Most challenging bhava = 3,4,5,6,11
Great pride in one's children and in the products of one's own unique intelligence.
Bhava-1 signifies personal competition for social validation through a winning combination of physical behaviors and traits.
Thula-1 seeks to develop the physical personality identity through association with Attorneys and conflict resolution through the law courts, negotiation and brokering, making of contracts and alliances, and relationships which enhance mutual wealth and pleasure of the partners.
The social personality has an inherent affinity for balancing and arranging, architecture and design , works of fine art and musical composition, and luxurious surroundings.
Thula-1 = particularly influenced by one's partners, both personal and professional (whether favorably or not); one prefers an aesthetic response to life.
Thula, Life, and Death
Zukra's co-lordship of bhava-8 Vrishabha can be problematic, at least in the public perception. Thula can, ironically, seem rather macabre in the extent of one's tolerance for the violence of the cycle of death-and-rebirth .
Thula accepts death as an aesthetically vital part of life's constant re-balancing, and Thula does not complain about the necessity of having to die in exchange for the possibility of a better new life.
Thula natives love mysteries and secrets (8).
Thula-1 may be a skilled director of stable, harmonious relationships and good design in all things . Yet, one is simultaneously quite aware of the presence of those cyclical forces which cause the death of relationships (8), and which eventually create the perfect conditions for the death of ones own self (8).
In addition to being naturally gifted with physical beauty * presuming Zukra is benevolent * Thula-1 easily accepts professional"handling" to improve their presentation, through skillful use of scents, paints and costume. Their appearance is normally impeccable.
This nativity will flourish when Zukra, Shani and Chandra are strong, and Kuja/Surya/Guru do not interfere. Guru as L-3+rogesha-6 is a naturally less benevolent influence upon this native. Ideally Guru should be weak.
Thula's signature capability is the power to create and sustain many layers of supportive agreements.
Thula succeeds through a combination of
The list of global power brokers, religious leaders, and celebrities at left indicates how inordinately influential are Thula nativities in the world.
Das / Behari comment on Thula= bhava-1:
[applies as well or better to Chandra lagna]
"Libra Ascendant usually bestows a long face, an attractive appearance, tender eyes, and sparsely set teeth.
Saturn is a very powerful planet for you.
Jupiter is also very good.
Fond of helping the lowly, and so much so that you may use base acts to achieve your goals.
You respect spiritual leaders because they respect principle centered persons.
You are often too driven to stick strictly to principles yourself , but would rather see to it that the objective gets carried out ."
Historical Values, Collection + Portfolio, Hoards + Storage, Acquisitions, Treasuries of treasuries + Knowledge
Because Kuja rules 2nd-from-lagna and 7th-from-lagna, Thula natives have an ambitious and competitive approach to matters of partnership and wealth-storage. One requires forward movement in relationships, and is always bent on acquiring more knowledge, food, or cintamani * mani * money .
Kuja family knowledge-values-action
Vrizchika = penetration, invasion, infiltration, subterfuge, emergency, and forced transformation. Thula-1 may hail from a family lineage of engineers (Kuja) such as miners, drillers, machinists, surgeons, divers, excavators, detonators, dynamiters, cutters, shooters, hunters, poisoners, or similar Mangala expertise. The Vrizchika lineage also executes transmission of secrets and hidden treasures, therefore sometimes money-handlers, bankers, keepers of repository and cache of mysterious values.
Add in more details from also 2nd-from-Chandra. The disposition of Mangala and graha within bhava-2 will add more puzzle-pieces to the family lineage picture.
A penetrating drive toward ancient knowledge, languages, history, stored wealth and collections of mystical art and music. Knowledge of the cycle of birth and death.
Exploratory, archeological, tantrik approach to knowledge, wealth, values, history of one's people. Appearance of face, hair etc. is slightly sharp. Periods of Kuja may time surgeries to the face and neck, teeth and jaw.
The family history suffers from secrecy, and is subject to sudden, forced changes during periods of Kuja (and other graha in bhava-2). The changes may range from slightly unsettling to massive and catastrophic, depending on graha in bhava-2. (Exempli gratia, if Rahu in bhava-2, family upheaval is much amplified.) The scale of the forced changes may be hidden from public view.
Native stores knowledge and wealth deep within the self. Memory-storage mechanism is internally deep and recycling. Able to call forth, from hidden resources, the values and knowledge needed for the task at hand.
Stored wealth may be increased by inheritance, lotteries, insurance settlements, and hidden sources.
Thula-1 may experience intense hunger, driving one to eat furiously.
Hoarded wealth commodities and volume depend on condition of Kuja. Values are self-reflective, mystical, tantrik, and focused on psychic power. Less interest in accumulating knowledge or goods which do not facilitate deeper understandings.
Appreciates the dark side of human nature and the instructional value of pain. Controls an appreciable amount of treasuries increasing throughout the lifetime, punctuated with severe losses due to the catastrophic cycle of Vrischika. Secretive about their acquisitions.
In bhava-2, Rahu + Yogakaraka Shani suffers a variety of competitive avarice for values-based knowledge along with expressions of highly educated (4 + 5) taste:"classic"art, music, furniture, and styles of dress. For Thula lagna, Ketu afflicts bhava-2 = treasuries, speech and song, knowledge of languages, and historical values especially collections of treasuries.
Thula-1 is raised with an active (Kuja) even Aggressive but also mystically Ambivalent approach to asserting one's wealth-building behaviors .
