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American spiritual teacher

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author of Be Here Now (1971)

Baba Ram Dass

a.k.a. Professor Richard Alpert

Earth-birth Monday-06-Apr-1931

"The spiritual journey is individual, highly personal.

It can’t be organized or regulated.

It isn’t true that everybody should follow one path.

Listen to your own truth."

~~ Baba Ram Dass



Spiritual messenger + inspirational author * experiential teacher * 1931-2019 * Ram Dass = Richard Alpert

birth data from: * tentatively rectified by BP Lama Jyotishavidya

charts + graphs + tables = generated by Shri Jyoti-Star * adapted by BP Lama

Rising Nakshatra

Masculine Nativities


Asresas *  Uraga * Azreshasha * Hydra * Aayilyam * Bhujamaghabha

BPL commentary

For Azlesa births of a masculine valence, the condition of conversational, discursive, explanatory, instructional, argumentative, commercializing, evangelical Kumara may considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the Budha-ruled paradigm of Uraga, siblings, cousins, schoolmates, bandmates, team-mates, entourage, ensemble, neighbors, managers, cohort, coterie, collaborative group, publishers, messengers, merchants, commercial agents, reporters, writers, scripts, plans, schedules, instructions, radio-television-internet, news-media, conferences, committees, discussions, travel itineraries, and texts may be especially influential.

Instructional guidance provided by emissaries from the civilizations of Hydra. Their purpose is to hold securely, twist, and control.

Call to Roots

Budha-ruled Asresas are typically storytellers. They are protective, parentally concerned, emotionally responsive communicators.

Intensely patriotic and often xenophobic, Naga-born harken to the old ways, the familiar rhythms, the folk stories which bind an ethno-cultural people to their roots. Azresa have a particular genius for evoking ancestral guilt, ethnic narratives, and ancient resentments.

Azresa have a particular genius for evoking ethnic narratives and ancient resentments.

Emotionally engaged and gesturing (Budha) in their messaging style, Hydra-born are often accomplished writers in literary genre ranging from political speech-scripters to parenting advice to folktale raconteurs. They specialize in tropes of root-culture, customs and habits, protection of the genetic stock, stabilization of the place of settlement, and defense of a way of life.

Bhujamaghabha speak the stories of a people in their land. It is the tale of a beginning in the watery mists, travel by ship, the struggle to farm and build, the cry for protection of a parental god, and finally the rooted possession of their place. They are natural environmentalists who prefer conversations about parenthood, ritual worship and holidays, food and farms, schools, roads and housing, with an emphasis on ensuring continuity of culture. Depending upon the condition of parental Chandra, Azlesa fathers may bind their children closely.

In leadership roles, the Naga-born may communicate in a swaying, hypnotic jargon, talking in the familiar folk style, appealing to the base layers of the society, recalling an ancient past. Their sentimental audience is rapt with feeling. Their rhetoric is soothing, repetitive, simple, and homey, like a parental lullaby, soothing the baby's cries.

Once lulled, the Naga's quarry may be bound and captured, lashed to the safe place. It is a bondage ritual, repeated to ensure that nourishment can continue and ethnic customs can repeat in an unbroken, rhythmic flow.

Asresas-born may be found in socially powerful messaging roles. They come to prominence when a tribe is weakened at the root and feeling vulnerable. An ancient racial narrative is invoked. This storyline may beseech a people to strap themselves to the land and waters which give sustenance. Its clarion call rallies the fyrd, the farmers' army, the simple folk's defense of their habits, their sustenance. To this place they are bound by hunger, by vulnerability, by a need for protection.

Themes of tight bindings, holding to roots, emotional restraint, and defense of ancient folkways may contextualize Naga's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Azlesa-Naga.

QUOTATION from: Shil-Ponde.(1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.

"Outstanding characteristic of these people

  • is their rather unpleasant and unsociable disposition.

They are awkward and gauche in their manners

  • and are not quick to profit by their mistakes

  • because of their inability to adapt themselves to their surroundings

  • and their apparent reluctance to be gracious or kind to others.

This attitude militates against success in life

  • and is a barrier to progress.

These people should live less introspectively

  • and learn to appreciate the good in other people.

They should cultivate the habit of doing things for others."


Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) during the 1970s


Mr. Ponde often repeats his particular aversion to Azlesa nativities. Yet whether male or female, Azlesa "the leash" produces many of the world's great writers, poets, and lyricists.

