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Herbert Hoover signature

POTUS-31 [1929-1933]

Great Depression

USA Secretary of Commerce [1921-1928]

co-author of 30 books

expert in mining and metallurgy

Herbert Hoover [Huber]

a.k.a. Herbert Clark Hoover

a.k.a. " Bert"

Earth-birth Tuesday-10-Aug-1874

dematerialization 20-Oct-1964 [age 90]



POTUS-31-partner [ 1929-1933]

National Leader of Girl Scouts [1917-1944]

author of 30+ books

Lou Henry Hoover

Earth-birth Sunday-29-Mar-1874

dematerialization 07-Jan-1944 [age 69]

nativity of Lou Henry Hoover


POTUS-31 [1929 until 1933]

mining engineer


Herbert Hoover


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tentatively rectified by BP Lama Jyotishavidya

charts + graphs + tables = produced by Shri Jyoti Star - adapted by BP Lama


" Usually cast as a President defined by his failure to contain the Great Depression, Hoover's story is far more complex and more interesting.

To begin with, Hoover was an activist reformer, albeit one without the political skills needed to sell himself and his programs to Congress and the public.

A shy man, he insisted on keeping much of his life and good deeds out of the public eye. Only in politics is this a character flaw.

Yet, it prevented those around Hoover from portraying him as a compassionate leader, or warding off portrayals of him as a cold, uncaring figure responsible for nearly everything that was going wrong in the American economy.

As a result, Hoover's presidency remains largely an untold story.

It began when Calvin Coolidge chose not to run for a second term in 1928. Hoover, then secretary of commerce -- and joked Washington wags, "assistant secretary of everything else" -- made no secret of his interest in succeeding Coolidge.

Few men seemed so prepared for the nation's highest office.

After all, he had fed Belgium, run the U.S. Food Administration for Woodrow Wilson, revolutionized the Department of Commerce, and ministered to victims of the Mississippi River flood.

More realistic than Woodrow Wilson, more respectable than Warren Harding, more imaginative than Calvin Coolidge, Hoover appeared an ideal candidate.

Few Americans asked whether the Great Engineer had a political temperament."

Rising Nakshatra

Masculine Nativities

Pushya - Sidhya

Tisya - Poosam - Pushyami - Paukshakya - Vutkrita - Barhaspatya - Indrapurohita - Avra

BPL commentary

For Pushyami births of a masculine valence, the influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural sober serious systematic Shani can considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the Shani-ruled paradigm of Vutkrita, elder persons, old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems, and corporate or institutional officials may be especially influential.

Instructional guidance is provided from the civilizations of Asellus. Their purpose is the lawful, hierarchically ordered maintenance of the customary folk habits in the place of settlement.

Laws and Customs

Shani-ruled Pushyami gentlemen are often found at the director level of government, corporate, and institutional organizations. They combine the local sensibilities of security-seeking Chandra with the larger structural, legal frameworks of national and international regulation. Deeply patriotic and defensive by nature, Sidhya-born usually remain close to their roots while they obtain respected, socially recognized positions in institutions, bureaucracies, and agencies of government.

Sidhya-born are influential in the world and reputed for their culturally sensitive judgment. Found in all of the Chandra-karaka areas such as pathwaus of transportation, farming and fishing, home-building and real-estate, schools, houses of worship, and parenting, Tishya-born feel close to the land. Yet, they are socially responsible, and usually elect to serve as judges, directors, or other official roles [Shani] that provide an orderly process [Shani] for governance of their place of settlement.

Pushyami may specialize in cultural boundary-protection, making of reserved areas both social and natural, lawful preservation of ethnic practices, and legal recognition for cultural minorities. Tisya fellows are particularly dedicated to environmental protection, land ownership, and property rights.

Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Pushya - Sidhya.

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. [1939] . Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.

" An earnest, thoughtful character,

intelligent and quite religious in his outlook.

  • Quite often a regular attendant at church services

  • and a supporter of church and religious activities.

Withal, he is possessed of the qualities which make for success in the material world,

and has the ability to rise in position

  • and to command the respect of his associates.

He will fill a position of executive requirements

  • and be admired and respected by his immediate family."



Hoover age 23 Perth, Australia, in the mining fields

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar

[Shani Mahadasha] [age birth until age 17.8]

10-Aug-1874 Earth-birth in West Branch, Iowa, USA * Shani-Shani svabhukti

1880 [HCH age 6] grieved decease of father - Shani-Ketu bhukti

winter 1884 [HCH age 9] grieved the decease of mother - Shani-Surya bhukti * Surya activates 2nd-from-Chandra

[Budha Mahadasha] [age 17.8 until age 34.8]

1895 [HCH age 21] earned bachelor's diploma in geology, from the newly established Stanford University College * Budha-Shukra bhukti* Shukra activates 4-diploma

1897 [HCH age 23] travels to Australia for mining work, involving harsh conditions and high remuneration * Budha-Shukra bhukti* Shukra activates 11-income, revenues

10-Feb-1899 [HCH age 25] consecration of marriage-1-of-1 with Lou Henry Hoover * Budha-Surya bhukti * Surya activates Simha Svamsha - gochara R-K Dhanus-Mithuna * contact navamsha R-K

1901 elected partner in Berwicke Moering Co. * Budha-Mangala bhukti * Mangala activates Rahu-10-executive

04-Aug-1903 [HCH age 29] celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Budha-Rahu bhukti

Shani Ashtamsha Kumbha Feb-1905 until Apr-1907

1908 independent global mining consultant, specialist in financial and technical rescue of failing mines * Budha-Shani bhukti * Shani-7 consultancy

[Ketu Mahadasha] [age 34.8 until age 43.8]

1909 [HCH age 35] published the most popular of his 30 books, De Re Metallica * translated as Principles of Mining. It became the leading university metals-mining textbook for several generations afterward. Although published under HH's name, the work was translated by linguist Lou Henry Hoover with HH adding explanatory notes *Ketu-Ketu bhukti * Ketu enables Shukra-3 many books written by the wifely-companion

[Shukra Mahadasha] [age 43.8 until age 63.8]

Aug-1916 until Sep-1918 Janma Sade-Sati Karkata [1]

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 [HCH age 47] US Secretary of Commerce * Shukra-Chandra until Shukra-Guru * Chandra lagnesha

Tues-06-Nov-1928 [HCH age 54] wins election to POTUS-31 * Shukra-Guru bhukti * Guru activates 9-fortune in elections

29-Oct-1929 [HCH age 55] Black Tuesday stock market crash begins The Great Depression- Shukra-Shani bhukti * Shani activates 8-catastrophe * Shani-return

Tues-08-Nov-1932 [HCH age 57] dramatically loses bid for re-election in a landslide vote favoring Hoover's ideological opponent Franklin D. Roosevelt - Shukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 12-identity loss ++ gochara Shani return to 7 ++ gochara Rahu return to 10

Mar-1934 until Mar-1937 Shani Ashtamsha Kumbha

1934 [HCH age 59] publication of the popular book, The Challenge to Liberty * co-written with Lou Henry Hoover - Shukra-Budha bhukti * Budha publications

[Surya Mahadasha] [age 63.8 until age 69.8]

1942 [HCH age 69] published America's First Crusade written by Lou Henry Hoover - Surya-Shukra bhukti* Shukra -3 writing rules 4-patriotism

[Chandra Mahadasha] [age 69.8 until age 79.8]

07-Jan-1944 [HCH age 70] grieved the decease of lifepartner, Lou Henry Hoover following 45 years of marriage * Chandra-Rahu bhukti ++ dvadasa Sade-Sati

Sep-1945 until Jul-1948 Janma Sade-Sati Karkata [1]

[Mangala Mahadasha] [age 79.8 until age 86.8]

[Rahu Mahadasha] [age 86.8 until decease age 90

Jan-1964 until Dec-1966 Shani Ashtamsha Kumbha

20-Oct-1964 [HCH age 90] dis-embodiment, hemorrhage from complications of colon-cancer * Rahu-Shani bhukti * maraka Shani activates-7

Intensive cluster of graha in tanusthāna-1 focuses the personality into activities of bhava 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 10 + 12. He was a busy man, always moving [Kuja] always decision-making [Surya] always considering the needs of the common folk [Chandra] and always talking [Budha].

