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Hillary Rodham Clinton 2016 (HRC age 69)

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Hillary Rodham Clinton 2016

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2009-2013 * USA Secretary of State

2008 + 2016 Democratic Party POTUS-candidate

2000-2008 * USA Senator from New York

1992-2000 * POTUS-42 partner

1973-1992 * Children's Defense Fund

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Hillary Rodham Clinton

Earth-birth Sunday-26-Oct-1947

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USA Sen-NY = 2001-2008 ++ USA Secy State = 2009-2013 * Hillary Rodham Clinton 1947-

birth information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

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born on 12. Dwadashi of Sukla Paksha

Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativities

Swatika

Chotthi * Vayu * Nishtya

BPL commentary

For Swatika births of a feminine valence, the disposition of mesmerizing, hypnotic, shadowy, exciting, passionate, ambitious, opportunistic, privilege-seeking Professor Rahu may considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the paradigm of Nishthya, exotics, ethnic mixers, opportunists, fascinators, mesmerizers, privilege-seekers, impostors, rogues, agents of passion and desire, self-proclaimers, self-promoters, charlatans, masters of smoke and oils, and entrancingly ambitious persons may be especially influential.

Guided by the instructing intelligences of Arcturus. Their purpose is to broker agreements and balance the interests of multiple ambitious stakeholders.

Social justice, personal power

Rahu-ruled Swatika ladies tend to be fascinating figures. By skillfully mixing and trading with different folks, Swatika ladies build exotic new exchange relationships. They are often found in policy organizations and government agencies, where their social equity work is distinctively multi-cultural. Their roles include trader, exchanger, negotiator, deal-maker, broker, marriage-matcher, alliance-designer, and other balancing activities that engage two mismatched sides within one functional agreement.

Swatika represents Rahu's desire to amplify Zukra's quest for harmonious agreements. Rahu challenges cultural boundaries. The mix-master may skillfully combine unusual agents and mismatched agendas in order to obtain a rebalanced status. Similar to Shataviskaka, the Swatika-born are mixed-system orchestrators who may take direction from Otherworldly sources. The character of Rahu is determinative.

Due to their Rahu-gifted ability to think outside the box, Swatika-born may realize previously unthinkable opportunities for diplomacy and fair exchange. Their success is noted in negotiation, trade-deals, and bargaining in commodities, ideas, or services.

In politics, Nishthya ladies may be associated with social, ideological, financial, or physical integration of previously hostile or excluded participants. Vayu-born graciously mix people and environments that were once segregated, gracefully pairing various ethnicities, religions, nations, or individuals of differing practice.

Their primary pursuit of a social justice agenda is not entirely idealistic. It is ultimately motivated by their desire to obtain privilege by facilitating partnerships to enhance opportunities for trade and exchange.

Themes of opportunity, fascination with appearances, and acquisition of privilege may contextualize Swatika's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Swatika-Chandra

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 97

"This woman has a truthful honest straightforward character.

She can be identified by her speech and by her manner of walking.

  • Her gait and speech are rather heavy and ponderous ,

  • at least deliberate and purposeful.

She has a very friendly disposition

  • and is popular with her own sex.

She will marry into a large family

  • and she will be very devoted to her husband."

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Hillary Clinton * USA Senator from New York *2000 until 2008

Biographical Events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar

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Hillary CLinton in 1992 (age 45)

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HRC in 2012

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Hillary Rodham Clinton with her mother Dorothy Rodham (d. 2011) ++ daughter Chelsea Clinton Clinton , at Chelsea's wedding in 2010

Guru Mahadasha * age birth until age 5.5

Sun-26-Oct-1947 Earth-birth * Guru-Surya bhukti * Surya-1 politics

Shani Mahadasha * age 5.5 until age 24.5

01-Jun-1969 (HRC age 21) earned B.A. Wellesley College + delivered nationally noticed commencement speech * Shani-Rahu bhukti

Budha Mahadasha * age 24.5 until age 41.5

Jun-1973 (HRC age 26) earned J.D. from Yale Law School * Budha-Budha swabhukti * Budha diploma

