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Bhava


Vidya-sthana

Mantra * Putra-Putriki * Santana * Suta * Buddhi

Bhava-5


the fifth house

nati * intellegentia

"creativity, celebrity, children "


* 5th-from-any-lagna * 5th-from-Chandra

the learning classroom of vidyasthana-5 = ruled by Professor Surya

vidyapathi-5 in 12 bhava

The Fame of Politics * The Politics of Fame

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  1. bhava-1
  2. bhava-2
  3. bhava-3
  4. bhava-4
  5. bhava-5
  6. bhava-6
  7. bhava-7
  8. bhava-8
  9. bhava-9
  10. bhava-10
  11. bhava-11
  12. bhava-12

Vimshottari Periods of the Rulers of Bhava-1-to-12

Creativity * Children * Celebrity * Royalty * Romance * Genius * Games * Uniqueness * Entertainments * Drama * Intelligence * Ideals

The Great Thought

brilliant, glamorous, romantic, radiant, solipsistic, self-referential, flamboyant, privileged, celebrated personalities

egocentric personalities often found in worlds of politics and entertainment


Creativity, authorship, autocracy; children of body, mind, and spirit:

politics, theatre and drama; politics, performance art; self-expression,

romantic love,

Divine Intelligence ,

celebrity, literature, brilliance, good luck; spontaneous genius;

gambling, speculation, charismatic winning of competitions and campaigns

dwadamsha = table of 12 sub-portions of bhava-5

vidyapathi-5 in 12 sthana

BPHS = Putra Bhava

Bhava -5 = angles to 12 sthana

Putra Santana Suta Bhava

Surya main page

Children

Politics

vidyapathi-5 in the 12 domains

Dwadamsha of Putra Bhava

Tony Bennett

(theatrical singer popular performer, age 84)

"If you are creative, you get busier as you get older."

14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso
  • How to Expand Love: Widening the Circle of Loving Relationships

  • translated and edited by Jeffrey Hopkins. p.82

"Those training in great love should forsake self-centeredness and engage in the Buddha's practice, the root of which is compassion.

You may be thinking, Love is indeed very profound, but I do not have the skill to practice it; I will focus my efforts on practices aimed at getting myself out of cyclic existence instead.

  • On one hand, this is true, because you should choose a path of development appropriate to your ability.
  • On the other hand, there is great advantage in attempting the highest degree of love you can.

Even if you cannot actually implement the practices of love and compassion, merely hearing about them establishes powerful predispositions for future success.

This can be amplified by planting prayer-wishes aspiring to altruism.

  • Do not be discouraged; it is difficult to absorb such a profound perspective.
  • Be courageous and think of your future potential.

It is particularly important to do the best you can."

light, delightful,

brilliant, bright,

glimmer, glitter, glow, glory, glamour,

sparkle, spark, splendor, spotlight,

spectacle, speculation, spectacular

royal, regal, righteous, reich, rich, right,

romance

magnus, magnificent,

celestial, celebrations, celebrity

king, queen, clown, court, courtier, courtly love

star

jewels and ornaments - romance and royalty - celebrity and children - games and gambling - amusements and entertainments - fortune and luck

Learning Style - Learning Disabilities -

Independent Thinking and Individual Thought* unique individual intelligence

Creative arts and fine literature

Divine Intelligence * Prestige - Muse - Speculation * Politics * Fame

Theatre * center-stage roles * Celebrations - Festivals - Amusement - Divine Light * Self-Expression * solipsism * self-centeredness

Sruti - Smriti

wealth from speculation - Stock Market -


Admiration - Adulation - Applause - Approval - Acclaim - Authorship - Authenticity - Adventure

Ego-validation

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Maharaja Serfoji II of Tanjavur and his son Shivaji II.

Tanjavur, Tamil Nadu, India. Mid-19th century. Wood, lime plaster, water-base paint, gold leaf, glass.

