properties, and the partner very likely has a good education. * especially true when Budha or Guru = bandesha-4 /yuvati-pati-7 such as for Mithuna and Kanya lagna.

bandesha-4 in yuvati-bhava = suited to roles such as educational adviser or maker of partnership agreements with educators, home-builders, property-owners, parents, and other sheltering protectors.

Excellent position for land use attorney, property or vehicle adjudicator, assessor or evaluator (Tula, 7) of deeds and titles to property.

Benefits professional engagement in contract making;

also counselors on matters of schooling, examinations, property acquisition, and professional licensure.

Ruler of 10th-from-7 occupies 7

One's sense of cultural rootedness, being anchored in a fixed place, property ownership-stewardship , or environmental stewardship = represented by and expressed through the marriage partner.

Must have partnership and contractual agreement in order to feel protected and secure.

Vehicles and Landed Properties * ruler of 4 in 4th-from-4th

QUOTATION * Das comments

"The lord of the 4 is in 7, and the lord of the 4 has at least one beneficial placement attribute."

"You will be very lucky, and lead a happy life.

  • You or your father-in-law will possess much real estate."

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-8 * Urisha indriya-lagna * political transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, dramatic eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-8 * Mesha indriya-lagna * intuitive transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; emotional eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-8 * forceful transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; dynamic eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools


  • Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda + Guru

bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-8 * detailed transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, describer of eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-8 * many transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, abundant eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-8 * luxurious transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity; gracious eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools

bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-8 * harsh transformations of property, nationality, ethnicity;, resistance to eruptions or invasions of homeland, buildings, transport, schools

bandesha-4 in Bhava 8

  • Hidden knowledge and treasury; secrets; camouflage disguise masking

  • transformative and catastrophic change;

  • deep healing, surgery, tantra

Any graha which is born into randhra bhava becomes subject to the fast spinning of the cycle (8) of self-destruction and rebirth (8). The speed of change-of-form is often terrifying.

bandhesha-4occupies bhava-8, suggesting home-roots often dislodged by the ongoing cycles of identity-change (8).

Mysterious mother

A hidden house

Matters of the bhava which are ruled by graha in 8 are controlled by this fast-turning, re-cycling , identity-destroying and regenerating hidden life force. Effects of graha in 8 are frightening, secretive, occult, mysterious, hidden, shocking magical, rejuvenating and changing-changing-changing.

Matters of real-estate, dwellings, roadways, schools, vehicles may be shrouded in secrecy

  • USA-Gov-FL 1953- real-estate Jeb Bush * bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-8 rules 4 + 4th-from-4th * Guru-Bharani (finance) occupies 4th-from-Chandra [Mangala-7 deals parivartamsha Guru-8] camouflaged patronage, largesse * a real-estate businessman by trade, Governor Jeb Bush benefitted several of his real-estate developer friends by creating a Charter-schools program that used taxpayer monies (8 taxes) to fund private schools. Most of the schools were built for newly developed real-estate tracts, by his cronies.

May endure frequent house-shift (4) but usually each time is an upgrade since 8 is 5th-from-4.

bandesha-4 in 5th-from-svakshetra is benevolent for intelligent gambling and charismatic politics usually due to creative skills for managing sudden and shocking changes in the lives of the parents and caretakers.

One or both of the parents may have unstable identities, and the childhood home may be often transformed or reborn in sudden, unexpected ways. Caretakers may be masked agents or impostors. Yet 8 = 5th-from-4th, suggesting scholarship and celebrity if the graha in 8 are radiant. The young person often adapts to instability in the home with creative intelligence.

Someone else on the list of dramatis personae for the present incarnation steps in to take over the parenting role in a better upgraded version (usually better) due to the bandesha-4 being subject to trans-form-ation.

Several iterations of regeneration of the parent-figures. This pattern is usually materially successful due to the auspicious 5th angle.

