only search B.P. Lama Jyotishavidya



Graha * Bhava * Rashi * Gochara * Amsha


AUM som somaya namah

AUM hreem shreem chandraya namah



emotional intelligence

eldest child

children in general

Graha or lagna that are located in 5th-from-Chandra

  • feel soothed by romance, politics, creativity, idealism, games-and-gambling, speculation

  • feel sentimental affection toward children, game-players, celebrities, those with dramatizing personalities

  • need sparkle, intelligence, entitlement

  • are comfortable in the center of attention

  1. Chandra in classroom-1
  2. Chandra in classroom-2
  3. Chandra in classroom-3
  4. Chandra in classroom-4 [svabhava] [dik-bala]
  5. Chandra in classroom-5
  6. Chandra in classroom-6
  7. Chandra in classroom-7
  8. Chandra in classroom-8
  9. Chandra in classroom-9
  10. Chandra in classroom-10
  11. Chandra in classroom-11
  12. Chandra in classroom-12

  1. [Chandra-Mesha]
  2. Chandra-Urisha [uchcha] [svakshetra] [mūlatrikoṇa if within 4-30 deg]
  3. Chandra-Mithuna
  4. [Chandra-Karkata]
  5. [Chandra-Simha]
  6. Chandra-Kanya
  7. Chandra-Tula
  8. Chandra-Vṛścika [nīcha]
  9. Chandra-Dhanus
  10. [Chandra-Makara-Draco]
  11. [Chandra-Kumbha]
  12. Chandra-Meena

Emotional cooperation

Vimshottari period of the ruler of 5th-from-Chandra is likely to contain a good deal of emotional creativity and pro-creativity.

The nature of the expectations is positive and self-directed.

If there are graha in occupation of 5th-from-Chandra, or the ruler of 5th-from-Chandra = exceptionally empowered, the situation can become much more emotionally intelligent.

psycho-emotional relationship based on ancient memory of
  • children, esp. one's eldest child

  • romantic idealistic love, poetic literature

  • politics, genius, divine intelligence, literary creativity, theatre, performance arts,

  • gaming, speculative finance; stock-market, casino; entertainment and amusement

  • physical body heart, solar plexus

For masculine-feminine partnerships, the 5th-from angle resembles Surya thus is a fairly easy placement for male self-centered energy.

However, the 5th-from angle is less suitable for the feminine harmonizing Shukra, who favors a 2nd or 7th angle. Therefore, the situation is different for masculine vs. feminine perspectives.



pitrikaraka Sparkling Surya resides in 5th-from-Chandra


Surya = comfortable in the center of attention

Emotionally based interest in politics, drama, celebrity, games, romance, creative art, entertainments.

  • POTUS-pair-39 Caregiving 1927- Rosalynn Smith Carter * Surya-yuti-Mangala [5] maintained an active political presence. Typical of Surya-5, her activism centered on children, political rights, and [with her husband Jimmy Carter] conduct of democratic elections [5]

  • Cleopatra 1932-2011 AIDS activist Elizabeth Taylor career dramatist. Also her seventh marriage to a USA Senator was explicitly political, and she served in his election campaign

Depending on other graha in 5th-from-Chandra, there may be a preference to decline the option to produce fleshly children in favor of producing children of the creative intelligence.

Yet, if children occur, the eldest child prefer Surya-oriented lifestyles, is strongly associated with the father, and may have self-centered qualities.

  • POTUS-05 Monroe Doctrine 1758-1831 James Monroe * Surya [uchcha] * his eldest daughter earned a reputation for aristocratic exclusivity and pretentious selfishness "in the French style" which made her unpopular in more plebian culture of Washington political society.

When Surya has unsavory duties, such as being a dushtamshapati, then despite wonderful prospects for career in entertainment, politics, and drama, one may nevertheless experience some sorrow.

  • Raag Khamaj 1920-2012 sitarist Ravi Shankar [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Surya-1 ++ Surya rogesha. RS suffered the premature death of his eldest son and the long denial of his unavowed elder musician daughter, Norah Jones.

Muscular Mangala resides in 5th from Chandra


Kuja occupies 5th from Chandra dynamic, direct, competitive, innovative creativity

Often a dramatic person with sexual vitality and an emotionally energized thrust to occupy the center of attention. Supports successful ventures in politics, theatre, fashion, celebrity roles, personal uniqueness, entertainment, games-gambling, and creative initiatives.

