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Herbert Hoover signature

1929-1933 * POTUS-31

Great Depression

1921-1928 * USA Secretary of Commerce

co-author of 30 books

expert in mining and metallurgy

Herbert Hoover (Huber)

a.k.a. Herbert Clark Hoover

Earth-birth Tuesday-10-Aug-1874

dematerialization 20-Oct-1964 (age 90)



1929-1933 * POTUS-31-partner

1917-1944 * National Leader of Girl Scouts

author of 30+ books

Lou Henry Hoover

Earth-birth Sunday-29-Mar-1874

dematerialization 07-Jan-1944 (age 69)

nativity of Lou Henry Hoover

POTUS-31 = 1929 until 1933 * mining engineer + writer * Herbert Hoover * 1874-1964

birthdata from * tentatively rectified by BP Lama Jyotishavidya

charts + graphs + tables = produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Rising Nakshatra

Masculine Nativities


Tisya * Poosam * Pushyami * Paukshakya *Vutkrita * Barhaspatya * Indrapurohita * Avra

BPL commentary

For Pushyami births of a masculine valence, the influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural sober serious systematic Shani can considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the Shani-ruled paradigm of Vutkrita, elder persons, old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems, and corporate or institutional officials may be especially influential.

Instructional guidance is provided from the civilizations of Asellus. Their purpose is the lawful, hierarchically ordered maintenance of the customary folk habits in the place of settlement.

Laws and Customs

Shani-ruled Pushyami gentlemen are often found at the director level of government, corporate, and institutional organizations. They combine the local sensibilities of security-seeking Chandra with the larger structural, legal frameworks of national and international regulation. Deeply patriotic and defensive by nature, Sidhya-born usually remain close to their roots while they obtain respected, socially recognized positions in institutions, bureaucracies, and agencies of government.

Sidhya-born are influential in the world and reputed for their culturally sensitive judgment. Found in all of the Chandra-karaka areas such as transportation, farming and fishing, home-building and real-estate, schools, houses of worship, and parenting, Tishya-born feel close to the land. Yet, they are socially responsible, and usually elect to serve as judges, directors, or other official roles (Shani) that provide an orderly process (Shani) for governance of their place of settlement.

Pushyami may specialize in cultural boundary-protection, making of reserved areas both social and natural, lawful preservation of ethnic practices, and legal recognition for cultural minorities. Tisya fellows are particularly dedicated to environmental protection, land ownership, and property rights.

Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Pushya-Sidhya.

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.

"An earnest, thoughtful character,

intelligent and quite religious in his outlook.

  • Quite often a regular attendant at church services

  • and a supporter of church and religious activities.

Withal, he is possessed of the qualities which make for success in the material world,

and has the ability to rise in position

  • and to command the respect of his associates.

He will fill a position of executive requirements

  • and be admired and respected by his immediate family."



Hoover age 23 Perth, Australia, in the mining fields

"Usually cast as a President defined by his failure to contain the Great Depression, Hoover's story is far more complex and more interesting.

To begin with, Hoover was an activist reformer, albeit one without the political skills needed to sell himself and his programs to Congress and the public.

A shy man, he insisted on keeping much of his life and good deeds out of the public eye. Only in politics is this a character flaw, Yet, it prevented those around Hoover from portraying him as a compassionate leader, or warding off portrayals of him as a cold, uncaring figure responsible for nearly everything that was going wrong in the American economy.

As a result, Hoover's presidency remains largely an untold story.

It began when Calvin Coolidge chose not to run for a second term in 1928. Hoover, then secretary of commerce (and joked Washington wags, "assistant secretary of everything else") made no secret of his interest in succeeding Coolidge.

Few men seemed so prepared for the nation's highest office.

After all, he had fed Belgium, run the U.S. Food Administration for Woodrow Wilson, revolutionized the Department of Commerce, and ministered to victims of the Mississippi River flood.

More realistic than Woodrow Wilson, more respectable than Warren Harding, more imaginative than Calvin Coolidge, Hoover appeared an ideal candidate.

Few Americans asked whether the Great Engineer had a political temperament."

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar

Shani Mahadasha * age birth until age 17.8

10-Aug-1874 Earth-birth in West Branch, Iowa, USA * Shani-Shani svabhukti

1880 (HCH age 6) grieved decease of father * Shani-Ketu bhukti

winter 1884 (HCH age 9) grieved the decease of mother * Shani-Surya bhukti * Surya rules 2nd-from-Chandra

Budha Mahadasha * age 17.8 until age 34.8

1895 (HCH age 21) earned bachelor's diploma in geology, from the newly established Stanford University College * Budha-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 4-diploma

1897 (HCH age 23) travels to Australia for mining work, involving harsh conditions and high remuneration * Budha-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 11-income, revenues

10-Feb-1899 (HCH age 25) exchange marriage vows with Lou Henry Hoover * Budha-Surya bhukti * Surya rules Simha Svamsha * gochara R-K Dhanuzya-Mithunaya * contact navamsha R-K

1901 elected partner in Berwicke Moering Co. * Budha-Mangala bhukti * Mangala rules Rahu-10-executive

04-Aug-1903 (HCH age 29) celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Budha-Rahu bhukti

Shani Ashtamsha Kumbha Feb-1905 until Apr-1907

1908 independent global mining consultant, specialist in financial and technical rescue of failing mines * Budha-Shani bhukti * Shani-7 consultancy

Ketu Mahadasha * age 34.8 until age 43.8

1909 (HCH age 35) published the most popular of his 30 books, De Re Metallica * translated as Principles of Mining. It became the leading university metals-mining textbook for several generations afterward.

