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Vimshottari Dasha - Graha


  1. BPHS Ketu Mahadasha = 7 years
  2. BPHS Shukra Mahadasha = 20 years
  3. BPHS Surya Mahadasha = 6 years
  4. BPHS Chandra Mahadasha = 10 years
  5. BPHS Mangala Mahadasha = 7 years
  6. BPHS Rahu Mahadasha = 18 years
  7. BPHS Guru Mahadasha = 16 years
  8. BPHS Shani Mahadasha = 19 years
  9. BPHS Budha Mahadasha = 17 years

BP Lama Jyotishavidya * modern commentary

  1. BP Lama Ketu Mahadasha
  2. BP Lama Shukra Mahadasha
  3. BP Lama Surya Mahadasha
  4. BP Lama Chandra Mahadasha
  5. BP Lama Mangala Mahadasha
  6. BP Lama Rahu Mahadasha
  7. BP Lama Guru Mahadasha
  8. BP Lama Shani Mahadasha
  9. BP Lama Budha Mahadasha

विम्शोत्तरि दशा

Vimshottari Dasha

Dasa Vichaar


120 Year Life Timeline

Vimshottari = 120

The intimate psychology of a nativity is infinitely debatable. What is judged to be culturally inappropriate or self-destructive is rather subjective, in the eye of the beholder.

Vimshottari Dasha calendar = where the rubber meets the road in the samayavidya.

Factual events occurring in the lifetime should match correctly with the timelords and the bhava they control, or else there is something wrong with the birth datar.


-- Book of Ecclesiastes = Koheleth, 3:11


"He has made everything beautiful in its time.

He has also set eternity in the hearts of men;

Yet, they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end."

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Chart showing the number of months-days in each bhukti,

from page 226, Vedic Astrology: Guide to the Fundamentals of Jyotish by Ronnie Gale Dreyer

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BPL Commentary - value of Dasha systems


All of the legacy dasha systems which have survived the Kali Yuga = an inheritance from the previous descending Dvapara Yuga.

In any dasha system, the counting steps are logical but the intervals [lengths of the relative planetary periods] are usually not understood.

Returning to dvapara yuga after the long drugged slumber of Kali Yuga is like recovering from a coma.

Things are still fuzzy.

However, the fog is truly clearing now. The inherited shastra will soon make practical daily sense.

~~ Book of Ecclesiastes = Koheleth, 3:1-8


" There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:
  • a time to be born and a time to die,
  • a time to plant and a time to uproot,
  • a time to kill and a time to heal,
  • a time to tear down and a time to build,
  • a time to weep and a time to laugh,
  • a time to mourn and a time to dance,
  • a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
  • a time to embrace and a time to refrain,
  • a time to search and a time to give up,
  • a time to keep and a time to throw away,
  • a time to tear and a time to mend,
  • a time to be silent and a time to speak,
  • a time to love and a time to hate,
  • a time for war and a time for peace."

Length of Maha-dasha -

Major- Period

BPHS: Description of Mahadasha and Its Nine Bhukti

(sub-sections)

Duration 7 yrs +

BPHS Ketu Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Ketu Mahadasha

Ketu: withdrawal, witness Observer, forgiveness , dispersal, beheading, severance, abandonment, pilgrimage, meditation , surrender

Duration 20 yrs +

BPHS Shukra Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Shukra Mahadasha

Shukra-Venus: Finance, laxmi-luxuries, partnership, Permission to Acquire capital assets , sensual pleasures, sweets, sukra-sugars, balance, beauty, equity, parity, fairness, alliance, agreement, negotiation, trust, vows, balance, mates, match

Duration 6 yrs +

BPHS Surya Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Surya Mahadasha

Surya-Sun: Creative Intelligence, radiation, aura, ego, brilliance, centrality, divinity, the Soul-Self

Duration 10 yrs +

BPHS Chandra Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Chandra Mahadasha