The family history may become distant (Ketu) or aggressive (Kuja); Thula-1 typically feels a considerable ambivalence toward the historic values of one's own family, and often breaks away from the lineage values.
Graha in Bhava-2 expression prize * price * appreciation * preciousness or changes to the appreciativeness of the family (2) toward the native.
The type of appreciation is determined by the character of the graha.
Surya in bhava-2 * the family is charismatic, political, and theatrical. The family's style of showing appreciation to the native depends upon the type of treasury that one brings into the family coffers. The father is primarily concerned with maintaining the financial well being of the lineage. Father may be involved in banking, storage, collections, conservation, value, traditional knowledge, genetic breeding, historical records. Patriarchal figures are prone toward self-righteousness and usually the father is the solar center of the lineage.
Surya occupies Vrizchika * ruler of 11 resides in 2 * dhanayoga
Chandra in bhava-2 * the family is sensitive and routinized in their style of showing appreciation to the native. . Mother may be primarily concerned with maintaining the financial well being of the lineage. She can be involved with banking, storage, collections, environmental conservation, value, genetic breeding, lineage knowledge, historical records. Mother is often at the center of the lineage. This line features a gentle moonglow facial radiance.
Suggests a family lineage that is deeply identified with the Old Ways (Soma) but feeling a need to mask and mystify the values of the traditional folkways.
Mangala in bhava-2* the family is competitive and outspoken in their style of showing appreciation to the native. . Brothers are dominating and vigorous. Often an athletic or warrior lineage. The native and the brothers are concerned with financial well-being, which is typically present at birth and energetically pursued by the native. Karaka for two marriages since yuvati pathi Mangala occupies 2.
The family may be dynamically successful in their pursuit of material treasures, particularly conserving wealth derived from Mangala acts such as military invasion, forceful explorations, weaponry, engineering, surgical tools, driving, diving, drilling, plumbing, plowing, hunting, excavating, explosives.
Mangala-Vrizchika * Swakshetra * ruler of 2-7 resides in 2
Budha in bhava-2* the family is communicative and gesturing in their style of showing appreciation to the native. Younger siblings of either gender may be managers of the financial well being of the lineage. Siblings and cohort-members can be involved with banking, storage, collections, conservation, value, animal breeding, lineage knowledge, historical records. Siblings are often active in the center of the lineage.
Budha in Vrizchika * ruler of 9-12 resides in 2
Guru in bhava-2 * the family is expansive and inclusive in their style of showing appreciation to the native. . In the nativity of a wife, her husband (dhava-karaka Guru) is a curator of the marriage finances. In the nativity of a husband, the finances are influence by the paradigm of belief. One's own knowledge of values and history is expanded by the presence of teacher-preachers in the family lineage. Sacred doctrine may play a central role in the family tradition.
* ruler of 3-6 resides in 2
Zukra in bhava-2 * the family is balanced, aesthetic, and aligned to financial well-being in their style of showing appreciation to the native. For a husbandly nativity, Zukra indicates the wife. For either husband or wife, Zukra indicates sister, sisters-in-law, aunts, and female associates are lovers of luxury and they are beautiful in a mysterious way. One often has a seductively attractive voice. The sisterly-ones are concerned with financial well-being, which is typically present at birth and improved by the contractual, agreement-making abilities of the women and the native. Lagnesha-in-2 suggests that one is significantly identified with the treasury and facial appearance of the family lineage.
Zukra-Vrizchika * ruler of 1-8 resides in 2
Shani in bhava-2 * the family is delayed or stalled in their style of showing appreciation to the native. Yet in time the necessary healing transformations will arrive. Despite Shani's yogakaraka status, he is uncomfortable in Vrischika. Anti-movement, anti-change Shani deeply challenged by Kuja-driven Vrizchika's mandate to constant rebirth. Periods of sudden remarkable wealth may be succeeded by periods of destitution, followed again by rebirth into a new type of holdings.
For Shani-Vrischika-2, "The Keep" of bhava-2 is better suited to acquisition of mysterious knowledge and other valuable treasures which benefit from changing form. This placement is not designed to sustain fixed material containment but it is a rich setting for libraries of hidden historical knowledge.
Professor Shani casts drishti into 4-8-11 cramping the childhood home, imposing strictures in the foundational education, limiting the inheritance, and reducing economic gains. The family carries a weight of perceptual limitation due to materialism, preventing it from appreciating its own lineage. Often the eyes are affected in this lineage. Agents of the government, officers of the social order, the elderly, hierarchs, and other Shani-figures may limit and restrain the family's acquisitions. Shani produces heavy restraint and social obligations upon the lineage, constraining but not denying wealth acquired via
Shani in Vrizchika * yogakaraka ruler of 4-5 resides in 2
Rahu in bhava-2 * the family is ambitious and seeking social mobility in their style of showing appreciation to the native. . Often the lineage is irregular in some fashion; most typically an imposter from another line is claiming legitimacy in the family line (usually a case of disguised parentage. Rahu's angle from Chandra will reveal this impostor.). Rahu-2 indicates a craving to expediently obtain the privileges accorded to the class of bankers, hoarders, treasurers, and preservers.
May an obsessive collector of mysterious things. Vrizchika favors sudden attacks; the family's response to the native is often volatile and unpredictable. If the family finds it expedient to promote and appreciate the native, this may occur. If the family finds it expedient to disgrace and scapegoat the native, this may also occur. Find Rahu's ruler, and evaluate other graha in 2, to determine which path is most instrumental for roguish Rahu.