Exceptional example showing emotionally-driven creativity

  • Genesis 1951- songwriter drummer Phil Collins [Guru-yuti-Kuja] [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [9 entitlements]

  • POTUS-pair-34 Military Families 1896-1979 Mamie Doud Eisenhower threw legendary dance-parties to support her husband's career. Like most born under auspice of Ajaekapada-Chandra, MDE was a superb dancer. Kuja's impact is doubled in Kuja-ruled Mrigashiraa nakshatra ++ Mangala receives [dik-bala] in bhava-10 . Mamie had an impact.

Chandra activates 5th-from-Chandra

Remarkably auspicious placement for spiritual guidance and poetic creativity = 9th-from-svakshetra

Intuition, clairsentience, meditative awareness, and divinatory perceptions are opened.

Often a world-wanderer. Comfortable in the company of philosophers and priests. Shelters many travellers.

When Chandra activates 5th-from-Chandra, a simultaneous Chandra-Mangala yoga can produce significant treasury.

Meena-Chandra is more likely to donate excess assets toward the welfare of religious concerns such as ashrama, monasteries, and temples than to keep cintamani * mani * money in one's own pockets. Enjoys treasury but does not much collect assets unless some other graha makes acquisitiveness.

Bantering Budha resides in 5th from Chandra


Budha occupies the fortunate, entertaining, gambling, speculative, child-enjoying 5th-from-Chandra. All the children but particularly the eldest are likely to be talkative, explanatory, descriptive, communicative messengers

Budha occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = narrative, explanatory, descriptive, diagramming, gesturing, messaging, commercial, collaborative, sibling-cohort-oriented creativity


Generous Guru resides in 5th from Chandra


Guru occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = diverse, multiple-source, wisely abundant, doctrinal, theoretical creativity

From the perspective of the wife:

Dhava-karaka Guru in 5th-from Chandra. Husband's behavior often follows a pattern of romantic, poetic, creative and procreative. Since Guru's drishti into Chandra indicates abundance and fertility, Typically, there are Children from the marriage.

Female feels emotionally appreciative toward husband-1 and his intelligence, even if material circumstances of the marriage are growth-challenging.

5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the first husband. The 1st spouse likes children, gambling and games including speculative finance, romance, theatre, and politics. Often, the spouse needs center-stage attention; regal entitlements; applause, praise.

Shukra resides in 5th from Chandra


Shukra occupies emotionally-driven creative performance genius 5th from Chandra = musical, relationship-oriented, harmony-seeking, values-focused and wealth-accumulating entertainments

Shukra, from the perspective of the husbandly-companion

kalatra-karaka Shukra in 5th-from Chandra = 5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the wife[s] . The wife needs much attention. She may be a brilliant genius and/or have an idealistic or dramatic "high maintenance" personality.

  • Theory of Relativity 1879-1955 Albert Einstein [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Budha-[nicha-bhanga] Shukra-yuti-Surya-10 [uchcha] Shukra-yuti-Shani-10.AE was married twice. Lifepartner-1 was a trained physicist and writer. Although her contribution to AE's work was never publicly acknowledged, Einstein assigned Mileva Maric to receive all of his Nobel Prize money. Second marriage = 8th-from-Shukra= 5 romance, 3rd-from-3rd cousins.

Exceptions include Shukra-yuti-Ketu which generally signals a disinterest in the marriage partner or sidelining of the wifely-companion.

  • Moral Majority 1933-2007 Rev. Jerry Falwell [Shukra-yuti-Ketu] -4. Mrs. Falwell was a remarkablly invisible person considering the high-visibility of her husband in American public life. Shukra-4 indicates a home-based spouse. Ketu suggests disengagement.


Shani resides in 5th from Chandra

Public Figures


Shani occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = restricted, retarded, delayed, structured, status-seeking, disciplined, austere, elegant, limited creativity that responded first and foremost to the requirements of the social order

Stressed and pressured by celebrity. Children become a heavy responsibility, and children may be agents of social disapprobation.

  • UK-Queen 1926- Elizabeth-2 [Shani-11 parivartamsha Kuja-1-uchcha] * Three of her four children declared their intention to divorce, against the proscriptions [Shani] of the Church of England and thus potentially legally [Shani] debarring themselves from inheriting the royal throne [5] . Eventually, QE arranged to change the law. However, her children's behavior [especially the eldest] is known to have placed great pressure upon her sense of formal decorum [Shani].

Although one's personal children may be an albatross, one may nevertheless serve masses of young people in a socially systemic fashion.