Chandra-Moon: Astral Field, the Whole Mind, emotion, compassion, sympathy, intuition, nourishment, caretaking, mother

Duration 7 yrs +

BPHS Mangala Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Mangala Mahadasha

Kuja-Mars: muscular Movement, blood, competition, direct action, invasion, anger, Kinetic Energy

Duration 18 yrs +

BPHS Rahu Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Rahu Mahadasha

Rahu: Seized by Desire : Ambition, instrumentalism, expedience, deception, desire, mesmerizing, fascination, camouflage, trickery, delusion, slippery, slithering, smoke

Duration 16 yrs +

BPHS Guru Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Guru mahadasha

Guru * Jupiter: Wisdom-Expansion , procreation, abundance, inclusiveness, generosity, charity, divinity, golden, glowing, abundant, fertile, children, understanding, philosophical teaching-preaching, forgiveness

Duration 19 yrs +

BPHS Shani Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Shani Mahadasha

Shani * Saturn : Structure, maturity, the burden of responsibility, accountability, institutions, bureaucracy, delay, discipline, austerity, preincarnationally planned Cleanup , age, time, chronic situations, rectification, regulation, restriction, cold, dry, bitter, pinching, anxiety, social law, scarcity, fear of lack, fear of condemnation, fear of punishment

Duration 17 yrs +

BPHS Budha Mahadasha

BPL commentary on Budha Mahadasha

Budha-Mercury Logical Argument, messaging, Gesture, communication, evangelism, management, accusations, Explanation, conversation, mental Tasking

Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for 12 Earthen-body birthing indriya-lagna
  1. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Mesha indriya-lagna
  2. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Urisha indriya-lagna
  3. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Mithuna indriya-lagna
  4. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Karkata indriya-lagna
  5. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Simha indriya-lagna
  6. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Parthya indriya-lagna
  7. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Tulā indriya-lagna
  8. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Vṛścika indriya-lagna
  9. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Dhanus indriya-agna
  10. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Makara indriya-lagna
  11. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Kumbha indriya-lagna
  12. Vimshottari Dasha general social-material effects for Meena indriya-lagna
Q: Sir,

I am an engineering manager and have started reading vedic astrology by my interest.

I have read Laghu parashari few times and have following simple queries without its clarification i am not getting ahead:

1. As per laghu parashari, only functional nature of planet is important so there is no relevance of natural malific / benific in prediction??

2. When shloks of laghu parashari says, benific or malefic influence of planet, is that effect for 1. its own house or 2. House in which it is deposited or 3. Both?

3. While considering aspects of the planets, should we consider functional nature or natural nature? (Like jupiter is naturally benific but may be functionally malefic in some ascendant, than should we consider jupiter aspect good or bad in that?)

Regards


A: Namaste,

Thanks for your inquiry. I'm happy to know that you are beginning a serious study of the samayavidya.

Laghu Parashari (Jataka Chandrika) examines the planetary rulership basis of the Vimshottari Dasha timeline system, which is based in the rotating graha rulerships beginning with the at-birth ruler of Chandra's nakshatra and proceeding algorithmically throughout a pattern lasting 120 solar years.

Firstly may I strongly recommend to abandon the use of emotionally overcharged positive-negative adjectives such as " benefic, malefic, good, bad, harmful, dangerous, evil" etc.

Every graha is functionally helpful for certain psychological or material outcomes and that same graha can be dysfunctionally obstructive for other outcomes. There is no " good planet" and no " bad planet" . Rather, the actions of the graha are " good for a specific purpose" or " not so good for a specific purpose" – much in the way that rain benefits growing crops but rain is not so good for drying laundry.

Please do not fall into the trap of fearful superstition which has so permeated the culture of Jyotisha in recent centuries. If you are interested in the empirical results of particular planetary yoga, simply locate a public figure nativity which features that yoga, and study its effect in the context of a well-known public person's biography. It is not necessary nor is it ever recommended to approach Jyotisha with moral judgment, anxiety, or fear. Jyotisha is a spiritual gift which is meant to be used to help people to understand their lives and appreciate the presence of the Divine in each moment.