As well, Azlesa often show mastery of Budha-type mental manipulation skills including verbal acuity in public speaking, literary publishing, business administration, and clever handcraft. When twisted under a spell of emotional (Chandra) anxiety, this handiness could become Azlesa's notorious squeezing, choking, strangling, or extortion -- but rarely.

Azresa are typically mentalized, communicative, Budha-ruled creatures who are tightly bonded to their information, They thrive as choreographers, sequencers, plot-writers, empathetic characterizers, photographers, fine-arts painters, news reporters, radio-television-internet programmers, and hands-on managers. Witty and shrewd, Hydra-born may have a wicked sense of humor.

Azlesa typically worries about security. They are prone to fret about school, home, parents, property ownership, fencing, shipping, roadways, policing, the environment, and all the Karkata World. Naga natives often cling like a barnacle to their home, or to their workplace, in ways that may seem smothering.

Yet, this grasping, cloying feature of their mentality does not naturally parlay into unkindness or uncleanness ... only a rather grumpy intolerance for people and things irrelevant to their task.

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar


Hugging Saint 1953- Ammachi of Kerala delivers some Shakti to get RD up and running again during RD's recovery from 1997 debilitating stroke

ram_dass1.jpgShani Mahadasha * age birth until age 2.8

06-Apr-1931 Earth-birth in Newton, Massachusetts, USA * Shani-Guru bhukti * Guru dharmesha

Budha Mahadasha * age 2.8 until age 19.8

Ketu Mahadasha * age 19.8 until age 26.8

1952 (RD age 22) earned BA diploma from Tufts University College * Ketu-Rahu bhukti

Zukra Mahadasha * age 26.8 until age 46.8

1958 (RD age 27) earned Ph.D. in Psychology from Stanford University. Dissertation topic = achievement anxiety * Zukra-Zukra swabhukti * Zukra rules 4-diploma

1960 (RD age 29) appointed psychology assistant professor, Harvard University * Zukra-Surya swabhukti * Surya in bhava-9 university

1960 began experimenting with psilocybin (hallucinogenic mushrooms with academic friends * Zukra-Surya bhukti * Surya-yuti-Rahu

1963 dismissed from Harvard University faculty for unauthorized drug use + giving drugs to undergraduates * Zukra-Rahu bhukti

1967 grieved the decease of mother * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 2nd-from-Chandra

1967 Life-defining trip to Uttarakhand, India. Meets guru Neem Karoli Baba. Adopts Seva lifestyle along with new name Ram Dass. Returns to USA as itinerant spiritual service teacher. * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 12-distant lands

1971 publication of Be Here Now, the spiritual classic which swept the youthful Anglosphere with Eastern mystical and Selfless Service inspiration * Zukra-Shani bhukti * Shani-6 rules 8-transformative initiations

1973 grieved the decease of guru-figure NeemKaroliBaba MahaRaji * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 7th-from-9th = decease of guru-figure

1974 founding of world service order = Hanuman Foundation * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 12-charitable orders, containing Guru-12

Surya Mahadasha * age 46.8 until age 52.8

1976 Grist for the Mill celebrated publication * Surya-Surya swabhukti * Surya in bhava-9 inspirational teaching

Chandra Mahadasha * age 52.8 until age 62.8

Dec-1984 until Dec-1987 Janma Sade-Sati Vrischika

Mangala Mahadasha * age 62.8 until age 69.8

1994 came out as a gay man via a magazine article in the gay men's press. A long-term union with a male partner framed RD's 6th decade. * Mangala-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 6-social marginalization

1996 launched Here and Now with Ram Dass talk radio program * Mangala-Budha bhukti * Budha -radio

Ram-Dass-teaches-via-inter.jpg19-Feb-1997 (RD age 66) massive near-fatal stroke * right half of body paralyzed + much speech processing is lost via expressive aphasia. Subsequent severe intestinal infection, heavy medical expenses, continuing illness * Mangala-Ketu bhukti

Rahu Mahadasha * age 69.8 until age 87.8 ( Jan-2001 until Jan-2019)

2003 seven years after the debilitating stroke, causing pain and poverty, a former student Wayne Dyer alerts RD's community that RD is "still there" and needs support. An outpouring of funds was generated from a deeply grateful body of thousands of his former students * Rahu-Guru bhukti * Guru-12 rules 2nd-from-2nd = 3 lineage funding * 3 contains anonymous

2013 (RD age 82) publication of memoire Polishing the Mirror * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 11-community, material achievements

2014 (RD age 83)publication Conversations with Ram Dass * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 11-community, material achievements

Guru Mahadasha * age 87.8 until decease age 88

22-Dec-2019 (RD age 88) dematerialization * Guru-Shani bhukti * Shani maraka rules 7

Distinctive Features of the Nativity


Psychology professor Richard Alpert standing with his friend (frenemy) and fellow psychedelic researcher Professor Timothy Leary in 1962.