11-Oct-1975 (HRC age 28) exchange the vows of Marriage with POTUS-42 My Life 1946- Bill Clinton * Budha-Zukra bhukti * samchara Rahu-Ketu via Vrischika-Urisha contact natal R-K

Jan-1979 (HRC age 32) becomes First Lady of Arkansas, 1979 until 1992 (with breaks) * Budha-Chandra bhukti * Chandra karmesha * Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10

02-Feb-1980 (HRC age 33) celebrated the birth of child-1 Chelsea Clinton * Budha-Chandra bhukti * Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10 putrapathi++ Shani Ashtamsha

Ketu Mahadasha * age 41.5 until age 48.5

03-Nov-1992 (HRC age 45) Bill Clinton wins POTUS-42 * Ketu-Rahu bhukti

Mar-1993 until Jun-1995 Janma Sade-Sati Kumbha-5

Feb-1993 begin unpaid social-networking duties of USA First Lady which overrides her own political work. * Ketu--Guru bhukti * Guru rogesha servitude * Ketu-yuti-Guru ambivalence

07-Apr-1993 (HRC age 46) grieved the decease of father Hugh Rodham * Ketu-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 7th-from-9th ++ Sade-Sati

Zukra Mahadasha * age 48.5 until age 68.5

19-Dec-1998 (HRC age 51) Bill Clinton sex scandal perjury impeachment hearings * Zukra-Zukra swabhukti * Zukra rules uttama-Rahu-8 * discovery

Nov-2000 (HRC age 53) * elected USA Senator from NY * Zukra-Chandra bhukti * Chandra karmesha

summer-2008 (HRC age 61) loses contest for Democratic POTUS nomination * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Ketu-yuti-Guru * Guru rogesha loss of alliances

Jan-2009 (HRC age 62) begin assignment as USA Sec-State, appointed by POTUS-44 Audacity of Hope 1961- Barack H. Obama * Zukra-Shani bhukti * Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10 * effect of karmesha

01-Nov-2011 (HRC age 64) grieved the decease of mother Dorothy Rodham * Zukra-Shani bhukti * Shani rules 12th-from-Chandra ++ Shani Ashtamsha

Dec-2012 (HRC age 65) hospitalized for blood clot * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 12-hospitalization, rest-and-retreat

26-Sep-2014 (HRC age 67) birth of first grandchild Charlotte * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 9 grandchildren

Surya Mahadasha * age 68.5 until age 74.5

Apr-2016 (HRC age 69) initiated political campaign to earn party nomination for POTUS-45 candidacy (until August 2016) * Surya-Chandra bhukti * Chandra karmesha * politics Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10

08-Nov-2016 (HRC age 69) * although HRC won the popular vote, she lost the Electoral College vote to rival POTUS-45 Play to Win Donald J. Trump * Zukra-Mangala bhukti * nichha-Kuja * Kuja-yuti-Shani * Shani rules 12th-from-5th lost election

Chandra Mahadasha * age 74.5 until age 84.5

Mangala Mahadasha * age 84.5 until age 91.5
Distinctive features of the nativity

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Hillary Rodham Clinton 2011

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Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother "Hughie" Rodham

Surya * pitri-karaka (father) * jyoti-karaka (light)

  • Surya-Vanika * nichha * Hiranya-garbha * golden fetus * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the bargaining deal-making rashi of Zukra * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the bargaining deal-making rashi of Zukra
  • Surya in bhava-1 * center of identity * bright embodiment * intelligence for competition * focus on appearance * genius for innovative self-expression * athletic entitlements * eye on personality * sparkling center of body-based vitality * father may be an icon-competitor-inventor
  • Surya-yuti-Budha * confidently conversational * bright messenger * entitled to discuss * creatively intelligent sibling-cohort * discursive father-figure * gestures conduct the spiritual rays of the Sun * radiantly descriptive * articulate in drama * skillful game-player * self-confident announcements * talks about ideals * narrative of power-politics * recites love poems * describes divine romance
  • Surya-yuti-Zukra * confidently harmonious * brightly creative bargainer * uniquely intelligent feminine-figures * entitled to pleasures * aesthetic expressions align with the spiritual rays of the Sun * financial politics * graciously creative * dramatic promises * radiantly diplomatic * self-reflexively attractive * father may be artist-broker-arranger

