Ruler of 5th-from-Chandra
in the Twelve Bhava
role of the putra pathi
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-1
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-1
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-1
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-1
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-1
Everyone has some type of dramatic performance intelligence. Wherever the vidya-pathi is placed, see the higher expressions of charismatic brilliance emitting from the celebrated ruler of bhava-5.
Identified with politics, celebrity, creativity, games, and entertainments.
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the physical identity, material body, and visual appearance.
Identity personality and physical appearance affiliated with
genius, games, creative intelligence, celebrity, politics
entertainers, charmers, genii
A charismatic and large-aura personality: politically and theatrically radiant with abundant life-force energies .
Celebrities in Drama and Performing Arts
Uniquely intelligent, literary personalities
Generally a less easy position for a female, since vidyapathi-5 and lagnesha-1 are masculine placements.
However can be successful for the female politician when vidyapathi-5 = yogakaraka Shani
Very supportive placement for politics and winners of power contests;
vidyapathi-5 in lagna typically thrives in creativity-charged intelligent environments and adores Children .
Depending on the characteristics of vidyapathi-5 and its relationship to Chandra (parenting), the vidyapathi-5 in lagna may just as easily take the role of Great Teacher philosophizing upon children (vidyapathi-5 in 9th from swakshetra) or priest or "father figure". If vidyapathi-5 = Chandra, more likely to take the more mundane parent-role
Fortunate, financially privileged often,
blessed with children either offspring or devoted students,
optimistic and creative.
Adores politics, even if one is not a contender oneself, may be identified and involved in the charismatic excitement
Wins at gambling and succeeds in speculative ventures;
exhibits creative genius;
gets out of most scrapes through abundant natural charm;
cheerfully productive and enjoys life.
Naturally entitled; radiant; charming; attracts applause.
"I am my speculative creativity, my entertainment skills, my political genius, and my confident intelligence."
Adolescent minded, center-stage, political, youth culture, children, innocent love, charm, bhakti, adventure, entertainment, creativity, ingenuity, wealth through speculation,
The social identity * bhava-1* is infused with the qualities of political elections, winnings, casinos, gaming and gambling, romance, amusements and entertainments , performance arts, individualism,
independent thought, poetic love and attraction * akarshana * , divine intelligence, brilliant new perceptions and new ideas .
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of political, dramatic, or intellectual values
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, uniqueexpression of emotional values
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of championship, competitive, activist values
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of mental knowledge-values
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of multiple, global or humanistic values
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of artistic-financial values
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-2 * political, creative, literary, unique expression of social-ordering values
Creative intelligence for politics, dramatic arts and entertainment enters the voice-face-speech-song
Everyone has some type of dramatic performance intelligence. Wherever the vidya-pathi-5 is placed, see the higher expressions of charismatic brilliance emitting from the center-stage, drawing-applause, fame-game ruler of bhava-5.
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 2
political and dramatic intelligence expresses via speech, song, knowledge, lineage-treasuries
Gives a capacity to opine (5) intelligently upon matters of social importance (vidyapathi-5 in 10th from swakshetra) which may produce a "thought leader" in matters of values assessment (2). Broad, speculative, and creative (5) view of history (2).
Easy access to collections of books, songs, memories, treasuries of lineage history, and productive social use (10th) of these assets, but usually not a designated controller of these hoards e.g. not a banker, herder, or treasuries manager per se.
However unless there are other materializing dhana-yoga in the nativity, the collected wealth of bhava-2 may be experienced as treasury of intelligence (5) rather than treasury of financial wealth , depending upon the individual graha and their lords.
One may expect to be protected from dire straits of poverty (unless the satkona is greatly empowered). However great riches are generally not forecast as the native's sense of important values (2) has been intellectualized by the L-5.
