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OM shram sreem shraum sah chandraya namah

OM pram preem proum sah shanaischaraya namah




Saturan - Kevan


Nanna - Anna - Di-ana - Inanna

Sin - Sinai - Selene - Serena - Luna

Aah - Iah

Mens - Mind - Moon = Monday

emotionally triggered authoritarian repressive regimes

social conduct perfectionism

Mother may be an icon of moral rectitude

Sanskrit Vocabulary for Nishturabhashi Yoga

निष्ठुरभाषिन् = speaking harshly

  • निष्ठुर niṣṭhura = harsh, severe
  • भाषा bhāṣā = language, speech




Title: Icon of Chinnamasta, the Mahavidya arising from the joined bodies of the Originating Couple, Kangra, c.1800

Art Description: Icon of Chinnamasta, the Mahavidya arising from the joined bodies of the Originating Couple, Kangra, c.1800

QUOTATION from Shri B.V. Raman

300 Important Combinations: Pretasapa Yoga, p. 209

  • " The Moon-Rahu-Saturn connection, in any form, is always indicative of the influences of what are generally known as devils, spirits, ghosts and other destructive denizens."



Shri Raman is referring to entities of the Lower Astral. Entrapped in their own lusts and therefore harmless to psychically conscious humans [who simply ignore them] -- nevertheless, creatures of the Lower Astral can be a pestilence for vulgar humans who are wandering in tamasic stupor.

Vajrayana calls them hungry ghosts and hell-beings. Other traditions call them demons, et-cetera. These disembodied astral creatures have voices. They are former humans who became enslaved to the animal-level experiences of sexual compulsion, bloody violence, and addiction to killing. Their unwanted interference is easily eradicated via psychic pest-control:

  • Lay flat on a bed or on a floor.
  • In the imagination, create a protective pyramid of white-light around oneself.
  • Place the base of this white-light radiant pyramid of protective energy below oneself, approximately three feet below the body.
  • The pyramid dimension should be approximately three feet larger than The earthen body length as well.
  • For example if one stands 2 meters tall then the base of the pyramid will be approximately 4 meters wide.
  • In the mind, simply enlarge the pyramid until it provides the protective size and height to remain as a geometrically intact pyramid shape containing The earthen body nicely with a pleasant, secure buffer around the body.
  • Charge this pyramid with the energy of safety, intelligence, and divine guidance.
  • Intentional thoughts create reality.
  • The pests will be repelled by the wave frequency of this healing light and will cease to be bothersome.
  • The person can be sitting, standing, walking, or laying during creation of the pyramid.
  • It can be calming to create this white-light pyramid in the mind before drifting off to sleep.
  • It can be created while sitting in an aircraft passenger seat, taking an examination, climbing a peak, driving a wagon, riding an elephant, going to sleep, or standing in queue at the bank.
  • The power of the pyramid is held in the frequency of the intentional thought. When the thought is no longer held in the mind, the pyramid simply dissolves.

These entities of the lower astral are trapped into the upper atmosphere surrounding the School-of-Earth by their pre-incarnationally planned obsessions. Most of them have previously misused their human incarnations. They are not presently eligible to be incarnated and due to their addiction they have very little power. They are lingering in a state of mind that is sometimes called a hell.

They are chained into the imagery of the fiery animal nervous system but they do not have their own flesh-bodies. Rather they feed their pre-incarnationally planned addictions by scurrying around trying to get their jollies from watching real humans doing acts of violence, brutality, and unbridled animal lust such as killing and rape.

Even these miserable slaves to the fires of the beastly chassis can be rescued by meditation upon the Mahavidya Chinnamasta = Chinnamunda, were they able to summon the concentration to do so.

[Shani-Mesha] [nīcha] yuti [Chandra-Mesha] = brain, muscles, blood

[Shani-Urisha] yuti [Chandra-Urisha] [uchcha]

[mūlatrikoṇa if within 4-30]

comforted by precious values = settled into rhythmic gathering = needs luxury = eyes, naeck, jaw

[Shani-Mithuna] yuti [Chandra-Mithuna] comforted by messaging = settled into rhythmic communications = needs mentality = arms, hands, shoulders, lungs

[Shani-Karkata] yuti [Chandra-Karkata] comforted by maternal soothing = settled into tidal rhythms = needs to protect = chest, stomach, body waters

  • " Sabian Symbols " writer Marc Edmund Jones

  • USA-VP-Sen Dan Quayle

[Shani-Simha] yuti [Chandra-Simha]

[Shani-Kanya] yuti [Chandra-Kanya]

dietary, digestive, intestines

[Shani-Tula] [uchcha] yuti [Chandra-Tula]

comforted by ritual negotiation of agreements = sensitive to balance = needs to trade = kidney, adrenal

[Shani in Vṛścika] yuti Chandra-Vṛścika [nīcha] comforted by mystery = sensitive to trauma-healing = needs healing discovery = sexual-reproductive, liver

[Shani-Dhanus] yuti [Chandra-Dhanus] comforted by customary beliefs = settled into rhythmic received teachings = needs to feel wisely guided = = Sacroiliac, pelvis, thighs = fundamentalist interpretation of sacred doctrine

