Psycho-emotional and social-Material
by Rashi Karaka of
Ayur-daya * Randhra-sthana
mors * renatus
mors * renatus
conditions in the eighth house
"The word "death" does not mean dissolution of the body. It means being cut off from truth and this is far worse for a human being than physical death.
Man is born with the seed of his own destruction within him, and until he becomes consciously aware of the vaster side of himself, he will continue to sow and reap the results of this seed.
The basic nature of this seed is Fear of the Unknown."
The Magic Bag Lingford's introduction to Yada at teachers-of-light.com
Vrizchika = bhava-8
POTUS-25 Gold Standard 1843-1901 William McKinley
My Inventions 1856-1943 Nikola Tesla
VPOTUS Military Weapons Contracts 1941- Dick Cheney
Russ-Empress 1729-1796 Noble Maidens Catherine the Great
"Should the rashi or navamsha ... be Mesha
fleshdeath will be caused by fever, poison, defects of digestive fire and bile .
The humour causing fleshdeath be will according to the planet joining or aspecting. "
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 5
Russ-Empress 1729-1796 Noble Maidens Catherine the Great died of a stroke (cerebral hemorrhage) at home while reading the newspaper (C age 67)
POTUS-25 Gold Standard 1843-1901 William McKinley 14-Sept-1901 tragi decease * died of septic infection due to physician unsterile fingers, after assassination bullet (WM age 58) * Shani-Zukra bhukti * Zukra maraka rules 2+-7
Dhanuzya = bhava-8
"Should such a [the 8th] rashi/navamsha be Vrishabha-Urisha,
fleshdeath will be due to the three humours, weapons, thirst, etc.
This is so when the rashi/navamsha above is not occupied by any planet.
If occupied, the humour of the planet concerned will prevail."
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 6
Mithunaya lagna * Makara = bhava-8
Germinal 1840-1902 J'accuse Emile Zola
The Tower 1865-1939 William Butler Yeats
NASCAR 1951-2001 motorsports Dale Earnhardt
A Room of One's Own 1882-1941 Bloomsbury Virginia Woolf
Seven-Year Itch 1926-1962 Marilyn Monroe
Cleopatra 1932-2011 AIDS activist Elizabeth Taylor
"Should it be Mithuna rashi or navamsha, death will be due to cough, breathing troubles, diseases generated by heat, colic, etc.
The rashi or the navamsha of the Moon indicates death due to rheumatic pains, mental affliction, diarrhea, etc."
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 7
Karkata lagna * Kumbha = bhava-8
Louisiana-Gov 1893-1935 Kingfish Huey P. Long
Cuba-Dictator 1926-2016 Fidel Castro
Simha lagna * Meena = bhava-8
Duino Elegies 1875-1926 poet novelist Rainer Maria Rilke
Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda
Raja Yoga 1863-1902 Swami Vivekananda
France-Emperor 1769-1821 Wars Napoleon Bonaparte
Imagine 1940-1980 Beatle John Lennon
Publisher 1960-1999 attorney JFK-Jr
Christian Science 1821-1910 Mary Baker Eddy (age 89)
D'eux 1968- balladeer Celine Dion
"Should the rashi or navamsha be Simha-Leya, fleshdeath will be through tumor, poison, weapon etc. or fever."