Lineage features individual or family over-reaching (Rahu) via hidden assets, secrets, sudden unexpected changes, transformation of identity, undisclosed knowledge.
Ketu in bhava-2* the family is dispersed and disregarding in their style of showing appreciation to the native. Professor Ketu is often surprisingly helpful for providing the benefits of non-interference in Vrischika, where He is co-ruler. Ssecond lifepartnership often unsustainable. The family's lineage wealth remains unmolested, but the emotional protectiveness and persistence of the bonds between family members may dissolve. The native's own treasuries may follow a pattern of disappearance, restoration, and disappearance on a cycle determined by the Vimshottari Dasha. Find Ketu's ruler, and evaluate other graha in 2, to determine which outcomes are likeliest.
Expansive and humanistic Guru rules a bhava of mentalized Budha.
The daily thoughts are infused with religious awareness, but Attention to administrative detail may be distracted by higher concepts. Liberal (book-study) minded; enjoys the company of teachers.
Guru = lord of 3rd-from-lagna and 6th-from-lagna.
One accepts the repetitive daily communications as a positive social experience and there is even a degree of embrace for the internal argumentativeness which causes external conflict.
In Guru's view, it's all good: nothing is rejected. Thus health imbalance-seeking-a-remedy and communication dysfunctions may be tolerated for a long time.
Mental machinery of speech, writing, and gesture are broad and expansive. Courageous and optimistic mental viewpoint..
If Brihaspati is well placed, the thinking process itself is inclusive, comprehensive, and humanistic.
If Guru is ill-disposed, communicative style may tend toward unsupportably optimistic generalizations, pious platitudes, and truisms.
Native has a large toolkit of communicative devices, and can"get out the message" on a large scale.
Conflict between Brihaspati's wisdom-teaching agenda and Budha's data-detail orientation leads to a frustration with most administrative roles. Co-workers and teammates may find Thula-1 to be ponderous and overly concerned with the big picture, when the job calls for detail management.
Thula-1 's enthusiasm is indeed dulled by repetitive tasks which do not facilitate wisdom-learning (Guru's only goal) and as a consequence, one may be unable to tolerate modern office jobs, unless they have a teaching dimension.
An natural teacher-trainer in many subjects. . Seeks the"teaching opportunity" to conferences, meetings and repetitive social engagements. Friendly, positive and non-confrontational. Enjoys building contacts and participating in teams. Great for politics and corporate success.
Supports favorable relationships with siblings if the third bhava from Chandra is favorable. Likes to coach, guide, train, and facilitate in the local (department, town, regional) setting.
Das / Behari commentary: Dhanavana = bhava-3:
"You gain courage by self-discipline,
You are active and like law and order.
Your spouse has a good influence on you."
Home, family, security, education, indoctrination, cultural acceptance, the early childhood home, effect of mother's culture
Shani rules the swabhava of enemy Chandra.
Work-master Shani rules a bhava of sheltering, sensitive and comfort-seeking Chandra.
Whether male or female, one fulfills a law-giver role at home.
Lagnesha Zukra = great friend of Shani and therefore the early childhood situation is stable, safe, and not unduly contentious. (unless Mangala or Rahu disturbs the house)
Drive to achieve education and emphasize the common structure underlying all systems of folk customs and established cultural norms. Shani is the fixed enemy of special genius Surya. Thula-1 may not be too sentimental (Chandra) about defense of the homeland. One tends to normalize (4) human society into an aggregate structure, denying any claims about cultural superiority (Surya) of one's own cultural roots, or other royalist assertions.
Parents and early childhood education = Rules, Rules, Rules
Shani gives a shrewd practical survival approach and ongoing resistance to the conditions in place within one's childhood home.
Scarcity (Shani) and respect for rules (Makara) are key elements of the upbringing.
Others may cherish their parents, viewing these dedicated caretakers uncritically or even worshipfully; yet Thula natives are not sentimental. If there are criticisms of the parents, Thula will assess those objectively. Thula shows respect to parents but not always affection and certainly not uncritical affection; that is how these natives were raised.
The parents = "hierophants " dedicated to the promotion and maintenance of large pyramid-shaped social institutions from which they derive their primary identity. Parents are sensitive and respectful to all matters of class, rank, and social station. The family home is bound by numerous strict rules of order, and the childhood education follows the mainstream public conventions of the time.
If Shani = a problematic graha due to its role in the overall nativity, the upbringing can repeat the narrative of deprivation, constriction, enforced conformism, and bondage to Time.
If Shani is well-disposed, Thula-1 may enjoy a certain level of material privilege.
Even if, from the outside, Thula-1 's childhood home appears comfortable or privileged, that is never the whole story.
i nner strictness of parental rules and the deeper anxiety about potential instability of the social order as a whole marks all Thula natives.
The rules of the home will ensure that the childhood is experienced as a time of significant workload, duty, and lawful responsibility.
Often scarcity of parental affection (Shani overriding Chandra) and a culture of constraint in the childhood home.
Known for their disciplined and austere approach toward the task of completing examinations, Thula natives regularly succeed in obtaining difficult diplomas, licenses, and certifications (4).
These natives are known for self-denial and their power to postpone pleasures in favor of longer term goals. A non-indulgent childhood actually prepares Thula to face most adult situations with sobriety and a time-management plan. Thula natives train their intelligence (5) and finish their homework (4).
Emotional needs for security and comfort must be suppressed in order to achieve security and comfort!