Interpreting the outcomes of the Vimshottari Dasha periods requires knowledge first and foremost of the KARAKA function of the graha, and secondly of the BHAVA-pati assignments from the Earthen-body birthing indriya-lagna , from the Chandra lagna, and from the navamsha-varga lagna. Additionally, consider any samchara-graha such as transiting Rahu-Ketu particularly as they affect Chandra, or Shani as He affects every bhava.

The best way to study Jyotisha is to examine as many nativities-with-biographies as possible. In other words, study nativities for people whose life story is known to you. These can be historical figures, celebrities, or members of your family. Study the outcomes of the Vimshottari dasha periods in their life stories.

Again, the most important characteristics of the bhukti ruler will be its

  1. karaka assignments
  2. bhava-activating rulerships relative to major lagna.

The Mahadasha-pati has powerful effects during the initial svabhukti when it sets the overall theme for the entire mahadasha. But after the svabhukti is completed, the individual bhukti-pati assume the major roles. The Mahadasha-pati continues to " set the stage" with major themes, issues, and purpose during the remainder of the mahadasha. The Mahadasha-pati is similar to a theatrical director in drama, overseeing all but after the svabhukti it is the bhukti-pati who create the results .

Wishing you and your family every happiness, healing from sorrow, guidance by inner light, and success in all of life's endeavors,

Sincerely,

Barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotishavidya

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In the Vimshottari Dasha predictive system, the planetary rulers always follows the same order of rotation Navagraha in the Vimshottari Dasha

Fixed order of Rotation =

  1. Ketu
  2. Shukra
  3. Surya
  4. Chandra
  5. Mangala
  6. Rāhu
  7. Guru
  8. Shani
  9. Budha

The length of each major period = mahadasha = is fixed.

The length of each sub-period = bhukti, antara-dasha = is also fixed.


To predict the events and experiences of each dasha/bhukti period, answer these questions - but not always in this order :)

  1. What is the natural character of the bhukti-pati ? Natural pleasure-giver (Chandra Shukra Guru)? Natural challenger (Shani Mangala Surya)? Natural neutral reporter [Budha]?

  2. Age at maturity ?

  3. Angle between mahadasha-pati and bhukti-pat i?

  4. Radical placement of bhukti-pati? Which bhava are ruled as counted from the indriya-lagna ?

  5. Which bhava are ruled as counted from the kundali Chandra lagna?

  6. Nakshatra location ?

  7. Bhukti-pati placements in Varga ?

  8. coordinating transits of the bhukti-pati, gochara Shani, samchara Rahu-Ketu ?

1. Natural character of the Ruling bhukti-pati


Professor Shani, a natural challenger papagraha, tends to produce a tough period. If Shani rules a beneficial bhava, then the results might be fabulous - but getting there always, with Shani, requires burning off some serious karma.

Professor Guru, a natural pleasure-giver, tends to produce ease. If Guru rules a more challenging bhava (e.g. for Tula born) His period might give the expected challenging results. Nevertheless, achieving the Learning Objective is likely to be perceived as an expansive and wisdom-generating process. -Brihaspati, who listens to prayers, carries the results of charitable actions across the oceans which connect parallel lives , into the current life.

if Kuja mahadasha occurs before age 28, expect mainly the physical, athletic, warrior dimension of Mars - none of the business edge, competitive savvy, etc. That emerges after Mars matures (one of the reasons Kuja Dosha is much more of an issue for marriages before age 28)

2. Angle between the mahadasha-pati (planet which rules the major period)and the bhukti-pati (planet that rules the sub-period)?


If the mutual angle from mahadasha-pati to bhukti-pat is favorable - 5/9 - 1/1 - 1/7 - 4/10 - then by and large the period should be comfortable and prosperous.