What happened to The Great Engineer?

Hoover is generally ranked among the worst-performing presidents by historians and economists. Any of the general public old enough to remember or have heard stories of the Great Depression tend to disparage his name. The primary complaint = he did not act when there was still time to act.

[nīcha] Shukra mahadasha + Shani bhukti apparently paralyzed him. Shani does not act. Shani resists action.

The second complaint = despite his widely documented 3xecutive abilities, a resentful blaming Hoover declined to accept any governance roles under POTUS-32 or POTUS-33. Thus, a highly able leader stubbornly refused to help a nation in need during nearly 20 years of self-exile. at the peak of his capabilities.

The third complaint = Hoover became a rogue broadcaster promoting the Nazi regime of Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler as an effective tool against communism while relentlessly attacking POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt .

Hoover might have suffered from Borderline personality disorder associated with the tragic early deaths of his parents.


Herbert and Lou Hoover, with two sons and a daughter-in-law, 1930's California

Distinctive features of the Nativity


pitri-karaka [father] jyoti-karaka [light]

[preserving-collecting dhanesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[focused attention to familiar heritage values]

[historical knowledge radiates self-confidence]

[genetically expressive face-hair-voice]

[political intelligence for comforting speech]

[brightly entertaining soothing personality]

[identified with memory and language]

[father may be animal-breeder, financier, or conservationist]


[profitable-distributive Aśleṣa-3] [navamsha Surya-Kumbha] intuitively confident massive distribution systems

[Atmakaraka politics, central positions, confidence, intelligence, father, special entitlements, certainty]




  • [Surya-Karkata] Bhanu - ray of light * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the nourishing caretaking rashi of Chandra
  • [Surya in bhava-1] center of identity * bright embodiment * intelligence for competition * focus on appearance * genius for innovative self-expression * athletic entitlements * eye on personality * sparkling center of body-based vitality * father may be an icon-competitor-inventor
  • [Surya-yuti-Chandra] confidently sensitive * bright comforter * entitled to express emotion * radiantly rhythmic * creatively intelligent mother * * sensitive to the spiritual rays of the Sun * parents are culturally aligned * patriotic father
  • [Surya-yuti-Kuja] confidently progressive * bright warrior * moves in alignment with the spiritual rays of the Sun * creatively intelligent brother-figures * self-reflexive political pursuits * champion of brilliant ideals * competitive father-figure * entitled to conquer * focused on winning * radiantly pioneering
  • [Surya-yuti-Budha] * confidently conversational * bright messenger * entitled to discuss * creatively intelligent sibling-cohort * discursive father-figure * gestures conduct the spiritual rays of the Sun * radiantly descriptive * articulate in drama * skillful game-player * self-confident announcements * talks about ideals * narrative of power-politics * recites love poems * describes divine romance


Dad = farmer Surya-Karkata + blacksmith

Surya-1 mutual aspect with Shani-7

Surya radiates in Karkata-1caretaking yet constrained by an almost equally strong Shani-Makara-7 = legal limits, governance, bureaucracy. This same Shani opposes his Chandra in Pushya - Sidhya = deeply loyal and governing mate.

Surya occupies Karkata-1 ++ [Budha-yuti-Surya] ++ [Surya-yuti-Kuja] ++ [Surya-yuti-Chandra]. Intense focus [Surya] upon finance and banking [2]

Sparkling Surya accepts the elegantly structuring, disciplining, conventionalizing 7th drishti from Surya's arch-enemy soberly serious Shani-7


matrikaraka [mother] * garha-karaka [village]


[energizing-identifying lagnesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[comforted by physical maternal soothing]

[settled into familiar muscular rhythms]

[feels the pulse of new life]

[needs to shelter protectively]

[emotionally attuned to caretaking nourishing folkways]

[mother may be athlete-pioneer-midwife]


[political-dramatizing Pushya-1] [navamsha-Chandra-Simha] intuitively sensitive to entertaining political display




  • [Chandra-Karkata] comforted by maternal soothing * settled into tidal rhythms * needs to protect
  • [Chandra in Pushya - Sidhya] soothed by lawful customs * protectors of the ethno-social structure * needs dignified orderly habits
  • [Chandra in classroom-1] comfort in glowing incandescent embodiment * familiar with kinetic energy * feels the beating pulse of muscular movement * accustomed to body-based emotional response * needs rhythmic energy flow * attuned to oceans * feels like a pioneer * soothed by championship * sensitive to new birth * seeks calming routine activities * undulating personality * mother may be a life-protector, a sea-farer, a midwife, sentimental
  • [Somana-yuti-Surya] Emotionally entitled * sensitive to fatherly folk * needs sparkling centrality * sentimentally romantic * creative mother * comforted by confidence * undulating intelligence * soothed by attention * calmed by applause * feels like royalty
  • [Somana-yuti-Kuja] Emotionally pro-active * sensitive to brotherly figures * needs to win * comforted by direct forward movement * invigorates the undulating routine * soothed by pioneering innovation * competitive mother * calmed by routine exercise * feels like a champion
  • [Somana-yuti-Budha] Emotionally communicative * sensitive to sibling figures * sheltered by workmates * calmed by a chatty cohort * talkative mother * needs to evangelize * makes empathetic gestures * soothed by conversation * feels like a messenger


MARRIAGE relationships support expectations


Chandra-1 mutual aspect to Shani-7

Hoover would have been a challenging marriage partner due to the complex of graha near Chandra, represented inter alia the early emotional wounding of his parent's premature deaths. His disciplined, steady, sober, and mature wife is represented by Shani-Makara-7

Chandra-Karkata = patriotic and parental. Yet, the personal attachment to security and comfort may be constrained by regulating, contract-bound Makara Shani's overarching concern for the social law and social order.

Shani-Makara in 7th-from-Chandra represents Hoover's primary advisers, including his remarkable wife Lou Henry, who were generally conservative in their counsel.

