Bhratru-bhava * Sahotta-daya
Messaging and Mentality
Cohort Coterie Commerce Communication Cooperation
3rd-from-any-lagna * 3rd-from-Chandra
the third house
the learning classroom of vikramasthana-3 = ruled by Professor Budha
Commercial business * transactions * enterprise * business * technology
Messenger-Message-Emissary * Angel-Evangelism * Signaler-Signal-Enseigneur
Hasti: Manager-manual-manipulation * Crafter-Craft-Handcraft
high-frequency, micro-focused administrative tasks
company, coworkers, co-born, cousins, cooperation, collaboration, coordination, correspondence, committee, commerce, conferences,
communications-media , teamwork, ensemble, assembling, small-group interaction, sales, meetings, messaging, mentality
busy-ness, business, brethren
frequent short-term travels, tours, translation, scheduling, planning, publications, reports, advertising, announcements, annotation, administration
Vimshottari Periods of the Rulers of Bhava-1-to-12
Bhava-3 occupies an adversarial 6/8 angle regarding bhava-10, which means that the journalistic reports of Bhava-3 are often threatening to the entitled power structure of 10. In commercial business and government bureaucracy, management duties (3) are inherently adversarial to elite executive roles.
Plan ahead -- It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.
Ernest Hemingway (1943).
"Cowardice , as distinguished from panic, is almost always simply a lack of ability to suspend the functioning of the imagination."
|Regional names for bhava-3|| Sahaja * Sahottha |
Krama * Vikrama * Parākrama
Duschikya * Yodha (warrior)
|~~ A New Earth 1948- spiritual explainer Eckhart Tolle|| Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgments, and definitions that blocks all true relationship. |
It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, …”
|Topics of Bhava-3|| |
Sermons, Signs and Signals
significance, enseignment, enseñador
communications and cohort
meetings and messages
mentality, instruction, explanation, training, craft
'Saha' = "with","co-, com-, con-"
Cousins, Coherence of the Cohort , coordination of the communicants, collaborators in the conversation ,
Playmates, Neighbors, Vecinos-Vicinity, Ensemble , Team, Business department, administrative units, Equipe
Signals, Hearing , reports, announcements, publications, text, journalism, narrative,
Courage, Mental Health, Bravery
shared mentality, cooperative groups
Sibling group, Ensemble, Cohort, Team or Band
management (micro-man agement),
the hands , man ual skills, man ipulation, com mand s + mand ates,
gesture and word, conversation, signaling, instructions, explanations,
publications, printing, plans
Brethren, Business, bravery,
meetings, media, message
"The Interior Narrative"
reporting ,"The News ", messengers, angels, evangelism,
siblings, Cousins, cooperatives, Co-workers, Team-mates
those whom one is with (saha) - mental narrative = the company one keeps = team = cohort = altogether - out ensemble
Communications, courage, decisions, mental health : hands, writing, siblings, neighbors, teamwork, business administration, meetings, planning, calendars, commerce,"media", sales, marketing, training, mentality, conversations, publication, announcement, the inner narrative
The astrological picture of siblings, media communications, writing, or the thyroid gland, inter alia, is formed via:
saha * same * with
The astrologer's initial picture of Saha-ja * naturally together =
|Handcraft, manufacturing, smithy|
|― Maya Angelou||Courage is the most important of all the virtues because without courage, you can't practice any other virtue consistently.”|
| Vocabulary for Bhratru|
Bhratru * bhrAtR =
| OVERCOMING DISTRACTION |
"Resting in Shamatha” in The Path of Individual Liberation : Volume One of The Profound Treasury of the Ocean of Dharma
by Chögyam Trungpa, p. 232
| "In this samsaric, or confused, world, most of you have grown up physically, but psychologically you are very young. |
If your mind is so adolescent that you have no control over it, what you are taught is completely wasted, because you have not heard it - not because you are stupid but because you are so distracted.
The discipline of meditation is the best way for you to work with your mind, so that your mind and your body can be properly coordinated."
V.S. Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, p. 1551
|V.S. Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary, p. 1216|| |
Quotation from the writings of Pt Narasimha Rao :
|"The 3rd house shows one's boldness. |
The 3rd house from lagna and the 3rd house from Mars show one's true boldness and the 3rd house from AL shows how bold one is perceived.
In addition, A3 shows the maya surrounding one's boldness. It shows what drives the perceptions of people about one's boldness.
The weapons one possesses may drive those perceptions and A3 may show one's weapons.