Surya * pitrikaraka * Jyotikaraka

  • Surya-Meena * Bhaskara * the illuminator * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the expansively visionary rashi of Brihaspati
  • Surya in bhava-9 * karako bhavo nashto * icon of sacred teachings * intelligent patronage * geo-politics * bright preaching * focus on beliefs * philosophical entitlements * self-righteous dad * sanctimonious pontificator * eye on humanistic worldview * confident ideologue * sparkling center of global doctrine * father may be a politician-philosopher-preacher-professor
  • Surya-yuti-Rahu * confidently opportunistic * bright mesmerizer * passion for creative culture-mixing * boundary-breeching entitlements * craves important center-stage roles * ambitious father-figure * adventurously aligned with the spiritual rays of the Sun * radiantly risk-rewarding


Dad = amplified, Surya-yuti-Rahu, highly affluent, distinguished figure in financial, business, and charitable endeavors of northeastern USA elite cultures.

Among other high-profile philanthropies, Dad was a principal founder of Brandeis University * Surya-yuti-Rahu bhava-9 Meena charity, universities. Surya in bhava-9 rules 2-collected assets, treasuries.

Dad = corporate director and community leader


  • "His father, George Alpert, was a lawyer in Boston, president of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, one of the founders of Brandeis University and the Albert Einstein College of Medicine."

CAREER * Values Mixmaster

Surya in bhava-9 dharma teacher-preacher rules career 10th-from-Chandra

Surya-9 occupies the creative, individualistic, radiantly confident 5th-from-Chandra

Surya-Meena-9 theoretical, humanistic and philosophical teaching

Doctrinal, global, cultural-mixmaster Surya-yuti-Rahu rules 2-speech, values, lineage traditions, historical knowledge. . Most recognized as a preacher on mixed sacred traditions. Ram Dass repackaged and represented historic Hindu lineage knowledge for reinterpretation by the globally oriented Euro-American youth culture of the 1960's and forward.

outreach ministry (9) via voice recordings (2). RD's taped radio programs and comedy talks served as primary vehicles for distribution of the doctrine

Chandra * matrikaraka (mother) * garha-karaka (village)

lagnesha for Karkata radical lagna

  • Chandra-Vrizchika * nichha * comforted by mystery * sensitive to trauma-healing * needs discovery
  • Chandra in Anuradha-Maitra * comforted by resistance to danger * protects against preventable damage * soothed by emergency regulations
  • Chandra in classroom-5 * comfortable with politics * familiar with speculation * intelligent confident mother * soothed by playing games * charmed by children * needs applause * sensitive to center-stage roles * nourished by self-expression * feels entitled * attuned to romantic emotion * settled into the rhythm of artistic performance * routinely seeks amusement * calmed by admiration * undulating celebrity
  • Vrischika-Chandra-5 parivartamsha Karkata-Kuja-1


Mom was a vigorously active member of her immediate ethnic social environment. Vrischika-Chandra-5 parivartamsha Karkata-Kuja-1

5/9 angle between Surya and Chandra would suggest that, overall, the parents were well-suited to each other emotionally and intellectually


Vrischika-Chandra-5 parivartamsha Karkata-Kuja-1


  • = bhava-11 community, social network, friendships

RD declared a vow of eternal loyalty to a spiritually beloved guru in a distant land, and did not marry. Numerous un-avowed private relationships remained undisclosed (8) to the public Zukra-8. Ruler of 7th-from-Chandra = bhava-11 community with its ruler in 8 suggests that the precise identity of the significant others remains camouflaged.