CAREER - SURYA

Surya in bhava-1 occupies the philosophical, doctrinal 9th-from-ChandraClintonHill_fatherRodhamHugh.jpg

HRC has served in a wide variety of governance roles including public-interest lawyer, child-advocate, US-Senator from NY and US-Secretary of State

FATHER

Chandra * matrikaraka (mother) * garha-karaka (village)

Atmakaraka karmesha

  • Chandra-Kumbha * comforted by networks * sensitive to connectivity * needs community
  • Chandra in Purvabhadra-pada * soothed by expansive understanding * protectors of philosophical doctrine * preaches a broad perspective on human needs
  • Chandra in classroom-5 * comfortable with politics * familiar with speculation * intelligent confident mother * soothed by playing games * charmed by children * needs applause * sensitive to center-stage roles * nourished by self-expression * feels entitled * attuned to romantic emotion * settled into the rhythm of artistic performance * routinely seeks amusement * calmed by admiration * undulating celebrity
  • Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10

10 CAREER

  • Guru rules 3 + 6 ++ Guru occupies 10th-from-Chandra career
  • Nichha-Mangala-yuti-Shani occupies bhava-10.
  • Kuja-10 rules 10th-from-10th
  • Kuja rules 10th-from-Chandra.= vrischika bhava-2

atmakaraka Kumbha Chandra -5 * parivartamsha * Shani-Karkata-10 = politics (5) and leadership (10)

In a similar situation to POTUS-pair-38 Addiction Recovery 1918-2011 Betty Ford, Shani occupies 6th-from-Chandra YET Shani-Karkata-10 also enjoys parivartamsha yoga with Chandra-Kumbha-5

It is a highly complex situation which expresses on the national dramatic stage since Chandra-5 is the ruler of governance-roles-10.

  • Chandra-5 rules Arudha Lagna bhava-10 Karkata containing Shani-Mangala
  • Chandra-Purvabhadra-3 in bhava-5
  • during the 1970s-80s, HRC's writings provided a legal framework for interpreting children's rights (5).
  • Considered theoretically groundbreaking in the field of legal scholarship, they helped jurists to distinguish functional boundaries in the gray area between parental authority and the entitlements of the state.
  • Guru-ruled Chandra in Purvabhadra- = intuitive affinity for social theory.
  • atmakaraka Chandra-Kumbha-5 = provides political, ideological, philosophical, celebrity, and gaming (elections) empowerments

MOTHER

Mom =

MARRIAGE partnership support expectations

7th-from-Chandra-5

  • bhava-11 community activism, earnings, social networking, economics, fundraising

  • POTUS-42 My Life 1946- Bill Clinton

Kuja * bhratru-karaka (brother) * virya-karaka (virile)

  • Mangala-Karkata * nichha * active pursuit of security * proactive nourishment * drive toward rooting + settling * vigorous defensive movement * police protector * fence-builder * push toward land ownership * promotes construction of settlements * innovative farming + fishing * energetically ethnic * champion of local cultures
  • Mangala in bhava-10 * dig-bala * drive toward high position * pursuit of social authority * fights for rank * competes for top status * invasive regulation * hierarchical dynamics * dominating executive roles * energized governing conquests * champion of leadership elites
  • Kuja-yuti-Shani * repressed movements * constant tension between sexual energy vs social rules * dynamic structuring * competitive force must cooperate with disciplined hierarchies * potential for punitive reactions to change * required containment of natural forces * military officer * musculo-skeletal challenges.

CAREER - MANGALA

Mangala bhava-10 * digbala * nichha

Professional ascendance = a long, slow process. The path to the top of the governance hierarchy = fraught with troublesome brothers, sexual twists-and-turns, and never free from acts of extortion (Kuja-Azlesa).