  • Yogaville 1914-2002 Swami Satchidananda + Chandra * produced two children within marriage. After the death of his young wife, SSS undertook sannyas. He left his little sons in the care of his own mother. SSS had little contact with his children thereafter. Meanwhile, thousands of youthful devotee-students would appear, as evidenced by his vibrant putra-pati Mangala-1 with shining Surya-1.

May signal a postponing delay [but not denial] in the birth of children

  • France-Queen 1755-1793 Madame Deficit Marie Antoinette gave birth to a daughter in the eighth year of her marriage. For the first seven years of her unconsummated marriage, members of Marie's Hapsburg family had intervened with the disinterested King Louis [who favored fashion rather more than Feminine Nativities] to no avail. However, when a favored male courtier returned to Paris, the problem was resolved and the delayed legal heirs [Shani] were born. Nevertheless, three of the four died in childhood, and the survivor lost her royal title when the monarchy was abolished in 1794.

Beholden to politicians, gamblers, speculators, royalty, children, romantic lovers

The most favorable angle of public-private tension, at which the person achieves wisdom about one's fundamental emotional needs AND one's social obligations as a human citizen.

One is usually able to establish a balance between inner and outer viewpoints.

Overall a charismatic position which produces an increase in consciousness of the structure of divine intelligence, albeit through some struggles in the attempt to gain political approval [5] and complexities in the role of creativity and pro-creativity in the pursuit of approval.

May signal a delay in the arrival of children, or reduce the number of children, or indicate a source of pre-incarnationally planned stress regarding children. One may be separated via duty from the children - or from the fun, or the games, or the celebrities. Shani typically indicates a resource-scarcity struggle in raising the children which is most commonly a shortage of Time, but could also manifest as a shortage of attention or other blockage of the mechanisms of connection such as prevention of communication.

Either by their presence or by their absence,

  • Children, romance, celebrity, and politicsbecome the primary instructional agents in the [akashic memory patterning] struggle to transform emotional ignorance into emotional wisdom. These agents of Shani teach Professor Shani's curriculum by imposing conditions of delay, scarcity, blockage, resistance, and onerous duties.

One may be separated from the children by social duties [Shani] or face charges of negligence toward them.

Feels emotional pressure to achieve social approval through celebrity performance, displays of genius, or political authority.

Children become heavy responsibility, but the results of accepting this burden are morally and spiritually uplifting, but usually this benefit is recognized only in the second half of life.

One must work hard to protect and nurture the children . the native may find oneself in perpetual negotiation of the conflict between one's individual creative-intelligence relationship with one's children, versus professional and material responsibilities.

Yet, the results of staying with this conflict and working through each individual step of the process are indeed favorable over the longer term.

Shani in 5th-from Chandra = 5th-from characteristics in the emotional relationship to the second husband. The 2nd spouse likes children , games, theatre, and politics. Often, the spouse needs to be engaged in creative arts, or to receive center-stage attention, applause.

RAHU resides in 5th from Chandra

politics, entertainment, creativity, children, fashion, courtly life, celebrity, games, genius


Rahu occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = extraordinary, ambitious, taboo-challenging creativity

Sudden and dramatic emotional changes causes by eruption of ambitious or privilege-seeking desires in one's own children, one's lovers, or one's theatrical personality.


Unorthodox, fascinating, mixed-culture patterns in the relationship to offspring

  • On Golden Pond 1937- drama-fitness Jane Fonda [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [1] child from marriage-1 + child from marriage-2 + adopted daughter born into Black Panthers family

Often a very charming individual who delights in holding the center of attention.

  • Primary agents of personal and social disruption in life are one's children, one's romantic lovers, and one's own genius.

Disruption through Celebrity: one is changed and changes others via growth-challenge to cultural norms "on stage", as the recipient of copious public attention and admiration

Emotional disruption caused by feeding upon the chaos of politics, literary creativity, salience or fame in performance arts.

  • Macedon-King o-Megos 356-323 BCE Alexander-III has enjoyed continuous cultural fame [5] for nearly 2400 years. His lovers were several but his most remarkable and definitive romance was with his boyhood companion, bodyguard and military second-in-command Hephaiston. Rahu-Kumbha-3 is exceptionally strong and casts a fiercely relationship-amplifying drishti upon Mangala-7.