The childhood home and mother's cultural roots are plunged into a mystical, transformative world of sudden, magical changes . It is performance genius which draws from solid ethnic roots.

bandesha-4 occupies 5th-from-svakshetra; this placement can be beneficial if properly understood . Native may need to endure may transformations of the parental home, the school-house or school-teaching culture, or even cataclysms of the nation-state

  • The concept of ownership vs. stewardship may be revisited many times.

Despite a reasonable schooling in the folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of owns own people, this angle may catapult one into an understanding that the nation or culture of birth (4) is a foundation for evolution (8) and not the fixed root of personal identity. One may have Learning Pathway experience of the fortune (bhagya) which arises from intelligence (5th-from) in matters of property boundaries, homes and vehicles, and cultural foundations (5th-from-4th). One indeed knows the folk and their folkways. One may "game" (5) the cultural roots via charismatic performance, entertainments and speculations. One does not cling to the simple life based on property ownership-stewardship and practice of inherited routines.

If schoolteaching is undertaken, it may be disturbing to the core stabilit of the body.

The cultural roots are not damaged and ethnicity remains meaningful, but there is another perspective, a secret one, which shows one how to transform the cultural inheritance into something quite ingenious and new.

May be an educator of medical or psychic healers, the operator of a tantric school, or one who creates a home for poisoned or traumatized persons.

Educated in the mysteries;

trained to be a facilitator of secrets. of course, having been educated, one realizes the knowledge is rather an 'open secret'

Excellent for midwives and surgeons, those who take the foundational materials and make some intelligent change to it.

Gain of stability and social security through the spouse's assets. one will move house often, and frequently one chooses not to own property at all.

Esp. if bandesha-4 is benevolent, one has all the use of properties, vehicles, schools etc. but does not need the effort of ownership).

If bandesha-4 is less benevolent, the energy field around one's home is always shape-shifting.

One may be betrayed or harmed in one's home, or by one's countrymen.

Must have privileged or magical knowledge in order to feel protected and secure.


Christian Orthodox Metropolitan Cathedral in Iași (Jassy) Romania

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-9

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-9 * familiar face in religion

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-9


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-9

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bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-9


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-9 anchors security via belief in fairness, aesthetic philosophy, womens sangha


bandesha-4 = [Shani in Bhava-9] anchors security via orthodoxy, fearful worldview, limiting beliefs.


bandesha-4 in Bhava 9 = folk beliefs

kinder-kuche-kirke roots emerge via father - doctrine - divinity - human discourse regarding the paradigm of belief (9)

Generally some conflict (6/8) between the localized view (4) and high theoretical wisdom (9) unless other graha accompany the bandesha-4 within dharmasthana. Tendency for bandesha-4 to transfer the folk beliefs of 4 into the university theories of 9.

One may have a particular genius for carrying the property-ownership matters of 4 such as housing, land use, water use, deeds of title, environmental site-management etc. into the theoretical, principled discussions of the temple-9.

  • POTUS-31-pair Girl Scouts 1874-1944 author Lou Henry Hoover gained public respect for her independent supervision of the rebuilding of the presidential rural retreat in Virginia. She understood the principles of building, and could communicate [Budha] her intentions clearly. Even in those gender-prejudiced days of the early 1930's the male workers including architects and engineers were willing to follow her guidance (9)

Should the graha which is rules bhava-4 be socially dignified, one may demonstrate expertise in legal theory of property, philosophy of environmental law, development of constitutional principles of education, and similar bandhu-bhava-4 local input producing dharmabhava-9 global output.

Always problematic 6-8 angle, even when the exponent is socially successful

The awkward ashtaka 6-8 challenge-angle between 4 and 9 brings out the genius of 4-9 only in conflicted settings, when the old local cult or the old property rights or the old local schooling (4) are in conflict with some type of globalizing influence (9).

Thus bandesha-4 in 9 = generally a good angle for professional who are trained to manage local-global conflicts that occur in the process of social-class change, such as attorneys and religious counselors.

Home-ownership, cultural boundaries, Parenting and Schoolteaching (4) are prone to conflict due to the draw of higher knowledge (9) but ultimately the results are favorable.