Also bhava-5 represents the redoubtable Lou Henry Hoover = 3rd-from-3rd publications. Hoover himself has no graha in bhava-3 Yet, he is purportedly the author of more than 30 books including detailed translations from other languages. With his Ketu-2 is rather unlikely that he would have dedicated the time needed to produce painstaking translations. It is more likely that the majority author of most of his literary works is actually Mrs. Hoover.


bhratru-karaka [brother] virya-karaka [virile]



[Kuja Dosha for alliance-1]

 [Yogakaraka dutiful karmesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[Yogakaraka political vidya-pati for Karkata indriya lagna]

[identified with political energy]

 [personally promotes dynamic  competition for high position]

 [actively pushes into governance roles]

[emotional engineering of people and places]

[habitually pursues individual creativity ]

[embodiment of vigorous patriotic protectionism]

[provocative catalysis from fellow politicians-poets and regulatory authorities]

[if in Aslesha, commanding extortionist personality]


[regenerating-discovering Pushya-4] [navamsha Mangala-Vrischika]

[Mangala Kopā Avaṣṭabdhān] [Kuja-yuti-Surya]



  • [Mangala-Karkata] active pursuit of security * proactive nourishment * drive toward rooting + settling * vigorous defensive movement * police protector * fence-builder * push toward land ownership * promotes construction of settlements * innovative farming + fishing * energetically ethnic * champion of local cultures
  • [Mangala in bhava-1] forward fighter * muscular champion * competitive winner * drive toward performance vitality * embodied action * primal sexuality * pursuit of progress * direct movement * physical engineering * thrusting vigor * dominating personality * pushy * dynamic innovator * energized conquests * athletic body
  • [Kuja-yuti-Surya] sparkling kinetic creativity * glorious innovator * high-energy confidence * dynamic genius * dominating force joins willful charm * fiercely competitive politics * brilliant winner * physically active father-figure * self-referential championship * vigorously moving theatrical display
  • [Kuja-yuti-Chandra] invigorated feelings * energized intuition * dynamic nurturance * competitive caretaking * often the dominant parent * needs to win * forward thrusting emotions * seeks security via conquest
  • [Kuja-yuti-Budha] proactive communications * energized signaling * dynamic reporting * clipped speech patterns * abrupt announcements * champion of vigorous messaging * pushes toward direct commands * forward thrusting gestures * incisive speech * forceful writing


[Yogakaraka] [nīcha-Mangala-Karkata-1] activates

  • 5-intelligence, creativity, celebrity
  • 10 social visibility, respect, reputation, leadership

ashtagata-dosha Mangala suffers weakness caused by brilliant intelligent solipsistic Surya * s olar burn within the range of 0-17 degrees from Surya makes Mangala somewhat crispy

Pushya-Mangala-mutual aspect to change-resistant Śrāvaṇa-Shani. Mangala is prevented from moving forward as quickly as desired. Lawful restraint.

Hoover's Kuja is not only nīcha, but also Kuja is paired with hostile Budha.

Kuja is also suffering the ashtagata-dosha so that Kuja's outgoing energy rays are crippled by the self-righteous forces of politics and drama [burned by Surya] .

Before 1929, HH enjoyed 20 smooth years of Shukra Mahadasha.

Involved in high-profile logistical-charity programs like food distribution in war-torn Europe, HH was very busy and very visible. Due to his investments in international mining operations, HH was also very wealthy.

HH was styled as The Great Engineer.

  • His reputation, crafted by political spinners -- but also based in a solid record of measurable achievements -- was framed as a career of bold innovation and exploration [Mangala] mixed with business skill [Budha] patriotism [Chandra] and alpha-male leadership [Surya].

Rahu-8 in 10th-from the Karkata-11 complex provides the ambition albeit Rahu is controlled by Mangala and Mangala is nīcha.

Mahadasha of Aśleṣa-Surya expresses nīcha Kuja activates 3-8 and Rahu-8. The upheaval was violent and bitter.

At his age 56, during Surya-Mangala [nīcha] bhukti, gochara Rahu transited into Mesha-8 , signaling the Rahu-Return craving for emergencies and upheaval. The Great Depression had started with apparently no warning and the nation was suddenly gripped by uncontrollable terror of starvation and social collapse.

Surya activates 12-invisibility. Kuja activates 8 and 8th-from-8. Shani activates 6. The Surya-Surya, Surya-Mangala, and Surya-Rahu bhukti were the worst. While many called for aggressive economic interventions, HH took sanctuary [12] . Surya Mahadasha 1930-1936 ; was lethargic [12, sleep] . As gochara Shani moved into Makara-5 in Apr-1931 [Shani-5 stiff resistance to political charm] the nation went from boom to bust .

Delayed Action while Rahu-8 churns

The markets swung up and down, recovering somewhat in early 1930 only to crash again, with worldwide financial depression evident by the lowest part of the collapse in June 1932 during Surya-Rahu.

Folks were overcome with despair. During Surya-Kuja and Surya-Rahu, Hooverville slums full of destitute unemployed arose near every town and city.

In the eyes of many, HH bore personal responsibility for the spiraling economic [11] crisis of the Great Depression and the colossal scale of misery that it brought. He was blamed and accused - [nīcha] Mangala, [nīcha] Shukra.

Even after he lost re-election, HH retaliated with a seven-year volley of vitriolic attacks upon the policies and character of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal safety-net program.

  • Rather than admit the scope of the problem and suggest solutions, HH criticized, and complained.
  • HH defended his failed actions while aggressively defaming the New Deal domestic antipoverty aid programs as socialist and communist in motive.
  • Formerly a shining star, The Great Engineer was ostracized from government for seven years.

Chandra-Surya-Budha also afflicted by the contrariwise [nīcha] Kuja ruling Mix-Master Rahu-8 and broadcast 8th-from-8th

Surya mahadasha transitioned into Chandra Mahadasha in 1936 when Hoover was still a young 62. A man of striking organizational ability who could have been an elite leader during the economic recovery deployment and subsequent buildup to WW-2, Hoover was instead a man-without-portfolio in the USA government during 1932-1939. He was granted no authority. When invited to advise working committees, he refused.

Instead, under influence of the [nīcha] combust-randhresha Kuja, and Surya ruling 12 foreign lands, Hoover traveled to Germany independently

  • HH socialized with Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 ny-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler and his colleagues
  • He broadcast forceful radio speeches claiming that the Nazi regime and the Stalinist regime should fight it out between themselves.
  • USA intervention in Europe's problem [including the holocaust atrocities] was in Hoover's view unjustified.
  • Any USA alliance with Russ-Soviet 1878-1953 Man-of-Steel Josef Stalin would open the floodgates, spilling the demonic horrors of anti-democratic communism throughout the world.

Considered a pariah by all but a few ideological devotees, HH had minimal subscribers during his Chandra Mahadasha [age 62-72] .

  • However, his anti-Stalinism crusade was better supported during his Mangala Mahadasha age 73-80.

By the onset of Rahu Mahadasha in 1953, anti-communist rhetoric had become a standard of American politics. Toward the end of his life, HH's public image as a defender of the American Way of Life was somewhat rehabilitated

Famous for his lifelong commitment to children.

putra-pati = [Yogakaraka] Kuja-1 + parental Chandra-Karkata


jamayah-karaka [sibling] sandeza-karaka [message] zisya-karaka [student]

[dikbala] [busy-messaging bhratru-pati for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[retreating-contemplative vyaya-pati for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[narrative of ethno-cultural identity]


[Budha-yuti-Surya] = [Kopā Avaṣṭabdhā]



[logistical-argumentative Pushya-2] = [navamsha Budha-Kanya]

  • [Budha-Karkata] comfortable communications * hand-arm-shoulders make protective gestures * rhythmic articulation of root culture * discusses ancestral morality * prescriptive routines * argues for foundational stability * describes protective fencing * parochial talk * converses about caretaking * environmental wardens * issues customary pronouncements * delivers land-use information * patriotic declarations * habitually chats about the local settlement
  • [Budha in bhava-1] * narrative of body * bifurcated self-image * discusses physical appearance * describer of embodiment * explainer of tangible self * delivers instructions for self-characterization * articulation of communicative movement * animated gestures * talks about personality * details the two-sided identity.
  • [Budha-yuti-Surya] amusing explanations * entertaining chatter * central roles in communication brightly clear descriptions * dramatic enunciation * confidently delivers instruction * articulation of radiant certainty * political messenger * talkative father-figures
  • [Budha-yuti-Chandra] explainer of feelings * mentalized caretaking * communicative parenting * familiar rhythmic phrasing * ancestral instruction * writes sensitive speeches + songs * soothed by scheduling * needs to plan * describes the comfortable routines * responsive siblings * intuitively talkative mother
  • [Budha-yuti-Mangala] competitive communications * scripted actions * impatient conversations * potential for sexualized messaging * penetrating explanations * direct instruction * dominating dialog * signals forward action * pioneering logical movement * energetically outspoken opinions * talkative brother-figures [nīcha]


Budha-mutual aspect to Shani

Kanya-lagna = the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra and 3rd-from Budha. Hoover was a master manager, skilled in book-writing, business planning, team-work, meetings, and frequent travels. Indicates journalism, historical and technical writings. Hoover published more than 30 books.