[Shani-Makara-Draco] yuti [Chandra-Makara-Draco] comforted by hierarchy = sensitive to class-status = needs ritual ordering = knees, bones

[Shani-Kumbha] yuti [community-connected Chandra-Kumbha] comforted by friendship = sensitive to mass-participation gridworks = needs marketplace connection = calves, ankles, skin

  • Heartbreak Hotel 1935-1977 Graceland Elvis Presley [9] somewhat neutralized by incoming drishti from Guru-Tula-5

  • film producer, director Woody Allen

  • fashion model Cindy Crawford

  • philosopher of religions, writer, professor Mircea Eliade

  • existentialist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre

[Shani-Meena] yuti [Chandra-Meena] comforted by ancestral guidance = settled into rhythmic intuition = needs contemplative sanctuary = feet, lymph glands

  • balladeer Janet Damita Jo Jackson + Shukra



“Resting in Shamatha” in The Path of Individual Liberation : Volume One of The Profound Treasury of the Ocean of Dharma

by Chögyam Trungpa, p. 232

" If you don' t have a good relationship with yourself, you cannot understand the dharma, and your body and mind will not be properly coordinated.

The practice of meditation helps you coordinate your body and your mind. You realize that your mind can be directed to a particular effort, that your mind works.

Through shamatha, or the basic practice of meditation, you are able to raise your mind to an adult level. Your mind does not jump all over the place whenever you try to do something." [end quote]


Andrew Solomon, The Noonday Demon : An Atlas of Depression

" It is important not to suppress your feelings altogether when you are depressed. It is equally important to avoid terrible arguments or expressions of outrage.

You should steer clear of emotionally damaging behavior. People forgive, but it is best not to stir things up to the point at which forgiveness is required.

When you are depressed, you need the love of other people, and yet depression fosters actions that destroy that love.

Depressed people often stick pins into their own life rafts. The conscious mind can intervene.

One is not helpless."

QUOTATION from Shri B.V. Raman

  • Three Hundred Important Combinations

  • BVR's comments on nishturabhashi yoga

  • निष्ठुरभाषिन् = speaking harshly

296. Nishturabhashi Yoga


the Moon must be in conjunction with Saturn.


The person will be harsh in speech.


If Jupiter aspects the Moon-Saturn conjunction, the yoga gets neutralized

  • If the aspecting planet is Mars,

  • then the person will not only be harsh and blunt in his speech, but sarcastic also."

[end quote]

emotional withholding

resistance to flow of sentiment

moral rectitude

frozen fluctuation

poverty of sentiment

repressed sensitivity

strict local customs

limited comfort

emotional austerity

maternal discipline

constrained flow

regulated feelings

paralyzingly heavy routines

bitter nostalgia for the rhythms and routines (Chandra or a time [Shani] that seems [Chandra] to have passed

fear-based need for social approval

strongest results during Shani mahadasha and Chandra Mahadasha

  • resists nourishment
  • suppressed flow
  • parochialism
  • limited comfort
  • emotional discipline
  • constrained flow
  • regulated feelings
  • dutiful protector
  • mother's love must be earned by socially approved performance

  • nishturabhashi yoga = suggests a controlling or punitive mother whose love is conditional upon performance of the child's socially approved behaviors.

Much depends upon the bhava of residence ++ the three rulerships

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Arcturus-Shani-yuti-Chandra-Visaka] [12., clandestine duties] JEC represents the American culture of democratic political elections [Shani rules 4-5] mixed with southern-USA Protestant Christian culture of missionary charity. [Chandra rules 9-doctrine, principled belief]


Mom may accounted as perfectionistic toward the native

She may demand excellent public performance as the required cost of maternal affection.

The child expects to suffer emotional deprivation, and usually does. May signal an extremely hard worker who lives in fear of failure.

Compassionate understanding of an emotionally limited, potentially punitive, fearful mother requires non-judgmental awareness.

Time-Order + Security

Strict-and-sober Shanaicarya is the master of Order.

He commands Chandra to regulate the emotional world.

Chandra matrikaraka reciprocates with His command that normally neutral Shani should focus the structuring patterns locally, rather than at the hierarchical levels to which Shani usually attends.

Within the structure of the nativity at birth, there is an emotional need to tightly control the flow of time in order to maximize performance.

There is a deep need to order the family, the home, the locality, the immediate natural environment.

nishturabhashi yoga (Shani-yuti-Chandra) = one feels [Chandra] that protection must be earned [Shani]. Unconditional love is not available. Time-clocked, rule-governed work must be applied to all aspects of life, so that one may be proven worthy of safety, nourishment, shelter, and affection.

Shani-yuti-Chandra tends to produce a notably ritualistic personality, seeking security in material achievement, deeply concerned with proper allocation of time.

Mother and Parents

Typically, the Chandra-Shani pair indicates a mother who has been traumatized in her own life. She responds to her own pain with a fiercely punitive, materialistic, and sustaining [Shani] survival fear.

nishturabhashi yoga often signals a forbidding, stiff mother who prioritizes external conduct. The child must produce good behavior, good grades, exemplary display of social protocol and highest public decorum.

