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Brihaspati occupies 8th-from-Chandra

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OM graam greem graum sah gurve namah

Professor Guru




resides in



Bhava 8



Dio-petous * Dies Pater* De-us

Ze-us * Xenios

Enlil * Marduk


Iuppiter * Jove



the eighth house

mors * renatus

multiple sources of hidden treasure

many identity transformations

much knowledge of occult process

multiple surgeries or penetrating inquiries

many helpful members of the partner's family

growth and expansion of the marital monies


Sunset in Antalya, Turkia

Public Figures



[Guru-Urisha] * [Harsha Yoga]


Guru-Karkata [uchcha] [energizing-identifying lagnesha for Dhanus-Haya indriya-lagna] [rhythmic bandesha for Dhanus-Haya indriya-lagna]


Guru-Simha [Vimala Yoga}



[energizing-identifying lagnesha for Meena-Antya indriya-lagna] [dutiful-commanding karmesha for Meena-Antya indriya-lagna]

[multiple negotiated diplomatic secrets] [many diverse public identity-changes] [wide scope of hidden brokered arrangements]


Guru-Vrishchika * [Vimala Yoga]

Guru-Dhanus [svakshetra]

[mysterious-revealing randhresha for Urisha indriya-lagna] [friendly-gainful vriddhi-pati for Urisha indriya-lagna]


[nīcha] [rules 7 + 10]

[bargaining-partnering jaya-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna] [dutiful-hierarchical karmesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[misguidedly permissive identity-renewals]

[numerous optimistically corrupt initiations] [healing transformations guided by materialistic ideology]

[pragmatic philosophy of intervention][falsely cheerful in emergencies] [class-conscious understanding of revolutionary change]

[hidden operatives may provide misleading guidance] [husband may be a misunderstood secret-keeper]

[Guru-Kumbha] [Harsha Yoga]

[inimical-accusing rogesha for Karkata indriya-lagna] [philosophical-doctrinal dharmesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

Guru-Meena [svakshetra]


Melinda French Gates

svabhava of friendly Mangala

  • multiple sources of hidden treasure

  • many rebirths and identity transformations

  • much knowledge of occult process

  • multiple surgeries or penetrating inquiries

  • many helpful contributions from the partner's family

  • growth and expansion of the marital monies

A Golden Opportunity

Randhra = an opening, a window, a port.

Guru = a golden, auspicious guide.

In bhava-8, Guru delivers a Golden Opportunity which may be veiled, covered or disguised behind the appearance of surprising upheaval and sudden changes, conditions of death, unexpected divorce or death of partner, shock and trauma, forced separations, fears,

  • Moonies 1920-2012 Rev. Sun Myung Moon * Guru-[uchcha] 8. Under the tax-free guise of religious tithing, Moon collected millions of dollars of "love donations" from his devoted believers. Investing this substantial [Guru] capital in profitable commercial businesses, SMM generated a luxury lifestyle for himself and his family. His children [Guru], rather than his church, inherited (8 inheritance) ownership of these companies.

Many unexpected situations

Many changes of identity

Benefits from disaster

  • USA-Gov-FL 1953- real-estate Jeb Bush * Guru-8 parivartamsha Mangala-7 * during a relentless series of deadly and property-destroying hurricanes, JEB served eight years as governor of Florida 1998-2006. However, he was personally unharmed, and overall his own real-estate investments benefited from disaster recovery funding.

A magnificent graha in bhava-8 = a magnificent mask, glowing with philosophical excellence and truth

  • Moonies 1920-2012 Rev. Sun Myung Moon [uchcha] Guru-8 activates 4-diploma. Ruled by Bharani Somana-yuti-Ketu -5 games, charisma, genius. Although his academic credentials ended with a high-school diploma, Rev. Moon often represented himself as a graduate of the prestigious Waseda University in Japan. In fact, during the period of Japan's occupation of Korea, he had briefly registered at a trade school located "nearby" Waseda campus, and over time the temptation of the inference grew (Guru growth) into a claim that the True Father was held an elite university diploma. A shrewd liar (Mula nativity) Moon did not overplay the deception, but also he did not correct it.

wifely-companion's partner = Guru dhavakaraka

Often, the wifely-companion meets her life partner in a secretive but privileged setting. The partner's identification with confidential information is important to her, and the partner's hidden assets, secret knowledge, or inherited wealth - or perhaps tantric or alchemical skills - may form the basis of the union.

  • First marriage for wifely-companion characterized by secrecy and mysterious sources of wealth.

  • There is hidden money, confidential investments, and an aura of don't-ask-don't-tell in the husband's behavior.

The marital partner does things his own way, which may be a hidden way. Spouse may be involved in tax evasion or mate may have significant inherited family money. Adjusted up or down, depending upon graha yuti Guru within bhava-8.

Regardless of the external conditions of the union, the wifely-companion is likely to retain a respect for the power of secret knowledge, and a belief in its importance in her life.

In a masculine nativity, broad permission to conduct extramarital relations with almost no restriction, and few scandalous social consequences.