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 8
France-Emperor 1769-1821 Wars Napoleon Bonaparte * died age 51 of stomach cancer (his father had also died age 38 of stomach cancer)
Duino Elegies 1875-1926 poet novelist Rainer Maria Rilke * decease age 51, leukemia
Publisher 1960-1999 attorney JFK-Jr decease age 38 when the small aircraft he was piloting crashed into the Atlantic ocean; his wife and his wife's sister were his passengers; they also died in the crash
Raja Yoga 1863-1902 Swami Vivekananda died age 39 from complications of diabetes, asthma, and chronic insomnia
Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda died age 59 of undetermined natural causes
Christian Science 1821-1910 Mary Baker Eddy (age 89) of undetermined natural causes
for Kanya radical lagna, bhava-8 = Mesha weapons, heat, fire, invasive metal
animator entrepreneur Walt Disney
Flowers of Evil 1821-1867 symbolist poet Charles Baudelaire
Twilight of the Idols 1844-1900 Ubermensch Friedrich Nietzsche
Totem and Taboo 1856-1939 psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud
Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler
France-Pres 1890-1970 Mémoires de Guerre Charles de Gaulle
Sound and Fury 1897-1962 novelist William Faulkner
Wizard of Oz 1922-1969 entertainer Judy Garland
Pakistan-PM 1953-2007 Benazir Bhutto
Vrishabha = bhava-8 *
Telepathy 1880-1949 esoterica Alice Bailey (age 69)
UK-PM Path to Power 1925-2013 Margaret Thatcher (age 87)
Yogaville 1914-2002 Swami Satchidananda
existentialist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre
Apple Computer 1955-2011 Steve Jobs
Vrizchika radical lagna* Mithunaya = bhava-8
UK Queen 1819-1901 Empress Victoria-1
On Golden Pond 1937- drama-fitness Jane Fonda
POTUS-29 Teapot Dome 1865-1923 Warren G. Harding
Satyagraha 1869-1948 Mahatma Mohandas Gandhi
Egypt-Sudan King 1920-1965 Faruq al-Awwal
Easy Rider 1936-2010 painter Dennis Hopper
Karkata = bhava-8 *
POTUS-40 American Life 1911-2004 Ronald Reagan (age 93)
TM 1917-2008 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
My Sweet Lord 1943-2001 Beatle George Harrison
Total Surrender 1910-1997 Mother Teresa of Kolkata
POTUS-pair-32 Learn by Living 1884-1962 Eleanor Roosevelt
Violet Flame 1939-2009 Elizabeth Clare Prophet(age 70)
Total Surrender 1910-1997 Mother Teresa of Kolkata died after a long period of suffering from shortness of breath related to heart congestion, died of heart failure at age 87
POTUS-40 American Life 1911-2004 Ronald Reagan died at age-93 after enduring a 15-year descent into Alzheimer's brain disease * randhresha = Chandra-5 + Shani + Rahu
TM 1917-2008 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi died in his mid-90's of natural causes
My Sweet Lord 1943-2001 Beatle George Harrison died (GH age 58) of brain cancer which had spread from his lungs. Lifelong addiction to cigarette smoking. His mother had died of brain cancer as well.
Violet Flame 1939-2009 Elizabeth Clare Prophet (Alzheimer's Disease, age 70)
Makara radical lagna * bhava-8 = Simha
Secret Doctrine 1831-1891 Theosophy Helena Blavatsky (HPB age 59)
Knowledge of Higher Worlds 1861-1925 Rudolf Steiner (age 64)
Theory of Relativity 1879-1955 Physics Albert Einstein
Iran-Shah 1919-1980 Aryamehr M. Reza Pahlavi (age 60)
POTUS-16 Emancipation 1809-1865 Abraham Lincoln
POTUS-37 Watergate 1913-1994 Richard Nixon (age 81)
Kanya = bhava-8 *
Das Kapital 1818-1883 economics Karl Marx
Memories Dreams Reflections 1875-1961 Carl Jung (age 85)
The Mirror 1895-1986 theosophy Jiddu Krishnamurti (age 90)
Kanya in such case will cause fleshdeath through defect in digestive fire or private parts, disputes, or fall.
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 9
Meena radical lagna* bhava-8 = Thula
POTUS-01 American Revolution 1732-1799 George Washington
Way to Wealth 1706-1790 printer ambassador Benjamin Franklin
Raag Khamaj 1920-2012 sitarist Ravi Shankar
~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 11
Conditions of fleshdeath may be known from bhava-8 or from 8th-from-8th = bhava-3
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth= inherently self-referential .
One has a sense of One's own importance at the time of release. Fleshdeath warnings are self-generated; one may announce the fleshdeath oneself. One has confidence in the moment; one expects to be recognized on the other side.
Fleshdeath in a hot place. Fiery heat may be internal (fever) or external (air temperature).
