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50+ year career in fashion accessories design perfume + jewelry + eyewear luxury-goods commerce drama + song + cinema Sofia Costanza Brigida Villani Scicolone Ponti a.k.a. Sofia Villani Scicolone a.k.a. Sophia Lazzaro Earth-birth Thu-20-Sep-1934
1957, sophia Loren [age 23] the year of her double-proxy marriage to Carlo Ponti |
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cinematic dramatist publicized celebrity fashion eyewear entrepreneur 1934- Sofia Villani Scicolone Lazzaro = Sophia Loren birth information from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Loren
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Rising Nakshatra Feminine Public-Figure Examples BPL COMMENTARY For Rohini births in the feminine valence, the condition of reflective, sheltering, undulating, rhythmic, habitual, culturally rooted, boundary-defending, security-seeking, nourishing, parental, matrikaraka Chandra may considerably affect the outcome. For those born into the Soma-ruled paradigm of Suravi, mother-figures, protectors, guardians, elemental spirits, natural environments, waters, roots, eggs, gardeners, farmers, fisher-folk, caretakers, foundation-builders, police, schoolteachers, parents, providers of nourishment , and defenders of the root culture, may be especially influential. Throughout life, whatever their travels for safety or financial need, rohini-born remain profoundly patriotic toward their homeland and anchored in familiar domestic routines. Throughout life, whatever their travels for safety or financial need, rohini-born remain profoundly patriotic toward their homeland and anchored in familiar domestic routines. Guidance for the Rohiṇī-born is provided by instructors from the civilizations of Al-debaran. Their purpose is to sweetly protect , defend, and shelter all the creatures and environments which come under their care. Praujapatya-born ladies are often found in the domestic arts, in caretaking and protective roles, or in specialties of home decor and property valuation. Their purpose is calming. Typically feminine births in Rohini indicate a comfortable, grounded focus into the realms of beauty, banking, luxury goods, and family lineage treasuries. All four pada occur within Vrishabha rashi. Surabhi-born thus express a tension between the materialistic, partnership-driven duality of Shukra versus the emotionally based, need-driven behaviors of Chandra. One seeks to be cared for in a sensual fashion. Known for their intuitive negotiation and equity-seeking skills, rohini ladies are found in the worlds of finance, food, fashion, investment, evaluation, collections, and treasuries, with special emphasis on real-estate and jewelry. Themes of luxury accommodation, sensual nourishment, family affluence, and personal beauty may contextualize Rohini's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Rohiṇī - Aldebaran |
QUOTATION Rohiṇī Shil-Ponde.(1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 92 " ...a round face, fair complexion, and a very nice figure. Certain parts of Rohini Rising will correspond with a very beautiful face and body.
Besides her beauty of face and figure she will have a keen intellect ;
good at discussion and repartee,
She will be devoted to her parents
because her personal inclinations will be clean, honest, and upright ." [end quote]
Sophia Loren in the 1950's
Sophia Loren in her 60's |
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Sophia Loren and her husband Carlo Ponti in elder years. When they first married in 1957, she was age-23 and he was age-45. They had been married for fifty years when he deceased in 2007. |
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Biographical Details matched to Vimshottari Dasha bhukti
[Mangala Mahadasha] [age birth until age 2.2 ]
Mar-1934 until Mar-1937 Janma Sade-Sati Kumbha
Thu-20-Sep-1934 Earth-birth as Sofia Costanza Brigida Villani Scicolone at the Clinica Regina Margherita in Roma, Italia * Mangala-Ketu bhukti ++ dvithya Sade-Sati SL was born during a brief gochara Shani-vakri into Makara 1935 [SL age 01] invasion of Abyssinia by Benito Mussolini. The dictator spends the national treasury building weapons and manpower for the Empire-building war. Italian economy is drained by war-spending, and the people become impoverished. SL grows up with increasing resource-scarcity. * Mangala-Shukra bhukti * Shukra rogesha war, poverty [Rahu Mahadasha] [age 2.2 until age 20.2]