The childhood home emphasized public conformity, and relationship to parents is more a duty than a desire. Parental negligence. Cultural indoctrination levels of education carry forward ethnno-cultural values of emotional discipline and austerity.
Education is interrupted or delayed at several points. Thula-1 may have to"go back to school" repeatedly. Shani in bhava-4 gives discipline and successful suppression of emotional needs in order to complete the education. Thula-1 does well in school. Shani in bhava-2 makes the education gainful. Shani in bhava-3 may dissolve educational opportunities during Shani periods.
Conservative, conventionalized relationship to parents, who are not emotionally demonstrative and who emphasize performance of duty rather than affectionate bonds. Respect for ethnic custom and tradition. Understands the rules of vehicle operation and land management, but personal property ownership is much delayed. < ul>
During Shani periods, may live in collective housing. Appearance of the home and vehicle is modest and unimposing, very uniform, and likely one of a large number of identical properties.
Requires and imposes orderly process in basic education; prefers practical, skill-based training on a fixed schedule with rule-driven outcomes.
If Shani is benevolent, makes a fine school teacher, home-builder, vehicle engineer, or town manager.
Das * Behari commentary on Makara = bhava-4:
"... makes you inwardly rebellious and full of desires that you probably don't show to the outside world.
You are really driven , but you may show calm outwardly."
Romance, Creativity, Children, Performance Art, Authorship, Genius
Shani's governance is strongly impeded in the swabhava of enemy Surya.
Because Shani rules 4th-from-lagna and 5th-from-lagna, Thula natives have a disciplined and austere approach toward matters of cultural education and expressions of creative genius. These natives are known for skillful problem-solving. They are well-prepared to face most situations because Thula natives train their intelligence and do their homework.
Shani is yoga-karaka for Thula lagna. Results of Shani as ruler of enemy Surya's bhava are surprisingly favorable as a rule. Controlled self-expression prevents going overboard, gives a steady upward climb in large organizational hierarchies.
Depending on the condition of Shani , the Self may express in a reserved or eccentric way. Native is considered interesting and philosophical, even visionary -- but still conservative and group-oriented. Their vision is socially egalitarian and inclusive.
Children can be problematic. Most common issue is physical and emotional distancing, due to the parent's public duties. Thula-1 may hold an idealized view of childhood and of one's own children, which prevents intimacy and acceptance.
If Shani is benevolent Thula-1 may be an exemplary educator, inspiring students to reach high standards. Children may also receive benefits of parents' social position. Children may compensate for lack of direct parenting by forming valuable relationships with the parents' friends. Community child-raising is favored.
For Thula lagna, Rahu afflicts fifth house of children, theatre, politics, creativity, and Divine intelligence.
Conditions for producing and raising children, and one's ability to receive praise for acts of creative genius (5) will occur in the context of a certain scientific rigidity (Shani) combined with sudden attacks of upheaval due to passionate behavior of the children (especially the eldest child).
Thula-1's children (5) are subject to mixed signals :
Children can be produced or acquired in periods of lagnesha-1 Zukra+ vidyapathi-5 Shani, dharmesha-9 Budha as well as periods of putrakaraka Guru.
Because Guru the karaka for children is also L-3+rogesha-6 for Thula lagna, childbirth is not easy, often accompanied by illness or injury, and child-raising tends to induce dissolution of the home (3) and dissolution of marriage bond (6).
Children are a stress source for Thula even while Thula-1 loves the children very much. Number of children is typically limited because vidyapathi-5 Shani is a karaka for scarcity, limitation, reduction of available resources - particularly Time.
The Thula female often has a maternal instinct for governance due to Chandra as karmesha-10 , therefore much of the parenting instinct may be parlayed into taking care of entire societies and not focused on one's own family.
Shani rules a bhava of Surya = incompatible influences; hot bright stream and cold dark stream mixing in the same channel.
Das / Beharicommentary on Kumbha = bhava-5
"... influences you in very important ways.
Only after great effort will you succeed in begetting children,
Your scrupulous adherence to an ethical way of life will often put you to serious trials , but you will be able to withstand the ordeals of principled living .
You will be interested in making life useful
You will be prepared to be a martyr for the sake of attaining the goal in life.
Your ideas, however well-meaning, will create problems for you and your parents."
Tolerant Meena governs the ministries of service, dissolution of mutually supportive agreements, and capacity for logical argument.
There is a great openness and kindly acceptance toward all sorts of people who suffer from crippling poverty (6) toxic jealousy (6) bitter animosity (6) exploitative behaviors (6) extreme narrowness of viewpoint (6) and chronic argumentativeness (6).
The problem-solving mind is positively bulging with an abundance of humanistic philosophical conflicts
Caution = Psychic overextension
Due to their well-meaning openness toward all beings, Thula must consciously enforce their psychic boundaries .
Thula natives and to a nearly equal extent also Karkata natives (for whom Guru also rules 6) may suffer disease originating in toxic environments which are ultimately caused by the blaming, accusative, toxic argumentation of 6
proliferation and abundance of a great amount of conflict in Thula-1 's social, physical, emotional, financial, mental, even spiritual environments.
Both Thula and Karkata may overexpand physically with some tendency toward fleshly obesity in a misguided attempt to"include"all these many problems in one's personal"space"
It should be understood that the originators of the conflicts are largely"others "and the problems rightfully"belong" to persons who belong to a class below the class of Thula-1
the psychic principle applies: one who insists on solving the problems of others will be suitably punished
Excellent placement for
Special affinity to handle conflicts (6) regarding social policy and social governance(10).