Mom is generally unable to provide flowing, naatural, responsive, unconditional affection. She can provide material conditions of survival, including punishment and reward. She may be overtly hostile to the child, expressing fear that the child will somehow jeopardize her security even further.

Having been threatened with harshly traumatic consequences for social misconduct (or accusation of it) the parents as a partnership may be extra-strict to ensure that their remaining dignity would not be violated by anyone ever again including their children.

Deep sense of social responsibility for children and their security

Frozen Flow

Shani-yuti-Chandra has been judged - rather than loved - by the mother. Mother's love has been withheld until the child has performed socially approved actions which bring honor to the parents.

The child is being used to compensate for the mother's (usually hidden) shame. The child develops a chronic [Shani] need [Chandra] to produce measurable, accountable performance which will earn the emotional credit that is required to obtain the parental acceptance and love.

One consequence of nishturabhashi yoga is a desperate focus on personal credit and frozen-flow restricted ability to attribute credit to others. The three bhava owned by Chandra-Shani , and particularly Chandra's bhava, become non-collaborative as the native with apparent selfishness

Special Case = Shani rules 12 while Chandra rules 6

[Visaka-Chandra-yuti-Shani-Svati] [in 9, rigidly principled beliefs]

Extreme governance intractabile conditions

Shukra-Chandra bhukti ++ Sade-Sati

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Arcturus-Shani-yuti-Chandra-Visaka] [12., clandestine duties] The American electorate and even JEC himself declared his 1976-1980 POTUS-39 term to have been a // failed presidency // due to Carter's ethical paralysis [Shani-Chandra] He was so worried [Shani] about doing the right thing [Soma morality] that he did nothing. The two main events which crippled JEC's leadership were the Iran Hostage Crisis and the Oil Embargo, which created the so-called Energy Crisis [Shani no-movement]. The vast majority of JEC's insurmountable leadership challenges involved criminal actors in distant lands [12] over whom he had little or no control.


One may feel [Chandra] a heavy social responsibility [Shani] to care for one's own parents. The mother may be excessively strict and punitive. Nevertheless, one may shelter and protect the parents who have showed little empathy. The Child becomes the Parent.

  • Heartbreak Hotel 1935-1977 Graceland Elvis Presley was the sole surviving child of his young parents. His father was seventeen when his parents married. Neither parent enjoyed the benefit of education. Dad was inconsistently employed. Mom needed a socially correct [Shani] child as they stayed with various relatives while Dad was in prison for the crime of bank cheque forgery. Mom punished little Elvis for any small infraction. Child-rearing techniques that were then common in the rural South would be labeled now as child-abuse. Yet, the family survived with sweet-singing child Elvis as its vital center. When still a teenager, Elvis became the parent to his parents. He bought his parents a house and fully supported them financially until his mother's death from alcohol toxicity [Elvis age 23] followed by EP's own untimely death aged 42. His dad continued to live off EP's estate.

nishturabhashi yoga produces a socially lawful personality who may often experience the conditions of life as emotionally constricted, conditionalized, and unforgiving. May be somewhat self-punishing until the consciousness advances, to realize that one has installed a self-limiting self-constraining emotional reaction within the inner self.

First step in unbinding the punishment complex is to forgive the self for having chosen the harsh judgmental, naegligent, emotionally unavailable, legalistic, or "spare the rod and spoil the child" type of parents. The next step is to forgive the parents, particularly the mother, for their frozen incapacity to deliver emotional flow.

One may seem to age chronologically yet not mature emotionally.

Fear of Flow , leading to emotional stagnation.

Finds emotional security (Somana) within strict hierarchies [Shani]. The tightly regulated status-pyramid [Shani] within which one seeks shelter [Chandra] may be a religious-ideological organization, apolitical organization, an educational organization, afinancial organization, or a government-corporate bureaucracy.

Needs a lifestyle and emotional identity that is protected by a socially legitimate, regulated hierarchy. Often accepts parent-type authority emanating from boss-figures.

  • Foursquare Evangelist 1890-1944 Aimee Semple McPherson [Simha-Chandra-yuti-Shani-6]. Ethnic culture [Chandra] and punitive Biblical law [Shani] formed her service ministry [6]/ ASM was generally supported by the conventional Christian ministers of her day but she faced some misogynistic adversaries too, 6. ASM's evangelical career was directed financially and commercially by her dominating mother [Chandra]. Mom managed entertainment venues [Chandra rules 5] while Aimee was a charismatic performer. A famed falling-out with her mother nearly destroyed her career because mom controlled the revenues [Shani rules 11]. Mom demanded a huge severance payment and after the split became a vigorous critic of her daughter [Chandra-6, mom enemy]. Chandra-yuti-Shani-Simha can be especially harsh due to mother's pride [Simha].