Source: Peabody Essex Museum

"Putra" the creative intelligence, is seen through:

  • 5th house from radix lagna and L-5

  • 5th from Chandra and its Lord

  • 5th from procreative karaka Jupiter and its Lord

  • lord of L-5's navamsha house

Rajatarangini , 8.335

"The ruler of Lanka (Ravana), the conqueror of the worlds, got defeat from the animals (the monkeys).

The best of the kings, the Kuru king (Duryodhana), suffered a kick at the head.

At the end, everybody in common with everyone else suffers humiliation, which takes away his respect.

Who then is he, who under the influence of conceit, thinks that he is great?"

V. S. Apte, Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary , p. 1029

Puttrah:

  • sons * children

  • putraki, putriki * daughter

  • a child, animal's young

  • anything little or small

Vocabulary for Suta bhava

Koeln Digital Sanskrit Lexicon

Suta:

  • impelled, urged

  • allowed, authorized

  • pressed out, extracted; born, engendered

  • the expressed Soma. Juice, a Soma libation

  • begotten, brought forth; a daughter, a son, child, offspring

  • the 5th astrological house

  • the plant Alhagi Maurorum

  • one that has, brought forth (young); a woman who has given birth to a child

  • quicksilver

  • the sun

  • Bhava-5 (putrah bhava)

  • Arudha- 5 (A5)

  • 3rd-from-Mangala

  • weapons

  • Writings and publications

commentary by Pt Narasimha Rao

"Let us take the 5th house as another example.

It shows intelligence, following, devotion etc.

The 5th house in D-20, the chart of religious activities, shows one's devotion (bhakti) in religious activities.

A5 in D-20 shows the things based on which the world forms an impression about one's devotion.

  • The mantras one recites, the poojas and the temple discourses one performs control the impression of the world about one's devotion in religious matters.

So A5 shows them.

The 5th house in D-10, the chart of career, shows the following one has.

  • The world forms an impression about one's following based on the power wielded by one.

  • A political leader in a position of power is assumed to have a lot of following.

  • So A5 can show the trappings of power enjoyed by one.

  • It can also show awards.

In D-24, the chart of learning, the 5th house may show intelligence.

  • A5 in D-24 shows the things based on which the world forms an impression about one's intelligence in learning.

  • These impressions are usually formed based on one's performances in examinations, one's scores in tests and one's academic distinctions.

  • So that is what A5 in D-24 shows."

BPHS Chapter 11: 6

"The learned should deduce from Putra Bhava:

  • amulets, sacred spells,

  • learning, knowledge,

  • sons,

  • royalty (or authority),

  • fall of position etc."

Phaladeepika, Ch1, Shloka 11-12

"A royal emblem, minister,

  • tax or toll,

  • Atma (self-culture)

  • wisdom, knowledge of the future (foresight)

  • Prana (life),

  • progeny,

  • belly,

  • Sruti (Vedic learning)

  • and Smriti (customary traditional knowledge depending on memory and transferred by word of mouth)

are represented by the 5th house."

Madhya Parashari, Ch. 9, Shloka 5

Sons [children], intellect, mantraa,

faith in God, heart, and maternal uncles

be deduced from the fifth house.

BPHS Ch. 7, Shloka 39-43

"The 5th from Guru ... stands for consideration respectively in respect of offspring..."

BPHS: Ch. 24, shloka 17

"The learned should deduce from Putra Bhava:

amulets, sacred spells, learning, knowledge, sons,

royalty (or authority), fall of position, etc.." [8th from 10th]

BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 1-3

Should Putra's lord be in Ari, Randhra, or Vyaya Bhava,

there will be no offspring.

BPHS Ch. 11, shloka 6

"If Dhana's lord is in Putra Bhava the native will be wealthy.

Not only the native, but also his sons, will be intent on earning wealth."

BPHS Ch. 15

"Should Putra's lord be in his own bhava, or in own Navamsha or in exaltation ,

the native will be endowed with comforts related to lands, conveyances, houses, etc., and musical instruments."

Jyotishi 1912-1998 B. V. Raman

Autobiography of a vedic astrologer , p.95

"...if the fifth house is subject to favorable combinations or aspects,

the son will become prominent

and the native himself would either secure authority by dint of effort

or secure mantra siddhi ."