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 2 = historical values, collections, Sustenance / values / food / wealth / birth family
enters the world of
treasuries of family lineage, speech and song, knowledge of language and history, and heaped-up (skandha) storage chests of stored wealth
vidyapathi-5 in 10th-from-swakshetra increases the social visibility
Ruler of 2 in 5, or ruler of 5 in 2, generally benefits the public reputation due to their dignified 4-10 angle * so long as there are no papa-graha in 2. With Mangala, Rahu, or Shani located in bhava-2, care must be taken to rein the speech.
Unless bhava-2 is damaged, vidyapathi-5 in 2 = Quite good for having personal money (apart from joint marriage funds)
happiness in the relationship with the children.
Usually when vidyapathi-5 occupies the professional 10th from putra-bhava, one's children have high-visibility careers.
| Das commentary : |
IF The lord of the 5 is in 2nd ,
and the lord of the 5 has at least one beneficial placement attribute:
| "You will have a large family, |
be intelligent, and will know astrology.
You will be good in the art of prediction.
You will enjoy good food.
Your spouse will be affectionate.
You will make money through God's grace and through your connections with people."
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of political, dramatic, or intellectual communications
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of emotional communications
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of championship, competitive, activist communications
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of mental-messaging communications * political announcements
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of multiple, global or humanistic communications
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of artistic-financial communications
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-3 * brilliant expression of social-order communications
vidyapathi-5 in gainful, profit-earning 11th-from-swakshetra = Sahaja bhava- 3
Highly beneficial placement for writers, publishers, announcers, journalists, evangelists.
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 3
enters the world of
verbal-mental world of publications, writing, media production, and commercial business entertainment in meetings, romantic literature, cheerful and bright expressions of daily view
siblings and cousins / teamwork and collaboration / reports and announcements / administration of business / Local group / mental process
Children are general gainful and well-networked socially due to vidyapathi-5 in 11th from swakshetra
highly benevolent placement for profit (11) from political theatre, photographs, drama (5) played out in messaging media such as radio-television-cinema-internet, and literary (5) publications (3)
Splendid placement for Writers, especially when Budha is involved
favors autobiographical or dramatic content
Speculative intelligence and a tendency toward self-projection + theatrical performance in thought-group ensemble; communications.
One works in teams but must be at The center of the team Auspicious for
writers seeking publication, particularly creative writers. One's best ideas (5) may bear fruit in publication Meditations 1596-1650 logic
Rene Descartes +
Budha-3 parivartamsha Kuja-5 ** legendary philosophical discourses which
were popular among intellectuals during the 1600's and still in print
400 years later. God's Dream 1931- Anglican Archbishop Desmond Mpilo Tutu Harmonices Mundi 1571-1630
Johannes Kepler helped to usher in the
17th-century Age of Enlightenment in Europe
(and eventually in Euro-America) via his numerous
widely-read books, tracts, treatises, and printed "conversations ". Face-to-face, he was said to have been
a less pleasant person; but in an age of difficult
travel, his published writings made a great impression
on the scientific discourse of the day. Benefits the long-term success in the message-writing and media-production professions
Auspicious for writers seeking publication, particularly creative writers.
One's best ideas (5) may bear fruit in publication
Meditations 1596-1650 logic Rene Descartes + Zukra-yuti-Chandra * Budha-3 parivartamsha Kuja-5 ** legendary philosophical discourses which were popular among intellectuals during the 1600's and still in print 400 years later.
God's Dream 1931- Anglican Archbishop Desmond Mpilo Tutu
Harmonices Mundi 1571-1630 Johannes Kepler helped to usher in the 17th-century Age of Enlightenment in Europe (and eventually in Euro-America) via his numerous widely-read books, tracts, treatises, and printed "conversations ". Face-to-face, he was said to have been a less pleasant person; but in an age of difficult travel, his published writings made a great impression on the scientific discourse of the day.
Benefits the long-term success in the message-writing and media-production professions
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vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-4
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-4
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-4
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-4
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-4
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 4 resides in the quiet-seeking, retreating, meditative, imaginative, distant, invisible, dissolving, dreamy, clairsentient 12th-from-swakshetra .