  • Louisiana-Gov 1893-1935 Kingfish Huey P. Long was expelled from high school for distributing leaflets of political criticism toward the school's policies. He attended bible seminary to become a preacher, but left after a few weeks. He tried to study at the University of Oklahoma law school, but lost focus during the first semester. He was finally granted a license to practice law after attending Tulane law school for a short time, then receiving permission to challenge the bar exam, which he passed using personal knowledge. He went on to become governor and US Senator, and his ideas (9) are still discussed.

Faith of our Fathers

Even when bandesha-4 remains steadfastly parochial in its outlook, one may become a familiar representative of the fundamental and customary faith of an ethnic people.

Articulator preserver or exponent of folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms, rhythms, roots, routines

Customary, routine-seeking bandesha-4 occupies adversarial 6th-from-svakshetra. Foundational schooling (4) and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms can pervade higher discourse of philosophical principles (9) placing habitual folk beliefs of a settled people (4) in conflict with authentic philosophical or theological discussions (9).

Parochialism, fundamentalism, folk heritage tend to enter the philosophical apprehension of higher dharma

Nature, environment, roots, Homeland rhythms (4)

= expressed in Philosophical or sacred teaching (9)

A gifted preacher who can transmit high ritual while maintaining an emotional interest in the emotional well being of the audience.

Patriotism and ethnic roots expressed via the inspirational pulpit.

A seeker of religious and philosophical truth, but rarely at rest in a single set of beliefs.

Routine transportation (Commute)

  • Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin [Surya-yuti-Budha] -9 * BJF was a packet-ship commuter (4 transportation) between the US and the UK during most of his adult life. His wife Deborah hated sea travel and she stayed in Philadelphia. Surya-9 ruler of spouse Simha=7th-from-Chandra occupies 6/8 from 4-transport.


  • Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin [Surya-yuti-Budha] [9] The final decades of Franklin's life (4 retirement) were spent primarily in his second home near London (second home = 11 = 8th-from-4) . 11 is also 2nd-from-Chandra = 2nd alliance. BJF's London landlady had grown fond of him.

Troubles in the home (6th-from-4th) -- yet often, help from high-priests or philosophers

bandesha-4 in 6th-from-svakshetra indicates a next-step development of principled understanding which is motivated by conflict (6) with the ritual routines and rhythms of one's birth-culture. May quarrel with customary acts of piety, rhythmic folkways, ancient patterns, and established cultural norms or explore alternative doctrinal paradigms in a somewhat adversarial quest for higher meaning.

Tendency to need to break free of the roots culture in pursuit of the next step in one's development, and that next step is often a new paradigm of belief that is not well matched to the parents' cultural grounding.

Mother's cultural roots are deep in a solid moral philosophy. Mother's lineage may include priests or guru-type religious teachers, who have strong opinions on moral and aesthetic matters. However, one will not be satisfied with that into which one was born.

One may become a professor or scholar-administrator with explicit critical consciousness of which educational values are being transmitted to the student generation, and why. May be acutely aware of the conflict between society's need for stability via cultural indoctrination, vs. the need of the higher mind to seek a non-traditional path.

Must have religious doctrine, sacred teachings, or life-philosophy in order to feel protected and secure. However, Most varieties of dogma are in conflict with the cultural roots and owned lands, due to bandhesha in unbalanced 6th-from-4th

  • POTUS-04 USA-Constitution 1751-1836 James Madison [Shukra-yuti-Surya] * nominally attended Anglican liturgy, but his revolutionary American beliefs stood in conflict with the royalist Church of England.

Religious (9) properties (4), although these are disputed, conflicted, and problematic due to the 6th-from angle


Is likely to be a well-educated person with solid grounding in his own cultural foundations, yet perhaps tending a bit toward unbalanced judgments or indebtedness in his handling of property matters. At least he may be not much in agreement with the prevailing pedagogy of the day - due to bandesha-4 in argumentative 6/8-from-4th .

Father may be an educator, grantor of titles of licenses, vehicles manager, or property manager.