Emotionally sensitive to designation of class and rank; finds "belonging" within a specific social class (even when pursuing agenda of class conflict

If compounded by Rahu, starts at a low rank and strives toward affiliation with elite rank

Chandra's calming and comforting behaviors are conjoined with Professor Shani's teaching agenda regarding law and order, crime and punishment, structure and stamina , time and space, rights and responsibilities, scarcity, delay, austerity, restrictions, public reputation, respectability, conformism, and leadership roles.

It may be felt as emotionally natural for the native to ally oneself with large, highly ordered, top-down regulated institutional organizations such as government and other hierarchical bureaucracies.

Harsh performance pressure, usually paired with some expression of separation from the mother (physical, emotional, psychological, mental, social).

The stronger Chandra's character, the more likely that Chandra-yuti-Shani may indicate early childhood separation from the mother, e.g. for the strong character of Chandra-Urisha, naearly always.

May harken for the old times [Shani] emotionally identified with resentment for having lost an older social paradigm

  • Old Time Feeling 1929-2003 June Carter Cash (5) = rural Pentecostal Christian bitter nostalgia for time seen to have passed = with her parents [Chandra] particularly her mother, she served as an exponent of the musical rhythms [Chandra] of the rural American Old-Time Religion This routine pattern of evocatively emotionally Protesting Christian beliefs and practices, songs and sermons, constituted a much -aggrieved harkening to the agricultural past.

In addition, the signification of the bhava may represent a permanently grieving environment

Seeks emotional identity validation through enforcing rules and regulations strengthening social conformity systems, and (sometimes) oppressing weaker persons (Chandra, weaker ones, vulnerable).

  • Opus Dei 1902-1975 St. Josemaria Escriva= Chandra-Dhanus (religion) especially strong conservative appeal due to rigidly structural Lawful Chandra-yuti-Shani -12 = Cult of the Mother.

Gives a strict moral character in re: statutory law (not divine law). Natives are rule-bound emotionally - usually from having survived major childhood trauma.

Austerity and communal conformity may be the only way one knows how to live ,

life may be often uncomfortable - particularly moral discomfort, i.e., guilt

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Arcturus-Shani-yuti-Chandra-Visaka] [12., clandestine duties] JEC intended to uphold the practice of lawful governance. JEC's uchcha-Shani-yuti-Chandra adds a powerful reinforcement to his social-justice agenda, instilled by his proper, class-conscious matrikaraka Chandra = Miss Lillian. He lost re-election to POTUS-39 because he took far too long [Shani] to make decisions in critically important timeframes. He was determined to think through all the options and do the morally proper one [Chandra]. However, Americans are impatient. It is rare for an incumbent to lose, and JEC lost the vote by a wide margin.

All yoga involving the Moon give a tendency to project one's feelings upon others. one projects their feelings of oppression, restriction, scarcity, poverty, exposure, lack of trust and emotional abandonment upon others.

  • Regulatory, conformist, law-abiding and law-imposing, change-averse personality.

  • Needs to prevent the individualized movement of others.

  • Seeks mandatory social regulation and cultural uniformity as a means to achieve protective emotional security.

The conformist rigidity and emotional coldness of nishturabhashi yoga can be heated and energized in rashi of Mangala. This yoga in either Mesha or Vṛścika may attempt to regulate conditions of birth, explosion, invention, innovation, war, human sexuality, hidden resources, catastrophic force, or tantric transformation. In either Mesha or Vṛścika, expect conditions of great urgency combined with great emotional resistance.

nishturabhashi yoga in Mesha or Vṛścika can be very challenging to the personality development; Yet, the native is often financially privileged.

Unhappy childhood, full of heavy responsibility and inadequate protection or support. With other malefics, this yoga can results in emotionally exploitation, and in the company of other evil Graha may signal an oppressive perpetrator who was himself exploited in childhood.

Tends toward spinal pain in The earthen body

  • which expresses this emotional reality of lack of support, heavy guilt, feeling overburdened etc.

A deeply compromised emotional life in which one carries the burdens of others.

  • Typically scarce, delayed, insufficient or inadequate parenting, esp. from the mother.

  • May form a rigid, unyielding emotional resentment behind a socially dignified facade

  • In intimate relationships, tends to parent the partner.

Similar effects to Shani in lagna or Shani drishti to Chandra, but more emotionally profound and acute. If Shani, chandra and lagnesha are all in lagna, one may be physically and socially powerful but deeply oppressed emotionally .

Nishturabhashi yoga = does not normally harm others, but rather one feels an underlying lack of emotional support throughout the incarnation, which becomes acute during each Sade-Sati.

General effect is similar to a lifelong Sade-Sati. Associated with death of the mother if the first Sade-Sati or [Shani Mahadasha] occurs early in life. May have several substitute mothers; none of them very effective; and may produce children but will experience emotional blocks in connecting to them.

With Kuja, does well in military and dangerous settings. With Guru, an authoritarian teacher. (If Guru is benevolent, afirm but compassionate educator.) With Shukra, very pretty but ones beauty is exploited and eventually one exploits others.

Shani drishti upon Chandra, the parents project their uncompleted social responsibilities or performance expectations upon the child.

nishturabhashi yoga has rarely or never experienced unconditional love from one's parents [Chandra] especially mother.