Hoover was a genius of management and supply-chain logistics. He could and did efficiently move billions of tons of food, tens of thousands of low-wage workers, and countless shipments of mining materials around the world.

Service Orientation of Kanya lagna expressed via Budha-11-systems

Hoover's relief efforts during the era of World War I attracted national attention. The helpless, bereaved, abandoned people [Kanya] could count on his aid, though others had not always aided him.


dhava-karaka [husband] bahuta-karaka [variety]

[inimical-medicating rogesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[philosophical-doctrinal dharmesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]


[fantasizing-conceptual Uttaraphalgunī-4] [navamsha Guru-Meena] intuitively expansive optimistic humanistic philosophical imagination


  • [Guru-Kanya] much ministry of service * many servants * numerous employees * indoctrination of laborers * much logical argumentation * conflicted guidance * permission to help * generously assists many victims * optimistic about medication * believes in aid * doctrine of benevolent humility
  • [Guru in bhava-3] many messages * extensive commerce * many photographs * numerous publications * several collaborators * multiple transactions * many tours * frequent business trips * many sales * numerous discussions * much detailed interaction * extensive planning operations * variety of ensemble performances * evangelistic growth * so many meetings * patron of communications technologies * in a wifely nativity, husbandly-companion may be a businessman-writer
  • [Guru-yuti-Shukra] sodarya-karaka * multiple feminine-figures * permission to make deals * abundant pleasures * blossoming treasures * expansion of art * inspirational music * optimistic diplomatic philosophy * large-scale alignments * broad scope of partnerships * diverse financial arrangements


[Guru-Kanya] [Guru in bhava-3] [Guru-yuti-Shukra] [nīcha]

Guru rules adversarial 6th-from-Chandra

The Great Engineer was a large-systems thinker, planner, operationalizer

passionate believer in laissez-faire economic theory

Brihaspati-yuti-Shukra in the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra * Hoover co-authored more than 30 books with his wife Lou Henry Hoover. Modern historians suspect that Lou did most of the writing, but Herbert Hoover was almost as well-known for his publications as he was for holding leadership roles.


svadu-karaka [sweet] kalatra-karaka [wifely companion]


[homebound-anchoring bandesha for Karkata indriya-lagna]

friendly-profitable labha-pati Karkata indriya-lagna]


[systematic Aryaman-3] [navamsha Shukra-Kumbha]


  • [Shukra-Kanya] appreciation of service ministries * likes logical argument * attracted to subordinates * delighted by animals * accepts unbalanced agreements * prefers exploitable partners * pleased by pain relief * enjoys humility * graciously accommodates unfair contracts * sweet alliance with victims * aesthetic of remedies for injustice
  • [Shukra-3] seeks pleasure via communications * talks about relationships * s weetens the administrative tasks * smooth style of messaging * enjoys commercial harmony * pleasant retinue * satisfied by literacy * balanced numeracy skills * prefers collaborative teamwork * aesthetically phrased announcements * appreciation of conversation * nice designs to adorn the ears * attractive shoulders * lovely arms * graceful hands * chatty sisters- aunts-neighbors * attuned to the cohort * likes musical groups * fair-and-balanced reporting * in a husbandly nativity, wifely-companion may be a manager-communicator-writer
  • [Shukra-yuti-Guru] sweetened expansions * gracious diversity * appreciation for philosophical doctrine * adjustable catechism * numerous negotiations * humanistic agreements * generous beauty * balanced patronage * arrangements according to priestly paradigm of belief * prefers relationships with generous partners



  • Learning Pathway experiences may involve feminine-figures who are deceived, aggrieved, disadvantaged, marginalized, or suffering from low self-worth [Kanya 12th-from-balancing Tula].
  • Partnerships personal and professional may be challenged in matters of equity, fairness, mutuality, balance
  • Attracted to servants, employees, service-workers, helpers, and aides.
  • Aesthetic of undervaluation.
  • Often displeased with peers.

Wifely Companion

Co-authored with his capable wife Lou Hoover , he wrote a standard academic-professional text on mining = Shukra-yuti-Guru = Kanya-lagna = 3rd-from-Budha

Shukra-1 rules the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked [11th-from-Chandra]

Herbert Hoover enjoyed the help of his elder brother Theodore throughout life especially in developing the zinc recovery process. close emotional relationship and fleshly resemblance [Shukra-1] between Herbert Hoover and his elder brother.

Shukra activates 10-Reputation, Recognition

During Shukra mahadasha age 36-56, due partly to the extreme reticence of a grieving and dysfunctional POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge , HH becomes the most visible man in Government

He was an iconic, socially admired figure representing the very best of his citizen class: scientifically educated, financially successful, and dedicated to better government through application of tested, innovative processes.

Super-Manager * all tasks accepted * meetings * teams

Guru-yuti-Shukra located in the managing, organizing, documenting, process-oriented 3rd-from-Chandra

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 * Shukra -Guru bhukti until Shukra-Budha bhukti * age 46-52 mid-career

  • USA Secretary of Commerce. Newspaper wags referred to Hoover as Secy of Commerce and Assistant Secy of Everything Else.
Nov-1928 elected POTUS-31* Shukra -Budha bhukti

Public Powerhouse Budha

Professor Budha lagnesha karmesha activates 10th navamsha containing Rahu-yuti-Shani and Rahu occupies the emotionally dignified , social-ordering, leadership-seeking; 10th-from-Chandraa.

Hoover had built up a tremendous reputation for successful management of large operations, and in the Nov-1928 election he enjoyed a massive landslide win. Perceived as the very icon of farm values, hands-on management, and moral integrity, Hoover started office in March, 1929.

In a time of flaunting luxury, ostentatious displays of wealth, and notorious lifestyle excess of the 'rentier' class, Hoover was elected on a platform of reducing government waste. The political evangelists proclaimed his proven ability to handle large-scale life sustenance.

Having brought food, clothing, and shelter [Chandra] to starving Europeans devastated by World-War-1, and having operated several highly profitable international businesses, Hoover seemed [Chandra, intuitions] able to fix America's ongoing poverty problems.

Shukra has plusses and minuses. In lagna, nīcha Shukra benefits the personal wealth and grants a genetically pale complexion. Kendra-adhi-pati Guru brings large-scale [Guru] problems [Kanya] with wealth-treasuries in the forms of banking [2] and ideology [9] .