1950 [SL age 16] begins cinema career * Rahu-Shukra bhukti * Shukra-Simha lagnesha 1950 [SL age 16] meets cinema director Carlo Ponti, a 22-years-older married man with a family. According to SL, their connection was tangible. * Rahu-Shukra bhukti * [Shukra-Singha] lagnesha rules Guru-dhavakaraka [Guru Mahadasha] [age 20.2 until age 36.2]
1956 [SL age 22] begin international visibility via five-film contract with Paramount Studios * Guru-Guru svabhukti * Guru rules 11-revenues, paychecks 17-Sep-1957 [SL age 23] [CP age 45] Although cinema-director Carlo Ponti remained married to his first wife, sL agreed to a double-proxy marriage-1-of-1 in Mejico. The unorthodox [Rahu] wedding was not legally accepted by most countries. In Italy it was interpreted as bigamy, and was eventually annulled.. * Guru-Shani bhukti * Rahu-yuti-Shani ++ samchara Rahu-Ketu Tula-Mesha contact Guru -- but no contact to marriage axes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_marriage 1960 [SL age 26] starring role in the critically acclaimed + popularly successful film Two Women = dozens of artistic prizes * Guru-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 5-cinema kārakāmsha ++ dvadasa Sade-Sati Jan-1964 until Dec-1966 Janma Sade-Sati Kumbha
1962 [SL age 28] granted the Academy Award [Oscar] Best Actress for a foreign-language performance * Guru-Shukra bhukti * Shukra-Simha lagnesha ++ dvadasa Sade-Sati 1965 [SL age 31] Following SL's 14 year liaison with beloved Ponti [illegitimated by Italian law] Carlo Ponti's first wife agrees to a divorce in France. SL and Ponti are free to marry * Guru-Shukra bhukti * Shukra rules 6-divorce, 1-lagnesha ++ janma Sade-Sati 09-Apr-1966 [SL age 32] [CP age 54] = legally [re]married with Carlo Ponti * Guru-Chandra bhukti * Chandra rules Karkata navamsha ++ samchara Rahu-Ketu Vṛṣa-Vṛścika contact navamsha R-K. ++ janma Sade-Sati 29-Dec-1968 [SL age 34] celebrated the birth of child-1, musical orchestra director Carlo Ponti Jr.* Guru-Rahu chidradasha + [Rahu-yuti-Shani] rules Chandra ++ dvithya Sade-Sati [Shani Mahadasha] [age 36.2 until age 55.2]
1976 [SL age 42] grieved the decease of bio-dad . SL said that she had met her dad only three times during her life * Shani-Ketu bhukti 1980 [SL age 46] initiated, designed + modeled an eponymous internationally successful line of spectacles for women [as of 2023, still globally popular among women's designer-branded eyewear] * Shani-Shukra bhukti * Shukra-lagnesha, designs, contracts 1982 [SL age 48] served 18-day prison sentence for tax evasion. No harm to her career * Shani-Surya bhukti * Surya rules 12th-from-Surya = temporary incarceration [Budha Mahadasha] [age 55.2 until age 72.2]
09-May-1991 [SL age 57] grieved the decease of mother, romilda Villani * Budha-Budha svabhukti * Budha rules 2nd-from-matribhava ++ janma Sade-Sati Mar-1993 until Jun-1995 Janma Sade-Sati Kumbha
[ Ketu Mahadasha] [age 72.2 until age 79.2]
10-Jan-2007 [SL age 72] [CP age 94] grieved the decease of lifepartner Carlo Ponti * Ketu-Ketu svabhukti [Shukra Mahadasha] [age 79.2 until age 99.2]
Jan-2023 until Apr-2025 Janma Sade-Sati Kumbha
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Salient features of the nativity
[Sparkling Splendid Surya] pitri-karaka [father] jyoti-karaka [light] [svabhava] [homebound-anchoring bandesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] check Budha + Budha-drishti to source Surya's logical intelligence, analytical certainty, fatherly assistance [applauded center of service ministry] [celebrated for offering assistance] [ confident political analysis] [intelligent display of ailments and imbalanced conditions] [genius for portrayal of victimized homeland characters] [if with uchcha-Budha, fortune from accurately calculated speculative finance] ... [profitable-systematic Uttaraphalgunī-3] [navamsha Surya-Kumbha] intuitively confident populist entertainments [Aryaman- Surya-yuti-Budha-Chitra-uchcha]
OUTCOMES - SURYA self-reflexively ceremonial, brightly intelligent, charmingly creative, regal style of celebration, scholarly focus, radiantly demonstrative, politically speculating, splendidly romantic [Surya in bhava-5] rules
CAREER - SURYA Two Women 1934- luxury eyeframes Sophia Loren + [Surya-yuti-Budha-uchcha] Known for her remarkable drama performances, sL had an additional career in the business of fashion eyeglass frames. Benefitting from her expressive celebrity style and her careful attention to every detail of the manufacturing and marketing processes, sL spectacle frames [Surya spectacles] have for decades been featured in the popular women's optical market.