Volatile, roller-coaster experience in romance and courtly love.

tendency to fall in love [romance, 5] in socially dramatic, barrier-bending, taboo-twisting circumstances

  • Be Here Now 1931-2019 Baba Ram Dass intensive romantic bhakti-love for Guru, watery trine between [nīcha-Mangala-1 parivartamsha Chandra-5-nīcha] ++ [Surya-yuti-Rahu] [9]

  • born into a financially, educationally, and politically elite family, Calif-Gov-pair 1955- journalist Maria O. Shriver [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [2] fell in love with a beefcake body-builder who possessed a high school education

highly expedient, creative connection to politics, often based in the ambitions of the parents [Chandra] political foundation.

  • Pakistan-PM 1953-2007 Daughter of Destiny Benazir Bhutto was born into an intensely political family

  • Calif-Gov-pair 1955- journalist Maria O. Shriver [Shukra-yuti-Rahu] [2] = niece of POTUS-35 Profiles in Courage 1917-1963 JFK and USA-Sen-Mass 1932-2009 Teddy Kennedy born into a family of extensive political influence. On the basis [Chandra] of her family's power, was able to craft a successful "two-person" political career for her unlikely mate and herself.

  • POTUS-38 Time to Heal 1913-2006 Gerald R. Ford had a stepfather who raised him. Stepdad was a chief local Republican organizer.

  • USA-Sen-Tenn VPOTUS Climate Change 1948- Al Gore was born into the Gore political dynasty ++ [Somana-yuti-Guru] -Mula have mutual-exchange with Rahu-3

  • the father of Friends 1969- drama-fashion Jennifer Aniston + [Shukra-yuti-Shani] [5] was a dramatic actor [5]

  • 14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso 's father was a local political personality and a compulsive gambler [compulsive Rahu-5]

Primary agents of personal and social disruption in life are one's children, one's romantic lovers, and one's own genius.

Disruption through Celebrity: one is changed and changes others via growth-challenge to cultural norms "on stage", as the recipient of copious public attention and admiration

Emotional disruption caused by feeding upon the chaos of politics, literary creativity, salience or fame in performance arts.

KETU resides in 5th from Chandra


Ketu occupies emotionally-driven genius 5th from Chandra = absent, dispersed, disoriented, disregarding, wandering, pilgrimage-seeking creativity

Unlimited Ketu occupies the creative 5th-from-Chandra. Can be a signal of preference to not produce biological children but rather generate a higher creativity. Much depends upon Ketu's bhava and upon Ketu's planetary ruler.

If one chooses to welcome children, then often the eldest child is eccentric in character, perhaps apathetic about public life, or chooses an unconventional lifestyle. Much depends upon Ketu's bhava and upon Ketu's planetary ruler.

  • Standard Oil 1874-1960 philanthropy John D. Rockefeller fathered six children with his first wife. The eldest of the six was his only daughter who eschewed public attention. She almost completed avoided the elite social behaviors into which she was born. By contrast, the other five children were her famous siblings, the "Five Rockefeller Brothers" who became attention-getting players in many spheres of public life including government, banking, and real-estate.

  • General Electric 1847-1931 Thomas Edison * eldest child a son, descended into mental illness. A serious alcoholic, the son had complained for years of abuse followed by abandonment from his work-obsessed [Rahu-6] absentee father. The extreme results were not only the product of Ketu in 5th-from-Chandra but also 5th-from-Chandra = bhava-12 ++ ruler of 5th-from-Chandra = Mangala-8.

  • POTUS-pair-16 Illinois 1818-1882 Mary Todd Lincoln * three of her four sons died before reaching adulthood. Her eldest son tried to have his mother permanently committed to an insane asylum [but Ketu helped her to escape] .

  • Annunciation 1452-1519 logic Leonardo daVinci was a gay man who did not produce biological children. However, he was known to have conducted decades-long romantic [5] relationships with two of his top students.


[How Readings Work] [Sample Sacred Jewels Ratna Recommendation] [Seva]

Om_mani.jpgfile update = 26-Oct-2021

[Copyright © 1994-2024 by Barbara Pijan Lama] [Contact] [How to Request a Jyotishavidya Reading]

Barbara Pijan Lama Jyotishavidya Vedic Astrology Surya Sun Chandra Moon Mangala Mars Budha Mercury Guru Jupiter Shukra Venus Shani Saturn Rahu Ketu Graha Planets Dasha Timeline Calendar Nakshatra Navamsha Marriage Children Treasury Career Spiritual Wisdom Cycles of re-Death and re-Birth

The information on , including all readings and reports, is provided for educational purposes only. Wishing you every happiness and continuing success in studies!