  • The father of POTUS-pair-43 School Libraries 1946- Laura Welch Bush was in the real-estate housing construction business

  • the father of POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison * Shani-yuti-Ketu was a slave-plantation tobacco farmer, but under the influence of the Quaker teachings 9(0 he freed his slaves [Ketu]. He then moved his family to the capital city of Philadelphia, where his business failed and the Society of Friends excommunicated him. * Shani-yuti-Ketu ++ ruler of 4 in 6th-from-4th

  • POTUS-04 USA-Constitution 1751-1836 James Madison [Shukra-yuti-Surya] * his father was a wealthy owner of elegant homes on slave-labor agricultural plantations (4). James was born into landed privilege, but due to Ketu-11 he wandered away from the income-producing properties and his net wealth plunged downward.

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-10 [dik-bala]

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-10

** *

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-10 [dik-bala]


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-10


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-10


bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-10


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-10


High visibility, Familiar to Folks

bandesha-4 folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of a settled people enters karma-sthana-10 profession, Leadership, Prestige, visibility, dignity

bandesha-4 in 7th-from-svakshetra = generally quite auspicious.

Serves the public through basic education, enhancing national and regional security, supporting the defense of lands and roots culture.

Brings parental, conservative, land-owning, property cultivating instincts to the leadership role. A patriotic and localized viewpoint, not global insight.

May be much more popular with the regional base than with the national base. Tribal attributes, local folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms, us-against-them boundary distinctions, overall popular and trusted.

bandesha-4 in the equitable and just 7th-from-svakshetra = auspicious.

Sincerely patriotic leadership from a property-ownership, foundational, "roots " perspective.

Lawfully upholds and represents the ethnic folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms of the people who are settled on the land.

Patriotic, parochial, comfort from the past, nostalgic, downward looking and backward looking (wistfully).

If Mangala's natural instincts for sporting competition = over-amplified or Kuja otherwise becomes combative, there may be dominance issues with matters of 4 such as lack of tranquility in the childhood home, parental fighting, aggressive car-driving.

Extreme case of Mangala activates -4 + drishti into 4 + Kuja amplified by Chandra-yuti-Rahu + incoming drishti from Shani-8

May govern (10) under a patriarchal (9th) facade honoring the customary (4) beliefs of a settled people.

  • Total Surrender 1910-1997 Mother Teresa of Kolkata [Guru-yuti-Budha] was a staunchly conservative Roman-rite Catholic

  • Italy-Dictator 1883-1945 Fascist Benito Mussolini had a love-hate relationship with religion in his youth, but after he gained absolute authority in Italy, his fascist governments strictly enforced the laws of Catholic doctrinal morality

Houses of Life + Houses of Worship

  • Christian Science 1821-1910 Mary Baker Eddy * Mangala-10 rules 4 * supervised the construction of many beautiful churches

Governs with support from and toward the folk- schooling and customary licensing practices.

Reputed for transportation, roadways, waterways, airways, and vehicles

Parents are generally dignified.

  • Christian Science 1821-1910 Mary Baker Eddy. Her land-owning parents (4) were respected people - especially her mom. Her father had a reputation for aggressive policing of the rural settlement [Mangala] according to his conservative religious beliefs about correct behavior.

Promotes social security and continuation of the presence of a people in their place. Iconic, broadly visible representation (10) of property-ownership, parenting and schooling.

  • England-King 1491-1547 Henry-8-Tudor [Surya-yuti-Guru] * famed for extensive land acquisitions and strong leadership regulating the former Church of Rome nationalized properties

May provide iconic leadership in curriculum with a strong characteristic of ethnic purity and consistency, roots values, and return to basics.

  • Christian Science 1821-1910 Mary Baker Eddy * Mangala yogakaraka rules 4-foundations ++ 9-dharma. MBE insisted that her methods of spiritual healing promoted a return to basics within the nearly 2000-year tradition of Christian worship and practice. She preached that these medical methods were based in the ancient, foundational scripture of the faith and that those who avoided physicians and healed by prayer alone were simply applying the rules laid down by the original Christians. Mangala-10 innovation * rules 4-routines, basics + 9-preaching, doctrine, sacred truths.