Lord of domain-5 residence in the 12 bhava

agency =

Divine Intelligence, poetry, romance, children, brilliance, gamesmanship, showboating, sowing off, fame, glamour, royalty, celebrity, entitlements, centrality, bright lights, ego, performance arts, politics, literary genius, theatre, creativity, fashion, self-expression, independence, scholarship, ingenuity, selfishness, autocracy, autonomy, self-reflexivity, self-reference, self-evident truth, entertainment, amusement, gambling, games, speculative investment, good luck, confidence

How and where does the native express one's experience of creative intelligence, royal entitlement, theatrical genius, and brilliance in games?

vidyapathi-5 = an agent of romance, poetry, entertainments, and delight. Putra bhava is a natural bhava- of Surya, the king. vidyapathi-5 activities tend toward self-centered expression including stage performance, political popularity campaigns, idealized"falling in love", and speculative"I know I'm a winner" rolls of the dice,

  • vidyapathi-5 expresses confidence - whether true confidence (faith in the divine) or a rather more mundane confidence in the personal ego.

  • If vidyapathi-5 is a dominating graha such as empowered Mangala+ vidyapathi-5 becomes an active romancer, creator, procreator, and gambler within matters of the occupied bhava.

  • If vidyapathi-5 is weak or submissive, the vidyapathi-5 occupied bhava- becomes a venue of entertainments and amusements for the native; the activities of the occupied bhava- express make the native feel recognized and appreciated.


Matters of the bhava- occupied by vidyapathi-5 may produce acts of genius or self-will .

An instinct toward creative expression including both procreative (making fleshly children) and spiritually creative (making performance art and literature) inhabits the bhava.

One may feel blessed and fortunate to possess the intelligence necessary to express one's higher will .

  • bhava-5 is a joyful bhava-, surging with brilliant excitement of games and challenges to the strategic political intelligence.

  • It is a bhava- of Vishnu, the Sun - a bhava- of Divine Love and human romance.

  • Importantly, bhava-5 does not control marriage and romances, as well as the passionate love of one's miraculous children, are not to be confused with the balanced, wealth-building partnership of marriage.


The vidyapathi-5 is by nature positive and confident.

  • A deranged vidyapathi-5 can be over-confident, boastful, and arrogant.

  • vidyapathi-5 does have a tendency toward"politicking", always trying to get attention, and adolescent"showing off".

  • However presuming that vidyapathi-5 is reasonably well disposed, the lord of putra bhava brings happiness wherever He goes.

Das comments = "The lord of the 5

  • has at least one beneficial placement attribute."

"Your children may become very wealthy and fortunate. You will be very powerful, do well and will be a friend of highly paced people. You are intelligent and educated. You will have many people who listen to your advice."

Das commentary

= "The lord of the 5

  • conjoins the lord of the 6

  • ...conjoins the lord of the 12

  • ...conjoins the lord of the 8

and

  • is ... aspected by a benefic,

and

  • is not ...conjoins a benefic."


"A variation of "Daridra" Yoga is present in your chart. At times you will experience some poverty or financial difficulties. This is a common and general combination that many people have, and it accounts for the general type of troubles that come and go in most of our lives."

Das commentary:

" The lord of the 5 has at least one beneficial placement attribute."

"Your children may become very wealthy and fortunate.

You will be very powerful, do well and will be a friend of highly placed people.

You are intelligent and educated.

You will have many people who listen to your advice."

Royal Behaviors and Higher Knowledge

The royal court provides best opportunities for creative learning (Surya) that is not constrained by the fears of the common people (Shani) .

  • Advanced knowledge, high scholarship, academic patronage, graduate education in arts and letters, wisdom and intelligence, are counted in the portfolio of putra bhava.

Autocratic expressions of the royal court's charismatic authority include

  • entrepreneurial instinct and a management style which honors individual genius

  • rule by divine right Surya), not rule by the State (Shani) or by any law inherent in the human or material world, except as the royal figure embodies the state. Entitlement to rule flows from the divine through the courageous heart of the King (or Queen).