The caretakers, protectors, and shelterers in one's early, emotionally vulnerable life would have for pre-incarnationally planned reasons tied their approval to external performance [Shani].

Worthiness is measured by the child's abidance of social behavioral rules, not by inherent emotional or spiritual worthr.

From the perspective of One who plays the wifely-companion

[Guru-yuti-Chandra] = 1st-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the first husband. The first marriage reinforces the emotional identity.

Shani-yuti-Chandra = 1st-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the second husband. The second marriage supports respectable social-emotional identity.

Sri Aurobindo = Mula Chandra yuti Pūrvāṣāḍhā Shani suggesting an exceptionally challenging situation with his mother, and implicating to some extent both parents.

describing their parents, this etter from his elder brother Manmohan makes clear the severity:

" Christ Church - Feb. 18th 1888 - All childhood and boyhood is expansive. This human ivy stretches passionately forth its young tendrils, and the warm feelings are at the forefront, yearning to bestow and to be reciprocated: it is all heart; its brain lies undeveloped. It is the wise forethought of Nature that this should be so; but, in my case, fate came between and cancelled her decrees; and, what to others is the bright portion of their life, its heaven and refuge, was for me bitterly and hopelessly blighted. You will not understand me, unless I tell a circumstance of my life which is unhappily both painful for me to reveal, and for you to hear. I had no mother. She is insane. You may judge the horror of this, how I strove to snatch a fearful love, but only succeeded in hating and loathing, and at last becoming cold. Crying for bread I was given a stone. My father was kind but stern, and I never saw much of him. Thus from childhood I was subject to fits of gloom and despondence which grew with my age.... I only relate this because I can't otherwise explain the peculiar melancholy which now partly composes my character. Also, ibelieve, there is something repulsive about me....."

1/1 = Chandra-yuti-Shani = permanent Sade-Sati

Beholden to the Mother, either by her presence or by her absence.

The identity of Mother + Self becomes the primary instructional agency in the struggle with Akashic memory patterning which aims to transform emotional ignorance into emotional wisdom.

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Arcturus-Shani-yuti-Chandra-Visaka] [12., clandestine duties] JEC's mother = the legendary southern matriarch, Miss Lillian. Mom was JEC's moral-authority + his lifetime mentor and guide. During JEC's presidency, the entire nation learned about Miss Lillian and her behavioral [Shani] expectations for her son.

A certain degree of self-annihilation = necessary to succeed in meeting the obligatory agenda of the current incarnation.

The Shani-Chandra conjunction = psychically oppressive. It guarantees an emotionally restrictive, demanding mother, and early separation from a mother who becomes either physically or emotionally unavailable.

The deprivation of unconditional love may shape a materially productive and reliable citizen who seeks social approval through material performance. Nishturabashi-yoga signifies a hard worker whose need for approval shapes the life choices.

Nishturabashi-yoga may be psychologically savvy about what makes people tick.

In roles of public responsibility, naishturabashi-yogamay be notably sensitive to the needs of oppressed people.

These individuals are not so much politically conservative as they are emotionally fearful.

Lifelong condition of unmet emotional need due to self-defensiveness. Great frustration in the attempt to obtain pure and unconditional love.

In the husband-role, one may become jealous and fearful of women who are interested in their own children. The masculine figure may demand to be the favored child in any relationship with a woman.

In the wifely role, one may deeply yearn for a lost mother. However, awifely figure may recover much of her lost love during the process of bearing and raising her own children.

The permanent Sade-Sati effect often include an obligatory separation from one's children caused by work duties.

The longing for unconditional love can be satisfied by locating a higher, non-perishable reality of mother such as a non-material female deity who neither disappears nor dies. Shani-Chandra yoga are common in the nativities of spiritual aspirants, especially those who dedicate much time to soothing ritualistic practices.

May give excellent public service results, particularly if either Shani or Chandra is dignified.

With panchmahapurusha-yoga Shani

  • in Makara, Kumbha, or Thula
  • AND ALSO in bhava-1, bhava-4, bhava-7, bhava-10

the Shani-Chandra conjunction may produce a distinguished public service in the sober tasks of (respectively) public safety, public education, public festivals, public marriage, ritual traditions, and morality in public office.

Challenging for Shani-Mesha or Shani-Simha.

Socialistic Shani suffers in the rashi of Shanaicarya's mortal enemy individualistic Suryar.

Results depend very much upon whether Shani or Chandra is the stronger graha.

When Shani is stronger than Chandra, one may been seen to exemplify the compensation mechanism: lack of maternal emotional support exchanged for popular socially recognized roles. Validation comes not from natural affection but from work.

  • Heartbreak Hotel 1935-1977 Graceland Elvis Presley [Kumbha-Shani-yuti-Chandra] Shani gains uttamsha in navamsha, and Shani is far-dominant in kundali as, ruler of 8+9 and from Chandra, 12-1. Soma Himself is weakened by ruling Ketu-2 as as always for Kumbha-Chandra, by ruling 6th-from-self, implies emotionally sourced emnity and ailment.