Thula natives have an expansive and tolerant approach toward those expressions of social conflict which results from an internal narrative of blaming and accusation (6).
In Guru's non-discriminatory view,"it's all good": nothing in the many realms of material-spiritual manifestation is ever rejected.
Health imbalance-seeking-a-remedy, blaming behaviors, poverty, and conditions of war may be tolerated for a long time.
Health can be compromised by excess and abundance. Extensive public duties may lead to much grazing at social events, and excess unmonitored intake of food and drink may lead to portliness or indigestion. However in general if Guru is even reasonably well positioned, Thula-1 will enjoy good health and good company.
Depending on condition of Guru , tends to have few real enemies. Many people will feel obliged to follow one's instructions or commands despite feeling exploited by one's higher knowledge. Guru is a priest and this native is a pries to the unbalanced and unfortunate, those unable to locate a point of agreement in their own lives.
Thula-1 is a beacon of wisdom-light and yet many will disagree with the wisdom; Thula-1 's beliefs may not be well liked or trusted and yet one will be respected, and one's commands will be heeded no matter the amount of complaining (and often depending on Professor Guru the amount of complaining may be significant!).
Thula-1 may be unpopular at times, but Guru as ruler of the evil 6th house assures that Thula-lagna's balanced, attractive, relationship-valuing assets are stronger than the potential animosity deficit which attends Ari bhava in any nativity.
They get into trouble during periods of rogesha-6 just like everyone else, but their virtues tend to balance out their faults, and their friends will outnumber their enemies. Generally when they err or irritate it will be perceived by their colleagues that they received bad advice.
This person makes their fair share of mistakes. But they value relationships, and they are quick to repair the damage. Rarely suffers long-lasting ill will.
Das / Behari : says of Meena = bhava-6:
Das / Behari comment on karmesha-10 Chandra-Meena = bhava-6:
= 7th from Thula lagna
= 7th from Thula Chandra
= 7th from Thula navamsha
| Mesha governs the character of shared-equity alliances + one's capacity to keep promises and maintain trust. |
Characteristics of bhava-7 define the spousal behaviors, which behaviors are the result of Thula-1's own subconscious expectations.
Generally Thula-1 expects (whether consciously or not) to mate with a person (male or female) of hot, vital, irascible, innovative, sporting,"alpha", and muscularly active personality.
The partner requires vigorous movement and has primitive, aggressive, animal tendencies which can aid success in competitive business but also harm the prospects for long-term harmony in relationships.
A conundrum for Thula marriage =
Mangala is impatient therefore longer term marriages for Thula may require considerable accommodation of the restless, impulsive, and sometimes angry expressions of the more simplistic nature of the spouse.
Thula-1 has a more complex and balanced character in contrast to the spouses that the Thula expects to acquire who are in comparison more simple and direct. Thula-1 applies their harmonious, willing-to-negotiate, and balanced perspective to matters of marriage.
Yet if Mangala is ill-disposed no matter the intent of Thula's diplomacy, the primitive animal urgency of Mangala may force the spouse to seek outlets for the sexual, muscular, impulsive life-force energies of the flesh.
Such a mate generally behaves in a competitive and dominating style toward members of their own gender whilst they focus a sexually ambitious and conquesting energy upon members of the gender with whom they prefer to partner.
Thula natives have an ambitious and competitive approach to matters of partnership and wealth-storage. One requires forward movement in relationships, and is always bent on acquiring more knowledge, food, or cintamani * mani * money .
Marriage relations can be predominantly physical, with early attraction inspired by competitive success. Depends as always on the condition of Kuja.
Contracts, agreements, legal discussions, all types of advising are actively pursued and negotiated. Due to Shani's strength in Thula nativities, divorce is less common, but marital unhappiness may increase with time. Despite a tolerance or even enjoyment of protracted negotiations in small-group and public settings, Thula-1 may need to feel a quick 'win' in intimate relationships. Combative, aggressive streak in marriage is noted.
Career-wise, this argumentative or actively negotiating character can be beneficial in law, politics, and higher levels corporate management.
Spouse is generally athletic or professionally competitive. If Shani is benevolent, the spouse's career is complementary to Thula-1 . If Kuja is benevolent, the spouse is vital and embraces challenge. If Kuja is less benevolent, marriage is conflicted and the career will not develop to full potential, so important is yuvati bhava to the total career success.
~~ Bhrigu Sutram Ch. 2 4 Shloka 11
"If Aries, Scorpionis be descending, or Mars' Navamsha be descending,
the woman will get a husband, angry but devoted to her."
~~ BPHS Ch. 80,shloka 22-25
"If at woman's birth, the 7th bhava or the setting Navamsha be that of Mars,
the husband will be fond of other women and will be of an irascible temper."
Das / Behari comment on Mesha = bhava-7
8th from Thula lagna = 8th from Thula Chandra = 8th from Thula navamsha
Nativities developed from a baseline of Thula lagna (similar to nativities developed from a baseline of Mesha lagna) must accommodate the psycho-physical reality that one's social identity is subject to regular upheavals. This phenomenon is due to the fact that lagnesha Zukra rules both the fleshly-form, social-attribute-package baseline of the Thula lagna, as well as the sudden-change-of-form, disruption-of-development 8th bhava.
Thus, Vimshottari periods of Zukra function as a double-edged sword, creating experiences which radically redefine the social-material identity , often via some challenge or alteration to the integrity of the physical appearance.
