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Surya occupies 8th-from-Chandra

  1. Surya-Mesha [uchcha]
  2. Surya-Urisha
  3. Surya-Mithunaya
  4. Surya-Karkata
  5. Surya-Simha [svakshetra] [mūlatrikoṇa if within 1-10 deg]
  6. Surya-Kanya
  7. Surya-Vanika [nīcha]
  8. Surya-Vṛścika
  9. Surya-Dhanus
  10. Surya-Makara-Draco
  11. Surya-Kumbha
  12. Surya-Meena

  1. Surya in bhava-1
  2. Surya in bhava-2
  3. Surya in bhava-3
  4. Surya in bhava-4
  5. Surya in bhava-5 [svabhava]
  6. Surya in bhava-6
  7. Surya in bhava-7
  8. Surya in bhava-8
  9. Surya in bhava-9
  10. Surya in bhava-10 [dik-bala]
  11. Surya in bhava-11
  12. Surya in bhava-12


OM grinih suryaya mamah

OM kram krim kraum sah bhaumaya namah


Professor Suraja

Arka * Ata


Agni * Aditya * Aja * Khaga

resides in



Bhava- 8

Sun * Sol * Saule * Soul

Utu * Aten * Aton * OM * On

Apollo * Paul

Aurya * Amon-Ra




the eighth house

mors * renatus

camouflaged bright center of the secrecy-drama

splendid placement for the politics of mysteries, emergencies, secret sources of power, hidden wealth, insurance, confidential information, identity-change, disaster-response, taxes

Revival * Rejuvenation * Recycling * Renovation * Rebirth


Durga Maa

Public Figures

Surya-Mesha [uchcha] [Vimala Yoga]

[retreating-contemplative vyaya-pati for Kanya indriya-lagna]

[Miraculous Recoveries] [radiant entitlement to camouflaged rebirth] [bright center of undisclosed conquesting power] [brilliant champion of hidden intelligence]

Surya-Urisha [friendly-gainful vriddhi-pati for Tula indriya-lagna] camouflaged bright center of pleasures and treasures


Surya-Mithunaya [dutiful-hierarchical karmesha for Vṛścika indriya-lagna] camouflaged bright center of commerce and conversation


Surya-Karkata [philosophical-doctrinal dharmesha for Dhanus-born] camouflaged bright center of shelter and home * father mysterious


[svakshetra] [mūlatrikoṇa if within 1-10 deg]

camouflaged bright center of games and drama

Surya-Kanya [contractual-bargaining jaya-pati for Kumbha indriya-lagna]

camouflaged bright center of service ministry

Surya-Vanika [nīcha] [Harsha Yoga]

[inimical-accusing rogesha for Meena-Antya indriya-lagna]

camouflaged bright center of diplomacy and grace

Surya-Vṛścika * camouflaged bright center of secrets and mysteries


[homebound-securing bandesha for Urisha indriya-lagna]

camouflaged bright center of theory and doctrine


[collaborative sahaja-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[bright focus of hierarchical secrecy] [confidently displays conventional camouflage] [center-stage roles in governance emergency] [class-conscious hidden-healing-exploring father]


  • Genesis 1951- songwriter drummer Phil Collins [Śrāvaṇa-3] ??


[conserving-acquiring dhana-pati for Karkata indriya lagna]

[bright center of secret systems] [intelligence for hidden economic linkage] [celebrated entitlement for camouflaged connections] [political focus on undislosed assets]


Surya-Meena [energizing-identifying lagnesha for Simha indriya-lagna]

[camouflaged center of reborn identity] [intelligence for crisis] [charismatic identity pushes transformative change] [mysteriously imagined father]


Seeks a central position within masked, occluded environments.

Radiates charismatic light from the brilliant center of mystery.

Admired hub personality within occult practice societies, secret knowledge holders, those who control confidential information, disaster-managers, financiers protecting hidden treasure, participants in covert relationships , managers of tax-shelters, medecins who perform surgeries, military strategists who conduct invasions, monitors of eruptions, deployers of poisons and purgatives; acts of brilliant but unexpected force.

Professor Surya in svabhava of Surya's close friend Mangala radiates moving, hot-blooded [Kuja] personal charisma[Surya] into mystical, transformative activities such as:

  • healing, surgery, disaster response, discovery and revelation , sudden disclosure, catastrophic change, trauma icon, tantric symbol or representative of occult knowledge, secret lifestyle

  • mysterious conditions, cycles of self-destruction and rebirth, rejuvenation, secret knowledge, confidential information

creative, center-stage

  • transformer, hider, detector, diver, pursuer of mysteries, investigator of the covered or forbidden

Surya's brilliant light permits one to see into the unknown, the secret, the mysterious, the esoteric, the masked, cloudy, reclusive, occluded and occult

One exists in the dramatic center of occult environments

Surya-8 shines a bright light into the realms of mystery, secrecy, sudden changes, covert operations, occult knowledge, confidential information, hidden money, inheritances and legacies, conditions of death, emergencies and disasters, eruptions and emergence, secret pleasures, healing transformations.