Tabloid Press [3] Surya-yuti-Budha] camera, photographs, newspaper-magazine, cinema, dramatic scripting, tabloid press, SL career was built not only upon her cinematic drama skills and camera-ready face [2], but also upon the decades of tabloid press photo-stories featuring her enduring affair with Ponti, her glamorous Hollywood co-stars, her spectacular home near Roma, and her charming family life. SL's passionate marriage story [Shukra-2, love stories] caused a public furor among the proletarian audience of the 1950's and 1960's. [Surya in bhava-3] suggesting that
professional dramatics would be focused into cinema and modeling [3] rather than live theatre [5]. Also that the more enduring activity would be commerce, even while cinema-drama continued into her last decades. FATHER Dad = Riccardo Scicolone, aconstruction worker. [Surya-Kanya] rules-4, building. According to SL's autobiography, sL met her father a total of three times. Dad was the father of Romilda's two daughters, sofia and her younger sister Maria. However, dad was married to another woman. Romilda, sophia, and Maria were his extramarital family. In 1930's Italy, divorce was severely stigmatized. Dad was present in the home, but socially invisible to his children.
Rahu-9 suggests exaggeration in paternal matters. / Only three times / may be a media-promotional story, [Surya-yuti-Budha] Surya ruling 12th-from-self is a distancer, but not an annihilator. Surya also rules 7th-from-Chandra, albeit [Surya-Kanya] does occupy the mysterious and often camouflaged 8th-from-Chandra. More likely, the parents had an ongoing relationship which may have been veiled from their two daughters, in order to prevent gossip. pitristhāna ruled by [Guru in bhava-4] who intakes drishti of nīcha-Kuja-1 would suggest that the parents had some deep emotional conflict -- since Guru is rogesha.
[Comfortable Caretaking Chandra] matrikaraka [mother] * garha-karaka [village] [busy-communicative bhratru-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [arranging-diplomatic Dhaniṣṭha-3] [navamsha [Chandra-Tula] intuitively sensitive adjusting arranging bargaining contracts alliances
OUTCOMES - CHANDRA sensitively ordering, protectively lawful, routinely governing, parentally regulating, rhythmically dutiful, customary commander, predictable hierarch, culturally respected, emotionally responsible, needs to hold elite positions [Chandra in classroom-10] rules
CAREER-CHANDRA
Two Women 1934- luxury eyeframes Sophia Loren cinema career followed by inspirationally successful eyewear business, continuing glamour photographs into her 80's
Demonized by new media [Chandra-Kumbha] [10] [arranging-diplomatic Dhaniṣṭha-3] Chandra rules the 6th-from-Chandra containing 3- new-reporting contains [nīcha-Kuja-yuti-Ketu] in mutual exchange with [Rahu-yuti-Shani] [9, ecclesiastical doctrine] SL was almost constantly hunted by tabloid magazine paparazzi, MOTHER Mom = Romilda Villani [1910–1991] An aspiring actress Many of SL's roles have a mother-daughter element, reflecting the influence of her mother and SL need {Chandra] to play out the extraordinary tensions of Rahu-Ketu in 6/12 from Soma. MARRIAGE partnership emotional equity support expectations [7th-from-Chandra-10] lifepartnership 1-of-1
COMPLICATIONS of MARRIAGe their early attempts to marry were plagued by conflict
Shukra-Singha = both lagnesha and rogesha Pūrvaphalgunī- 2 = navamsha Shukra-Kanya-nīcha ] During SL's Rahu-Shukra bhukti, when SL = 16 ++ Ponti = 38,
Due to the prominence of Chandra in classroom-10 ruling 3-news reporting,
FIRST ATTEMPT TO MARRY - fail Guru-Shani bhukti * [Rahu-yuti-Shani] ++ samchara Rahu-Ketu Tula-Mesha contact Guru -- but no contact to marriage axes Shani rules 12th-from-Chandra ++ 6th-from-Shukra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_marriage
SECOND ATTEMPT TO MARRY - success Guru-Chandra bhukti * Chandra rules Karkata navamsha ++ samchara Rahu-Ketu Vṛṣa-Vṛścika contact navamsha R-K. ++ janma Sade-Sati
7th-from-Chandra contains Shukra-Singha [4] later fruits As a lifepartner, ponti was dedicated to the provision of dwellings, vehicles, routines of life