Black Tuesday terrible stock market crash of Oct - Shukra-Ketu chidra-dasha

Less than eight months after he took office in March-1929, Black Tuesday struck and the Great Depression started. Faced with the huge scope [Guru] of the poverty and debt Guru-Kanya in the context of widespread [Guru] financial disaster Shukra-Kanya, Hoover in the most exhausted of all Ketu-bhukti -- the chidra-dasha of Shukra mahadasha - DID NOTHING.

[ Shani]

duro-karaka [endurance] * jara-karaka [Jahre, years]

[dikbala] [svakshetra]

[Śaśaka Yoga]

[bargaining-partnering yuvati-pati for Karkata indriya-lagna

[mysterious-revealing randhresha Karkata indriya-lagna]

[obliged to maintain lawful alliances]

[must uphold contractual agreements]

[stubbornly secretive, regenerating, mature, unyielding, pragmatic, rigidly class-conscious, lawfully contractual life partner]


[publishing-explaining Śrāvaṇa-3] [navamsha Shani-Mithuna]

  • [Shani-Makara-Draco] heavy old institutions * obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked class-systems * strict regimes * pressure to complete socially required duties * structural compression upon knees-calves-skeleton * strictly imposed protocols * must normalize old rules * unyielding pressure of public judgment * class-conscious elders * punitive regulators * must endure proletarian manners * must continue disciplined work * scarce building resources * maintainer of old hierarchies
  • [Shani in Bhava-7] [beneficial placement] enduring partnerships * heavy vows * must balance-and-rebalance * lawful relationships * tense bargaining * grim determination to maintain the contract * chronic marital responsibilities * compression of the visible genitalia * pressured bargaining * negotiation fatigue * unyielding alliances * slow-moving advisors * resists new arrangements * elders maintain respected old promises


Disciplined complex personality

mutual aspect between Shani-7-Makara and Surya-Chandra-Mangala-Budha-1

Shani-7 resists change in agreements * Marriage loyalty

Stubborn and lacked negotiation skills. Refused to admit that the financial manipulators had acted illegally. Shani also rules-Kumbha 8 making Hoover beholden to undisclosed parties in the economic system.

Shani in 7th-from-Chandra indicates loyalty between the spousal parties.

[Shani Mahadasha] [age birth until 17.8]

Hated large inheritances. Shani-7 activates 8

Hoover was successful as a businessman-engineer but he encountered rigid obstacles as a politician [5]

Writing and Publication

Shani strong ruler of 3rd-from-3rd. Herbert Hoover wrote and published dozens of books in policy policy, governance, economics and mining. A few are still used in college courses today.

Mrs. Lou Henry Hoover was a capable writer and translator [her chandra-3] . She likely did most of the work on Hoover's earlier books. Shani in 7th-from-Chandra wife.

[ Rahu]

rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka [slippery]

[occupies karmasthāna for Karkata indriya-lagna] [svabhava]

[regulatory authority based in mixed-culture dynamic innovation]

[fascinating icon of competitive championship]

[exciting commander of weaponry fire-and-metals]

[astonishing social rise of warriors, drillers, miners, and those born into dominator bloodlines]


[publishing-explaining Aśvini-3] [navamsha Rahu-Mithuna] intuitively boundary-breaking communicative commerce

  • [Rahu-Mesha-Arya] shimmering illusion of championship * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of first-arrival pioneer * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary birth * extravagant muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent [but perhaps not authentic] attributes of heroic action * seeks privilege via innovator-roles
  • [Rahu in bhava-8] passion for prestige mysteries * in svabhava of Competitive Kuja, the Shadowy Specter seeks glamorous veiling * surreptitious identity recycling * wizardry of aperture open-close * fascinating self-reinvention * amazing surgical rejuvenation * outsider who cleverly insinuates into revelatory roles * desires an important role in trauma-healing * fabulous transformative initiation * reveals occult truths * shocking discovery of confidential information * exciting mixed-culture secret-keeper * finds opportunity in catastrophe * masquerade of esoteric empowerment * poses as a secretary [secret-keeper] of a powerful entity * risk-rewarding in-laws * irregular inheritance * boundary-breaching disclosure of concealed evidence * intrigue of camouflaged assets * s timulated by dangerous emergencies * disguised as a cuidado or shaman * social mobility via mirage of hidden empowerments


Rahu-Mesha mining ruled by yogakaraka-[nīcha] Kuja-1

Rahu in 10th-from-Chandra indicates potential for governance and executive authority during Rahu bhukti

Rahu occupies 11th navamsha yuti Shani suggesting a deep focus on revenues, earnings

The stock market crash of 1929 and the sudden impoverishment of millions of Americans happened under Hoover's watch. Curiously, his own financial standing was not afflicted by the Great Depression.

Hoover's later dislike of large inheritances also suggests the experience of being left on his own.

Rahu-8 exotic

Hoover made his fortune outside the US where he was a unique and fascinating figure. Likely he was more familiar with the " ex-pat" artificially dramatized " trickster" version of the American ex-pat engineer and explorer [Kuja]. His own people [genetics- 2] rather bewildered him.

Rahu-8 non-disclosure

Hoover demonstrated dramatic and much-praised success for his "can-do" [Rahu-Mesha doing, doer] innovative and dynamic approach to feeding the war victims. His method was not transparent [Rahu-8 secrets] and he would not discuss what would be done but he was willing to explain what had been done [Shani].

Rahu-Shani in 10th navamsha finds opportunity in leadership roles

Hoover's specialty in leadership was management and communications [Mithunaya 10th navamsha] . He was an instructor, describer, explainer. He easily gained institutional authority and public responsibility.


kavandha-karaka [headless] chidra-karaka [gaping] vasana-karaka [vacuum]

[for Karkata indriya-lagna]

[diplomaticly dispersed homeland roots]

[smoothly scattered secure foundations]

[pleasantly gracious absentee mother-caretaker]

[neutral witness to local arrangements]

[Rahu-Mesha-10 = elite innovator executive career]


[ideological-optimistic Arcturus-1] [navamsha Ketu-Dhanus]

  • [Ketu-Tula] justly dissociates from negotiation * wanders away from compromise * eccentric alliances * abandons agreements * apathetic trades * surrenders trust * ignores restriction on match-making * releases a pale pastel cloud of fair deals into the misty abyss
  • [Ketu in classroom-4] ambivalent toward the cultural foundations * absentee mother-figure * disregards local customs * dissolved property boundaries * wanders from the ancestral home * often away * ignores conventional schooling * irrelevance of habitual folkways * surrenders nationality * dismisses the parents * abandons the established routines * may prefer to live free from fixed roots


[nīcha] Kuja drishti into Ketu-2

[Ketu in Bhava-2]tends to dissolve the family lineage r and disperse the historic, genetic values in favor of the radical new beginnings of Rahu-Mesha-8.

HH's parents died during his childhood. HH wandered through the homes of relatives, but never stayed in one family for long. As an adult, HH was a peripatetic figure.

Historians generally judge HH to have failed miserably in his responsibility to protect the US economy.

Despite the previous show of charity and compassion for European war victims, HH essentially ignored the suffering of the American masses, asserted that Americans needed to call upon their own resources without relying on the government, and blamed the victim Shukra-Kanya insinuating that Americans were weak and complaining.