The 3rd house also shows one's communication skills.
A3 shows the maya associated with one's writing skills. One may have excellent writing skills, but not write any book.
In this author's D-10, for example, A3 is in Pisces. This can mean that he will be known for some books on sattwik and traditional subjects and astrology certainly fits the bill."
~~ Pt. Narasimha Rao
BPL note: Similarly, the A3 of Barbara Pijan Lama's D-10 = Meena containing a Revati Chandra. The A-3 of D-10 for the famous 20th-century Jyotisha author B.V. Raman was Kanya. Shri Raman was famous for his Budha-driven argumentation style that provided learners with copious examples, clear and detailed explanations, and an exemplary role model of professional service.
| Sankheta Nidhi, |
Ch. 7, Shloka 2
"From the third house should be examined all matters relating to
courage, brothers, servants, journeys and father."
| Madhya Parashari, |
Ch. 9, Shloka 3
"Younger brother or sister, valor or courage, throat,
Appetite, ornaments, talent [or otherwise]
should be understood from the third house. "
| Phaladeepika, |
Ch1, Shloka 11-12
"Duschikya (the third house):
Uras (chest), the right ear,
army, courage, valor, prowess, and brother
are denoted by the third house. "
Chapter 11: 4.
Ch. 1, Shloka 16
"The third house signifies brothers, courage, bravery, fear, voice, ear, fruits, father's death,
strength, dress and mental stability and firmness."
Ch. 7, Shloka 39-43
|"Whatever has to be known through Sahaja Bhava be also analyzed through the 3rd from Mangala. "|
Situation at time of Flesh-Death, measured from Sahaja Bhava 8th-from-8th
~~ BPHS Ch 44, Shloka 25
"Chandra in Sahaja Bhava will cause death due to tuberculosis ...
Guru in Sahaja Bhava or giving a drishti to Sahaja Bhava will cause death by swelling or tumors " ...
If Sahaja Bhava is occupied by a benefic, death will be in a lighted place (like a shrine);
[but] if Sahaja Bhava is occupied by a malefic, death will be in darkened places " [whereas]
Mixed occupation of Sahaja Bhava will yield mixed results with regard to the place of death."
| Sankheta Nidhi, |
Ch. 7, Shloka 2
"...death of father and mother should be considered from the third house.
|BPHS - Ch. 33|| |
"Wounds, weapons, fire, and thirst will cause death through Mangala in Sahaja Bhava."
|~~ BPHS Ch. 33|| |
"Consciousness will prevail at the time of death if Guru or Zukra are placed in Sahaja Bhava."
| Q:Why does everything turn out so lousy for me? Nothing every works out. I don't doubt my own intelligence but the pattern has repeated now, so many times, that I'm frustrated and disgusted with myself. |
Even my co-workers can't stand me. I think its the planets, the way they are arranged in the Kundali. I don't see any way out.
| A: |
Rahu+Surya+Budha in rashi of Shani (Kumbha ) in bhava-3 show an ego attachment to the mental state of depression.
Plenty of people get absolutely stuck in a mental victim state and simply refuse to release their suffering due to ego identification (Surya) with the pain.
"That's who I am. I'm a depressed loser. My life is a continuous, unbroken narrative of failure. I am defined by failure, loss, grief, and pain."
(Surya = self, consistent, comprehensible, whole, unbroken)
Grief is addictive.
An addiction is a behavior which is so dominating and compulsive that it prevents the possibility of other behaviors. One may be addicted to alcohol, drugs, sex, food, or sleep. One may also become psycho-mentally addicted to grief, so that NO OTHER NARRATIVE can develop.
One may become ego-identified with the act of delivering the"report" (3) about racial discrimination, having a handicap, being raised poor, alcoholic parents, other suffering and indignity.
The constant litany of such a grief-addict rehearses and reiterates the 100 reasons why life just isn't working for them.
No wonder the co-workers are complaining.
Sounds crazy (3) and it is indeed the very definition of crazy, but that is the task with this combination.
If you want improvement, it will be necessary to pry oneself away from the internal narrative (3) of chronic depression.
This repeating, self-defining loop is mentally (3) predictable and the routine of the negative repetitions is comforting . It creates a sort of a mental-drug addiction. It is difficult to un-hook from the mental-habitual behavior, especially because this is not a physical action, and few other people know what is happening within the traffic patterns in one's own discursive mind (3).
However, despite the social invisibility of the task, self-inquiry into the narrative script and re-writing of the narrative script is the best way to reestablish your sanity.