If there are exacerbating contributors such as malefic graha in either bhava-1 or bhava-8 * especially in 8 * or Zukra has a relationship to 8th-from-Chandra, there can be truly catastrophic upheavals in the material-social identity during Zukra periods.
The total outcome is often positive in a life-defining spiritual way.
Zukra periods cause Thula-1 to hold as firmly as possible to the material identity (lagnesha function) while simultaneously the function of the randhresha-8 is explicitly a breaking apart, un-sticking, in-coherence in Thula-1 's psycho-physical self-recognition.
One is forced to assume a higher viewpoint of the greater cycles of life and in the process one becomes open to absorption of transformative tantrik knowledge (8).
Vrishabha governs the experience of sudden, forced changes as the life-force moves from one form into the next.
Outcome of rapid-change events such as emergencies, disasters, sudden death-and-rebirth = very much altered by occupants of the house and condition of lagnesha Zukra.
Guru or Zukra in 8 indicates significant treasury of the spouse.
while occupation by Rahu the impostor or Ketu the abandoner or drishti of or occupation by Shani the reducer can show poverty of the spousal treasury.
Rahu-8, although purportedly exalted in Vrishabha, spins the cycle of destruction-and-rebirth too quickly. The minute one has some sort of financial wealth , one destroys it, due to seeking a higher value .
Zukra lagnesha =lord of 8th-from-lagna. Thula natives have lifelong relationship (Zukra) to mysteries and secrets (8).
In the preliminary negotiations which occur in the astral plane before Thula-1 is allowed to take birth, one is possessed of harmony-seeking, diplomatic behaviors in the process of defining and stabilizing all of the highly complex agreements which are required to be in place before manifestation of the forthcoming fleshly development (1) and vitalizing a physical human form (1).
Thus this native is a natural negotiator of the continuing albeit often awkward (6/8) cycles of birth and death, stability and change, mass and energy, form and content.
Dealings with in-laws are eased from the natural adversarial Kuja -driven situation into more pleasurable and balanced relation Speech and values of the spouse are pleasure-oriented, sensual and sweet. Adversarial conversations between the partners are extremely rare.
Spouse's Wealth, 1st marriage:
The joint assets of marriage will accumulate on a balanced program, with each spouse contributing their fair share. Spouse's family wealth originates from cattle and historic family lands .
Sensual fruits of the land including wines and liqueurs, perfumes, fine foods, lovely oils, and dairy products of the cattle are often the source of spousal family wealth. Vrishabha rules the mouth, teeth, and throat. If Zukra occupies 8, wealth from speeches, music or musical instruments including the voice.
Hidden, confidential information and secret relationships are pleasurable and well-balanced. Extramarital affairs are easy to conduct and do not disturb the fabric of married life. Surgeries if needed will enhance bodily alignments and provide cosmetic benefits.
Das / Behari commentary on Vrishabha = bhava-8:
"Your spouse may be unsympathetic ,
You respect the energy of nature perhaps more than the idea of the creator of nature."
Budha's governance is not impeded by Guru.
Principles of Philosophical understanding;
High-Priesthood; pontiff, proselyte
Guru; Professor; University;
Wisdom Wit Knowings;
Father-figure; Pitri, patrons, patronage;
doctrinal instruction and paradigm of belief
human perception of Divine Law
Mithuna governs the teacher-preacher knowledge delivery roles and capacity for wisdom via world travel
Thula natives especially like to communicate (Mithuna) about ceremonial religions (9) and wisdom teachings especially sacred texts. They favor a priestly or professorial style (9) of making reports and announcements (Mithuna) .
Theological studies are favored and publications on philosophical topics will succeed if Budha is well placed. Thula-1 may sound like (Mithuna) a know-it-all "brainiac" due to a tendency to reverse the proper forms:
Discourse styles "flipped"
Thula often will substitute a common, everyday talk style (Mithuna) into their professorial discourse (9) which can give the impression of trivializing the deeply held convictions of faith and religious practice.
Thula also suffers the reverse problem of bringing an expansive philosophical discourse style (Dhanushya) into their daily life chat with workmates and neighbors (3) which can make them sound ponderous and egg-heady.
However if properly handled, the"flipped" communications situation is good for publication (3) of philosophical (9) writings (3) and professorship (9) in topical areas of mundane media communications (3), scholarly studies (9) in sociolinguistics and discourse analysis (3), and university studies (9) on individual words e.g. etymology (3) and grammatical forms (3) of written and spoken texts (3)
Can be a bit of chameleon, adopting various belief systems for pragmatic purposes, then moving on to a new set of beliefs when expedient.
Can mirror the dominant ideology toward the public very successfully, presuming that Professor Budha is competent.
Das / Behari
comment on Mithuna = bhava-9:
"You gain polarization mental empowerment to and discriminate about spiritual matters."
Das commentary = "Gemini is in 9, and Venus is in 9."
"You are concerned, in a worldly sense, with the comfort of others.
You have money for affluent living.
But your involvement with social services is to gratify your own senses and to glorify yourself.
You will travel widely."
Bhava 10 *
10th from Thula lagna * 10th from Thula Chandra * 10th from Thula navamsha
Leadership responsibilities; public reputation and recognition;
Sympathetic, nourishing, sheltering Chandra rules bhava-10; therefore, Thula = fundamentally profession-oriented and loyal to the institutional culture.
Dedicated to the rhythms of the social order . Shelters and supports the leaders, the policies, the laws, the regulations, the hierarchies, the step-wise ascension process, the privilege order, the social ranks.