3. Counting from indriya lagna (radical lagna) which bhava does the bhukti-pati own and occupy


for example, the mahadasha of Vriddhi-pati-11 is a gainful period in general

bhukti of vidya-pati-5 favors conception or acquisition of children and is also excellent for students, working with adolescents, and everything to do with creativity, politics or entertainment

Graha occupying bhava-7 may give the spouse considerable power during its bhukti

4. Counting from Chandra-lagna, which bhava does the mahadasha-pati own and operate?

During a Surya bhukti for Makara indriya-lagna native, if Chandra occupies Dhanus, ravi activates 9th-from-Chandra - a fortunate angle which suggests emotional healing benefits from receiving wise religious advice. Even if other circumstances of the dasha-bhukti in effect would be difficult, this one important angle from radix-Chandra-to-bhukti-lord, provides an emotional blessing
5. Nakshatra location of the bhukti-pati

Nakshatra effects are more subtle. Nakshatra, the 27/28 mansions of the Earthen-Moon, derive historically from the most ancient lore of Jyotisha - well before the emergence of solar angles.

  • Therefore, naakshatra reckon our subtle spiritual, intuitive and emotional condition with special delicacy. (One reason why the Moon's Nakshatra is so crucially important to marriage matching!)

  • e.g., the Nakshatra of karmesha -10 can indicate vocation, via spiritual calling to service

6. Which Varga houses " wake up" when the mahadasha-pati is in control?

E.g., for Tula indriya-lagna, chandra is always karmesha -10 , and good therefore for career. Now check the D-10 (dashamamsha -10 ) - is Chandra a good lord in D-10 as well? Is Chandra in a good house and sign?

In a good angle from the mahadasha-pati? Otherwise well positioned? If so, expect not just " good" results from the Chandra bhukti - expect greatness! (See how the dashamamsha affects world political leaders. )

Exempli gratia, how would Chandra affect the marriage? Is Professor Somana beneficial bhava-pati within the Navamsha varga? Things might go swimmingly in career, and with a bumpy road in marriage, or visa-versa. Check out all the major vargas to get the bigger picture.

7. Major transits of the bhukti-pati.Esp the Pushkara Navamsha.

Note: generally, the ONLY transits which have a measurable, major impact on life events are transits OF -or- TO the current bhukti-pati.

Transits of Shani and Rahu are the only exceptions they have their own clout independent of the current bhukti-pati However, if Shani is also the bhukti-pati during a major movement of gochara Shani, expect double-impact.)

Movements of fast planets like Chandra, surya, shukra, Budha have very little noticeable effect. However, during a bhukti of Chandra, surya, shukra, Budha - if a bigger planet like Guru or Shani, rahu or Mars transits over Chandra, surya, shukra, bantering Budha's natal position - yes, there is an effect for sure.

Occurrence of Auspicious events = strongly tied to the Transits of the bhukti-pati through the Pushkara Navamsha .

It is important to track the transits of the bhukti-pati and note when this empowered graha enters a Pushkara Navamsha, and especially when it transits a Pushkara Bhagya degree.

There is only one Puskhara Bhagya degree in each rashi.

Transits of the Vimshottari bhukti-pati (1) from beginning to end of a Pushkara Navamsha (2) upon the sensitive and auspicious Pushkara Bhagya Degree and (3) across a Vargottamsha navamsha (there is one in Vrishabha, one in Karkata, and one in Dhanus) are harbingers of excellent fortune .

The fortune manifests according to the karaka nature of the graha, not according to bhava lordships in the radix or any varga. E.g., Guru brings children, shukra brings relationships, mangala brings competitive wins, surya brings recognition and applause, etc.

Gochara Rahu-Ketu

if samchara Rahu-Ketu are travelling through the radix sign of the current bhukti-pati, the nodes *amplify * bhukti events

Rahu-Ketu movements are especially influential during Abhukti of Rahu or a bhukti of Ketu.