The partner's family (8) may contain flamboyant personalities such as dramatists, gamers, speculators, show-people, fashionista, politicians, or celebrities. The partner's family may express their entitlement to receive attention due to their sparkling charm.

Whether more specialized toward money, knowledge, or pleasure depends upon rashi, drishti, and co-tenants of bhava-8.

However, the luminaries (Surya, Chandra) born into bhava-8 may tend toward a shortened lifespan until there are lengthening effects from other graha-drishti into 8.

Longevity factors: Shani drishti into 8 *or* Shani in 8 yuti luminaries or Rahu-8 or Mangala-8

Surya is surprisingly happy in Kuja's svabhava (presuming the rashi is supportive) - yet Naturally, this

placement is not good for the father, .

Matters of Surya's temporal bhava may be destroyed

One finds a central position in the drama of shock-based behaviors , matters of catastrophic change, emergence of the hidden, disaster, destruction-and-rebirth, surgery, healing transformation, Revelation, Rebirth, and trauma.

Splendid position for those handling secret information which may have catastrophic consequences either for individuals or for the world

  • Political publicist 1966- Calista Gingrich knew about the hidden, illegal monies; said nothing (Shani-8 obligation to keep secrets)

Although the personal life is not easy, one may emerge into the world theatre as an agent of forced social transformation.

Surya-karaka in 8 = Father

Father holds a hidden position (8) and may be largely unknown to his society despite the possibility that father is performing important roles.

Whether father's reputation is positive or negative depends upon the 8th lord * randhresha, and its angle to Surya-in-8.

The father might perform hidden roles such as surgeon, confidential information manager, occult teacher, supervisor of hidden wealth, or various forms of secret or terrifying operations. He could be a professional dealing with terrorism, disaster, catastrophe, or emergency response. Surya, and thus the father, is powerful when well disposed in 8.

However, unlike the case of Professor Surya-9 where the father's beliefs and behaviors are brightly shown in the public domain, with Surya-8 the general public is likely unaware of the details of the father's activities. His public profile is mainly seen via lord of 8, the arudha of Surya lagna, and other measurements from Surya rather than directly seeing Surya-8.

Surya in dusthamsha (6, 8, 12) = often indicates a relatively brief lifetime for the father. Surya-8 may point to circumstances of shell-death involving insurance or inheritance or hidden operations; perhaps a revolutionary or agent of catastrophe

The father may lack self-confidence to act honestly and visibly, resorting to intimidation or bullying rather than straightforward role-modeling. Particularly a father-figure can be weak if there is an additional draining of Surya's light such as randhresha-8 in the 12th from 8.

  • Top Gun 1962- drama-commerce Tom Cruise has referred to his father as a "merchant of chaos " ,"a bully and a coward". Mr. Cruise reports having been regularly beaten by his abusive father until age 12, when his mother left the marriage and took the children with her. Typically of a randhresha-8 in 7 yuti Mangala, Cruise's father died prematurely (of cancer) at his son's age 22.

To have Ravi's portfolio radically, even catastrophically, destroyed during the lifetime is indeed a good thing for Meena indriya-lagna where Surya is rogesha-6 and for Kanya indriya-lagna where Surya activates bhava-12.

For Meena indriya-lagna and Kanya lagna = Viparita Raja Yoga . Surya in randhra-sthana = a boost up - especially for Kanya lagna where major obstacles from Ari-sthana, such as enemies, debts, and disease, are neatly destroyed.

For other lagna except Meena and Kanya, results = mixed. Prevents the karaka traits of Professor Surya from manifesting; exempli gratia, destroys fame, dampens self-confidence, reduces leadership power and harms the self-image. Does not disturb wealth, favors legacy and inheritance. Helps professions in healing arts and secret traditions, helps attorneys managing the affairs of the dead, and all involved in occult or tantra.

One seeks praise and recognition as a Revealer.

Surya-8 = secret knowledge of mysteries and shamanic tools of death-and-rebirth cycles of destruction.

One may become most famous [Surya] for matters connected to the Conditions of death .

Conditions of Dematerialization

The flesh body is killed by agency of the rashi governing bhava-8, drishti to bhava-8, and by karaka Surya:

  • by the father

  • by the king or the royal court

  • by males (such as brother, husband, boss)

  • by the heart

  • by the spine

  • by arrogance or self-centralizing authority

  • sudden burst of extremely bright light

  • by over-exposure physically to light or heat - or socially, via over-attention, over-celebrity

by brightness, dryness, warmth

by afflictions of overheating to the eyes, heart, or spine

Surya-8 = professionally concerned with hidden or confidential matters; surgeries and emergencies; mysterious, occult, or clandestine environments in which secret assets are collected (including valuable secret knowledge).

Professor Surya teaching in classroom-8 generally knows a great deal more than might appear at the surface.