Depressive narratives put the brain into a comfortably miserable state by running a familiar loop of repeating sad ideas related to disappointment, loss, grief, and sorrow. You can keep running that loop if you want but the results will be very predictable.
There are dozens of outside technologies that can help alleviate depression in a natural, effective way. Bach Flower Remedies are my personal favorites.
Several homeopathic remedies when properly prescribed can alleviate depression. Sandalwood essential oil also relieves guilt * which is a major source of depression.
However NONE of these remedies will be in the least effective if the person remains mentally attached (3) to the victim state.
Have a look at your family. Who else is depressed and who else is repeating a litany of reasons why life is so miserable? Often one will get hooked into 'validating' this family member by repeating their model.
You have the self-inquiry skills to do this work. It takes WORK to un-hook. The work will succeed if the person expects it to succeed. The originating thoughts and negative convictions must be rooted out.
Surya-Kumbha is often called immoral or socially irresponsible, precisely because this placement constructs an ego-membrane that blames "the system". It is quite natural and attractive to this weakened Surya to blame the kundali, blame the stars, blame the cosmos.
However, Rahu and Budha are both strong enough to function as two horses of a chariot that can drive the mind out of wallowing depression and into genuine science (Kumbha).
Indeed you have the moral will to accept responsibility for your own thoughts , but Jyotisha opinion hardly matters in this judgment. What does matter is your personal courage (3) and willingness to enter into battle with one's own inherited (8th-from-8th) negative assumptions.
| Namaste Barbara |
I am a huge fan of your webpage. So, I have this question. Interviews or Job interviews fall under the portfolio of 9 bhava or 11 bhava ? I am confused because at least in American College system job interviews are extension of networking
etc etc.. So, is it 11th ? When you apply for a full time job as senior, it is more connected to campus recruitment etc. And also we have interviews for MBA programs. You are being interviewed to become student. So, is it 9th ? Please kindly answer me when time permits. Keep continuing the good work. I learn a lot.
Interviews or Job interviews fall under the portfolio of 9 bhava or 11 bhava ?
I am confused because at least in American College system job interviews are extension of networking etc etc.. So, is it 11th ?
When you apply for a full time job as senior, it is more connected to campus recruitment etc. And also we have interviews for MBA programs. You are being interviewed to become student. So, is it 9th ?
Please kindly answer me when time permits. Keep continuing the good work. I learn a lot.
| Namaste, |
For Jyotisha analysis purpose, the interviews are different from networked relationships because they are 'business meetings' and interviews are also communication tasks, which are part of the portfolio of Budha's natural bhava-3.
Every conversation, every letter, every phone-text, every resume-CV is a communication event by which you provide-and-receive information to the interviewer (perhaps several interviewers). In that event there is always an emotional component. The people who are communicating mentally-verbally, how are they feeling about that conversation? To find out about the feelings, which are very influential in the success of any type of communication, look to the 3rd from Chandra.
You're right, bhava-11 and all of the many 11th-from angles of the Jyotisha nativity represent social networks, which are voluntary communities of people who exchange commodities, ideas, and services within a large group. bhava-3 = 4th-from-11 which means that the basis (4) of the large networks (11) is actually created by the 1-to-1 (or small group) conversations which occur in sahajabhava-3. Everything in the world of professional gains (11) starts with personal conversations (3) before it grows into a big economy (11)
Before adulthood really begins (age 31) our communication skills and style are learned at home with siblings-neighbors and then later refined at school with our class cohort. The adult workplace is generally a repeat of the home-school siblings-cohort scene.
So, to find out if you are a clear, confident, and charming communicator, look into bhava-3 of the kundali to find the mental-articulatory behavior and look into 3rd-from-Chandra to find the emotions which you tend to feel during interviews. (The person interviewing you will also perceive your emotions so it is a good idea to know what you are projecting.)
Finally, remember to check 3rd-from-3rd (bhava-5, personal intelligence) and 3rd-from-3rd-from Chandra (personal emotional intelligence, intuition, smart hunches). 3rd-from-Budha can indicate a fundamental, steady-state mentality which is so deeply embedded in the worldview that it influences absolutely everything, yet 3rd-from-Budha is often not recognized as a major shaping force of attitudes and expectations. It is a very good idea to check into the behaviors of 3rd-from-Budha to see what you expect from the world!
However, in terms of what the world expects from you -- as a professional contributor to society -- look to the 10th navamsha and the function of the lord of the 10th navamsha in the radical kundali. Lord of the 10th navamsha is an accurate indicator of your professional gifts and abilities, and of the role you are destined to play in the greater advancement of civilization.