Gochara Rahu's singularly strongest effects are upon the Moon

  • like Sade-Sati (Saturn transit Moon), Rahu-transit-Chandra is an independent transit that will force" reinventing oneself" every 18 years.

  • The nature of the reinvention is very much influenced However, by the bhukti-pati in power during this 18-month transit.

If Rahu occupies the growth-challenging Angle of radix 12th-from-Moon, rahu's movements during Chandra Mahadasha should be watched very carefully in case they move into an axis where they AMPLIFY subconsciously-driven negative patterns in the person's behavior.

  • If Rahu occupies 12th-from-Moon and Rahu is carefully watched for the 10 years of Chandra Mahadasha, and the negative desires in one's subconscious are allowed to reveal themselves in a therapeutic setting, any and all of the sanctuary-based healing modalities can be effective to provide A profound healing.

Sadly, hardly anybody does this. Most people just get deeply invested in being a Victim, suffer vicious attacks and blame it on others...

What is the client's chronological age and social position at time of planetary period?


A younger person is naturally concerned with different goals, and lives under different constraints, than an older person.

  • Exempli gratia, the dematerialization of a parent would be a catastrophic shock to a child by contrast a sad, but acceptable, loss to a mature person.

biological dematerialization is an event associated with periods of maraka activates-2 and maraka rules-7 for the native dhana-pati-2 +L7-from-Moon for mother dhana-pati-2 +maraka rules-7-from-karakas for various relatives, etc. However, afrightening topic for most people and its occasion must be interpreted for likelihood in different age ranges - and always delicately, in social context

Dasha/bhukti of Vidyapthi-5+dharmesha -9 is a prime time to conceive children in the reproductive years - presuming vidya-pati-5 and L/9 are well-supported. But after the reproductive years have faded, expect these planets to produce grandchildren, creative works like books and theatrical plays, and religious inspiration.

Occasionally world leaders do arise from the ranks of blue-collar labor sometimes an obscure bureaucrat becomes a national celebrity. But usually, predict a range of benefits for beneficial planets that are consistent with the person's existing social position. A lifetime peak of recognition for one's creativity might be a Pulitzer Prize, or it might be winning the State Fair Blue Ribbon for the year's most beautiful quilt.

Predict fame or achievement consistent with the person's cultural aspirations. Predict embarrassment or loss according to the person's existing values. As the slogan goes, one man's ceiling is another man's floor.

Using the Vimshottari Dasha for Timing of Events

Reasoning must account for these factors with no exceptions

– [1] bhukti pati

– [2] gochara R-K

– [3] gochara Shani

– [4] chronological age

– [5] cultural beliefs such as appropriate age for marriage, number of simultaneous spouses, etc.

Socially recognized events like joining into a marriage contract would have to appear correctly in the Vimshottari Dasha.

If not, do not go looking for alternative dasha to explain the event date.

If the documented event cannot be justified in the VD calendar, the birth time must be rectified.

Q: Is it the initial sign on the Vimshottari (change of periods) that controls the whole line, or is each segment ruled by the sign opposite the date until the next date. You kept referring to 9/04-4/07 as the period of Jupiterr.


A: Your Shukra Mahadasha (major period of Venus in the Vimshottari Dasha system) runs from 9/1994-to-5/2004.

Venus Mahadasha is always 20 years long, but the first day of Venus Mahadasha can occur at any time, from age zero to age 100, depending on the degree of the Earthen-Moon at birth.

Your bhukti [sub-period] of Jupiter occurs WITHIN the 20-year Mahadasha of Venus. This bhukti runs from 9/2004-to-4/2007. The effects of the bhukti are more noticeable, because the bhukti period is shorter and the effect of the bhukti-pati is more acute.

Using the medical metaphor, amahadasha-pati creates the chronic, low-level condition which subtly influences everything during its tenure. The bhukti feels more ature. Bhukti effects are more dramatic, but briefer. Bhukti effects really get our attention, but when they are finished, our minds again notice that chronic underlying condition which the mahadasha creates in the background.