Agency of bhagya fortune of 5 goes into the realm of bhava-4, bringing familiar home-culture into the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics
Self-confident, fashionable, entitled vidyapathi-5 enters the world of schooling, property ownership, parents, homeland, housing, protection, and emotional-social security, home * folkways * foundations * schooling
Creates some distance from the children .
Often the children have a second home (perhaps a joint-custody parent who lives some distance away) or attend a boarding school
Drains energy (12th-from) from the vitality of the children
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-5
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-5
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-5
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-5 * Putra-sukha yoga
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-5
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-5
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-5
|vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 5 |
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava-5
Splendid placement for anyone who spends a good deal of time at the center of public attention
creative performers, speculator, game-players, stage artists, politicians
One's own childhood would have been independent of the family pressures and one's sense of personal creativity is strongly supported.
Shani will constrain and structure the expression of both physical and psychological freedom in both the childhood experience and the adult output of creative art.
Yet even in the case of vidyapathi Shani, one is permitted to develop as a unique individual person. Typical of the youngest or only child in a family who is less constrained by the group and left to their own devices.
Romance is dramatic, larger than life, and intelligent.
one seeks romantic self-definition through children, through lovers, and through the theatrical-literary performance arts.
Divine Intelligence expressed through children, politics, speculation, literary and performance arts.
A super-performer, designed for entertainment and constant publicity (except Shani)
One generally remains in the public eye throughout life, although one may change roles; whatever is the role of the moment, however, tends to be a center-stage performance
Children are independent minded and self-defining. Depending on the quality of the L-5, children may be granted more or less freedom (much less if Shani) but whether physically free or not, their spirits are considered independent of the family culture.
Not tethered to the parents' values or perceptions, given a separate space in the home or otherwise separated by boarding school or other distinctive individualizing treatment.
Only vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-5 has truly challenging implication for children. If Guru casts His abundant drishti upon Chandra or Guru casts His abundant drishti upon putrasthana-5, children likely will arrive. However when Mangala-5 combines with other factors, therapeutic or natural abortions are signified (with live birth eventually forecast after much travail). Look for additional information from 5th-from-Chandra, 9th-from-Chandra, radical bhava-9 and its ruler, and periods of Guru in the Vimshottari Dasha to compose an overall forecast regarding procreations.
rings the agency of bhagya fortune of 5
from genius, games, creative intelligence, and politics * into the bhava- of romance, celebrity-royalty, self-expression, theatre, applause, and children.
vidyapathi-5 resides in swakshetra.
Comfortable and fortunate placement for creative or dramatic performance.
Regal, brilliant, delightful -- although slightly more somber when Shani rules the brilliant 5th.
Broad ability to channel divine intelligence.
Sustains creative output. Wonderfully auspicious for literati, theatre actors, every type of stage performer, artist, fashionista, gamer, and politician .
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vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-6
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-6
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-6
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-6
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-6 * multiple service ministries; many health issues
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-6
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 6 carries the fortunate agency of bhagya from the political, dramatic 5th-bhava into the unbalanced, exploitive, and accusatory - but also service ministering - realm of ripu bhava
As an expression of a ministry of service, vidyapathi-5 in bhava-6 can produce a variety of outcomes. One of the most common expressions is political corruption in the form of bribery and kickbacks. Another expression is use of charisma for criminal purposes, such as charming children into trafficking traps. Another expression could be conscious use of political power to address the needs of the marginalized or exploited classes. Often the same person can do several of these these activities, mixing service with exploitation, mixing ministry with crime.
creative, political action on behalf of the victim classes, on behalf of the sick, on behalf of the poor enters the world of Loss of agreement - enemies - disease - Poverty - Crime - exploitation - victims
If a malefic vidyapathi-5 in 2nd-from- swakshetra = karaka for the death of children, particularly the first child. May choose social work or medical service serving child-victims, particularly those who were harmed by their own families.