May defend and protect (Chandra) any lawfully principled institutionalized process, even a harmful one. If Chandra is afflicted, emotionally based privilege-obtainment issues may arise.
Karkata governs the public reputation + one's capacity to accept and fulfill social leadership responsibilities
Career, Profession, and Regulatory Roles
Naturally, whichever bhava is ruled by Chandra the Lord of tides and flows will have an estuarial character = sometimes dry and sometimes flooded.
Thula-1 will hold numerous positions, titles, responsibilities, and organizational affiliations throughout life.
Thula-1 should never fear if a job or rank is lost; another surge of responsibility will indeed follow any lost position, similar to the ocean tides.
Career recognition for one's capacity to govern (to regulate social environments) is strongest during periods of Chandra.
Because Chandra rules 10th-from-lagna, Thula natives apply their deepest nurturing feelings to their social leadership position. One brings a caring and parental approach to organization governance and positions of social responsibility.
Thula lagna natives are often born to professionally recognized, working mothers.
Thula lagna is known as a"maker of leaders ". It is reputedly the most successful radix lagna for recognition in public life.
For the Balance lagna, Shani the Worker becomes Yogakaraka, while Guru the Lord of Abundance rules mental (3) and physical (6) health. Thula-1 is rewarded for effort (Shani); and punished for excess (Guru). If karmesha-10 Chandra is well-disposed, there is an emotionally instinctive (Chandra) inclination to invest effort in leadership roles.
In maturity, Thula-1eschews the "easy way" (Guru) knowing from hard experience that only Shani's methods - delayed gratification, personal discipline , attention to detail - is the only assured path to success.
The highly fluctuating and impressionable Chandra provides direct, psycho- emotionally intuitive leadership.
Much depends on Chandra's Nakshatra, rashi, bhava, and drishti. Also the angle of Shani-Chandra and Guru-Chandra will significantly shape the leadership potential.
Satyagraha 1869-1948 Mahatma Mohandas Gandhi* 5/9 angle of Shani-Chandra gave his profound capacity to accept austerity in the circumstances of leadership . Chandra = karmesha-10 in 10 provided the instinctive parental leadership style. A world leader slowly but inexorably (Yogakaraka Shani) took his place in history (Chandra-Shani).
Bhava-10 is about public trust. A parental sense of responsibility in their leadership style. Thula lagna is famous for creating strong government, corporate, and military careers.
Not only is Shani the Yogakaraka for Thula lagna but also Chandra the 'parenting planet' rules the bhava of public trust.
Thula lagna's public presentation has a strongly emotional appeal . Style is authoritative, parental, and asserting seniority; also be patronizing, domineering, or even tyrannical - depending on highly impressionable Chandra, aspects to bhava-10, and 10th-from-10th yuvati bhava. It is essential to track Soma's behavior in D-9 and D-10 to know where the career will go.
Chandra is reflective and absorptive. Public can project their needs for parenting, security, and authoritative guidance upon Thula-1in a leadership role. May evoke fanatic trust and support when they lead in emotionally troubled times.
Professional Success depends on Chandra Ideally Chandra will be angular and receive friendly drishti. But even a poorly placed Chandra will contribute intuition and a gentle, parental, nurturing attitude in leadership roles. Professional reputation flourishes in specialties of caretaking and schooling . Thula enjoys business administration when they have an adequate scope (Dhanushya, 3) to express their humanistic views via world travel and teaching. Shani being yogakaraka L-4+L-5, matters related to foundational education in literacy and numeracy, as well as structured expressions of individual intelligence such as writing, will constitute their heaviest professional burden. Thula are typically great advocates of education for children. Management roles Thula enjoys managing transactions (3) that contain humanistic, philosophical teachings (Dhanushya) and collaborating with people who possess wisdom (Dhanushya, 3). of course, much depends upon the lord of the 10th navamsha as well as any graha occupying Bhava-10 or 10th-from-10th = Bhava-7.
Professional Success depends on Chandra
Ideally Chandra will be angular and receive friendly drishti. But even a poorly placed Chandra will contribute intuition and a gentle, parental, nurturing attitude in leadership roles.
Professional reputation flourishes in specialties of caretaking and schooling . Thula enjoys business administration when they have an adequate scope (Dhanushya, 3) to express their humanistic views via world travel and teaching.
Shani being yogakaraka L-4+L-5, matters related to foundational education in literacy and numeracy, as well as structured expressions of individual intelligence such as writing, will constitute their heaviest professional burden. Thula are typically great advocates of education for children.
Thula enjoys managing transactions (3) that contain humanistic, philosophical teachings (Dhanushya) and collaborating with people who possess wisdom (Dhanushya, 3).
of course, much depends upon the lord of the 10th navamsha as well as any graha occupying Bhava-10 or 10th-from-10th = Bhava-7.
Das / Beharicomment on Karkata = bhava-10:
"You generate profound ideas in approaching life's everyday problems.
Deep insight and adaptability enable you to function smoothly on many levels.
You are capable.
You will probably specialize in something that helps society.
An efficient administrator, poet, ruler, or a great saint,
Your stage of soul-development is key.
If your attachment to carnal passions is not yet over,
If you are already spiritually advanced,
Otherwise, an evolved soul under this influence will be immersed in universal consciousness, enjoying the bliss of spirituality.
This sign in the 10th house makes you a little special, and an interesting person to meet or know."