Wishing you a happy and productive interview season!
Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotisha
|Response from a reader regarding the role of bhava-3 and its agents in determining success of job interview.|| You did hit on the nail with"resume/CV"and"personal conversations (3) grows into big economy (11)! |
I know someone in my close circle who is exceptionally smart with lot of contribution to technical journals. But, her resume was miserably bad. And failed almost many interviews. I know her"budha" was good. I was wondering, why couldn't she market herself well. So, all this while, I was perplexed.
Now, after, I read your article. I went back and checked that chart. The concerned person has "Shani" in 3 bhava. So, I guess, her resume was "plain", as you always put for Shani.
|bhava-3 Agents and Environments :|| |
Third lord in lagna = Daily business controls the personality.
Lagnesha in bhava-3 = Personality controls the daily business.
The strongest case is uttama-Kuja which makes a captain of industry for Vrischikha lagna. Also uttama-Shani or uttama-Budha in bhava-3 = very positive agents for business success. May not conform to the dogma of conventional business practice due to the infusion of personal style into the communications transactions.
Nature of personalized expression of business practice is to be judged by characteristics of L-1. For example,
|Body Parts|| |
In the physical body, Sahaja Bhava signifies the body parts most influential in social communication - including the thyroid gland , energetic seat of the fifth or"throat" chakra, the core of sound production.
Cannot stop mentalizing
| This native has one older male sibling and one younger male sibling - another indication of the extremely high level of male energy in uchcha Kuja occupying bhratru bhava. |
The siblings are also top achievers in their professional fields, reflecting the tight interaction between uttama-Kuja and Shani in the radical nativity. This chart came to the Jyotishi's attention because the client was suffering unhappiness in the period of retirement from professional life. Despite being a multi-millionaire, enjoying the pleasures of family and travel, and most of the forms of happiness that money can buy, this native was restless and increasingly critical of his home surroundings (nativity = Krittika Chandra).
Jyotisha suggests that the extraordinary strength of this Bhratru Bhava's middle-child programming gives a psychological motivation. the native must continue to compete with his (internalized) siblings. He continues to compete for his dear mother's attention (Kuja controls Moon)."I have to be better" says his inner child ."In fact, to be assured of mom's permanent loving attention, I simply have to be the Best."
He is programmed to pursue the Best (uttama-Kuja mutual drishti to uttama-Guru). This native cannot expect conventional"retirement" in the sense of"disengagement from daily business " to be a pleasurable experience. He must continue to work in active competitive business communications, or else vigorous competitive sport where he can achieve prestigious titlesand financial rewards. Otherwise he will be unable to find productive outlet for the amazing uttama-Kuja, and he will be unhappy.
|Hands and Hand-Skills|| |
|Skilled Crafts, Commercial Capabilities|| |
The natural civilization extension of our physical hearing, gesticulating, and writing is the entire sophisticated field of cultural communications. In modern parlance, krama bhava profiles our relationship to"media".
A strong and well-populated bhratru bhava shows skill and ability in sales, marketing, advertising, planning, public relations, getting along with customers, giving and following instructions, entertaining, short-term commitments, business travel, and all the day-to-day idea juggling that modern business thinkers undertake.
As opposed to short journeys of a few hours or days as found in yodha bhava, dharma bhava profiles long travels lasting many months. Similarly, as opposed to practical short-term corporate or vocational skills training as found in Sahaja bhava, dharma bhava indicates long-term philosophical education, lifetime intellectual development, and substantial mastery of the studied subject.
Meetings, teamwork, messaging, mental tasking, telecommunications/telephone, television and other image-media, graphical user interfaces, and all the highly complex communications technology of modern business are encompassed in Bhratru Bhava -"the naturally connected".
Careers in conflict-management such as social services, bank loans, medical/dental, criminal law etc. usually involve remarkable amounts of administrative paperwork and constant group meetings.
These careers involve working primarily with people from one's own cultural value set (2nd-from-2nd). Coworkers will agree on values for basic human dignity and human rights; basic values for money and financial management; basic definitions of disease/health; and basic historic cultural definitions of what is a crime and how to manage/contain criminality.