POTUS-31-pair [1928 until 1932]

National Director of Girl Scouts

Lou Henry Hoover


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Lou Henry Hoover

Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativities


Purnavasi - Vutvrta - Jamitra

BPL commentary

For Saptarishi births of a feminine valence, the condition of prosperous, preaching, inclusive, broad-scope, philosophical, humanistic Guru may considerably affect the outcome. Due to the definitive influence of dhava-karaka Guru, ladies born in Puna, Viśākha, or Purvabhadra may find that their worldview is greatly shaped by the character of the husband.

For those born into the Brihaspati-ruled paradigm of Jamitra, teachers, preachers, professors, patrons, agents of generosity and guidance, guru-figures, ideologues, indoctrinators, theorists, know-it-alls, proselytes, philosophers, pontificators, patriarchs, pundits, pater-nosters, proponents of principled understanding, wise-ones, wizards, druids, and paradigms of belief may be especially influential..

Guidance is provided by emissaries from the realm of the Twin Gardeners called Castor-and-Pollux. Their purpose is restoration, renewal, and rehabilitation of lost knowledge..

High forehead. Punarvasu have a global perspective. The majority of Aditya-born nativities are higher dimensional Seva-wanderers who assume interpretive guidance roles.

Instructing, Explaining, Describing

[Mithuna - Dvamdva] pada 1-2-3 represent Guru's rulership of 7-agreements ++ 10-leadership, while also expressing the tension between broad-view Brihaspati versus detail-oriented Bantering Budha. Pada 1-2-3 are blessed with an expansive human wisdom for evocative writing or speaking. Often excellent writers who can facilitate spiritual growth via specific explanation and description. Pada 1-2-3 are often found in the literary arts, in teaching roles, in academic advising, as travel guides, and as poets who describe the natural world.

[Karkata-Kadaga] -pada-4 represents Guru's rulership of 6-imbalance ++ 9-philosophy. Pada-4 also embodies the tension between global, paternalistic Guru versus local, motherly Chandra. Often these remarkable women are found in the gardening and domestic realms. Natural herbal physicians, they understand and can elicit the wisdom of the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms. Pada-4 may also emerge into the religious professions where they may grow a garden of psycho-intuitive understanding.

Although the priestly husband seeks wisdom, for Karkata-Punarvasu the husband may also be adversarial, polluted, impoverished, or ailing [due to Guru activates 6] .

Themes of restoration of lost knowledge , gardening, fertility of understanding, wish fulfillment, and conceptual teaching may contextualize Aditya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Punarvasu - Aditya


10-Feb-1899 Lou Henry and Herbert Hoover wedding at the home of Lou's parents, in Monterey California. She was 25 and he was 24.

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde [1939] Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 93 . p 93

" ... will be successful in everything she undertakes.

If she elects to have a career of her own,

  • she will become very well known and highly respected.

If she marries,

  • she will have a husband and children who adore her

  • and her domestic life will be most happy .

Her house will be orderly and well kept,

  • as she is very particular and discriminating,

  • and insists on beautiful and harmonious surroundings for herself and family.

Her health is good

  • except that she will suffer from gastric complaints

  • and must be careful in her diet."


Lou Henry Hoover, photographed by Edward Steichen for the 11-May-1929 cover of VOGUE magazine. Her age 55, Shani Return, Rahu-Shukra bhukti.

Lou Henry's husband's POTUS-31 assignment had just started in March-1929, and Lou's radiant Shukra-Meena-10 yuti Surya-10 had brought her to the peak of public exposure..


Lou Henry Hoover * Whitehouse Photo 10-Sep-1929

  • LHH age 55
  • 1 month before Black Tuesday
  • on this day, USA Civil Rights 1929-1968 Rev. Martin Luther King was a 5-month-old baby

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar

[Ketu Mahadasha] [age birth until age 9-months

29-Mar-1874 Earth-birth in Waterloo, Iowa, USA * Ketu-Budha bhukti * Budha lagnesha

[Shukra Mahadasha] [age 0.9 until age 20.9]

1885 [LHH age 11] the family moves west to Whittier, California, where dad was a partner in a new Bank.

1892 [LHH age 16] the family moved again to Monterey, California, where dad started yet another Bank.

[Surya Mahadasha] [age 20.9 until age 26.9]

1899 [LHH age 25] earned bachelors degree in Geology from Stanford University College * Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha diploma

10-Feb-1899 [LHH age 25] consecration of marriage 1-of-1 with Herbert Hoover- Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha activates Mithunaya Svamsha * samchara R-K Dhanus-Mithuna contact Mithunaya Svamsha

[Chandra Mahadasha] [age 26.9 until age 36.9]

04-Aug-1903 [LHH age 29] celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Chandra-Rahu bhukti

Apr-1907 until Jul-1909 Shani Ashtamsha via Meena

1909 [LHH age 35] published an English translation of the 1565 essay De Re Metallica * translated as Principles of Mining. It became the leading university metals-mining textbook for several generations afterward. Although published under her husband's name, the work was translated by linguist Lou Henry Hoover with HH adding explanatory notes * Chandra-Shukra bhukti * Shukra rules 3rd-from-3rd publication

[Mangala Mahadasha] [age 36.9 until age 43.9]

1917 [LHH age 43] HH becomes chair of the Commission for Relief serving victims of WW-1. The Hoover family moves to Washington, D.C., and Lou is an unpaid women's organizer for the Commission.

Sep-1918 until Nov-1920 Janma Sade-Sati Simha

[Rahu Mahadasha] [age 43.9 until age 61.9]

24-Jun-1927 [LHH age 53] grieved the decease of mother - Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha activates [2nd-from-Chandra]

21-Jul-1928 [LHH age 54] grieved decease of father - Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha activates 7th-from-Surya

06-Nov-1928 [LHH age 54] Herbert Hoover elected POTUS-31 . Although a national figure, LHH grants no interviews and delivers no public speeches. However, she pioneered the habit of First Ladies making radio broadcasts * Rahu-Shukra bhukti* Shukra activates -5 elections

29-Oct-1929 [LHH age 55] devastating financial collapse of USA Stock Market, followed by shutdown of the banking system * Rahu-Shukra bhukti * [nīcha] Shukra activates 5-gambling + 12-disintegration

08-Nov-1932 [LHH age 58] blamed for not responding to the national catastrophe, Herbert Hoover loses re-election to Franklin D. Roosevelt - Rahu-Surya bhukti * Surya activates 8th-from-8th change of identity based on new instructions

[Guru Mahadasha] [age 61.9 until decease age 69

Shani Ashtamsha via Meena Feb-1937 until Apr-1939

07-Jan-1944 [LHH age 69] dis-embodiment via heart-failure * Guru-Ketu bhukti

Salient Features of the Nativity


pitri-karaka [father] jyoti-karaka [light]

[sahaja-pati or Mithuna indriya-lagna]


[reputation for visionary writings]

[brightly radiating high status imagination]

[intelligence for intuitive leadership]

[celebrated entitlement for philosophical authority]

[political focus on contemplative executive roles]

[entitled certainty via prayerful social duty]



[inspirational-preaching Revatī-1] [navamsha Surya-Dhanus] intuitively believing principled philosophical doctrinal optimistic humanistic confidence

  • [Surya-Meena] Bhaskara - the illuminator * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the expansively visionary rashi of Brihaspati
  • [Surya in bhava-10] bright center of hierarchy * confidently governing * legislative intelligence * focus on social order * regulatory entitlements * political authority * brilliant career * eye on elite positions * radiant reputation * sparkling center of the leadership drama * father may be a governor-regulator-boss
  • [Surya-yuti-Shukra] confidently harmonious * brightly creative bargainer * uniquely intelligent feminine-figures * entitled to pleasures * aesthetic expressions align with the spiritual rays of the Sun * financial politics * graciously creative * dramatic promises * radiantly diplomatic * self-reflexively attractive * father may be artist-broker-arranger



matrikaraka [mother] * garha-karaka [village]