11th from Thula lagna = 11th from Thula Chandra= 11th from Thula navamsha
Surya's governance is impeded in the swabhava of Ravi's enemy Shani.
Simha governs the social networks + one's capacity to set lawful goals and achieve objectives in a regulated fashion
Because Surya rules 11th-from-lagna, Thula natives have self-focused view of the global marketplace, a politicized understanding of scientific conceptual systems, and in large assemblies they tend to assume directive roles.
Goals and achievements for Thula must reflect the presence of Divine intelligence, increase personal creativity, call attention to the Self, and open the heart.
Creative intelligence (Surya) = focused on gainful relationships in the marketplace. Thula natives are ego-membrane identified with large networks of associations and independent goal achievement. they develop strong friendship networks early in life.
Something about this native strikes people as " goal-assisting" or a" positive connection". Surya should be well disposed for the connectedness and profitability of this lordship to give full fruit.
However even a strongly placed Surya will have to do lifetime battle with the influence of Shani over His swabhava. Thula-1 's style of goal-achievement may be at loggerheads with conservative social practice, and one's method of earning income will certainly be distinctively independent.
A good deal of effort is expended in developing connective community relationships, which facilitate greater individual opportunity for material and spiritual achievement. This work tends to earn a low salary. Indeed, one often serves on a volunteer basis in order to advance one's vision of a better, more intelligent world for all..
When Surya is empowered, Thula-1 must earn through independent means such as consulting, self-owned business, literary authorship, or manufacturing one's own product.
Generally a Thula native will be well-known and respected, as well as successful in building very large connection networks. Thula-1 holds leadership position in several networks, particularly the networks which one has developed around one's own intelligence.
Seeks the company (11) of royals (Simha), theatricals, politicians, those with a celebrity lifestyle or some form of personal brilliance. Thula finds one's friends mainly among the ranks of the very bright and talented (depending of course on Ravi's character in the nativity). If Surya occupies 11, one may hold the prestigious center position within a large network of talented, self-focused, large-aura persons who hold various creative entitlements in the society.
The friends are not necessarily all leaders or holders of socially recognized high title. Rather, members of the network are distinguished by their remarkable intelligence in performance art (including certain inspired forms of teaching), in politics, theatre, games, and amusements; by their self-entitlement.
One may become genuinely friendly with one's children, sharing with the offspring a regal sense of self-entitlement and its concurrent (for Thula) engagement in social change.
One becomes an iconic symbol for a social participation movement; promoting one's individual genius and personal power in order to channel the force of divine inspiration that drives creative social change.
A king-maker in the best sense of shining the light of genius upon each person and commodity in the social and economic network .
Found often in the company (11) of kings (Simha) Thula networks in elite political settings and is especially suited to the top ranks of international diplomacy.
Centrality Entitlement Ego
The ideal community networking style = Shani = neutral, regulated, orderly, procedural, impersonal, austere, all are equal participants under the law.
|General Effect on Friendship Networks|| Thula lagna has very few close friends and a wide circle of admirers . |
if rogesha-6 in 11:
Naturally Professor Guru cannot make irreparable trouble but Brihaspati as rogesha-6 may encourage the presence of philosophers of crime such as those who promote lying and promise-breaking as proper methods of expressing social discontent. Although those whose religious beliefs protect covert practices of oppression, slavery, exploitation, and harm can be found within Thula's network if rogesha-6 Guru is also there.
"you are born to do some special work for society .
You are strongly motivated to contribute significantly to your people.
You are not selfish, though you may not necessarily be soft and kind, either.
You are a strict disciplinarian;
you can subject yourself to austere religious observances or wage cruel wars,
You want to make the world a better place to live, a more unified social organization,
Das / Behari comment on" The Sun is in 11, and the Sun is in Leo."
"When the Sun occupies this sign the missionary spirit is greatly heightened.
You can forge strong bonds of friendship with a few persons, but you are generally reserved, with a very exclusive sense of individuality.
You become interested in life sciences;
your fascination with occultism will also be deep and genuine.
As an executive officer, political missionary, or eminent philosopher , you can make an imprint wherever you go.
Your personal life, however, is full of deprivations.
You are unhappy with your children, and often suffer from serious strain on your nerves ."
|Das / Behari comment on" The Sun is in Leo, and Libra is in 1."|| |
"This placement gives fortune and a full span of life."
12th from Thula lagna = 12th from Thula Chandra = 12th from Thula navamsha
Kanya governs the character of reflective, imaginative knowledge + one's capacity to travel the bridge between worlds of material and spiritual life
Because Budha = dharmesha-9 +ruler-of-12 from-lagna, Thula natives especially like to communicate about religious liturgy and moral teachings (9) and to articulate matters of psycho-intuitive knowledge, the imagination, dream-worlds, and the subconscious terrain (12).
A quick study;
swift and accurate psychological profiling of personalities; can almost "hear" the interior mental narrative of others
Budha grants a mentalized and conversational approach to the cosmic matters of private imagination, foreign sojourns, and meditation.
Easy travels. Native does not need as much sleep as peers.
A capable instructor and explainer of the phenomena of subconscious life, although the mentality is highly activated : majority of the attention is focused on surface consciousness.
For this reason:
an excellent position for negotiators and diplomats
who are able to speedily, verbally, assure and assuage the unacknowledged psychological resistance which people often bring into controversial or adversarial situations.
Das / Behari : commentary upon Kanya = bhava-12:
"You feel a sense of responsibility which affects your everyday life.
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