Prefers a rhythmic, habitual lifestyle, and wishes to ensure the methods of transmission of cultural manners from one generation to the next.

bandesha-4 in 10 = iconic leadership the agricultural, territorial, land-owning instincts of one's folk

  • Silly Love Songs 1942- Beatle Paul McCartney * public icon and spokesperson for organic agriculture harkening to customary farming rhythms, traditional medicine including marijuana, ancestral brewings, and parenthood.

Solid and reliable, emotionally steady, unchanging public personality. One's mother has a leadership role and one takes one's direction from her.

  • Visible public upholder of the Old Ways of being in the Earth, conventional property rules, ways of sheltering and sustaining an ethnicity.

staunch advocate of lawful property ownership-stewardship and traditional methods of stewardship of the land.

  • POTUS-26 National Parks 1858-1919 Theodore Roosevelt * vigorous proponent of the extensive National Park system which allowed the federal government to buy vast tracts of beautiful lands before they would be ruined by industrialization, mining, foresting, and transportation.

Must have a governing or executive role in order to feel protected and secure.

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-11

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-11

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-11

** *

bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-11 * commercial profits from properties of lands, vehicles, underground


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-11 * fruits of wisdom from old roots, from teaching, from folkways

bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-11


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-11

bandesha-4 in Bhava 11

bandesha-4 = folkways, patriotism, parents especially Mother

bhava-11 = marketplace gains, material goals and achievements; social participation movements and economic participation

economic income (11) sourced from matters of bhava-4 including vehicles of transportation, shelters, roots, things underground, real-estate, agricultural lands, fishing, marine lifestyles, homewares, nourishment, schooling, and local rhythms

With bandhesha in 8th-from-svakshetra, one may be more comfortable in a next-step country than in one's own homeland. Depending on the graha in 4 and in 11, one may be a traveler who frequently moves away from the home base.

There may be a forced transformative even disastrous rift between customs of the childhood home and the rhythms of folk life, as the foundations of life demand movement into the rebirthed identity of a shift in patriotic allegiance, or homeland passport, or loyalty to the mother-motherland and her people (mother may include both parents as a protective unit). One tends to rift-and-shift away from the birth roots in a bid to be rejuvenated and reborn.

  • POTUS-07 Indian Removal 1767-1845 Andrew Jackson + [nīcha] [Budha-yuti-Shukra] Surya-11 parivartamsha Guru-4 . AJ suffered devastating losses of key family members during childhood. Father died before AJ was born, mother died of cholera when AJ was 14, and both brothers died from disease and brutality during the Revolutionary War. He was said to be a bully and aggressive personality who alienated his remaining relatives. Nevertheless, AJ married well, rose from poverty to gain a prosperous slave-labor planation, and earned (11) handsomely from frontier land speculation, After numerous attempts to kill him, AJ died peacefully aged 78, at home.(4)

bandesha-4 in 8th-from-svakshetra = less benevolent for mother's well-being, but gives inheritance of landed property rights and hidden assets.

Mother is somewhat instable because she is prone to quick cycles of identity transformation; however, she is gainful and her child benefits from mother's social connectivity.

Mother: gainful remarriage and new identity

  • The mother of Publisher 1960-1999 attorney JFK-Jr was POTUS-pair-35 editor 1929-1994 Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. The son's nativity bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-11 shows that Mrs. K-O morphed her public social identity when she re-married to Mr. Onassis in a contract widely regarded as having a primarily economic motivation. Indeed, she admitted as much saying she was driven by concern to protect her children. After Mr. Onassis died, JFK-Jr 's mother Jacqueline again reinvented herself as a literary editor and partner of a Belgian diamond merchant.

bandesha-4 in 8th-from-svakshetra is only slightly auspicious for matters of schooling, vehicles, or property ownership-stewardship

All these undertakings will be profitable, but one may feel that one does not have much control over the trajectory from one's foundations (such as the college major field) into the actual method of earnings. Parents will provide a legacy of some variety.

one is essentially a teacher (4) who promotes a particular curriculum or science via large assemblies (11). One is generally able to be financially gainful (11) while doing so in fact educating others can be a main source of income. (Other income is often from other items within the portfolio of bandhu bhava-4 such as rents upon landed properties and buildings.)