[linguistic-historical dhana-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[politically comfortable with poetic cohort]

[familiar with delightful entertainment messaging]

[needs to communicate about romantic feelings]

[soothed by bright displays of ensemble collaboration]

[profoundly fluctuating entitled mentality]

[mother may be fashionable businesswoman or creative writer]

[mom's intelligence reflects the father's will]


[protective-customary Magha-4] [Navamsha Karkata Chandra ] intuitively sensitive sheltering environmentalist caretaking

[Navamsha Karkata Chandra ] intuitively sensitive protective caretaking

  • [Chandra-Simha] comforted by creative display * settled into dramatic rhythms * needs attention
  • [Chandra in Magha - Regulus]protectors of three-fires ceremony * feels the glorious magnetism * soothed by unlimited light magic

  • [Chandra in classroom-3] comfortable with cohort-collaboration * familiar with interactive communication * calmed by repetitive announcements * feels the tidal pulse of daily chat * feels sheltered in the parlor * soothed by siblings * intuitive information delivery * settled into the habits of writing * needs continuous commerce * accustomed to routine messaging * emotionally attuned to the rhythms of conversation * undulating signals * ethno-cultural gestures * intuitive handcraft * mother may be a manager, administrator, shopkeeper, craftswoman, publisher


CAREER - 10th-from-Chandra

[Chandra in classroom-3] rules 2-family assets, heritage values, languages. LHH was a highly accomplished writer, and some of her many publications were language translations.

Marriage partnership relationships support expectations


  • Kumbha economics, massive systems, distribution networks, friendship
  • bhava-9 ideology, theories, paradigm of belief, internationalism


bhratru-karaka [brother] virya-karaka [virile]


[inimical-medicating rogesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[gainful-friendly labha-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]


[political-displaying Bharani-1] [mūlatrikoṇa] [navamsha Kuja-Mesha] intuitively physicalized innovative forward movement


  • [Mangala-Mesha] vigorous pursuit of dominance * straightforward dynamic actions * competitive winner * propulsive battering weaponry * push toward conquest * pioneering vitality * hot yang-energy * thrusting force * forward-driving movement * champion of innovation
  • [Mangala in bhava-11] drive toward connectivity * competitive earnings * pursuit of profits * dynamic marketplace actions * champion of community activism * invasive networking * vigorous sporting friends * energized scientific systems * economic conquests
  • [Kuja-yuti-Rahu] thrill of muscular action * competitive ambition * passion to win * fascinating physicality * compulsive drive toward heroic battle * dynamic desires * champion of culture-clash * forward thrust toward opportunity * forceful pursuit of privilege



jamayah-karaka [sibling] sandeza-karaka [message] zisya-karaka [student]

[energizing-identifying lagnesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[homebound-anchoring bandesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]


[collaborative-publishing Purvabhadra-3] [navamsha Budha-Mithuna] intuitively explanatory scripted publications

[Atmakaraka = writing, administration, translation, publication, event management, travel itineraries]

  • [Budha-Kumbha ] connecting communications * systematic pronouncements * articulation of social-scientific networks * descriptive inter-webbed definitions * diagrams the marketplace linkages *futuristic conversations * messages about communities * discusses economic transactions * explains social participation linkage * large-scale logic * skilled weaving * deft knitting * hands-arms-shoulders make connective gestures
  • [Budha in bhava-9] narrative of father-figure * witty guru * broad-scope communicator * repeats the catechism * ideological reasoning * reiterates the doctrine * skillful grandchildren * discusses patronage * detailed articulation of worldview * explains the paradigm of belief * talks about sacred texts * examines the dharma * interprets theoretical claims * delivers quick sermons * logical investigations into philosophical truths * chatty priests * religious dialogues


Bantering Budha resides in the equable, partnering 7th-from-Chandra


dhava-karaka [husband] bahuta-karaka [variety]

[bargaining-partnering jaya-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[dutiful-commanding karmesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[diverse places for philosophical service teaching]

[many servants in multiple homes-schools]


[governing-regulatory Uttaraphalgunī-2] [navamsha Guru-Makara-nicha] intuitively expansive philosophical humanistic optimistic class-conscious regulation

  • [Guru-Kanya] much ministry of service * many servants * numerous employees * indoctrination of laborers * much logical argumentation * conflicted guidance * permission to help * generously assists many victims * optimistic about medication * believes in aid * doctrine of benevolent humility
  • [Guru in bhava-4] many local roots * growth of homes * fertile gardens * many diploma-licenses * abundant owned-stewarded property * many vehicles * multiple protective caretakers * multiple mother-figures * much shipping-transport * tolerance for parochial perspectives * numerous deeds of title * a patron of environmental stewardship * in a wifely nativity, husbandly-companion may be a grower-builder-schoolteacher-miner-shipper-landowner


Lou Henry met her future husband Herbert Hoover when they were both college students studying geology at Stanford University.

Feminine nativity Guru in bhava-4 meets husband at school.


svadu-karaka [sweet] kalatra-karaka [wifely companion]


[Malavya Yoga]

[witty-creative vidya-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[contemplative-envisioning vyaya-pati for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[iconic roles in imaginative arts]

[displays musical genius]

[poetic vision balances the social order]

[public face of private romance]

[insightful playful contemplative leadership]

[women may have visionary seniority]


[networking-earning Revatī-3] [navamsha Shukra-Kumbha] intuitively harmonizing populist networking distributive associative systems


  • [Shukra-Meena] appreciation of music * likes sensual fantasy * often looks visually beautiful * envisions philosophically attuned harmony * prefers an imaginative partner * attracted to dreamy artists * intuitively balanced designs * lovely aligned feet * bargains for peaceful sanctuary * enjoys symbolic clairsentience * contemplative aesthetic
  • [Shukra-10] seeks pleasure via regulated order * enjoys regulatory authority * socially prominent contractual agreements * reputation for gracious balancing * institutional finance * respects feminine-figures * harmonious governance * aesthetic of beautiful structures * appreciation of order * in a husbandly nativity, wifely-companion may hold an elite social position
  • [Shukra-yuti-Surya] balanced roles in drama * appreciation for political display * pleasantly charming * self-focused diplomacy * radiant bright beauty * self-reflexive bargaining * sweet entitlements * negotiating father-figure * self-directed arrangements * focus on trade exchange * solipsistic romance * idealistic contracts * enjoys the game of deal-making * prefers self-confident partners


Girl Scouts national associative social network for girls and their women mentors to have physical exercise and skill-building adventures. Joined by feminine births from all ethnic backgrounds and social classes, from cities and suburbs and rural farms. Leadership building by camping, organizational management, service.