When Chandra is stronger than Shani, one may exemplify a comfortable routine following a familiar way-of-life. Shani makes Chandra more soberly responsible, more prone to accept governance duties, and more formally moral, but overall the lifestyle favors soothing repetitions and shelter.

  • POTUS-39 Talking Peace 1924- Jimmy Carter [Arcturus-Shani-yuti-Chandra-Visaka] [12., clandestine duties] Chandra rules Rahu in 10th-from-Chandra while Shani = bandhesha. JEC lived for a century. His national reputation was built when he served as Gov-Georgia + POTUS-39, but those two jobs took only eight years to complete. The rest of his career was concerned with continuing the familiar rhythms of his life, such as church worship, house building, teaching morality to children [Sunday School] and providing ballot security to newly democratic countries during each election cycle. Karmesha Chandra's effects favored regularity and routine.

Prognosis always improved if either Shani or Chandra is dignified by rashi or if either rules a kendra or a bhagya-sthāna. Shani-yuti-Rahu -or- Chandra-yuti-Rahu = amplified results.


ChristChurch Cathedral of the Church of England in Oxford.

Methodism 1703-1791 preacher John Wesley was ordained here.

conservative-reactionary politics

Seeking stability and security in an environment of emotional scarcity, somana expresses Shani's agenda for complete social conformity.

Chandra-yuti-Shani does NOT work to "change the system" . Shani IS the system. Shani = work and hierarchies; Chandra = the source of nourishment.

nishturabhashi yoga holds deeply conservative views and for the most part practices a strictly orthodox version of the cultural customs of one's people.

[nīcha] Shani-Mesha + Chandra-5: conservative-reactionary politics (5) at the maximum oppression.

raised by elderly [Shani] parents or grandparents or within the stricture of a conservative institution

Nishturabashi may be raised by elderly [Shani] parents or grandparents who discourage movement [Shani] and impose a regime of quietude, regular hours with no variation of habit, along with strict [Shani] observance of social convention. The home environment [Chandra] requires a respectable [Shani] facade regardless of the emotional truth within.

  • Tantra 1931-1990 professor Osho Rajneesh + Shukra + [Mangala-yuti-Surya] (Dhanus-1) was raised by his devotional grandparents. Mr Chandra Mohan Jain was the eldest of eleven children. His parents were alive, but they lived elsewhere during the first seven years of his childhood.

Deprivation of unconditional love in the parenting experience

nishturabhashi yoga experiences a scarcity [Shani] of consistent nurturing. One generally does not get comfortable and pleasing results from long-term investments of attention in personal relationships. When faced with a one-to-one caretaking task, one's emotional attention may become distracted by material-professional-social concerns, like friends or work duties.

One may feel emotionally cramped when direct shelter-nurture is needed yet comfortable and capable in work routines that produce socially approved, professionalized, dependable, reliable, predictable, and lawful outcomes.

nishturabhashi yoga represents a signature emotional response to the world. Day to day, the world feels like a tough place. One holds a core emotional expectation, based on early life experience, that one cannot realistically expect deep, unconditional support from others.

As an adult, one holds the conviction that such a vague, intuitive response to others is inappropriate to life's survival realities and one should in fact not be delivering so much unreliable and unproductive affection into the world.

The life habits which form like a protective shell around the core trauma (often the loss of a parent, by death or long absence) are based in the sober assessment that each monad is self-responsible. One proceeds through adulthood on this basis.

In practice, there may be, in less conscious persons, atangible lack of compassion based on the early experience of parenting that is emotionally cramped and withholding.

Yet, in persons of higher perception the necessity of rendering lawful service to society feels [Chandra] absolute while personal needs seem secondary or indeed irrelevant to the larger systemr.

Once the polarizing catalysis of the parenting challenge subsides, the native will have blocked off most of the pain of one's childhood in order to develop the one part of their strict upbringing that might actually work in the world. That is the emotionally reinforced ability to meet material performance expectations re: time, deadlines, laws, rules [Shani].

Limits [Shani] on fellow-feeling and cooperation within relationships

  • " my way or the highway"

Generally, one hears a powerful inner voice that promotes personal survival under difficult circumstances. One rarely accepts commands from an outside voice that does not conform to one's sense of inner order. The native is usually comfortable therefore, in strictly lawful socially regulated organizations but does not partner well on an emotional-peer basis.

Marriage can be stressful with nishturabhashi yoga due to one's resistance [Shani] to emotional bonding. However, alliance with another similarly doctrinaire personality can be materially successful and what is most important for the native, highly reputable.

nishturabhashi yoga responds mainly and often exclusively to the voice of Necessity [Shani]. If loyalty seems necessary for survival, it will be practiced. If not necessary for survival, it may be abandoned.

One has built up an emotional shield around the core feelings; scarce capability to cooperate based on natural trust or fellow-feeling. However, it is often perceived to be sensible and pro-survival [Shani] to cooperate based on mutually agreed rules, material goals, or simple physical survival. Due to ability to shut down emotionally, nishturabhashi yoga may flourish in the most austere conditions such as poverty and warr.