Ram Dass entered a committed partnership

Chandra = Comfort Zone

Chandra 5 stage performer, comedian of the dharma

Kuja * bhratru-karaka (brother) * virya-karaka (virile)

Yogakaraka nichha-Mangala-Karkata-1 rules

  • 5-intelligence, creativity, celebrity, children, gambling, financial speculation, center-of-attention roles
  • 10 social visibility, respect, reputation, elite positions, iconic stature, leadership, public-authority-roles


  • Mangala-Karkata * nichha * active pursuit of security * proactive nourishment * drive toward rooting + settling * vigorous defensive movement * police protector * fence-builder * push toward land ownership * promotes construction of settlements * innovative farming + fishing * energetically ethnic * champion of local cultures
  • Mangala in bhava-1 * forward fighter * muscular champion * competitive winner * drive toward performance vitality * embodied action * primal sexuality * pursuit of progress * direct movement * physical engineering * thrusting vigor * dominating personality * pushy * dynamic innovator * energized conquests * athletic body
  • Vrischika-Chandra-5 parivartamsha Karkata-Kuja-1

parivartamsha yoga between two nichha graha: Chandra-5 (celebrity) ++ Kuja-1 (yang personality) = powerful mutual nichha-bhanga of Chandra and Kuja

  • psychologically penetrating insights
  • Kuja vriddhipathi-11 resides in 1 suggesting that the economic basis persists in the iconic personality itself

RD = recognized leader within the avant-garde of spiritual culture-evolution in the West. His literary capabilities brought celebrity. RD's ability to represent an emerging (Vrischika) paradigm of belief made him a symbolic leader not in politics or education or in any formal organization, but rather as a prophet of New Thought (Budha Azvini-10)

nichha-Kuja behaviors + nichha-Chandra emotions

Public discussion of masculine sexuality (Mangala) + children (5)

Ram Dass in later years mentioned that his more authentic male sexuality became evident in high school where he formed relationships with other boys. Ss a public figure, however, RD intentionally obscured this sexual pattern. RD claimed for decades that he was a celibate yogi in love with his Guru exclusively. He piously pronounced the purity of the guru-sisya relationship.

During Chandra Mahadasha, RD revealed that his life path had involved hundreds of sexual encounters with men, but after multiple brief relationships with both men and women he would self-label as 'bisexual with a preference for men'. At age 78, RD discovered that he was a father and grandfather. He began a conversational relationship with his previously unknown 50-something son, who had been born into one of RD's brief unions with a woman in graduate school when RD was 24. However, the relationship was reported to be disengaged.

Budha * jamayah-karaka (sibling) * sandeza-karaka (message) * zisya-karaka (student) lagnesha

  • Budha-Meza * innovative communications * pioneering pronouncement * articulation of dynamic movement * discusses physical experience * vigorous descriptive explanations * growth-challenging conversation * messages about contests * vocabulary of vitality * hands-arms-shoulders send competitive gestures
  • Budha in bhava-10 * communications publicity * narrative of leadership * makes official pronouncements * describes social responsibilities * conversations about policy decisions * talks about maintaining order * explainer of governance * detailed executive announcements * delivers lawful information * chats about social authority * scripted hierarchies * dignified sibling-cohort * reputation for writing

Budha rules the Aslesa lagna

Budha in bhava-10 rules bhava-3 evangelism and explaining. RD = widely recognized for his books, presentations, radio programming, and edu-tainment tours

Budha = karaka for diplomas and examinations. in Azvini, supports medical therapeutics such as clinical psychology.

Budha-10 rules 12-imagination imagery psychic guidance = academic research into experimental hallucinogenic drugs designed to invoke imaginative experience

Guru * dhava-karaka (husband) * bahuta-karaka (variety)

* Harsha Yoga

  • Guru-Mithunaya * cheerful communication * many merchants * conversations about belief * doctrine of inclusive messaging * expansive evangelism * detailed guidance discussions * widens the scope of management * many documents * permission to report * multiple administrative projects
  • Guru in bhava-12 * swabhava * great interiority * many meditations * much divination * many hospitalizations * many spiritual retreats * numerous psychic way-showers * many large private spaces * extensive trance guidance * a patron of sanctuary enclosures * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be benevolently invisible

Guru rules Surya in bhava-9-sacred doctrine, theory, professor roles ++ 12-distant worlds, meditation, imagination, clairsentience

* author of the USA generation-defining book Be Here Now writes about ineffable spiritual experience and service *

Protective Harsha Yoga generated by Guru-Mithunaya -12 mutual drishti with atmakaraka Shani-Dhanuzya-6. This remarkably sheltering yoga has allowed Ram Dass to pursue alternative lifestyles, use a first-world biology to travel in microbial danger zones (third world), experiment with drugs, survive a massive cerebral hemorrhage and emerge as a continuously engaged spiritual teacher (Dhanuzya) and writer (Mithunaya).