Service specialties which address the speech, values, or family traditions of children include child-psychology, speech pathology, and legal child advocacy, according to the dignity of the malefic graha.
Whether malefic or benefic, wealth can be accumulated through children, and through creative activities in literature, performance art, speculation, entertainment and politics.
Bhava-6 = Budha's house of argument and criticism. vidyapathi-5 in satkona can expect to receive abundant criticism regarding one's children, personal genius, performance art (theatre, literature), gaming, and political activities.
Matters of children or politics may become scandalous or even criminalized.
If benefic, vidyapathi-5 in satkona likes to make "political speeches" which are charming but full of lies. Theatrical talents put to exploitative use. May be a charlatan who advocates wealth-building but steals the investment money.
Pyramid schemes, political promises, chain letters, multi-level-marketing, other glamorization or rationalization for exploitation of those below. The excessively sunny viewpoint of a benefic bhagya lord when imposed upon the dark environment of bhava-6, results in severe "cognitive dissonance". vidyapathi-5 in satkona = sincere inability to accept responsibility and deep psychological denial can mask some serious exploitation.
If vidyapathi-5 is dignified possibility for a creative (5) approach to conflict management (5) or a good career in health ministry (6) for children (5).
Damaged entitlements (5)
Often vidyapathi-5 in 6 signals the absence of children due to disagreement (6) between the spouses regarding the choice whether to have children; the spouse who has vidyapathi-5 in 6 may feel like the victim of a mate who does not want children and who may threaten divorce (6) if children are brought into the marriage.
However if the karmic process requires the production or acquisition of children, then vidyapathi-5 in bhava-6 may indicate health-related difficulties affecting the production of children .
Alternatively conflict in the relationship with children, especially when the children become adults.
Also commonly the eldest child is karmically scheduled to be working on health-related problem-sets during the present lifetime.
Alternatively, the relationship with the eldest child may be that of master-servant. The child is bound into some variety of servitude.
Financial speculation (5) imbalance
Creatively Exploiting the creativity of others
vidyapathi-5 resides in 2nd-from-swakshetra .
rings the agency of bhagya fortune of 5
Excellent position for a politician who can bring the charisma of 5 into the world of ethnic, class, and inter-demographic conflict as well as issues of debt or financial mismanagement .
Restricts the fertility, may damage the reproductive health.
In case there are children, the first child may be ill, adversarial toward one, or suffer heavy debts.
Favors adoption of children from disadvantaged backgrounds.
- BPHS, Ch 24, shloka 54
"If Putra's lord is in Ari Bhava,
one will obtain such sons who will be equal to his enemies,
or will lose them,
or will acquire an adopted or purchased son."
Das commentary = Aputra Yoga
"The Lord of the fifth is in a Dushthana, a difficult house, which creates "Aputra" Yoga.
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-7
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-7
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-7
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-7
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-7
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-7 * political celebrity relationships
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 7 = speculative winnings, publications recognition-success
charismatic advising, consulting, suggestions
bhagya fortune via deal-making, balancing, harmonizing, unions, equity, marriage, contracts, agreements, advocacy. Brings the agency of bhagya = good luck of the 5th amsha = into the realm of bhava- 7
the genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts, and politics enters the world of advising relationships, peer-to-peer consulting, marriage, brokering, and alliances.
splendid placement for an entertainment lawyer or anyone in the modern entertainment-gambling-amusements industry, due to intelligence and self-focus always present during crafting of legal contracts
If Budha, very shrewd and wealthy.
Also excellent for diplomatic communications on political matters
vidyapathi-5 resides in strategic, tactical, planning, communicative 3rd-from-swakshetra .
Ruler of 11th-from-7 occupies 7
Marriage union and business alliance provide a theatrical expression one 's creativity and speculative intelligence.
The spouse likes children or politics, and is socially identified with those adventures.