Without strong fundamental agreements on cultural values, the extensive group conversations indicated by bhava-3 are not possible. bhava-3 signifies administration, paperwork, business meetings, andrecord-keeping, along with continuous articulation of policy and planning efforts.
bhava-3 is a local not a global domain. It is not concerned with philosophy or large-scale scholarly inquiry. bhava-3 operates within a pre-established set of cultural values. Natives with strength in bhava-3 are charged to perpetuate the values of their people through administrative small-group process.
Natives who find their professional career in conflict-management specialties (banking, law enforcement, criminal advocacy, social services, public medicine, etc) should have an empowered and beneficial graha such as lagnesha+ L-3+ karmesha-10 , or another auspicious combination in Sahaja bhava.
"BPHS, Ch. 24, shloka 27
the native will be endowed with happiness through co-born
and will have wealth and sons,
be cheerful, and extremely happy.
|Sibling Order|| |
Bhratru Bhava marks specifically the immediate younger sibling. Immediate older sibling is seen in labha bhava (bhava-11) and the 11th lord. To find the profile of a specific sibling, count odd houses in this way
Immediate elder sibling = house 11
Yes, if you are in the middle of a big sibling group, there will be powerful resemblances between the oldest and the youngest extremes.
Third house being weak or strong, with a weak, strong, supportive, or oppressive lord, determines the positive or negative role of siblings (and close neighbors, close coworkers, possibly close sibling-like friends) in the person's life.
Birth order is a known factor in shaping human self-concept. Psychologically, Bhratru bhava tells us how much the native 's birth order position within his sibling group determines her/his life experience.
For some people, birth order is the determining feature of their personality. For others, birth order (and other details of sibling relationship) exert only a mild positive or negative pull.
Birth order position will be important in his development because bhratru bhava and other significations for brothers (such as 3rd-from-Chandra) are powerful. The list of positive sibling significations includes (but is not limited to):
Clearly, this man with Vrizchika rising and lagnesha uttama Kuja in bhratru bhava receiving drishti of uttama-Guru and parivartamsha with bhratrupathi-3 Shani will be profoundly influenced by his siblings, particularly the immediate younger sibling.
Profile of Influential Younger Sibling
Kuja is a highly masculine planet. The immediate younger sibling has abundance of high-function sports and competition energy. uttama-Kuja also makes a great corporate businessperson.
Often bhratru- karaka Mars occupying His own house gives karako bhavo nashto , which can actually destroy the contents of the house. However Kuja has so many favorable indications is the exalted lagnesha, it is quite the opposite - siblings are extremely influential.
Karako bhavo nashtoin general applies only to planets in their own houses. Thus the destructive powers of Kuja/3 would be most noticeable in Mesha or Vrizchika rashis.
Because of Kuja's strength and centrality in the radix - lord of Chandra and lagna, in drishti angles to his own Professor Shani and Chandra's tenant uttama-Guru - this native's sibling position -- whether eldest, or middle, or youngest -- will encourage his competitive instincts and powerfully shape his destiny.
the native with uttama-Kuja as lagnesha occupying bhratru bhava is therefore exceptionally motivated to fulfill the conditions of his birth order . Here is a middle child who works extremely hard to distinguish himself. uttama-Kuja is of course the karaka for stunning success in competitions of all kinds - but particularly, because Kuja is exalted (oddly) in Saturn's sign, uttama-Kuja gives remarkable achievements in commercial business.
So, we can surmise that this fellow is a very, very hard worker. He craves success. He exhibits tremendous courage, bravery, a heroic stamina, and both tactical and strategic intelligence. These are all qualities of bhratru bhava - competitive skills honed within the internal competition of the sibling group.To verify that his True, internal psychic viewpoint or dharma" is seeing himself as an exceptionally skillful and diligent worker (emphasis on the diligent due to Shani lord of Kuja) let us examine the lagnesha via navamsha-lord method.
Kuja occupies a navamsha of Shani, so indeed Shani in radix dominates the native 's self-concept regarding his position in the world. He sees himself (dharma = viewpoint, perspective) predominantly as a worker on the material plane, handling confidential matters (Scorpionis) with aggressive skill (uttama-Kuja). The parivartamsha yoga between lagnesha and his "dharmic" Professor Shani is highly benevolent
for the specific portfolio of Shani. This native will be highly successful on the material plane.
Acquaintances and dignity of leadership on behalf of the least powerful
The full circle of those naturally together includes a wide variety of people with whom we form temporary sibling-type relationships. These friends and acquaintances were no doubt our siblings in other lives. In the current life, we find an easy, comfortable understanding with them.