Enduring impact upon women's social-economic empowerment in USA for nearly a century.


duro-karaka [endurance] * jara-karaka [Jahre, years]

[mysterious-discovering randhresha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[believing-philosophical dharmesha for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[staunch resistance to change of legal status]

[hierarchical legitimacy of hidden assets]

[reliably rule-abiding resource-poor in-laws]

[must regulate the threat of disorder]

[imposes social normalcy during catastrophe]

[dry hardening of inner skeleton]

[lawfully obliged to keep secrets]

[must hide old bones]


[publishing-explaining Śrāvaṇa-3] [navamsha Shani-Mithuna] intuitively structured regulatory conventionalized communications messaging

  • [Shani-Makara-Draco] heavy old institutions * obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked class-systems * strict regimes * pressure to complete socially required duties * structural compression upon knees-calves-skeleton * strictly imposed protocols * must normalize old rules * unyielding pressure of public judgment * class-conscious elders * punitive regulators * must endure proletarian manners * must continue disciplined work * scarce building resources * maintainer of old hierarchies
  • [Shani in Bhava-8] steady time-structured transformations * impedes infinity * must impose order upon dangerous environments * resists the advance of inexorable change * must regenerate while maintaining the system * cautiously conventional initiations * tense renewals * postpones surgery * fear of eruptions * chronic trauma patterns * pressures on the hidden mechanisms of sexual-reproduction * blocks the revelation of mysteries * pushback against emerging new cycles * disaster fatigue * martial law * dry rigidity limits rejuvenation * frugal in-laws * elders preserve undisclosed assets



rajyalobha-karaka [ambition] picchala-karaka [slippery]


[for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[Rahu casts passionate drishti into 3-5-7]

[vigorous passion for revenues]

[over-reaching pioneering profits]

[ambitiously competitive high-achieving friends]

[desire to dominate economic communities]

[exhilarating innovative social networks]

[extraordinary energetic fundraising]

[hunger for inventive earnings]

[risk-rewarding forward-pushing marketplace connectivity]

[seeks importance in championship assemblies]


[political-displaying Bharani-1] [navamsha Rahu-Simha]


  • [Rahu-Mesha-Arya] shimmering illusion of championship * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of first-arrival pioneer * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary birth * extravagant muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent [but perhaps not authentic] attributes of heroic action * seeks privilege via innovator-roles
  • [Rahu in bhava-11] passion for prestige rewards * in Roguish Rahu's svabhava co-ruled by materialistic Shani * the Shadowy Specter seeks glamorous material attainments * outsider who cleverly insinuates into social-networking roles * high-risk marketplace gains * ravenous for revenues * astounding awards * extraordinary economic connections * desires linkage into privileged systems * expediently gainful assemblies * opportunistic community activism * over-reaching friendships * craves prodigious profitability * exciting culturally-mixed gridworks * phony fellowship * may pose as a populist *boundary-breaching aim-achievement * looks like a relative of the father's people * thrillingly surge of amazing earnings * trespasses the normal cultural limits on distributive association
  • [Rahu-yuti-Mangala] amplified competition * magnified championship * exotic pursuits * tricky innovation * opportunistic brother-warriors * fascinating [but perhaps illusory] appearance of dynamic energy * hypnotic attack * passion for engines * craves hot movement * invasive force of cross-cultural mixing



kavandha-karaka [headless] chidra-karaka [gaping] vasana-karaka [vacuum]

[for Mithuna indriya-lagna]

[scattered diplomatic intelligence]

[disengaged witness to politics of alliance]

[liberated from bright displays of partnership]

[disregard for the drama of empty vows]


[earning-connecting Arcturus-3] [navamsha Ketu-Kumbha]

  • [Ketu-Tula] justly dissociates from negotiation * wanders away from compromise * eccentric alliances * abandons agreements * apathetic trades * surrenders trust * ignores restriction on match-making * releases a pale pastel cloud of fair deals into the misty abyss
  • [Ketu in classroom-5] ambivalent toward ceremony * disoriented offspring * wandering eldest child * demonstrates dramatic confidence in non-existent things * apathetic toward intellectual authenticity * ungrounded speculation * disregards standard intelligence * eccentric creativity * incoherent romantic ideals * disinterested in games * liberation via surrender of entitlements * unless other graha in 5 or Ketu's ruler is strong, may prefer to live free from children



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"And now my friends,

all that is true, all that is noble,

all that is just and pure,

all that is loveable and gracious,

whatever is excellent and admirable -

fill all your thoughts with these things."

~~ Paul of Tarsus, Epistle to the Philippians 4:8

Brihaspati-yuti-Shukra nichha is also problematic for relationships with women. Yet Guru-Shukra are holding excellent positions in navamsha-4 Meena suggesting that life-partner-1 is a person of artistic and spiritual character who may be deeply forgiving of the masculine nativity's additional interests.

Herbert Hoover was a devout Quaker in private practice and a vigorous exponent of Quaker principles in public life. Hoover worked most days of his life from morning until night. His primary expression of Quaker belief was the sober lifestyle which undergirded his extraordinary work ethic.

  • during the USA Great Depression, Shani-9 caused his downfall in the USA presidency. Rigid refusal to change his doctrinaire free-market ideology [Shani-Urisha = cintamani * mani * money -policies] forced him into the role of the dogmatic preacher. while economic collapse deepened and desperate poverty spread throughout the nation on an unprecedented scale, Hoover continued to preach the message of saving and self-reliance. Loud calls for government safety-net assistance to the growing underclass were ignored; hobo camps called Hoovervilles showed the contempt Americans felt for their uncaring president.

  • Hoover was wiped out by the landslide victory of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt . True to FDR's Shani-8, FDR immediately passed emergency laws Shani-8 using pooled funds [8, tax monies] to structure government work programs [Shani] for millions.

Hoover was a prolific author of engineering books, and considered a high academic authority in that emerging scientific field.

  • Speaking was hard for Hoover, and being before a crowd was an ordeal.
  • He seemed stiff and monotonous before big crowds, and he was shy with strangers.


  • Exceptionally wealthy via speculative investments in minerals + mining, specialist in famine avoidance and food distribution challenges.

  • Traveled constantly and extensively.

  • Mines and metallurgy; food and farming; government efficiency and volunteer organizations; Quaker morality [nīcha] Shukra, quietude] .

Hoover was a brilliant man, a renowned author, and a highly accomplished business entrepreneur. Nevertheless, he completely lost the public confidence . His economic policies -- based on elaborate principled arguments for the corrective effects of free markets -- did not adapt to the new fact that the economy did not self-correct during the Great Depression.

  • Would not join Stanford fraternities nor allow his sons to join any.
  • A great deal of ocean travel.
  • Extremely good at mining ventures , finding great supplies of mineral resource -- everything from gold and precious stones to coal and oil.
  • Ruler of the [10th navamsha] = very strong Budha in bhava-11 systems
  • vriddhi-pati ruler 11th from lagna = social-material relationship = Guru. Guru-yuti-Shukra = very close, expansive, abundant [but both men would have had polarizing catalysis with women due to the [nīcha] Shukra.]

Became a very financially privileged man, starting with the barter = move out of the Chinese coal company rights for move into a partnership in the London co.

By 1914, Hoover, operating on his own since 1907, had important investments on every continent and offices in San Francisco, London, Saint Petersburg, and Mandalay. Once he remarked that if a man "has not made a million dollars by the time he is forty he is not worth much."

Hoover was worth about $4 million at the beginning of World War I. Under both POTUS-29 Teapot Dome 1865-1923 Warren G. Harding and POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge , Herbert Hoover became the most visible man in government.

public negative perception during his presidency: unsmiling square face and starched collars; general apathy and lack of connection toward the very poor, exploited classes, suffering

  • Ambivalence, apathy [Ketu-2] toward medicine, war, conflict, poverty crime [Hoovervilles] scattered attention to the very poor and exploited
  • Ambition [Rahu-12] to be recognized as an important figure in distant lands or a master of clandestine operations [cooperative of USA intelligence agencies]