[Competitive Champion Kuja] bhratru-karaka [brother] virya-karaka [virile] [balancing-bargaining yuvati-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] [contemplative-imagining vyaya-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [regulatory-hierarchical Aśleṣā-2] [navamsha Kuja-Makara-uchcha ] intuitively forward-pushing competitive corporate hierarchical champion [Aśleṣā-Mangala-yuti-Ketu-Pushya]
OUTCOMES - MANGALA promotionally communicative, engineer of scripted explanations, energetically instructional, administratively pushy, forcefully broadcasting, muscularly managing, driven to document, producer of media-messaging, maker of meetings, pro-actively publishing, aggressively announcing [Mangala in bhava-3] rules
CAREER - KUJA
Maternal Grandmother SL was sent to her grandparents' home for safety during war years. It was a sadly common story among Italian women, their children starving and their houses bombed. It may have been a survival decision to resort to prostitution during the war. Mangala drishti into 6 during Mangala Mahadasha meant that SL had a dangerous, insecure childhood. Raised in poverty during the extremes of the losing side of WW-2, sL would have felt the conflict, both personally, and through emotional awareness of the turmoil afflicting her parents and grandparents.
In time of distress, sL's grandmother ran a private lounge that was popular with American GI's. Yet the one thing SL could do, even as a child in awful circumstances, was to charm and entertain. Yogakaraka Kuja rules 5-10 and Kuja sends drishti into Chandra-Shani-Rahu-7
CARETAKERS Part of her drive to succeed in her own way on her own terms is likely accountable to the tensions and undependable behaviors of her caretakers [Old Pathways Karkata]. Constant physical tension due to Shani-Makara-Draco-7 in mutual drishti with Mangala-Karkata-1 Although personally exhausting [Ketu] the public fixation [Aśleṣa-Kuja] on her emotionally expressive, sensual even primitive physique was enduring due to Shani-drishti into-1. [Busy Bantering Budha] jamayah-karaka [sibling] sandesha-karaka [message] shisya-karaka [student] [uchcha] --- [svakshetra] Putra-sukha yoga [collecting-evaluating dhanesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [witty-creative vidya-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] ... [theatrical-displaying Chitra-1] [navamsha Budha-Simha] intuitively detailed logical description of drama, fashion, glory, demonstrations, games, politics, romance, poetry [Aryaman- Surya-yuti-Budha-Chitra-uchcha]
OUTCOMES - BUDHA conversationally entertaining, articulately political, collaboratively romantic, mentally creative, analytically speculative, cleverly dramatic, instructionally idealistic [Budha in bhava-5] rules
CAREER - BUDHA [Generous Growing Guru] dhava-karaka [husband] bahuta-karaka [variety] [mysterious-initiatory randhresha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [friendly-gainful vriddhi-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna] check Shukra + Shukra-drishti to source Guru 's expansively diplomatic, compromising adjustability ... [contractual-adjustable Chitra-3] [vargottamsha] [navamsha Guru-Tula]
OUTCOMES - GURU expansively complaining, abundantly argumentative, variety of accusations and disagreements, multiple unfair conditions, numerous diseases and injuries, optimistic ministries of service, many offerings of assistance, broad-scope of understanding of the miseries of human nature [Guru in bhava-6] rules
CAREER - BRIHASPATI [Sweetly Suave Shukra] svadu-karaka [sweet] kalatra-karaka [wifely companion] [dikbala] [energizing-identifying lagnesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [medicating-inimical rogesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] check Surya + Surya-drishti to source Shukra's glittering advocacy, dramatized bargains, self-central arrangements [delights in a showcase home] [creative performance in the kitchen] [Displays the beauty of homeland ancestry] ...... [analytical-strategic Pūrvaphalgunī-2] [navamsha Shukra-Kanya-nīcha ] intuitively harmonizing exploitive unbalanced unfair contracts
OUTCOMES - SHUKRA sensually domestic, appreciative of cultural foundations, harmoniously home-loving, aesthetic of environmental balance, real-estate finance, prefers luxury vehicles, musical-artistic mother-figure, likes a secure household [Shukra-4] rules