  • natural kindness (the core truth of an authentic king) toward subjects as a parent feels toward one's child

For management ability, entrepreneurial instinct, and overall fortune , see the exceptionally powerful tenants ofvidyasthana-5 for Microsoft 1955- philanthropist Bill Gates

~~Memories Dreams Reflections 1875-1961 Carl Jung "The creation of something new is not accomplished by the intellect but by the play instinct acting from inner necessity. The creative mind plays with the objects it loves."

Courtship and Romance

As the house of divine love (not marriage, only love!) Surya's own putra bhava signifies primarily the deepest loves of all: love of God and love of one's children.

Thus putra profiles the wellsprings of creativity, which flow forth in spiritual practice, literature, poetry, arts, cultivated exquisitry of life at court, and romance.

  • bhava-5 represents romantic (not necessarily sexual) love relationships outside of marriage, including romance before marriage , and after marriage. Romantic relationships are distinguished by their lack of a contract (7) that would specify obligations and rights within a marriage.

  • In general, bhava-5 can encompass all love relationships that have no legal or moral contract.

Exception:

  • Extra-marital affairs conducted during the course of a legal marriage (including carnal relations or adultery) are more generally read from bhava-12, 6th-from-7th, the house of privacy, escape, and bed pleasures. Naturally, vyaya bhava is also the house of animosity toward the spouse.

Other aspects of courtly life are included in the portfolio of bhava-5. E.g., parties and celebratory social gatherings, opportunities to express one's intelligence and wit, brilliant performances, ambassadors and ministers, various forms of amusements, (where the Muse is present), speculation, games and competitions of all kinds.

www.etymonline.com = English etymology of"king"

  • O.E. cyning , from P.Gmc. * kuninggaz

  • (cf. Du. koning, O.H.G. kuning, O.N. konungr, Dan. konge, Ger. könig).

  • Possibly related to O.E. cynn "family, race" (see kin ), making a king originally a "leader of the people;"

    • or from a related root suggesting "noble birth," making a king originally "one who descended from noble birth."

    the sociological and ideological implications make this a topic of much debate.

  • Finnish kuningas "king," Lith. kunigas "clergyman" are loans from Gmc.

  • O.C.S. kunegu "prince" (Rus. knyaz, Boh. knez),

  • In O.E., used for names of chiefs of Anglian and Saxon tribes or clans, then of the states they founded.

    • Also extended to British and Danish chiefs they fought.

  • As 10th-from-8th, putra bhava confers occult knowledge, intuitive perceptions, and professional recognition in occult societies.

  • Meena Chandra here provides mantra siddhi.

Children

Puer, puerile

Puer Aeternus

Putra = 'child'.

  • Putra bhava's significations include the full scope of one's relationship to children , including -- if there are difficult planets in or dhristi ("focus ") to putra bhava -- miscarriages and therapeutic abortions .

  • Putra sthana especially concerns the first conception, first full-term pregnancy, first live birth of a child, and the oldest living child. (These may be four different beings!)

Finding one's children in the chart -

count the emotional relationship with each child from Chandra lagna:

count the material relationship with each child (physical body, finance etc) from radix lagna:

For a fuller profile of each child, also count children

  • from Saptamsha lagna

  • and from the position of the graha which is radix vidyapathi-5 as that graha is located within D-7.

Luck

During Vimshottari dasha period s of graha which occupy bhava-5, some type of"luck" or surprising, delightful, enchanting fortune is expected.

"Luck"arrives in the form that is dictated by the natural characteristics of the graha as well as the graha's temporal bhava lordship.

For example,

(malefic) Ketu-Meena/5 will provide good luck and broader access to knowledge from L-2 + vidyapathi-5 Prosperous Guru, but the circumstances will involve some type of Ketu-style disconnection and abandonment.

  • Ketu forces surrender. One will need to leave a familiar environment, abandon a course of study due to dissatisfaction, or accept the social marginalization of a low-performing child.

  • Having accepted the disconnection in a sort of apathetic way, the native may move into a much more intelligent environment, enter a much more suitable and engaging course of study, or find that the difficult low-performing child does very well in a new, educationally specialized, non-conformist school.