Good auspice for business in sale of instructional materials or turn-key educational systems. Any relationship between 4 and 11 shows profit from educational activities.

Education industry is a majority employer in USA.

Direct and indirect profits from the schools and diploma-holders

The people and place where one had received one's upbringing, manners, and schooling form a strong constituency within the social network and provide a basis for gainfulness.

Even coming from humble beginnings, one may attend a prestigious academy, college or professional school which forms the springboard of "who you know".

Gains from one's formal education and teaching dharma in the marketplace. May be a business educator; a scientist; or an educator in the fields of technical, social or professional networking.

Gainful capabilities, esp. income from educational products, land/property products or transactions. Promotes a patriotic, conservative persona but may be more of a freethinker than s/he reveals.

Profit from the home culture, roots, foundations, old ways, ancient boundaries, places of settlement, ethnicity, schooling (4) * but because 11 occupies 8th-from-4th, there must be some sudden force of unexpected change which also invigorates a new identity

May handle innovative products or digital technology which transform conventional primary educational settings.

one profits from stimulating professional networking, and providing other connectivity functions which expand the scope of basic socialization. (4th lord in transformative/destructive 8th-from-svakshetra, profits from changing its base).

Must have engagement with a large conceptual system in order to feel protected and secure.

Earnings from landed property:

Public Figures

bandesha-4 = Surya in bhava-12

bandesha-4 = Chandra in bhava-12

bandesha-4 = Mangala in bhava-12


bandesha-4 = Budha in bhava-12


bandesha-4 = Guru in bhava-12 * many meditations, much sanctuary

bandesha-4 = Shukra in bhava-12


bandesha-4 = Shani in bhava-12


bandesha-4 in distant realms Bhava 12 =

dreams / meditation / sanctuary /subconscious / private worlds

bandesha-4 in 9th-from-svakshetra = auspicious.

confessional topics bring spiritual healing and wisdom.

bandesha-4 in 12 may own land (4) in a distant country or a country far away from one's homeland (12) if the graha is strong.

  • "O" 1954- multimedia Oprah Winfrey owns the property and buildings and pays for the school (4) operations in South Africa, a land distant from her homeland

Otherwise, deepest connections to land and the traditions of the mother's family are plunged into the realm of the subconscious imagination.

The home customs, routine and regular habits of a people, roots and rhythms, may be trapped in a world of ignorance or or dreamy uncertainty; the basis of life shifts as if in a dream.

Home (4) tends to be influenced by the imagination (12) May possibly have a crumbling or insubstantial quality if Ketu-12.

  • The Tower 1865-1939 William Butler Yeats * renovated an ancient, crumbling invasion-defending stone Norman Tower and made it his home-base for life (However, he died in France and was often away). Bandesha = Budha-12

Foreign guests from distant lands come visiting in the home

  • POTUS-pair-41 + POTUS-43 mother 1925-2018 Barbara Pierce Bush offered her home as a haven for visiting international guests. [uchcha] Shani-12 rules bhava-4 home dwelling shelter ++ Shani occupies the auspicious 9th-from-4th. In the comfortable confines of her home, BB hosted decades of foreign guests , particularly those concerned with the family's investments in oil and gas properties (4). She did not generally like to go out, but was happy to have beneficial people come in.

  • Nepal 1945-2001 The Last Hindu King Birendra Bir Bikram Shah [nīcha] * his parents entertained foreign dignitaries. His education (4) was conducted almost entirely in foreign lands (12).

May teach in an enclosure such as an ashram, monastery, hospital, prison, or spa. Little social recognition for teaching, parenting, or caretaking behaviors.