We tend to notice the acute symptoms more readily, but it's the relationship between the chronic " background" psychic pattern of thoughts and emotions from the mahadasha, vis-a-vis the acute " foreground" relationships and experiences from the bhukti -- plus the effect of relevant transits -- that gives us the total dasha-bhukti experience.

Wishing you and your family every happiness, healing from sorrow, guidance by inner light, and success in all of life's endeavors,

Sincerely, BPL

Q:

Do each of the planets bring consistent lessons each time they cycle thru the vimshottari dasha?

Is there a book or reference that would tell me what each brings?


A : Great question! This is the heart of Jyotishashastra.

Each planet has its own personality and characteristics.

It's as if each planet's signal pattern sits in the aura. Sometimes the signal transmits near to the field of consciousness, and the signal transmits far from awareness. Often the signal is transmitting but it is recognized only within the realms of the subconscious.

Occurrence of that planet's major periods (mahadasha and bhukti) means that planet's effects will come nearer to our field of consciousness, we will be more aware of that effect.

But are the effects in" real life" - , the realm of the five senses - always that same?

For example, does each Saturn bhukti feel the same?

No.

A portion of the effect will be the same. E.g., for a Shani bhukti: Shani occupies a certain sign and degree He aspects and is aspected by other deities. He has a consistent character, which determines the way he carries out your responsibility-conformity-effort agenda. That character will be evident in each Shani bhukti. It will always be about responsibility-conformity-effort and each Shani bhukti will be a more mature reiteration of His characteristic way of making your social obligations clear to you.

So, chandra/Shani, then Rahu/Shani, then Guru/Shani - then (yowza) Shani/Shani - will all have the typical bear-down characteristics of Shani, say maybe 50% of the total experience is " classic Shani" .

But the majority of any dasha/bhukti effect during its term, is caused by the **angular and primordial relationship between the mahadasha-pati and the bhukti-pati.**

If Saturn has a friendly relationship to the mahadasha-pati, the overall experience may be quite beneficial and productive, even though marked by Saturn's typical agenda of discipline, austerity, the burden of responsibility.

If Shani occupies an unbalanced angle from the mahadasha pati, the auspice is not ideal.

Shani might occupy a challenging angle from the mahadasha pati and a balanced angle from kundali indriya-lagna, or chandra-lagna. He might rule beneficent bhava in navamsha. So any number of benefits may emerge from e.g., aChandra/Shani bhukti - even if Chandra/Shani occupy shad-ashtaka 6-8 angles, from each other.

It is not iseful to be simplistic.

But at the same time, there are major patterns and there are minor patterns. The major patterns have the strongest impact, and we attend to those first in our predictions and in our life planning.

So, continuing with the Saturn example, some bhukti's of Saturn, with the worst possible relationship to the mahadasha-pati, will give just devastatingly difficult results. (Survivable, of course, but undeniably tough.)


There is a rule in Jyotisha that says the bhukti of any planet in the third amsha from Mercury can exhibit mentalism, communicative ability, and accelerated pre-incarnationally planned payback, when Mercury is the mahadasha-pati and that planet in 3rd-from-Mercury is the bhukti-pati.

If for example Shani's portfolio has social stress factors, and Saturn happens to be located in the radix 3rd-from-Mercury, and THEN the Vimshottari Dasha rolls around to the Mercury-Saturn bhukti, depression and psycho-emotional struggle in general, poor choices caused by stress, usually relative state of poverty, delays, demands of short-term travel, burden of unsustainable responsibilities... can be the result.

Using the principles Jyotishavidya = one may plan for these periods and not over-react or take it too personally when the consensus-reality arrives. Neutrality is always the success element in any of these forecast-able difficult periods.

The opposite result is also entirely possible. That is, Saturn might occupy an excellent angle from the mahadasha-pati.