  • Ketu will reside some distance from His mahadasha pati or bhukti-pati and also Ketu's lord will rule some houses measured from Chandra lagna. Consider these factors also, especially the relationship to Chandra which will reveal the emotional conditions framing the obtainment of a"lucky break".

(benefic) Guru-Thula -5 may provide good luck from yuvatipathi-7 +karmesha-10 Compassionate Leader Guru. However the circumstances will involve some type of large-scale responsibility which may seem a bit overwhelming at first.

  • One will need to quickly broaden one's scope of responsibility in order to provide counseling advice and leadership for others in order to generate an orderly environment in some organization. It does not seem like luck right away. It seems like engorgement. There is so much to do!

  • Guru is happy in the swabhava of His friend Surya. Unless the temporal lord is inimical, expansion of career and partnership responsibilities (7 and 10) will bring the native into the center of attention in a very positive fashion. Guru does limit the number of children (typically only one) but the child will bring amusement to the native . This is a very nice period during which presuming one can keep up with the workload of 7 (advising, contracts, legal negotiations) and 10 (regulations, bureaucratic functions, top-down orderliness) one receives much applause and feels expansive creativity in most departments of life.

  • The only caveat is to remember that Shani always follows Guru!

Odd types of luck:

  • Maraka graha or dushthamsha pati in putra bhava

  • Maraka in 5 brings death first with luck immediately following. Although it might not be obvious, shell-death sometimes paints a broad stroke of fortune . After the flesh-death, there is a manifestation of amusement, relaxation, charisma, and center-stage applause.

Gambling

When the fifth lord is positively disposed, one may have good luck in games of chance. Compulsive gamblers may be seen with Rahu-Ketuin putra or dharma bhava, or Rahu-Ketu with L5.

  • Mysterious inner patterns of lotteries, stock markets, mutual funds, pyramid schemes, and other large pooled monies which are controlled by people outside of one's family, are seen primarily in the mysterious 8th house.

  • By contrast, the conservative banking-storage behavior of dhana bhava is not playful, but rather serious about maintaining the family's traditional values - especially the family's long-held wealth.

  • As 4th-from-2nd putra bhava provides a"home for the native 's wealth - that is, typically, an investment container or"bank".

However, one's personal profits or losses from"playing" these funds are determined by putra bhava and its attributes.

Advice for the day:

If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle:

"Take two aspirin"and"Keep away from children"

The astrological picture of *genius* as expressed through children, artistic talent, creativity, or speculation (gambling) is expanded by noting:

  • 5th-from-5th = Dharma bhava

  • rashi (D-1) planets in Simha (Leo)

  • D-1 5th lord within navamsha

  • Sun within navamsha

  • D-1 5th lord within saptamsha (D-7, the 7th harmonic varga)

  • 5th-amza within D-7


Counting by Conceptions rather than live births

A word to the wise:

  • When searching for the role of a particular child in the parent's chart, it sometimes works better to count conceptions rather than live children. If a stressful planet like Mars occupies putra bhava, there may have been a number of partial pregnancies. The first live child could have been the fourth or fifth conception -- or more. This counting is tricky because physicians say 20% or more of natural pregnancies result in natural miscarriage before the end of the first trimester.

  • Those early bail-outs might or might not be significant in the mother's chart, depending on her emotional response to the fetal deaths. You will need intuition! If there have been therapeutic abortions, and the mother makes an inquiry about one of her children, that mother will need to be honest with her astrologer in order to find the right house for the particular child in question.Unlike natural or therapeutic abortions however, children lost after the first trimester such as stillbirths always have a pronounced traumatic effect on the mother and therefore they certainly"count".

Sometimes the mother consciously connects with the spirit of a failed pregnancy and sometimes she does not.

  • Sometimes the spirit attempting to incarnate in the failed pregnancy must go out, regroup, and try again. In this situation, if initial failed pregnancies were all attempts by the same original spirit, the first live child will continue to match the profile of mother's putra bhava. He just had to try several times to correctly match her childbirth energy.