  • Jean-Paul Sartre's father died when the philosopher was a toddler; he was raised by his grandparents and had no friends of his own age until he entered university. His notable relationship to the feminist philosopher Second Sex 1908-1986 social theory Simone de Beauvoir was intense and lifelong. Yet, he maintained his sexual freedoms and refused to marry her, declaring the marriage commitment to be -- in the style of Shani's strict austerities -- 'unnecessary'.


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Shani + Chandra

Each graha makes an essential contribution to earth-human survival by guaranteeing earth-human connection to the life forces that keep earth-human soul connected to the Earth-time body for the full length of the current incarnation.

Shani controls physical-body survival while Chandra controls emotional-body survival.

Shani sets conditional expectations for public success while Somana sets unconditional expectations for personal acceptance.

When Shani occupies the same radix or navamsha house with the Moon, the conflict between these two different survival mandates produces:

  • oppression of the feelings; lack of freedom to request and receive acceptance

  • strict rules for belonging, for access to roots, for membership in the settlement

  • internal conflict between personal needs and public rules

  • impeded permission to obtain emotional satisfaction - one feels that one must earn affection through public works and social performance

  • low empathy in social relationships

  • reduced intuition; increased materialism

When Strict Shani oppresses Caretaking Chandra, one has accepted a birth in which past-life pre-incarnationally planned pay-off requires first Mother Trouble in childhood, and then Relationship Trouble in adulthood. The primary source of polarizing catalysis becomes the experience of disappointment regarding the expectation that one would be cared for by the socially designated protectors. One may feel very much restrained emotionally.

  • [Shani] carries out the human genetic mandate for individual physical survival through social conformity. Shani ensures that earth-human group will protect us from tribal enemies and that our group will not ostracize or murder us.

  • Shani enforces traditional behavior expectations upon individuals by imposing socially agreed consequences for non-conformist behavior.

  • Shani applies punishments - in the form of restrictions to individual freedom - to persons who threaten the security of family custom, tribal practice, or the authority of formal legal systems.

Shani is about orderly doing - not about calm being .

Chandra is about being - not about doing.

  • Soothing Somana carries out the genetic mandate to get the unconditional love that earth-humans need to survive emotionally. Chandra ensures that earth-human's guardian spirits will protect us from astral enemies and that terrestrial humans will not become infested with negative emotion and self-destruct, thereby ending this carefully managed experiment.

  • Chandra sustains earth-human's deepest trust in humanity's essential connectedness to all life both here on Earth and in the universe which shelters the biome.

  • Acting via the maternal patterns of rhythmic caretaking and holding, shri Chandra applies the gentle embrace of belonging - in the form of unconditional love - to all beings regardless of status or achievement. The only criterion of elegibility to receive love is the criterion of being alive.

Das / Behari commentary upon the brief day or two, occurring once per month, when Chandra transits opposition to Shani

" ... a gloomy state of affairs tends to bring delays and disappointments and hinders one's progress in all directions.

  • One will brood and look upon the dark side of things. Afflicted health.

  • Avoid depression and melancholia affecting health.

Trying time for financial affairs.

One should not trust too much on others.

  • There may be a death in a family.

  • A timid and fearful attitude be avoided; take a firm [view], resolute and positive actions.

Melancholia, disharmony in romance and family life, heavy domestic responsibilities.

  • Loneliness, low energy.
  • Lack of love from others." [end quote]

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Chandra-yuti-Shani compared with Rahu-Ketu-+-Chandra and Mangala -+-Chandra:

When Shani oppresses Chandra by conjunction or drishti, the native feels profound self-criticism and intense loneliness, and suffers a repeating cycle of emotional deprivation trauma in the life.

Rahu-Ketu-yuti-Chandra and Mangala -yuti-Chandra can also cause trauma and sorrow. However, the pre-incarnationally planned experience of Rahu or Mars with Chandra is qualitatively different.

Rahu provides plenty of attraction/repulsion karma and Mars creates war, violence, angry fights. Mars in lagna or yuti Chandra famously produces the most intense kuja dosha or"manglik" [as they say in India] which always creates a struggle for"space" in marriage.

Shani-yuti-Chandra is more harsh, because Shani ostracizes and isolates the human from deepest emotional attachments.

Traumatic attachment/separation events repeat at approximately 7-year, 14-year, and 23-year intervals, when gochara Shani moves through his 7th, 10th, and 3rd aspects to His own placer.

  • Nishturabhashi approaches hierarchies of good and hierarchies of evil with equal respect.

Shani is not a pioneer or a change-agent. Shani accommodates the social laws and folkways, ancient customs, and established cultural norms which are in place at the time of the incarnation. Shani's interest first and foremost is one's own security, established via one's rank and position in one's chosen hierarchy. Thus Chandra-yuti-Shani will normally find a titled position within a profession, ideally supported by a large and well-defended hierarchy.

In bhava-6: Some planned misalignments requiring realignment attention planned misalignments requiring realignment attention or maturation required before obtaining agreements in relationship to In-laws (8). Pressure on mental health/courage (3) and inner peace/prayer (12) due to a sense of scarcity of resources, most importantly not enough timer.