Limited identity as a parent or custodian; yet one loves the land patriotically because bandesha-4 has found the 9th from svabhava in a moksha trine of sincere understanding. Works quietly on matters of environmental preservation and care.

May be a traveling educator, teach to the international tourist industry, or be a chaplain in hospital or retreat/reserve camp.

Although the 9th angle indicates spiritual balance, one or both of the parents may be unavailable due to distance, isolation, hospitalization, meditative retreat, or imprisonment.

  • Raag Khamaj 1920-2012 sitarist Ravi Shankar was raised by his mom in a group of seven siblings. A maternal uncle provided social security. RS' father had left the family in Bengal, relocated to London, and remarried in London. Little Rabindra met his dad for the first time in London age-8. Naturally, mom was not too happy about this situation, but she too was compensated by RS Chandra-Vṛścika [nīcha] trine to his Guru-Karkata [uchcha] 5. RS became notoriously profligate as an adult, Yet, his reputation and skill seemed to become enhanced by his personal freedoms.

Depending on graha yuti the bandesha there may be house-shifts driven by the imaginative need to relocate, but these new shelters are likely all fairly close to the homeland roots.

  • Homeopathy 1755-1843 Dr. Samuel Hahnemann notoriously moved house with his 11 children numerous times as he sought a better place to write. The moves were mainly local within his birth valley in Saxony. A final house shift after his second marriage, completely away from the home-culture into urban Paris, brought his practice and reputation to a positive pinnacle, suggesting the final upgrade.

Mother may have been unavailable in the home due to illness perhaps, or an outside social life, or mother was an exceptionally quiet person with little outer life.

  • The Tower 1865-1939 William Butler Yeats * his mother famously lost her mental health during his young adulthood

Alternatively, the foundational education (4) may be established in boarding schools; one may live in a dormitory (12) rather than live at home

  • UK-Duchess 1947- Camilla of Cornwall was sent away from her native England to complete her education at a boarding school in Switzerland

Self or mother may have been primarily educated in a protected enclosure such as a boarding school or refugee camp. Quality of the education is high or low depending on the graha.

Must have quiet and solitude, often the sanctuary of private prayer, in order to feel protected and secure.

May signal the dissolution or loss of a foundational, protective structure such as a home or a school.

  • Banker to the Poor 1940- microcredit Muhammad Yunus [Chandra-yuti-Ketu] * when he was nine years old, his birth country British India was dissolved. Mother suffered significant mental-emotional illness.

  • The Tower 1865-1939 William Butler Yeats * during his childhood (4) his family shifted between Ireland and England several times. He was in and out of various schools in both lands, never finishing, and as an adult he lived in France as well.

Generally signifies that the relationship with the mother's folk and their properties, while often helpful due to the trine angle, is invisible and dissolved.

  • UK-PM Path to Power 1925-2013 Margaret Thatcher [uchcha] Shani-yuti-Budha * known to be alienated from mother, who criticized MRT's marriage. Although her parents provided all basic support and MRT enjoyed a solid middle-class education including a bachelor's degree from Oxford followed by a law license, MRT's autobiography made no mention of her mother.

Yet with bandesha-4 in 12, the walls of enclosure both psychic and physical which create a feeling of protection and shelter may dissolve or be eroded by the intensity of one's dreams.

There may be goings-on within the home (4) that are not clearly seen (12) due to the curtained, invisible, enclosed nature of 12. Character of the bandupathi may reveal.

  • Calif-Gov-pair 1955- journalist Maria O. Shriver = ruler of bhava-4 = dhava-karaka Guru-12 representing the first husband. She was surprised to discover that her husband had been conducting an extramarital affair within their home for many years, indeed enjoying this expansion in their own bedroom (12)


Pema Chödrön in Buddha's Daughters, pages 56–57

"When things fall apart and we're on the verge of we know not what, the test for each of us is to stay on that brink and not concretize.

The spiritual journey is not about heaven and finally getting to a place that's really swell. In fact, that way of looking at things is what keeps us miserable.