  • If several different spirits were trying to get a body, but mom was not ready, and thus none of them succeeded, it might be helpful to find the successful birth by counting previous conceptions and not previous births.

  • If putra bhava does not seem to fit the role and personality of her first child as you know that child and the dashas don't match up, you might get a more accurate profile of the child by counting children based on conceptions rather than live births.

Each house lord residing in putra bhava will strongly mark the fate and character of the children.


Creativity, Performance Arts , Amusements

Putra bhava is the swabhava ofthe Sun, karaka for Self.

The most basic form of self-expression is procreativity, producing and/or raising children that resemble one physically, psychically, morally, or intellectually. The alternative or next level is creativity in the arts. Putra bhava contains the profile of the full range of self-expression through the literary, fine, plastic, and performance arts.

  • A strong putra bhava reveals talent in all aspects of dance and theater.

  • Literary self-expression, authorship, and fame through writings occur when positive planets such as Jupiter or Mercury are powerful in putra bhava.

However, the principle of bhavat bhavam , i.e., negative effects of a strong karaka in its own house , says that too much creative power in the dramatic or fine arts will usually deny or reduce children.

  • Karaka for putra bhava = Brihaspati, the expansion planet.

  • The more auspicious and unimpeded one's 5th-house Jupiter, the more one's creativity will incline toward arts of high civilization, and the less toward producing fleshly children.

Major performance artists will tend very much toward childlessness or a single child, unless they can arrange surrogate parents like housekeepers or nannies to actually raise their children.

  • Similarly great authors, screenwriters, play-writes, and other literary achievers tend very much toward a childless life. Ditto often, for master teachers (since great educators are by definition great actors) in all fields.

Childlessness is most simply known through an unproductive position of the 5th lord .


Intelligence

Suta bhava signifies "intelligence".

One definition of 'intellect' is 'the faculty by which humans can assess thoughts'.

  • Not generate that steady stream of conversational interactive repetitive thoughts which occurs in bhava-3 and under auspices of Budha.

  • Rather, 'assess' thoughts. bhava-5 reveals one's capacity to understand, evaluate, reflect, enliven, and enlighten thoughts which can be called"creativity".

Rashi, graha, and drishti upon bhava-5 will define the scope of creative intelligence.


Intelligence vs. Education = bhava-5 vs. bhava-4

bhava-4 = the socialization level of education.

bhava-5 = individual intelligence.

  • If bhava-4 gains strength while bhava-5 is weak, the native could be highly socialized, having completed college and even graduate school in a technical subject, without having the least drop of personal creativity. The mass of patriotic guardian types are very much like this: solid citizens, property owners who love and care for the land, and desire security above all.

  • If bhava-5 should surpass bhava-4, the native might have very little stability of upbringing or formal education -- and yet be wildly successful in publishing, industrial design, or performance arts. The typical celebrity of stage and screen is indeed undereducated formally. However as a class, they a charismatic intelligence in theatrical expression.


Many of the world figures featured in these Jyotisha pages will indeed have distinctive qualities in bhava-5; this self-selection is the result of their already having become famous!

  • However for students it may be valuable to take a look at the bhava-4 qualities (stability, security, citizenship, roots, socializing education) of the average good person in your circle of friends and family.

  • It is quite common (and commendable) in the West for natives to enjoy 16-to-20 years of formal education (bhava-4), but these many years of coursework do not produce any greater or lesser intelligence than the native enjoyed at birth.

  • The highly-educated individual is not any more creative; one is has accumulated knowledge in the form of property, which creates the professional security and entitlement of the knowledge-worker classes.

A strong bhava-5 gives the power not simply to own information as a form of property (bhava-4) but it gives the native the capacity to create new understandings, new meanings, and new expressions of the culture as it moves forward into higher levels of civilization.

Clearly bhava-5 generates children, who create precisely this forward movement into new ways of living. bhava-5 grants a speculative intelligence, an ability to see knowledge in the abstract and reason with it philosophically, as an abstraction or"idea" rather than as a fixed quantity of information bound into a cultural tradition.