For example,

the 10th-from any planet does generally produce respected public reputation, professional achievements, recognition for valuable service to society, etc. Saturn tends to induce a disciplined approach to social responsibilities.

But, in Shani's position 10th-from a beneficial mahadasha-pati, He can easily channel that discipline and austerity - tapasya -into a solid, productive work ethic that brings praise to the person for completing difficult but important tasks accomplished with dignity and skill.

Hard work and delays, which are Saturn's signature behaviors, may be part of any Saturn bhukti. Yet, under the right planetary circumstances, the experience of hard work can be very satisfying. And certain delays are life-saving.

So, long answer to your great question!

  • // Yes // there are characteristic similarities between all Saturn bhukti, or all Venus bhukti, or all Jupiter bhukti, which arise from the essential behavior of that planet in the radical kundali (and so some extent the navamsha varga also.)

  • And // No // because the majority of the effect comes from the particular angular relationship between the mahadasha-pati and the bhukti pat.


It's important to remember that Jyotisha is a vidya and not a mechanical science.

No specific percentage can be applied to the radix planetary character versus the angle of relationship proportion because of the MANY complex factors involved in evaluating BOTH the planet's nature AND the mahadasha-bhukti-pati relationship.

That's why Jyotisha is so darned complicated and why predictions are always offered humbly and with a grain of salt :)

Principled Jyotishavidya valuation is complex. Most individual astrologers, no matter how skilled they may be, will at most modestly consider themselves as senior students of the historic knowledge tradition of Jyotishavidya.

It is always possible to miss an influential factor when we are making predictions based on dozens of real-time interactive subconscious and conscious perceptual effects. Nevertheless a calm and skillful survey of the major planetary factors will give us a reasonable map of the 120-year Vimshottari timeline that can allow us to prepare for the easy and less-than-easy times ahead!

It may be possible to gain some additional direction on the issues of relationship between mahadasha-pati (mahadasha-pati) and bhukti-pati (bhukti-pat) by reading The Astrology of the Seers , by David Frawley. Frawley is a noted scholar of वैदिक (vaidika) culture and history.

Some of his conclusions are controversial among historians, but Frawley's books always provide thorough presentation of the subject. There is a heavy dose of vaidik mythology and religious precept in the book. which might give it a foreign aura to beginners. Nevertheless, pandit Frawley writes very clearly and his books are received as a blessing by a earning-motivated audience.

Q: I went to a website that produces Vimshottari dasha printouts, and typed in my husband Obafeimi's birth date.

His birth time is not known, but I wanted to see if by inputting a variety of possible times I could narrow in on some that looked more likely than others.

However, it seems like all day during my husband's day of birth, in his city of birth (which we know well) this Vimshottari Dasha timeline does not change.

Is it possible that nothing will change in the Vimshottari Dasha for his date of birth, so that it doesn't matter what time he was born?


A: Heavens no!

It matters tremendously what time he was born!

The Vimshottari Dasha calendar does change with each passing minute of the birth time.

The Vimshottari dasha start-point is set via the degree of the Earthen-Moon.

  • If Obafeimi had been born at 03h00, his Moon would occupy Śrāvaṇa-Nakshatra which is ruled by the Moon. 03h00 birth time Moon resides in the 1st quarter of Śrāvaṇa-1st quarter (pada) is ruled by Mars, so at 03h00 he would be born into a Moon/Mars period.

  • If he were born at 12h00, the Moon would still be in Śrāvaṇa, but Moon would have advanced to the third quarter of Śrāvaṇathat is ruled by Saturn, so he'd be born into Moon/Saturn period as the start point for his life script.

  • If he were born at 21h00, the Moon would be in 4th quarter of Śrāvaṇa, the quarter-lord is Venus, so the start point would be Moon-Venus (almost the end of the Earthen-Moon mahadasha).