If Surya occupies one of his favorite hot, arid rashi (Mesha, Simha) fleshdeath may be in the high mountains, in conditions of bright light.
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is the father, a political colleague, or astral voice of divine intelligence.
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = emotionally engaged. the native has strong feelings at the time of fleshdeath, for better or for worse.
Fleshdeath warnings are known within the family or circle of intimates * fleshdeath is often an expression of emotional caring.
Fleshdeath in watery circumstances, usually some form of drowning. Cooling water can be inside the body (pneumonia, oedema, swelling) or outside the body (ocean, lake, river).
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) = a parent, family member, countryman, or guardian of one's cultural roots tradition.
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = fast and hard, with no warning.
Fleshdeath by acute injury (internal or external) or blunt-force trauma.
Sudden, forced, or"accidental" circumstances. Trauma can be internal (heart attack) or external.
Body part most acutely affected will be indicated by the rashi, e.g., Mithuna = lungs, arms; Simha = heart; Kumbha = nervous system, skin
Kuja-Karkata * nichha
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a huntsman, military officer, athlete, marksman/shooter, physician-surgeon, psychiatrist, detective or secret agent.
Mangala drishti into 8 suggests that fleshdeath is swift and the native is moving through space (such as riding a horse or in a vehicle, or while walking, running, or jumping) at the time of fleshly fleshdeath
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Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = mentally agitated or conversational Fleshdeath warnings are heard inside one's own head but one might not convey this secret information.
Must be supported by Shani, Mangala or Rahu to increase the longevity. Otherwise, a briefer incarnation is forecast.
Fleshdeath in conversation, or as the result of talking when one ought to be doing something else.
If Budha is less benevolent, fleshdeath by negative thoughts. the native is involved in conversation with astral beings who guide the transition process. If Budha rules moksha houses, this can be a good situation.
Surrounded by siblings and close friends.
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a close friend or sibling, who lets the native know that it's OK to go -- the conversation will continue in dream space.
swabhava of Guru's friend Mangala
Guru in bhava-8 * much secrecy * many sudden changes * many confidences * multiple trauma events * numerous identity transformations * abundant initiation * generous in-llaws * extensive hidden assets * expansion of undisclosed activities * abundance of initiations * many mysteries * generation of sudden transformation * hidden teachers * believes in successful surgeries and invasive healing
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = wise and forgiving, generous and abundant to the heirs.
Fleshdeath in circumstances of religious wisdom, general optimism, and abundance. Presence of one's children at the time of fleshdeath. (Not all of the children necessarily, but at least one of the children will be present.)
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a priest, one's father, a child, or religious belief. For a woman, the agent may be her first husband.
Fleshdeath caused by over-doing abundance in some sense; this is often a very positive sense of freedom and liberation. One dies in a state of consciousness that one's current destiny has been fulfilled.
If randhresha-8 with Shani one has satisfactorily completed an extensive list of duties, and is (rather suddenly, it seems free to go.
If with Kuja, opportunity for rapid transformations
Zukra-8 * Discoveries, Mysteries
swabhava of Shukra's neutral Mangala
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = sweet and pleasurable, favoring several marriages and harmonious partnerships
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass through the veil) is a sweet one, usually a lover or partner who shares in one's wealth.
If Zukraoccupies a hospitable rashi, Zukra-8 = Fleshdeath in the company of those beloved. Sweet or pleasure-addiction agency. The instrumental cause = often something put in the mouth.
In Vrishabha, can be luxurious circumstances. Attendants make the native comfortable during the passage through the corridor of veils.
Challenge to craft a balance for first marriage. The marital spouse may have previous or additional partners; for a male the first wife may have been widowed or divorced. Generally seeking a transformative experience via partnerships with feminine figures.
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = inexorably slow and lawful, favoring hard work and antiquity, with regular warnings about scarcity and survival.
Barring interference and adjustment caused by graha-yuti or incoming drishti, Shani in 8 indicates a remarkably long life
one may often wish to make one's final return to the astral identity, but material obligations force a sustained commitment to complete the Earth-based task list. However graha yuti Shani or casting drishti upon can change this prognosis completely, so that circumstances of fleshdeath are realized rather earlier in the incarnation.