Thinking that we can find some lasting pleasure and avoid pain is what in Buddhism is called samsara, a hopeless cycle that goes round and round endlessly and causes us to suffer greatly.

The very first noble truth of the Buddha points out that suffering is inevitable for human beings as long as we believe that things last—that they don't disintegrate, that they can be counted on to satisfy our hunger for security.

From this point of view, the only time we ever know what's really going on is when the rug's been pulled out and we can't find anywhere to land .

We use these situations either to wake ourselves up or to put ourselves to sleep.

Right now—in the very instant of groundlessness#8212;is the seed of taking care of those who need our care and of discovering our goodness."

14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso

  • The Dalai Lama's Little Book of Inner Peace: The Essential Life and Teachings

"...I try to stay joyful.

If we want to work effectively for freedom and justice, it is better to do so without anger or deviousness.

If we ourselves feel calm, and if we act with a sincere motivation, we can accomplish many things in the 30 or 50 active years of our life.

And if some positive results have already been seen from this approach, I think I can say that this is in part because of my commitment to the pacifist cause, a commitment which is motivated by a genuine belief in the brotherhood of mankind.

We are not a very large or powerful nation , but our way of life, our culture, and our spiritual tradition have helped us follow the way of peace even at times of tremendous difficulty and hardship, and have given us courage in our wish to develop love and compassion.

When the time comes, the Tibetan people longs with all its heart to take responsibility for the high plateau, which is our homeland , and to transform it into a sanctuary of peace where mankind will live side by side with nature, in harmony."


You said during the reading that I had the potential to change countries numerous times. You said that is because the ruler of the bhave for homes is in the bhave that is 8th from home-base. I have Ketua in bhavae-4 and ny Chandra is in Chumbha rasashi You said I am restlessly looking for higher income. Hmm, that is very true.

I moved from Malaysia to Brunei, and fro Brunei to Taipei, and from Taipei to Paris France, and from Paris to the Rotterdam. I am in the Netherlands now and working with my shipping company. My lifemate (like you say) is boring here in the Rotterdam and we have been talking very much about it it time to go to a new place. We have two beautiful small kids and their education is very important for us. My company has many offices in the world.

This is my question what I don't understand (yet). According to Jyotis, My dear lifepartner has a plan, and my two kids also have their own plan. So what happens if their plan says don't move but my plan would like to move to new country? All members of family have to move together and all plans will coordinate.



Regarding the next country-move, your Jyotishavidya nativity

will show your move to a new country regardless of anyone else's move. Usually if the whole family together is going to shift to a new land, the Jyotisha nativities of all the family members would show coordinated patterns (periods of ruler of 8th-from-4th, ruler of the revolutionary, emotionally turbulent, perpetually transformative, trauma-inducing 8th-from-Chandra , ruler of 12th-from-4th, ruler of 12th-from-chandra, periods of Ketu, periods of graha which are related to the typical rulers) .

However, That primary determiner of your move is your own VImshottari Dasha period timetable. If you do a country move, it was pre-planned eons ago and it is necessary for your spiritual development.

The nativities of your near and dear ones may be aligned or the might not be aligned with your country move. If that coordination does not occur, it suggests that you would move only with those who were planned to go with you. Common examples of a family not moving all together would include situations where children remain in one country for schooling while their parents (or both parents) travel for work, or children go to a different country to live with relatives, or other arrangements that are sage and beneficial for everyone but nevertheless do involve splitting the family locations.

With Jyotisha divinatory reasoning, it is necessary to set aside materialistic, positivistic, social propaganda about cause-and-effect relationships.

The causation mechanism in Jyotisha begins with spiritual programming, percolates down to mental level of thoughts. From causative thoughts, it gravitates down to emotions, and from emotions the urgos (energy) finally down to the social-physical level. Material circumstances never cause anything. Material circumstances are only a temporary result of their antecedent thoughts and feelings.

Wishing you and your family every happiness, healing from sorrow, guidance by inner light, and success in all of life's endeavors,


Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotishavidya


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