Spouse may be a performance artist, politician, literati, speculator, or member of royalty.
Dramatic, fashionable, splendid, Ceremonial style in relationships.
Channels one's highest creative expression through activity of making contracts, alliances, negotiations, partnership, pairings, matches, deals, and agreements.
The vidyapathi-5 is an ego-centered, attention-craving graha which -- whilst brilliant and entertaining -- is also explicitly independent and self-focused.
vidyapathi-5 in 7 is not a show-stopper to marriage but if the graha is strong, one may not be comfortable to share the stage with a spouse, and one's need for public acclamation may damage the marital harmony.
Potential for Marriage to the divine via religious avowal
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vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-8
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-8
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-8
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-8
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-8 * many ego- transformations, much performance intelligence to enact the occult teachings
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-8
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-8 * long life, limitations on regeneration
vidyapathi-5 in randhra-bhava-8
Agency of politics, drama, creativity, speculation, gambling bhagya = lucky coincidences-5 enters the realm of join assets of marriage, in-laws, secret liaisons, identity-changes, and hidden assets bhava-8
personal intelligence (5) enters the 8th-from world of eruption of hidden forces:
Bhava 8 = 4th-from-5th AND 5th-from-4th
vidyapathi-5 in 8 and bandesha-4 in 8 are both auspicious placements in two distinctive ways.
Stabilization into rhythmic, customary cultural practice (4) of gambling and literary or celebrity genius (5)
Creative projection (5) from the folk basis (4)
Any graha which is born into randhra bhava becomes subject to the fast spinning of the cycle (8) of self-destruction and rebirth (8).
The speed of change-of-form is often terrifying. Matters of the bhava-s ruled by graha in 8 are controlled by this fast-turning, re-cycling , identity-destroying and regenerating hidden life force.
Brilliant Creativity (5) enters the realm of hidden worlds
Effects of graha in 8 = frightening, secretive, occult, mysterious, hidden, shocking magical, rejuvenating and changing-changing-changing.
fortune from creative or political engagement with hidden powers or with the conditions of death, such as inheritance, wills and estates.
vidyapathi-5 resides in 4th-from-swakshetra . Favorable conditions the homeland customs and habits, the transmitted generational folkways such as melodies and prosody (the cadence of conversation);
patterns of language and dress, customary beliefs of the people and their land. potential for
Conditions of death
Conditions of death often (not always) include political reaction or sentiment (5). If not political, then certainly dramatic.
Death of the flesh-body = shocking (8) but fascinating, celebrated (5), regal, dramatic, getting central attention, brilliant (5), heroic or tragic.
Life is often somewhat brief or does not live to a full age unless a strong Shani-8 or Shani drishti into 8
Death of a younger person in the peak of their creative output years is more fascinating, shocking, and riveting drama.
vidyapathi-5 in randhrastana may become a famous celebrity in death ... a larger-than-life literary protagonist within a fascinating story of the turning of the wheel of birth and death.
One may become a celebrity (5) of revolution (8) or radical social change. Willingness (5) to undertake transformative healing, to deal creatively with confidential and secret information, hidden monies, or inheritances.
Excellent for dramatizing tantrik and magical practices through creative performances and literature. bhava-5 center-of-attention = autobiography
Despite the favorable 4th angle, vidyapathi-5 in randhra bhava significantly limits the number of children.
Depending on the precise graha, there may be indeed children but not the wanted ones, or perhaps no children at all if Guru is ill-disposed, Shani in 5, or other intensification of the destruction of progeny
Exceptions can occur when several graha occupy bhava-5.
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-9
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 9 = vidyapathi-5 resides in the charismatic, political, creative, gaming, regal 5th-from-swakshetra.
A heady mix of creative arts and literature, Politics + Global Humanism + Ideological Doctrines
May be perceived as a Royal or Regal Celebrity
In some cases, may be literally worshipped by devotees
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava-9 = courtly lifestyle and playing favorites genius of games, creative intelligence, performance arts.