Guru-12 in the deeply enclosed 12th-from-Chandra

much interiority, many convalescence experiences, much seclusion, many visits from ancestor spirits * emotionally purposed for profound dream-vision tantra

RD was pestered by illnesses and injuries large and small. Yet, he continued to serve despite the discomfort. A disabling stroke ended his actively touring spiritual media-messenger-mystic career. He entered a decades-long recovery from paralysis dealing constantly with the suffering of deep nerve pain.

His ministry then used this medical tragedy as a teaching model for pain management via application of meditation and spiritual focus upon simple things. Wheeled via mobility chair into retreat teaching environments, despite speech processing impairments from the nerve damage, he continued to serve as a popular and inspiring teacher well into his eighties.

Zukra * svadu-karaka (sweet) * kalatra-karaka (wife)

  • Zukra-Kumbha * appreciation of social networks * likes knitting-knotting * attracted to marketplace revenues * pleased by large-group connectivity * prefers a friendly partner * collectivist arrangements * enjoys regulated systems * sweetly gracious within big crowds * scientific aesthetic * financially balanced economic linkage
  • Zukra-8 * seeks pleasure via occult secrets * enjoys rejuvenating relationships * balanced healing arts * aesthetic of non-disclosure * camouflaged arrangements * hidden equity * pleasing designs to adorn the sexual-reproductive organs * sensual sphincters * obscured finance * likes initiation * transformed by feminine-figures * delighted by sudden renewal * pleasant in-laws * appreciation of identity change

Relationships, agreements

Zukra-8 = preference for hidden arrangements. Zukra-8 also occupies the 8th navamsha = intensified signification of non-disclosure and secret aesthetic in relationships. Later in his life, Ram Dass revealed that as an undisclosed gay man, in his early decades, he had anonymous (8) sexual encounters with a remarkable number of men. Sarala yoga ensured his long survival regardless of epidemic threats.

None of RD's graha are particularly weighty in terms of urgent materialization potential (bala) but Zukra-8 has the highest comparative shad bala, suggesting that ultimately the teachings about relationships would be socially recognized.

Zukra-Kumbha receives an expansive philosophical drishti from Gutu-12-Mithunaya

Shani * duro-karaka (endurance) * jara-karaka (years) atmakaraka responsibility for teaching

* sarala yoga

  • Shani-Dhanuzya * heavy old doctrines * class-conscious ideology * conventional beliefs * rigid theories * unyielding dogma * pressure to accept the common catechesis * weight of old patronage systems * structural compression upon hips + sacroiliac +sacral plexus * oppressive priests * doctrinal rules * must normalize the life-philosophy * limitations on global travel * slow elder professors * proletarian worldview * scarce preaching resources
  • Shani in Bhava-6 (beneficial placement) * Structured, orderly, time-conscious enemies * must serve the chronic victims * outlasts the adversaries * survives military siege * tense digestion * relentless criticism * constitutional illness-injury * tolerance for servitude * aging physicians * enduring diseases * service fatigue * helper's burnout * prevents innovative treatments * blocks new medications * professional social workers * patiently aids the disadvantaged * steady healthworker * accepts the rules of medical institutions * lawfully supports the sick * reliable herbalist * conventional pharmacist * protocols for problematizing * realistic about addiction * accepts abuse * neutral to crime * military discipline * governs the poor * regulates debt * legislates loans * respected elder of an oppressed people

Protective viparita raja yoga 6-12

During the 1980's and 1990's, wide swaths of the gay male population of RD's vintage fell victim to the ravages of AIDS, his Shani-enduring sarala yoga granted longevity. RD survived strokes, infections, and epidemic diseases due to viparita-raja-yoga via Shani in Bhava-6 = chronic ailment rather than death.