CAREER - SHUKRA [Shukra-Singha] = usually coppery skin + golden glowing appearance Ancestral palatial homes with gaudy furnishingsSL recounted that Carlo Ponti promised to buy her the most beautiful house in Italy. Their estate outside of Roma was photographed by the celebrity press, and SL declared her deep happiness there. [Revenues from the publication of the photographs were also a source of joy.] [Sober Structural Shani] duro-karaka [endurance] * jara-karaka [Jah [Jahre, years] --- [svakshetra] [Yogakaraka doctrinal-guiding dharmesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [Yogakaraka dutiful-exective karmesha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [class-concious orthodox catechesis] [believes in the conventional rule of law-and-order] [steadily maintains the orderly credenda] [old priesthood continues mandatory conformism] [lawfully governing patriarchs] [strict standards for bureaucratic regulation] [fear of punitive religious beliefs] [dharmesha socially approved ideology] [karmesha leadership proceeds from ideological convictions] [pragmatic patronage of universities and temples] [philosophical understanding limited by social norms] [prefers older respected religious teachings] [rigidly disciplined dogmatic responsible father] [father may impose orderly principled judgments upon the sangha] [father-figure may be a presbyter, governor, director, professor of law, elite hierarch] ... [calculating-strategic Dhaniṣṭha-2] [navamsha Shani-Kanya] intuitively structured orderly lawful ministries of service [ātmakāraka endurance, stamina, maturity, dignity, lawfulness, scarcity, delays, respect for elders, regulations, normalcy, class-consciousness] [Śrāvaṇa-Rahu-yuti-Shani-Shravista]
OUTCOMES - SHANI ideologically rigid, religiously regulatory, philosophically conventional, staunchly sermonizing, respectfully patronizing, doctrinally disciplined [Shani in Bhava-9] rules
CAREER - SHANI Extraordinary trouble with movie-magazine scandals [Risk-rewarding Rāhu] rajyalobha-karaka [ambition] picchala-karaka [slippery] [for Urisha indriya-lagna] [Rahu-9 casts passionately paradigmaticly believing drishti into 1-3-5] check Shani + Shani-drishti to source Rahu's apparently lawful, mirage of regulatory ordering [passion for conventional catechisms] [seeks prestigious high-ranked patronage] [ideology of socially approved opportunity] [potential for fraudulently or fabulously exaggerated public decorum, in matters of theological, theoretical, ideological, global-scope, philosophical, doctrinal, sacerdotal, higher priestly understandings] [maintains the pretension of the standard confession of beliefs] [craves privilege of preaching on adherence to social norms] [pretentiously ambitious father-figure may over-ride orthodox practice in patriarchal duty] ... [face-voice-finance Śrāvaṇa-2] [navamsha Rahu-Urisha-uchcha] intuitively over-reaching fascination with wealth, treasuries, luxuries, jewels [Śrāvaṇa-Rahu-yuti-Shani-Shravista]
OUTCOMES - RAHU [Collapsing unshackling Ketu] kavandha-karaka [headless] chidra-karaka [gaping] vasana-karaka [vac [vacuum] [for Urisha indriya-lagna] [disregards customary discourse conventions] [eccentric rhythms of administrative routines] [incoherent settlement planning] [empty patriotic announcements] [liberating abstract security discussions] [scattered defensive mentality] [passively fixated on ambitious regulatory Rahu-Makara-Draco-9 indoctrinators, father-figures, preachers, public spiritual guides] ... [transformative-regenerating Pushya-4] [navamsha Ketu-Vṛścika-uchcha] [Aśleṣā-Mangala-yuti-Ketu-Pushya]
OUTCOMES - KETU Two notable miscarriages preceding birth of two healthy sons During [Rahu Mahadasha] [age 9.6 until age 27.6], sL began fashion-modeling rather than attending high school.
Ketu themes of divorce, betrayal, and disregard for bourgeoise morality fueled her publicity engine. At a time of social change, the working class, tabloid-reading public was gripped by SL's relatable story of entrapment by outdated rules [nīcha-Mangala-yuti-Ketu] |
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