The specific graha in bhava-5 and the vidyapathi-5 will show the nature of the intelligence.

  • Surya in bhava-5 = a radiant style of intelligence; likes performance art including theatre and politics

  • Chandra in bhava-5 = an intuitive style of intelligence, and often psychically gifted

  • Kuja in bhava-5 = competitive, dynamic intelligence. Brilliant battle plans. Damages children.

  • Budha in bhava-5 = focus on details and craft; expression in writing and messaging media, performance, and all other media. Sexual genius.

  • Guru in bhava-5 brings extraordinary broad optimism into the intelligence, a huge speculative faith which makes a wonderful coach and preacher.

  • Zukra in bhava-5 = design, design, design. Material beauty intelligence that envisions and makes attractive. Beautiful children.

  • Shani in bhava-5 restrains the creative intelligence and sets limits on personal speculation; tends to punish the native for taking creative risks. Children are a burden.

  • Rahu in bhava-5 gives wild risk-taking and taboo-breaking intelligence, high romance, and exotic ideas.

  • Ketu in bhava-5 gives a reflective and detached philosophical intelligence, which may seek no public output although it is very deep and valuable. Early separation from children.

Creative capabilities developed through education

bhava-4 properly rules education: that basic socialization which allows us all to get along. bhava-4 contains the entire portfolio of home, mother, emotional security, and social security. A good basic socialization, usually accomplished by the mother and very predominantly female early-education teachers, teaches children how to treat others properly.

After the fundamental moral education is accomplished in bandhu bhava, the native is equipped to set out upon the world stage.

  • If bhava-5 = auspicious, his education will provide a springboard for recognized social accomplishment.

  • Lasting fame, wealth from speculation, celebrity, authorship, literary and theatrical accomplishments are -- for most people in most civilizations -- the result of skills training, preparation, focused parental guidance, and the confidence which comes from an emotionally secure childhood.

  • Upon that foundation, can be laid the ego-glory of a strong putra bhava.

Thula lagnais known to create famous statesmen, because Shani the graha of discipline and practice, rules both bhava-4 and bhava-5. When Yogakaraka Shani is dignified for Thula-lagna, sustained creative ability in large-scale governance arises from the blessed combination of strong family foundations giving emotional security, plus strong personal intelligence giving genius.

  • Although not as powerful in effect, Sun-Moon will rule bhava-5 and bhava-4 for Mesha lagna.

  • Prediction of exceptional leadership abilities is reduced for Mesha lagna because both Surya and Chandra must be highly dignified to get maximum results.

Authority: bhava-5 creative fathering vs. bhava-10 punitive fathering

"... Autor father, from O.Fr. auctor, from L. auctor ..."enlarger, founder,"

lit."One who causes to grow ," ... from augere to increase (see augment)."

~~ www.etymonline.com

Celebrity through authority, as well as through notoriety, especially as gained through publication or through politics, is seen in putra bhava - the house of speculative creativity and fame.

bhava-5 version of 'authority' is not to be confused with the 'authority-figure' leadership roles of bhava-10.

In bhava-5, swabhava of brilliant Ravi, the native enjoys 'authorship', through publications of authoritative scholarship (which is then celebrated as an expression of divine intelligence) or by writing or performing works of high civilization, such as marvelous dances, theatrical plays, or musical compositions. This type of authority derives from the sacred sense of father as in Holy Father, the source of divine intelligence.

In bhava-10 = swabhava of dark and punitive Shani, authority is more of the social-control variety. Karma bhava represents the authority to impose laws, to maintain order, to enforce conformity, to make executive decisions which affect large groups of people who are organized into hierarchical ranks.

Naturally, Shani promotes a very different type of"authority", deriving from the human sense of 'father' as the maintainer of order in the home.

Residing at a mutually hostile 6-8 angle, Surya's authorship in the creative sense of"causes [divine intelligence] to grow" in bhava-5, is at permanent loggerheads with Shani's authority in the anti-creative, law-and-order sense of father, 'autor' in bhava-10.

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