  • If Obafeimi were born at 23h59, his Moon would occupy the final seconds of the 4th quarter of Śrāvaṇa, quarter lord is Surya (Sun) and although technically he would be born into Moon/Sun period, the sun bhukti would be almost expired so that his Vimshottari dasha instruction-script would start into the Mars/Mars period in early May of 1959, just weeks after his birth.

So yes, all day on 04 July 1977, in Lagos, naigeria, obafeimi's Moon occupies Śrāvaṇa-Nakshatra .

  • Yet, every few hours, the Moon proceeds into a new quarter of the Nakshatra, and when the Moon's birth quarter changes then the starting bhukti changes.

  • The starting bhukti is the quarter-lord.

  • Each quarter also has sub-lords which are used to determine the tertiary and quaternary Vimshottari period lords.

You were born with Moon in Anuradha pada-3

Lord of Arudra = Rahu.

  • The lord of the third quarter of Arudhra is Ketu.

  • So you Ayoka have a Vimshottari dasha that starts in Rahu-Ketu bhukti

QUOTATION from Tsong-ka-pa and 14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso . (1987).

Deity Yoga in Action and Performance Tantra. .

Jeffrey Hopkins (Ed.).


" We have happiness of mind and freedom from anxiety to just the degree that our minds are tamed....

Once we want happiness and do not want suffering , we should engage in the means to achieve happiness and eliminate suffering.

Practice is based on reasoning, not force it is up to oneself.

The time for engaging in these techniques is now.

  • Some feel, 'I did not succeed in this lifetime I will ask a lama for help in my future life.'

To think that we will practice in the future is only a hope.

  • It is foolish to feel that the next life will be as suitable as this.


No matter how bad our condition is now, since we have a human brain, we can think since we have a mouth, we can recite mantra. No matter how old one may be, there is time for practice. However, when we die and are reborn, we are unable even to recite OM mani padme hum.

  • Thus, it is important to make all effort possible at this time when we have obtained the precious physical life-support of a human."

Q:" If Saturn is badly placed, will it give bad results only for the entire 19 years of its MahaDasha?"

A: There is no such thing as a " badly" placed graha nor are there " bad" results.

To frame the Jyotisha enquiry in this self-harming fashion is to fall victim to superstition, self-criticism and self-doubt.

All placement of Shani (and every graha) are purposeful and beneficial.

Some placements are easier and more effective for some purposes and more difficult or more effortful for other purposes, but each placement is fully intentional. It is similar to a college curriculum, where some classes are relatively easy and familiar but other classes are more growth-challenging and require much more effort to earn a passing grade.

There is no such thing as an evil planet or an evil dasha period. However, due to fear which paralyzes our intelligence, ignorance may falsely assert that certain graha create punishment. This is utterly false and yet, once experiences what one believes one should be experiencing! (Review your dogma.)

Each graha in its full configuration -- which bhava ruled, which drishti cast, which drishti received, which dasha timings -- was put into place by the eternal spirit of the person during the planning stage before birth.

Each graha should be * honored * in its detailed character. There is no justification for fear or dread.

Earth is a School

Professor Shani is a strict teacher. There is a lesson, or series of lessons, which the spirit is craving to learn. The lessons are in fact the offering of a Gift, the gift of self-knowledge. In English, the word student derives from Latin studere which means to be eager . Students are the eager ones .

Make a comparison between one's own Shani placement versus the nativities of those with similar Shani, and see how those others handled their Shani mahadasha. Public figures are good, because many of their life details are available on the internet, e.g. Wikipedia.

In general, all graha provide steady influence during the lifetime, but naturally during the mahadasha the effects are heightened, and especially during the svabhukti and chidra-dasha, effects are more dramatic.

Wishing you and your family every happiness, healing from sorrow, guidance by inner light, and success in all of life's endeavors,

Sincerely, barbara Pijan Lama, Jyotishavidya

" and he said to them,

" Therefore every scribe who has been trained for the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house,

who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is old."

~~ Matthew 52 (International Standard Version)

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