Self-medication/drug use and Oppression of Chandra:

Depending on condition of Venus, and of Ari and Vyaya bhava, trauma of emotional alienation may drive the Shani-afflicted to some type of numbing drug.

Drugs and alcohol are common tools of self-medication. But Saturn also guarantees excess responsibilities in the life."Workaholism" is just as common as alcoholism (or other drug addiction) as a way to numb the suffering.

It is important to note that the worst effects of any Shani-yuti-Chandra combination will manifest in the first 31 years of life . After the third Saturn Return at age 58-62 or so, these natives often become very wise!

With sufficient consciousness, and enjoying the benefit of age and experience, many Shani-afflicted will gradually adopt a common-sense approach of Reflective Awareness.

They learn to accept and appreciate that Healing Takes Time. As the urgency to fix the problem of emotional malnourishment begins to lessen after age 31, the native typically loses interest in changing reality. More often, one gains interest in skillfully managing the existing reality rather than trying to suddenly change it. (Of course, if Rahu is involved with Chandra, all bets are off.)

Indeed, shani-yuti-Chandra, after the typical emotional separation trauma of their youth, often become exemplary healers who guide others along the path to neutrality.

The"instant gratification" of drugs and alcohol is often replaced, over time, with neutrality and acceptance, personal responsibility and consciously reduced ego-membrane grandiosity.

Generally speaking, the emotional pain which results from Chandra's oppression by a malefic graha will recede with age .


Shani has fear-driven, materially enslaving, fiercely restricting, time-and-space bondage function in our lives. Shani has no patience for creativity, relaxation, reflection, poetry, or other emotional nourishing but anti-survival time-wasting behaviors. Shani is "all business ".

Shani may give excellent results on the material plane, building fine public-service careers and molding responsible personal character at every level of social achievement. However, he will give devastating emotional oppression on the psychic plane when he occupies the same house as the Moon.

Chandra represents first and foremost earth-human's Mother. Chandra connects us to the cosmological Great Mother in the big picture; and to earth-human's fleshly mother (or primary caretaker) in family life.

When Shani oppresses Chandra, the native is raised by a mother who for her own psychic reasons is compelled to prioritize her own and her child's social conformity above her own and her child's emotional nourishment. The child is taught that s/he will be emotionally accepted only if they produce good behavior. Their childlike needs will be met only when and if convenient to the adult.

These children may become super-achievers or self-justifying criminals, depending on the Shani-Chandra details. However, the ir emotional experience will always be of not trusting their divine purpose here on earth, and of not trusting that love is available to them by the grace of the divine. They tend to be reactive and fearful, desperately trying to act like little adults even when as children their feelings are so overwhelmingly strong.

In order to please their materialistic and emotionally unavailable mothers, children born with Shani-yuti-Somana must accept adult levels of responsibility very early in life. They may need to parent their own parent. They are often required to manage their childhood home - being alone or in charge of younger siblings while the mother works outside the home; preparing family meals at a tender age; or accepting very tight restrictions on their friendships and activities so that the stressed mother does not collapse from overextension.

Frequently their ego-development-path mandates very early childbirth for the Shani-Chandra native. Their own childhood experience of excessive responsibility along with incomplete emotional support repeated when they create their own children long before they have the educational or career skills to support that family. Having been raised to accept emotionally oppressive, physically demanding duties, they naturally seek out emotionally ill or immature partners who require more parenting than partnering.

Marriage may become a bitter experience.

Yet, subconsciously expecting that all lovers will resemble their incapable-of-unconditional-love mother, these natives will remain in emotionally starved, physically exhausting, socially non-reciprocal and even overtly abusive marriages for a long time in order to carry out the Shani-yuti-Chandra duty-over-happiness program.

Nevertheless, shani is the lord of disappointment and separation. When the bhukti of the radix 2nd/8th lord arrives during an empowered Shani transit, these natives often divorce. Typically, however, due to Chandra's survival instinct that says Keep Trying to Get the Love you Need, these natives remarry the same type of unsatisfying, unaccepting, oppressive spouse. The cycle may continue through numerous remarriages.

Yes, consciousness can resolve the dilemma

If either Shani or Chandra occupies their own, exalted, or mūlatrikoṇa positions, the individual may arrive - over time - at a higher awareness of their dilemma which permits a satisfactory resolution of the private-public conflict.

  • As always, an aspect from Jupiter will raise consciousness - because Guru brings forth the benefits of having been charitable to others in parallel lives .

  • But even in the worst case of Nishturabhashi Yoga where Shani conjuncts Somana with no improving aspect from Guru - the person may achieve resolution through faith and self-discipline, and the natural desire to heal.

As always, correct definition of the problem gives 90% of the solution. Awareness of pre-incarnationally planned structure and willingness to accept personal responsibility for one's emotional and social choices will very significantly empower a person to create the final 10% of the solution. The final 10% is basically

  • diligent monitoring of historic personal behaviors

  • integration of prayer and meditation into the personal lifestyle

  • neutral acceptance of the reality of human survival programming