Age 66 during Mangala-Shani bhukti.= devastating stroke

Shani-6 rules 7-arrangements, agreements, contracts ++ 8-hidden assets, secret relations, undisclosed power

Vargottamsha atmakaraka Shani-6 suggest that partnerships are overall burdened (Shani) by health issues, disagreement, and mismatched expectations

Stoic Shani rules 3 and 4 from Chandra-lagna = foundational teaching (4), publishing, apprenticeship (3)

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka (ambition) * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Meena * shimmering illusion of immersion * craving for symbolic guidance * extravagant imagination * mirage of dreamlike wisdom * mesmerizing aura of concealing fog * mask of Other-Worldly wisdom * fascinating prayers * extraordinary ancestor guides * fabulous clairsentience * intriguing sleep-states * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of deep trance * exceptional private intuition * unorthodox interior guidance * seeks privilege via contemplative-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-9 * * passion for preaching * in swabhava of Saptarishi Guru, the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous guidance * thrilling theory * dazzling dharma * outsider who cleverly insinuates into patriarchal roles * seeks importance via sacred teachings * fantastic philosophy * compulsive catechesis * zealous proselytism * intriguing ideology * ambitious father-figures * extraordinary professors * barrier-breeching guru-figures * culturally-mixed worldview * poseur of high catechism * shimmering illusion of sangha * fabulous faith community * surreptitious appropriation of priesthood * may appear as a wisdom-purveyor * smoky specter of principled understanding * extravagant globalism * trespasses cultural boundaries of patronage * fabulous fatherhood * opportunistic third marriage (if any) * social mobility via paradigms of belief
  • Rahu-yuti-Surya * amplified ambition for center-stage roles * magnified confidence * passion for exotic display * trickster with dramatic flair * opportunistic father * creative pursuit of social mobility * fascinating (but perhaps illusory) appearance of exceptional intelligence * thrilling political genius * hypnotic charm * seeks privilege via bright celebrity * sparkling center of cross-cultural mixing

Ketu kavandha-karaka (headless) * chidra-karaka (gaping) * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Kanya * humbly dissociates from accusatory complaints * incomplete service * empty disagreements * odd arguments * not limited by stigmatized conditions * ignores restriction on helpfulness * eccentric service to the disadvantaged * releases a living green cloud of servitude into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-3 * eccentric communications * disinterested in daily chat * writes on foggy abstract topics * dissolves messaging boundaries * implausible prophecy * wandering discussions * can handle esoteric information * irrelevance of normal mental narrative * abandons management tasks * dismisses the standard explanations * disregards conventional discourse * unless other graha in 3, may prefer to live free from younger siblings

Ketu in classroom-3 dissolution of fixed mentality during short-term travels (3). Not a permanent resident of the Rahu-9 exotic environments which shaped his worldview. Rather, a brief visitor whose stories of dispersed attachment to body-mind became inspirational Rahu--yuti-Surya-9 for a 30-year generation.

Elder sibling * 11th-from-Chandra = Ketu

Ketu-3-Kanya occupies the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra

Bantering Budha-10 significator of siblings rules Ketu-Kanya. Budha occupies 6/8 from dissimilating Ketu-3. According to Ram Dass' stories, his elder brother suffered from persistent mental illness. The brother was delusional and prone to petty crimes. Brother was in-and-out of involuntary residential treatment for many years. Opportunity for communication was significantly limited by the brother's mental incoherence Ketu-3.

Ram Dass *** I Crochet

"I was giving this lecture back in the 70's and everybody in those days wore white, and they had flowers in their hair and we sang a lot, and we were all - it was like an explorers club coming together, and sitting in the front row was this woman about 70 years old and she had - she had a bonnet on with little strawberries, plastic strawberries, and cherries and things and she had a black patent leather bag and solid oxfords and a print dress and she was a very - I kept thinking, she was so unlike everybody else in the audience, I kept thinking what is she doing here.

  • I thought maybe she's somebody's grandmother or somebody brought her or -

  • so I would tell these far out stories that what happened to me under psychedelics for the most part or deep meditation,

  • and I'd look over and she'd be going like this, and I thought well maybe she has a neck problem.

I mean it was inconceivable to me that she could understand what I was talking about, and she kept going like this and I kept getting more far out and watching - I mean the whole evening became focused on this woman.

  • And at the end I couldn't stand it, the evening was over.

And I just had to know and I kind of smiled her up - actually couldn't get away, and she came up and she said oh thank you that's - the way you said it she said that's just the way I understand the universe to be, and I said, how do you know?

What have you done in your life that has put you in the space where you know these things, and she leaned forward very conspiratorially and she said, I crochet, and that moment of realizing that just the simplest thing, that in the way she did that took her into those spaces and realizing at that moment that I had gotten so hooked on my method , and that methods are methods are methods and people do it all different kinds of ways ..."


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