Fleshdeath ultimately caused by hard work and enforced by the laws of time and space.
Whether Shani enforces an extended tour of duty or whether other graha cut short the native 's longevity, the main cause of fleshdeath is exhaustion from Overwork and worry.
One may die in the workplace or while expending lawful effort . For most people, the life's main workplace is the home or the agricultural lands surrounding the home.
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a law enforcer, a task-master, or Father Time. In case of Shani one may feel that there is additional work to be done on Earth, but the grim reaper says "It's Time to Go."
Cause of fleshdeath (esp. if Shani = rogesha-6 ) may = lingering but often undetected or masked illness, a chronic exhausting condition which the native hides from others in order to complete one's work without interruption.
For a woman, Shani represents the second husband. In bhava-8, Shani as a fleshdeath agent suggests that one psycho-social cause of fleshdeath may be exhaustion from stress of divorce or impending divorce.
If outside the customary workplace, the native will nevertheless be engaged in work-related tasks such as planning and communicating about work tasks, or even dreaming about one's work.
Rahu-Urisha * uttama
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = caused by something traveling outside its accustomed area, breaking boundaries (aneurysm, stroke). Erratic warnings. one may have a desire to experience the conditions of fleshdeath.
Pretentious Professor Rahu in 8 indicates a fleshdeath from accumulated effects passionate desires. Rahu is not a Maraka unless His ruler is a Maraka. Normally Rahu-8 indicates extended longevity due to a continuous desire to experience more desires.
The liberating agent of fleshdeath, who gives final permission to pass over, is typically signified by Rahu's ruler .
Throughout life, native risks one's longevity in tantric or secretive undertakings. However, the physical life span will not be harmed unless some other graha supports Rahu'
In Mesha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of war and competition . Rahu shows a fleshdeath that is celebrated due to native's heroic personality.
In Vrishabha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of beauty and treasury.
In Mithunaya, a remarkable communicator and coupler, who can chat up just about anyone with engaging conversation for opportunistic revolutionary purposes.
Rahu-8 may produce a fleshdeath that is celebrated due to native's desire-driven personality.
In Simha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of political power and divine truth. Eventually this passion takes its toll on the heart of the physical body.
In Makara, Rahu has a great desire to know the secret structures of life
Eventually this passion takes its toll on the bones of the physical body.
In Kumbha, Rahu gives a great desire to know the secret connections between human bodies and the electrical network of conceptual thoughts. Eventually this passion takes its toll on the nerves of the physical body.
In Meena, passion for secrets.
Rahu gives a great desire to know the secret pathways which connect waking life to the dream state; and ways to establish intuitive connections between people who do not speak the same verbal language Eventually this passion takes its toll on the emotions, the feet, and the lymph system of the physical body.
Turning of the cycle of birth, fleshdeath, and rebirth = caused by withdrawal, apathy, disengagement, disinterest.
One leaves the body when in a medical coma or in samadhi; in a highly detached state of mind.
The conditions of fleshdeath remain mysterious; those still living rarely understand what materially stimulated the fleshdeath.
There is no fear of fleshdeath as Ketu-8 scatters awareness (Ketu) of the turnings of the cycle of self-destruction and rebirth (8).
The circumstances of fleshdeath may be violent Mangala
or harsh Shani or Surya
or comfortably numb - perhaps in a coma = Shukra, Guru
or a bit emotional Chandra
Or rather talkative
But whatever the external environment, the native is quite unconcerned with the consequences of one's separation from the physical body.
Agent of fleshdeath (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is typically an astral personality (someone not in human form) whose identity is indicated by the bhava and rashi of Ketu's lord.
Typically one enjoys a clairvoyant prescience regarding the coming of fleshdeath, its ways and means, and larger cosmic context.
the native is psychologically disengaged from the body in advance of the physical separation. A certain numbness or deep resignation to the inevitability of fleshdeath is the dominant experience during the time of the Turning of the cycle of birth and fleshdeath.
|Fleshdeath of First Spouse||
2nd-from any bhava indicates the Sensual saturation, completion, decease of the mineral body, or it is done regarding matters of that bhava.