Splendid placement for politics
Children and offspring of one's own creative intelligence enter the 9th-realm of father- religion - priestly ritual - public acts of spiritual guidance; humanized communication with world of Spirit; global travel, religious scholarship, and wisdom teaching.
If Shani = vidyapathi-5 in 9 * orthodox religion. Prefers a weighty, hoary, heavily ritualized, perhaps somewhat punitive, class-ranked religious doctrine.
Father is highly intelligent often a creative artist, scholar or literati with political inclinations
Exceptionally fortunate for global humanitarian and world-trade activities.
Fortunate in finance, esp. speculative (5) finance. Generally free of money trouble, as well-wishers abound.
A highly positive (9) thinker who can take a creative approach to even the most dire situation, and generally succeed due to one's Faith (9) in one's abilities (5) coupled with faith in the Divine (9).
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-10
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-10
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-10
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-10
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-10
| Excellent position for creative performers but somewhat stressful due to the shad-ashtaka 6-8 angle showing willful resistance to conformist public-duty roles, and sometimes overt conflict with the government.|
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 10 = adversarial 6th-from-swakshetra.
Career indicator for professions in vidya, drama, politics, games, creative arts and scholarship, celebrity, royalty, and uniquely autocratic intelligence
Due to the shad-ashtaka * 6/8 angle, prone toward accusations, class conflict and culture war yet typically a capable executive officer who carries political idealism (5) into the pragmatic workday of institutional governance (10).
vidyapathi-5 residing in karmasthana is creative and entitled, albeit always somewhat conflict about the 6/8 awkwardness between unique individual intelligence (5) and the lawful, no-exceptions requirements of social governance (10). The public career (10) expresses the creative domains of bhava-5 including politics , entertainment, celebrity-royalty, gaming, speculative finance, literary arts, and drama.
Celebrity and drama * never far from politics
May do well in gambling and other speculative fields as well. Overall however one would rather play and create rather than organize things and set rules. Even when successful, native feels somewhat constricted and uncomfortable in the director role.
Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of highest public visibility bhava- 10
the genius of games, creative intelligence, artistic performance, and political empowerment
enters the iconic, recognizable world of
profession - social reputation - class-caste Rank - dignity - institutional governance - leadership responsibilities, dignity of work, orderly environments, lawful hierarchies and step-wise ladder-climbing.
vidyapathi-5 resides in 6th-from-swakshetra, = conflicts and accusations made by enemies
s elf-expressive drive to enter highest public office, but often the personal willfulness exceeds the bureaucratic, conformist boundaries of government roles.
Too much ego-membrane expressive creativity in the sober and lawful 10th house can be problematic when the role is defined as public *servant*. the native may be perceived as overly literary, too attention-hungry, or too dramatic for long-term high ranking positions.
Children (especially the eldest child) may rise high into positions of public leadership responsibility and respect.
The father's family, or the father's assets, or the father's abilities with language, history, or matters of the face-eyes-mouth is distinctive and socially recognized.
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vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity entitlements
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity sensitivity, caring
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity activity, battles
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity announcements, explanations to community
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity philosophy
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-11 * economic gain from celebrity diplomacy, balancing
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-11 * economic gain from intelligent governance, endurance
Very profitable business deals as the political vidyapathi-5 goes into the income-producing vriddhi-sthana.
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 11 = diplomatic, deal-making, bargaining, harmonizing 7th-from-swakshetra.
Brings the agency of bhagya 5th amsha = intelligence, good luck, winning ideas = into marketplace - networks- interconnected communities
the genius of games, creative confidence, artistic performance, and political empowerment, royal entitlement
earnings from artistic performance and creative literature
earnings from political, regal, and center-stage roles
enters the networked world of webs of association, voluntary friendships, economies of goods and ideas, the distributive marketplace
Magnified by Rahu to super-profits via political association:
well connected in the world of financially wealthy royalty (5) celebrity (5) and high-entitlement investors (5)
atmakaraka Guru drishti to L-2 + Vriddhipathi-11 Budha; rogesha-6 + yuvatipathi-7 uttama-Shani;
Genius of network-building (11) and developing interconnected communities through charismatic personal appeal (5).
one is well-connected politically, as are one's children.