  • Nevertheless, executive success is forecast AFTER MANY SETBACKS due to Yogakaraka Shani's Throne-Yoga empowerment.

nichha-Mangala-yuti-Shani rules Vrizchika 10th-from-Chandra

10th-from-Chandra contains Guru-yuti-Ketu.

  • Significant obstacle-course toward fulfillment of the Throne Yoga.
  • Primary complexity arises from the nichha-Mangala ruler of 7 = contracts alliances trusts.
  • Partners + brothers (Kuja) throughout life are themselves emotionally driven (Kuja) toward extortionist, twisting, squeezing, and sexually controlling behaviors.

Partners + brothers (Kuja) Produce emotionally problematic situations due to Kuja in 6th-from-Chandra

  • Emotional betrayal 6th-from-Chandra creates toxicity along the path toward fulfillment of Shani's Throne Yoga.
  • Yet, as with all things Shani, success in obtaining the highest governance authority may be achieved with the passage of time.

Writing about topics of Governance and Public Duty

Kuja rules 3rd-from-Chandra.

Motivating Mangala rules emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra.

Kuja is ruled by Chandra

Mangala occupies public-governance-10

  • HRC authored It Takes a Village ++ numerous legal philosophical articles on topics of family law Karkata)
  • in addition HRC authored legislation, reports, speeches, amicus briefs, and voluminous policy commentary = Kuja-yuti-Shani -10

Budha * jamayah-karaka (sibling) * sandeza-karaka (message) * zisya-karaka (student)

  • Budha-Thula * articulation of contracts * equable discussions * balanced designs * commercial arrangements * explains procedure for fair agreements * descriptive bargaining * skillful matching * accommodating conversations * messages about negotiation * programming for trade exchanges * manufactures harmonious patterns *  hands-arms-shoulders send equalizing gestures
  • Budha in bhava-1 * digbala * narrative of body * bifurcated self-image * discusses physical appearance * describer of embodiment * explainer of tangible self * delivers instructions for self-characterization * articulation of communicative movement * animated gestures * talks about personality * details the two-sided identity. .
  • Budha-yuti-Surya * amusing explanations * entertaining chatter * central roles in communication * brightly clear descriptions * dramatic enunciation * confidently delivers instruction * articulation of radiant certainty * political messenger * talkative father-figures
  • Budha-yuti-Zukra * explainer of balanced arrangements * diplomatic conversations * parity-seeking discussions * manual adjustments * enjoys words * sweet descriptions * delivers instruction about relationships * articulator of equity in agreements * message of fairly bargained contracts * skilled in songwriting * talkative sister-cousin-cohort * detailed lyricist * attracts chatty partners

Budha occupies philosophical, doctrinal 9th-from-Chandra

Vyayapa Budha = places where one will travel (12th from lagnesha and its ruler) = Kanya-12* remarkable amount of foreign traveling

Guru * dhava-karaka (husband) * bahuta-karaka (variety)

  • Guru-Vrizchika * much mystery * many sudden discoveries * optimistic about emergencies * believes in healing * many masks * hidden doctrine * permission to reveal * transformative guidance * expands the scope of secret undertakings * multiple initiations
  • Guru in bhava-2 * much hoard * many songs * many stories * extensive history * generous reserves * several genetic lines * many accumulated goods * numerous languages * expansive eyes * many voices * many valuations * extensive accounts * grows the family lineage * optimistic heritage * believes in historic conservation * patron of speech-and-song * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be a keeper-collector-preserver
  • Guru-yuti-Ketu upeksha-karaka * multiple options for severance * broad permission to abandon unsustainable connections * diverse wanderings * many occasions of surrender * philosophy of impermanence * large-size vacuums * many holy pilgrimages

Guru-yuti-Ketu occupies the professional 10th-from-Chandra

Husband

Guru in Vrizchika * Guru-yuti-Ketu = permissive apathy

Permissive (Guru) Apathy (Ketu) toward the husband's actions

Guru-yuti-Ketu-2 occupies the familiar-face, publically recognized 10th-from-Chandra