While the stronger timing agents are typically
Earthbody-Exit of husband example
Earthbody-Exit of wife example
Commonly in long-life, divorce-tolerant cultures of the West, randhrabhava-8 profiles the emotional termination of the first marriage itself rather than the physical fleshdeath of the first spouse.
Timing of divorce may correspond to periods of rogesha-6 (12th-from-7th for dissolution of the legal contract) or periods of chidra-karaka Ketu, but the emotional effects of a divorce which give"virtual widowhood"as if the spouse were flesh-dead, can be seen through bhava-8.
Genuine fleshdeath of the first spouse is certainly seen in bhava-8, or alternately in 2nd-from-Zukra.
When Does Consciousness Enter the Physical Birth?
from Consciousness at the Crossroads: Conversations with the Dalai Lama on Brain Science and Buddhism edited by Zara Houshmand, Robert B. Livingston, and B. Alan Wallace
from Consciousness at the Crossroads: Conversations with the Dalai Lama on Brain Science and Buddhism
edited by Zara Houshmand, Robert B. Livingston, and B. Alan Wallace
"On some occasions, people faint. Even when your breath temporarily stops, during that moment, there is a reduced level of consciousness. Consciousness is most reduced late in the course of dying.
Even after all physical functions cease, we believe that the"I," or"self," still exists. Similarly, just at the beginning of life, there must be a subtle form of consciousness to account for the emergence of consciousness in the individual. We must explore further the point at which consciousness enters into a physical location. At conception, the moment when and the site where consciousness interacts with the fertilized egg is something to be discovered, although there are some reference to this in the texts.... The Buddhist scriptures do deal with it, but I am interested to see what science has to say about this. During this period we believe that without the subtle consciousness, there would be a life beginning without consciousness. If that were the case then no one could ever recollect experiences from their parallel life . It is also in terms of Buddhist beliefs relating to this topic that Buddhism expounds its theory of cosmology: how the universe began and how it later degenerates. Based on this metaphysical reasoning and other arguments, and based on the testimony of individuals who are able to recollect their experiences in parallel lives very vividly, Buddhists make this claim. I am a practitioner, so based on my own limited experiences, and the experiences of my friends, I cannot say with one hundred percent certainty that there is a subtle consciousness. Scientists don't posit consciousness in the same sense that Buddhists do. At the moment of conception, however, there has to be something that prevents the sperm and egg from simply rotting, and causes it to grow into a human body. When does that occur? Why does that occur?"
We must explore further the point at which consciousness enters into a physical location.
At conception, the moment when and the site where consciousness interacts with the fertilized egg is something to be discovered, although there are some reference to this in the texts....
The Buddhist scriptures do deal with it, but I am interested to see what science has to say about this.
During this period we believe that without the subtle consciousness, there would be a life beginning without consciousness. If that were the case then no one could ever recollect experiences from their parallel life .
It is also in terms of Buddhist beliefs relating to this topic that Buddhism expounds its theory of cosmology: how the universe began and how it later degenerates.
Based on this metaphysical reasoning and other arguments, and based on the testimony of individuals who are able to recollect their experiences in parallel lives very vividly, Buddhists make this claim. I am a practitioner, so based on my own limited experiences, and the experiences of my friends, I cannot say with one hundred percent certainty that there is a subtle consciousness.
Scientists don't posit consciousness in the same sense that Buddhists do. At the moment of conception, however, there has to be something that prevents the sperm and egg from simply rotting, and causes it to grow into a human body.
When does that occur?
Why does that occur?"
14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso (2003).
The Compassionate Life .
"As a basis for change, we need to recognize that as long as we live in this world we will encounter problems, things that obstruct the fulfillment of our goals.
By remembering the suffering of others, by feeling compassion for others, our own suffering becomes manageable.
As a result, our own serenity and inner strength will increase."
Fort de Soto State Park, Florida
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