One takes a leadership role in large, regulated social participation movements
Often knows or is socially connected to royalty, celebrity, and the creative classes
vidyapathi-5 = Surya in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 = Chandra in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 = Mangala in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 = Budha in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 = Guru in bhava-12 * many meditations, much sanctuary
vidyapathi-5 = Zukra in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 = Shani in bhava-12
vidyapathi-5 in bhava- 12 * the putra-putriki-pathi occupies 8th-from- putra-putriki-sthana
dreams / meditation / sanctuary /subconscious / private worlds Brings the agency of bhagya = fortune of 5 = into the realm of bhava- 12
enters the private world of
vidyapathi-5 resides in 8th-from-swakshetra.
randhresha-8 from putra bhava = for sudden, forced changes in children, politics, speculative wealth = not fortunate for children, politics, speculative investments, games.
Opportunity for authentic creative expression is somewhat dissolved.
The graha in 12 may be so rapidly transforming that only brief expressions of the creative output are permitted; or alternatively, the creative endeavors flourish mainly in distant lands or via actions of the imagination.
"Behind the scenes " (12) politics and political machinations in distant lands, if vidyapathi-5 is strong
Does not deny children, but can indicate that they may face invisible challenges, such as unexpected changes, eruptions of hidden force, secret information, or an un-diagnosed disease.
Circumstances combine to dissolve the relationship with children, particularly but not exclusively the first one.
In a scientific nativity, bhava-12 indicates research and the intuitive hunches which direct the research to choose particular paths of inquiry.
Q: my fiancée's vidyapathi-5 radix occupies bhava-8. Is this a poor forecast for having normal children?
There is no special disease pattern in her family nor mine, but I wonder about the consequences of the lord of putra bhava going into mrityu bhava?
Should we do a compensating puja?
A: vidyapathi-5 the putra-pati going into bhava-8 is less problematic than vidyapathi-5 going into Vyaya bhava-12, or indeed vidyapathi-5 going into Ari bhava-6. And anyway there must be several negative pointers to make a negative forecast - never base a prediction on just one factor !
In general, to find the vidyapathi-5 in the 2nd-from-swakshetra (Ari bhava) is not great for the initial health of the child. The infant might be sickly, perhaps have a good deal of contact with physicians and clinics, take some corrective drugs etc.
Also, vidyapathi-5 in 4th-from-swakshetra is not inherently bad, not at all.
4th-from is a very stable kendra.
Similar to vidyapathi-5 in 2: unless the rashi of the the 8th bhava is a very hostile rashi for the L-5, not to worry. The child will have a penchant for secrecy and may develop amazing detective skills, but relationship with parents especially the mother (4) is likely quite good.
There can be cause for concern when vidyapathi-5 occupies the 12th bhava. In this case+ vidyapathi-5 occupies 8th-from-swakshetra which bhava-12 is also a dushthamsha for the parent. In this configuration if there are other factors pointing in the same direction we might forecast that one does not wish to produce one's own children
Again, no one single factor can predict the outcome for children in a nativity. What other features are affecting the performance of L-5? What is L-5's relationship to the lord of His occupied bhava (friend or enemy)? Other graha with L-5? Combust? Receiving friendly drishti? Angle to Chandra?
Look also for positive evidence from child-karaka Guru,
and look also at the lord of dharma bhava who has nearly the same predictive power for children as the L-5.
However in case vidyapathi-5 resides in a dushthamsha it is really only vidyapathi-5 in 12 which is a concern.
file update: 29-Apr-2017
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