  • Guru in bhava-2 * Ketu in Bhava-2
  • Guru-yuti-Ketu * multiple options for severance * broad permission to abandon unsustainable connections * diverse wanderings * many occasions of surrender * philosophy of impermanence * large-size vacuums * many holy pilgrimages

  • dhava-karaka Guru represents the husband-role in a wifely chart. Special challenges for Thula nativity where Guru rules 3-6. Husband POTUS-42 My Life 1946- Bill Clinton has been noted in the public record as having been at times rather difficult. Significant compensations of various angles, including but not limited to the sincere friendship indicated by 7th-from-Chandra-5 = 11 and vriddhipathi-11 Surya located in core-personality-1. As a partnership, they are "in it to win it" (Surya)

Zukra * svadu-karaka (sweet) * kalatra-karaka (wife)

Malavaya Yoga

lagnesha for Thula radical lagna

  • Zukra-Vanika * swakshetra * appreciation of negotiation * taste for balanced color schemes * attracted to beautiful designs * enjoys the company of designers * prefers adjustable partners * pleased by brokerage * equable alliances * artfully arranges agreements * bargains sweetly * harmonious mediation * match-making for equity * aesthetic of the fair-trade deal
  • Zukra-1 * seeks pleasure via handsome embodiment * enjoys the company of women * graciously attractive appearance * active style of balancing * pursues adjustable arrangements * appreciation of muscular vitality * pleasing designs to adorn the head * aesthetic of new life * physical exercise to balance the brain * identified with brokerage * seeks the sweet midpoint of dynamic negotiations * energetic pursuit of equity * identified with acts of diplomacy * bargains vigorously for fair exchange
  • Zukra-yuti-Surya * balanced roles in drama * appreciation for political display * pleasantly charming * self-focused diplomacy * radiant bright beauty * self-reflexive bargaining * sweet entitlements * negotiating father-figure * self-directed arrangements * focus on trade exchange * solipsistic romance * idealistic contracts * enjoys the game of deal-making * prefers self-confident partners
  • Zukra-yuti-Budha * sweetened messages * gracious explanations * talented in singing-songwriting * articulate negotiations * advocates for reasoning process * talkative feminine-figures * pleasant conversations * bargaining for business * sibling-cohort communicative harmony * enjoys the company of students * detailed contracts * prefers logical arrangements

Zukra in bhava-1 Diplomacy * mulatrikona 0-10 deg

Shani * duro-karaka (endurance) * jara-karaka (years)

Yogakaraka Shani rules 4-foundations, schooling +++ 5-intelligence +creativity + children

Shani-10-Karkata = Throne Yoga.

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  • Shani-Karkata * heavy old routines * habitual conformity * must accept social responsibility for emotional stability * old defensive structures * structural compression upon stomach * strict security systems * proletarian cultural roots * must maintain orderly sustainable settlements * rigid resistance to change of the folkways * regulates farming-fishing habits * must care for elders * aging local infrastructure * cramped shipping ports * ancient roadways * agricultural drought * dark dwellings * often stuck in a rut * protective policing routines * scarce domestic resources
  • Shani in Bhava-10 (beneficial placement) * steady time-structured leadership responsibilities * must govern the old order * maintains dignified reputation * cautious, conventional leadership style * burdensome social-authority roles * chronic weighty executive duties * heavy decision-making portfolio * sustains the conventional hierarchies * oppressed by lack of freedom to choose social policies * resistance to new rules * intolerance toward unconventional leaders * leadership fatigue * supports socially-approved, rigidly dutiful lawgiver-roles * elders maintain high ranking duties
  • Shani-yuti-Mangala * social resistance to competitive action * pragmatic pursuits * cautious innovation * limited pace of progress * delayed (but not denied) championship * physical discipline * constraints on instinctive movement * conventionally regulated sports * tension from contradictory push-pull impulses.
  • Chandra-5 parivartamsha Shani-10