  • Moonies 1920-2012 Rev. Sun Myung Moon enjoyed a legendary number of sexual partners in addition to his four legal marriages. Guru-[uchcha] 8 = lagnesha for a Mula nativity. His previous marriages, the love children, and his lifelong pattern of extraordinary promiscuity were effectively masked behind a golden veil of priesthood conferred upon the True Father.

A permissive and generous spouse. Less benevolent for Guru-Karkata or Guru-Urisha indriya-lagna (because Guru becomes rogesha-6 or randhresha-8 , never beneficial in the marriage bhava.)

Spouse = large-bodied, friendly and optimistic (so long as Guru's rashi is favorable) and often a teacher.

Spouse = religious-natured. Dogmatically religious perhaps in an uncomfortable rashi, but spouse exhibits a compassionate intent.

Good for global businesses especially related to education or children, and for trading in books and sacred items.

Capital reserves (2) and owned-stewarded property (4) increases after marriage because Guru casts drishti upon 2 and 4. The family of the spouse (8 = 2nd from 7th) brings theoretical understanding, wisdom and fortune into the marriage.

On the down side, the spouse's jovial self-entitlement can be so expansive that less attention is given to developing the private relationship of marriage; the native may feel neglected if the spouse is too concerned with humanistic activities or ritual.

For a wifely-companion, benefits of hidden alliances

Brihaspati = karaka for the male partner or husbandly-companion. When Guru occupies bhava-8 of a feminine nativity, associations with male partners may be veiled in secrecy. The husband is often involved in tax-sheltered assets or management of occult treasuries.

If Guru is comfortably placed, there is a good deal of secret wealth, both financial well-being and treasuries of knowledge, that may emerge from these mysterious relationships. Guru is welcome in a svabhava of Mangala. If Guru also enjoys a hospitable rashi, the male partner's family may be quite financially privileged, and should the lifescript feature a post-marital settlement such as alimony that settlement will be generous.

For both the husbandly-companion and the wifely-companion , there are subtle benefits to Guru in bhava-8. Although children are less predicted, even while matters of Benevolent Brihaspati's two rashi bhava are drawn into a cycle of sudden, forced changes, one may enjoy providential wealth from unnamed sources.

One is privy to covert, confidential, unknown-source, or secret knowledge, which one may use for the enjoyment of life at all levels.

Putra-karaka in bhava-8 = less favorable for children, but not impossible. All factors must be considered before issuing an opinion when Guru-8 nativities inquire about future children.

dematerialization is attended with ritual ceremonial honors, attended with wisdom. If Guru's lord is favorable, death is attended by the high priest giving valuable ritual support to the transition.

Shani in bhava-8 or Shani drishti to randhrabhava may damage or delay your inheritance, even while this drishti extends your lifespan.

Many secrets and hidden activities.

Guru-Meena in bhava-8

Guru-Meena in bhava-8 travels frequently across that dangerous tantric bridge between the material realm and the astral realm.

Due to ever-increasing encounters with the Conditions of dematerialization (8) usually quite conscious and supported by spiritual guidance one may be called back to astral life rather early in the incarnation.

QUOTATION Behari commentary upon radix Guru-Urisha -8

"You may have a contradictory character.

  • Behind a veil of respectability your sexual curiosity and desire to enjoy the pleasures of life will be strong, though you will feel guilt in satisfying those desires.

  • You will not enjoy a happy home life and, though you sometimes seem to be a great moralist, your life has not grown in a balanced way.

You will be sickly but long-lived."

QUOTATION -- BPHS Ch. 80, shloka 30-33

"If in a female's horoscope Jupiter be in the 8th ,

  • the woman concerned will be shameless and without virtue,

  • will have few children,

  • fatty hands and feet,

  • will be abandoned by her husband ,

and will be gluttonous."

QUOTATION Das / Bepin Behari comments on Guru in bhava-8

"... a filter which permits past religious impulses to manifest only in terms of traditional belief systems.

... becomes learned, industrious, interested in the scriptural knowledge of your tradition and the higher values of life;

you practice severe penance

  • as well as arduous rituals.

Nonetheless, the desire for sexual union drives you to marriage,

  • possibly with widowed partners, or with "religious " people.

The spouse may come from a religious concern.

  • Fame and prosperity. ... imprisonment due to strife.

  • Patrimony or legacy.

  • occultism, dream psychology.
  • Also, peaceful and natural death .

Without patrimony, fortune, effluence, happiness, wealth.

  • Always feeling sickly.

  • Does not live long in the house of the father.

Your residence and body are not stable and stationary for long.

  • Always ailing.

  • Life hereafter is in heaven.

Has longevity;

but impaired health.

Maintains the family traditions and culture. Steady and well-formed.

you are average and low, servile, gloomy, irrational, immodest, inert and lean.

  • Miser, friendless, slighted.

You visit the best pilgrim places;

fickle; void of spouses and wealth. Intelligent. Imprisonment may occur, or the feeling of it."


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