3 = 10th-from-6th , the dignity of leadership of the lowest workers and ministry of the dispossessed. 3 also = 6th-from-10th , the nearly endless petty administration which accompanies executive roles in large hierarchical organizations of government bureaucracy and corporate pyramids.
3 profiles the dignity of providing a lawful environment for service workers. These servants may be public servants in a civic setting; servants of the house such as babysitters and repair workers; or direct reports in a corporate office. All of them are performing tasks. In cultures where class hierarchies are still very rigid, 3 represents the dignity of one's housing staff (butlers, housemaids, cooks etc.) and the prestige they gain from serving in one's business establishment.
One born with uttama-Guru in bhava-3, for example, is likely to acquire many pleasant servants who remain loyal to him/her for a lifetime.
He with a generous and friendly Sahaja bhava is the dignified and respectful boss that people like to work under. He supervises and communicates well with office help and home-repair contractors. Natives with malefic influences on the third house must pay extremely close attention to the affect which negative communications style is having on their underlings! 3 = 12th-from-4th showing loss and dissolution of the home. A poor quality Sahaja shows shoddy home repairs, disenchanted support staff, and thieving servants.
Mental Attitude/State of Mind
Although putra bhava is the seat of intelligence and a stronger indication of genius, Sahaja bhava represents the basic mental balance and practical mental skills required for daily task management .
Along with general mental capacity, mental strength and vitality, Sahajabhava also indicates courage, stamina, and force of will. The sum total of effects on Bhratru sthana reveal one's overall State of Mind.
A supremely powerful third bhava may show heroism, if Mars or Sun is lord. Conversely, ideologues and dogmatic thinkers are also found here when fearful aspects from Saturn or an agitated Mars or Rahu are present.
3 = 2nd-from-2nd = one of the bhava that can represent higher education. It is quintessentially the bhava of the student attending classes. Professor Shani occupies a comfortable angle from Bhratru-bhava may show the perpetual student whose perfectionism (Shani) makes them return to basic studies many times in the course of a lifetime. Mercury's effect on Bhratru makes the conversation witty; native is a successful if not profound student; interests will lie in commerce and communication arts rather than religion or humanities.
An academic career entails good effects on both Sahaja and dharma bhava. Third house is for day-to-day mental tasking for running a classroom, attending the endless meetings, and accurately recording one's research. Ninth house is for the authentic philosophical studies, and the dharmic strength to pursue them in spite of the onslaught of the "business " side of teaching!
Courage , Vitality, willpower, Selfishness or Self-directedness
3 = 2nd-from-2nd = The death of death. Therefore bhava-3 gives courage, mental focus, and willpower - especially the brave self-narrative needed to survive threats to life .
A strong resident of bhava-3, such as lagnesha or an exalted graha in the third sthana, indicates a vital, courageous person who will make his or her mark on the world. Classroom-3 shows intensity of connection with the world through one's physical body. A weak third house without compensation elsewhere in the chart signifies a person who does not willingly interact much with the world, either psychically or physically. (Confirm also 3rd-from-Chandra and position of 3rd-lord.)
Third-house characteristics are famously helpful in business, since they connote"the drive to survive"and denote self-made financial wealth .
| Maternal Great Grandmother (mother's-father's-mother ) |
and her effect on your personality
The most accurate emotional view of the mother's-father's-mother is seen in 12th-from-Moon.
However the sense of the Mother's father's mother [maternal great grandmother] as a subtle but important influence on your childhood home - the values and attributes of the home which shaped your earliest and most core sense of Self - can be derived from Vikrama bhava.
= your bhava-3
Your thought patterns and daily communication activities contain a strong psychic influence from the mother's father's mother.
Modern society's long life spans make it a rare event to meet this relative of yours in person.
But you will know them in meditation. Ask for guidance from them on matters of mental health, writing, hands-on-healing, neighborhood and sibling relationships.
Even without asking them for help, you may find that your communication and problem-solving style is quite similar to your mother's father's mother - if for example you discover their journal or letters.
People may comment not so much on a physical resemblance but on a psycho-mental similarity.
The physical resemblance would be the strongest between your maternal great grandmother and your immediate younger sibling, since both these relatives are encompassed in your third house.
14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso . (1999).
Consciousness at the Crossroads: Conversations with the Dalai Lama on Brain Science and Buddhism.
Zara Houshmand, R.B. Livingston, and B. A. Wallace (Eds.).
"When we speak of mental awareness , it does not always refer only to the subtle awareness.
The fact that the body is able to act as a basis for mental events is dependent on the pre-existence of a subtle form of consciousness."
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