CAREER - SHANI

Shani-Karkata * Shani-10 = Throne Yoga

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka (ambition) * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Urisha * uttama * shimmering illusion of storage * craving for preserved collections * unorthodox banking * over-reaching acquisitions * preposterous accumulations * mesmerizing treasure-hoards * fabulous inventories * exotic food stores * amazing ship-holds * fascinating warehouses * mask of historic conservatism * intriguing acts of barreling * exaggerated cooperage * extravagant containment * tantalizing libraries * marvelous hoards of valuables * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of accrued wealth * entrancing lineage knowledge * thrilling speech-song * excitement of pricing * seeks privilege via value-keeper roles
  • Rahu in bhava-8 * passion for mystery * in swabhava of Competitive Kuja, the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous veiling * surreptitious recycling * exciting rebirth * fascinating self-reinvention * surgical rejuvenation * outsider who cleverly insinuates into revelatory roles * desires an important role in trauma-healing * fabulous transformations * reveals occult truths * shocking discovery of confidential information * mixed-culture revolutionary * finds opportunity in catastrophe * magical masquerade * poses as a secretary (secret-keeper) of a powerful entity * risk-rewarding in-laws * irregular inheritance * unusual alimonies * boundary-breeching disclosure * camouflage of undisclosed assets * stimulated by dangerous emergencies * may appear as a tantric initiator * alluring identity changes * pursues social mobility via hidden empowerments

Empowered Rahu-8 = Rahu-Vrizabha uttama rsides in the defensive, culturally-rooted, seasonal-calendar, routinized, patriotic, ethno-nationalistic, comfort-seeking, home-loving, foundational, property-owning 4th-from-Chandra casts ambitious, patriotic (4) drishti into 12-2-4.

  • Indicates a treasury-seeking, ambitious maternal grandmother.

Rahu-uttama-8 suggests an ambitious empowerment to attain social mobility via knowledge of financial and sexual secrets.

Rahu usually bends-or-breaks some customary taboos. Zukra-ruled Rahu = especially bending gender taboo.HRC was the first female to hold many of the governance positions that she has secured.

Ketu * * kavandha-karaka (headless) * chidra-karaka (gaping) * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Vrizchika * uttama * detached Witness to hidden empowerments * weird discoveries * empty secrets * eccentric identity changes * dissolute penetrations * fearless toward catastrophic change * disregards terror * ignores restriction on initiations * uncertain rebirth * releases a red-black cloud of exploratory initiatives into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-2 * abandons the preserved values * eccentric voice * odd face * disperses family affluence * disregards conventional limits on sound-music-language * disinterested in genetic lineage * surrenders the hoard * odd food * peculiar precious goods * abdicates banker-conserver-collector roles * dissolves libraries * devalues treasuries * unless other graha in 2, may prefer to live free from historic traditions
  • Ketu-yuti-Guru * misunderstandings * unsustainable convictions * abandons empty theories * believes in non-existence * vacuous catechism * wandering teachers * apostasy * wisdom of surrender * incomplete comprehension * doctrines of impermanence * Other-Worldly viewpoint * walks away in disbelief * liberating philosophy * for wifely nativities, Ketu may release the dhavakaraka husband-figure. .

Guru-yuti-Ketu Vrischika occupies the career-defining 10th-from-Chandra..

Although there were multiple attempts to gain elite leadership empowerment (Vrischika) there was ultimately not enough traction, due to Ketu with Guru (husband).

Traceable to a deep inner apathy ++ perhaps a belief (Brihaspati beliefs) that her time had not Yet, arrived.

Ketu in Bhava-2 * occupies 10th-from-Chandra

Ketu Mahadasha * age 41.5 until age 48.5

Jan-1993 to Jan-2001 * managed the honorary but demanding duty portfolio of First Lady. Many perceived this role to be far below her political-intellectual abilities. Many others perceived her apparent apathy, specifically toward the social-entertaining component of the job. * Ketu--Chandra bhukti * Chandra-6 parivartamsha Shani-11

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