Ego-identity in public life = reduced, or becomes problematic, as Surya the Bright Light of Truth must shine out from the house of hidden forces and catastrophic change.

As the native hides oneself from public view. Depending on the bhava that is owned by Professor Surya, the native could be powerful socially, but one's involvement in powerful activities is largely veiled.

Surya-8 does not wish to be ego-identified with the confidential or occult materials that one is indeed handling. Ethical conflict caused by secrecy or ego-association with mysterious knowledge may result in moral crisis. Matters of Surya's house are obscured.

  • Causes and conditions of death are related to the randhresha-8 and to Surya, including Heat and Heart.

Atma-karaka in bhava-8 = similar to Surya in bhava-08

Ravi is at home n Kuja's Bhava-8, despite the less favorable prognosis for the father or patron-guru.

Surya in bhava-08 indicates a high calling in one of the healing arts, surgery, midwifery, disaster response, investigating detective, or secret finance.

However, the native 's activities may never reach public visibility. Even the portion of their dealings which is known to the public may be small like the tip of an iceberg. One may be working in the service of shrouded interests, able to reveal only a little of what one knows.

One is called to bring secret information, tantric arts buried in the dust of ages, and above all healing energies to the surface of human conscious through philosophical reasoning.

Excellent therapists are found with this position, as well as investigators into negative levels of secrecy such as criminal corruption.

Surya-8 may bear sole responsibility for making high-impact judgments and decisions using their own intelligence. Their choice may affect the life of individuals, or the future of nations.

  • Longevity: slightly reduced overall.

  • Circumstances of Death: sudden , in a hot place or on a hot day (more hot if a hot rashi), likely environment is mountainous; cause also may be internal heat e.g., fever . Depends significantly on the randhresha-8 .

  • In-Laws: high confidence in dealing with the spouse's family. Normally the native has the strongest personality in the extended family group. Not intimidated by relatives.

  • Inheritance and Insurance settlements: depends on the randhresha-8 , but Surya tends to burn up whatever is happening in the house Ravi occupies. Inheritance if any is much smaller than one's own earnings.

  • Taxes: not a burden. Often avoided completely.

  • Access to Secret Knowledge: Advanced capabilities, broad access to hidden information. May need to make executive decisions on potentially catastrophic events.

  • Healing Skills: capability for helping others to make important and difficult decisions, ability to reason effectively, even with limited information

  • Catastrophic Changes: subject to massive changes in the social identity, depending on randhresha-8

  • Joint Assets of Marriage: the native and the spouse may contribute successfully to affluence hoard in marriage. Presuming Surya is strong, Native holds a positive belief predisposition to build financial security for the marriage.

  • Divorce Settlement: "burned up" Extramarital options are available and often utilized for ego-enhancement purposes, but divorce is uncommon with Surya/8.

    Father has some covert dealings which may harm his career. If Surya is weak, Father may be secretive, unethical, moody, or even abusive.


QUOTATION from Das / Behari

commentary upon Surya occupies bhava- 8

"In general, the Sun in this house makes you lean and thin, mentally obtuse, disliked and abandoned by relations.

But if the zodiacal sign is supportive, the solar influence here may lead to much interest in spirituality or the process of initiation .

The Sun of the 8th house is mostly malefic, as it is posited in a bad house.

This house denotes wills, legacies, chronic diseases, loss of wealth, extravagance, suits and quarrels, death, co-workers and occult matters.

  • Planets occupying this house incline to an interest in occult science;

    if without a planet, life runs on conventional lines till the ruler receives strong aspects.

You are a crafty impostor and lewd. Life is hard and difficult.

Travels widely and associates with low class persons, eats unscrupulously, squanders away wealth and by thefts.

  • Secret vice brings infectious diseases and poor health.

  • Neither can you make others' life happy; nor, your own; sudden death.

You are handsome, but indolent, prodigal, spend-thrift, suffer from piles; adulterous; travels wide and is quarrelsome.

Absence of offspring [BPL: not true if Guru drishti Moon] weak sight, wealthy but violent, sick and hard working.

You are neither rich nor happy. Early death; and more so, at the loss of some dear one.

Generally you are less wise, short-tempered and of poor mental and physical health. These are the disqualifications for a successful and happy life.

You are fickle-minded but generous

  • -ready to serve the wise and learned;

  • sick and talkative, unlucky.

  • Characterless, prudent, long-lived, serves the low caste,

  • little happiness from sons, suffers from eye troubles,

  • gets a wound or boil on the head during the 10th year.

Note: With the Sun in the 8th house,

  • you will always undergo miseries,

  • will establish relationships with persons of foreign origin,

  • will lose wealth in thefts,

  • will face severe and secretive dangers,

  • will have a beautiful physique akin to that of (waxing) moon,

  • will incur financial danger from all sides,

  • weak sight and physical distress,

  • will contract incurable venereal diseases,

  • will always fight with others,

  • will have few friends and will have some wealth,

  • will not be steady in the career,

  • will have limited progeny but be a skillful astrologer."


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