Most if not all of the work was probably done by his writer-translator wife, Lou Henry Hoover * Ketu-Ketu bhukti * Ketu gives effect of Zukra-3 many books written by the wife-figure

Zukra Mahadasha * age 43.8 until age 63.8

Aug-1916 until Sep-1918 Janma Sade-Sati Karkata

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 (HCH age 47) US Secretary of Commerce * Zukra-Chandra until Zukra-Guru * Chandra lagnesha

Tues-06-Nov-1928 (HCH age 54) wins election to POTUS-31 * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Guru rules 9-fortune in elections

29-Oct-1929 (HCH age 55) Black Tuesday stock market crash begins The Great Depression* Zukra-Shani bhukti * Shani rules 8-catastrophe * Shani-return

Tues-08-Nov-1932 (HCH age 57) dramatically loses bid for re-election in a landslide vote favoring Hoover's ideological opponent POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt * Zukra-Budha bhukti ++ gochara Shani return to 7 ++ gochara Rahu return to 10

Shani Ashtamsha Kumbha Mar-1934 until Mar-1937

1934 (HCH age 59) publication of the popular book, The Challenge to Liberty * co-written with Lou Henry Hoover * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha publications

Surya Mahadasha * age 63.8 until age 69.8

1942 (HCH age 69) published America s First Crusade * Surya-Zukra bhukti * Zukra-3 written by Lou Henry Hoover

Chandra Mahadasha * age 69.8 until age 79.8

07-Jan-1944 (HCH age 70) grieved the decease of his wife, Lou Henry Hoover * Chandra-Rahu bhukti ++ Sade-Sati

Sep-1945 until Jul-1948 Janma Sade-Sati Karkata

Mangala Mahadasha * age 79.8 until age 86.8

Rahu Mahadasha * age 86.8 until decease age 90

20-Oct-1964 (HCH age 90) dematerialization * Rahu-Shani bhukti * maraka Shani rules-7

Intensive cluster of graha in tanusthana-1 focuses the personality into activities of bhava 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 10 + 12. He was a busy man, always moving (Kuja) always decision-making (Surya) always considering the needs of the common folk (Chandra) and always talking (Budha).

What happened to The Great Engineer?

Hoover is generally ranked among the worst-performing presidents by historians and economists. Any of the general public old enough to remember or have heard stories of the Great Depression tend to disparage his name. The primary complaint = he did not act when there was still time to act.

Nichha-Zukra mahadasha + Shani bhukti apparently paralyzed him. Shani does not act. Shani resists action.

The second complaint = despite his widely documented 3xecutive abilities, a resentful blaming Hoover declined to accept any governance roles under POTUS-32 or POTUS-33. Thus, a highly able leader stubbornly refused to help a nation in need during nearly 20 years of self-exile. at the peak of his capabilities.

The third complaint = Hoover became a rogue broadcaster promoting the Nazi regime of Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler as an effective tool against communism while relentlessly attacking POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Hoover might have suffered from Borderline personality disorder associated with the tragic early deaths of his parents.


Herbert Hoover and his family, 1930's California

Distinctive features of the Nativity:

Surya * pitri-karaka (father) * jyoti-karaka (light)


  • Surya-Karkata * Bhanu * ray of light * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the nourishing caretaking rashi of Chandra
  • Surya in bhava-1 * center of identity * bright embodiment * intelligence for competition * focus on appearance * genius for innovative self-expression * athletic entitlements * eye on personality * sparkling center of body-based vitality * father may be an icon-competitor-inventor
  • Surya-yuti-Chandra * confidently sensitive * bright comforter * entitled to express emotion * radiantly rhythmic * creatively intelligent mother * * sensitive to the spiritual rays of the Sun * parents are culturally aligned * patriotic father
  • Surya-yuti-Kuja * confidently progressive * bright warrior * moves in alignment with the spiritual rays of the Sun * creatively intelligent brother-figures * self-reflexive political pursuits * champion of brilliant ideals * competitive father-figure * entitled to conquer * focused on winning * radiantly pioneering
  • Surya-yuti-Budha * confidently conversational * bright messenger * entitled to discuss * creatively intelligent sibling-cohort * discursive father-figure * gestures conduct the spiritual rays of the Sun * radiantly descriptive * articulate in drama * skillful game-player * self-confident announcements * talks about ideals * narrative of power-politics * recites love poems * describes divine romance


Dad = farmer Surya-Karkata + blacksmith

Surya-1 mutual aspect with Shani-7

Surya radiates in Karkata-1caretaking yet constrained by an almost equally strong Shani-Makara-7 = legal limits, governance, bureaucracy. This same Shani opposes his Chandra in Pushya-Sidhya = deeply loyal and governing mate.

Surya occupies Karkata-1 ++ Budha-yuti-Surya ++ Surya-yuti-Mangala ++ Surya-yuti-Chandra. Intense focus (Surya) upon finance and banking (2)

Sparkling Surya accepts the elegantly structuring, disciplining, conventionalizing 7th drishti from Surya's arch-enemy soberly serious Shani-7

Chandra * matrikaraka (mother) * garha-karaka (village)

lagnesha for Karkata radical lagna

  • Chandra-Karkata * comforted by maternal soothing * settled into tidal rhythms * needs to protect
  • Chandra in Pushya-Sidhya * soothed by lawful customs * protectors of the ethno-social structure * needs dignified orderly habits
  • Chandra in classroom-1 * comfort in glowing incandescent embodiment * familiar with kinetic energy * feels the beating pulse of muscular movement * accustomed to body-based emotional response * needs the energy flow of active pursuit * feels like a pioneer * soothed by championship * sensitive to new birth * seeks calming routine activities * undulating personality
  • Somana-yuti-Surya * Emotionally entitled * sensitive to fatherly folk * needs sparkling centrality * sentimentally romantic * creative mother * comforted by confidence * undulating intelligence * soothed by attention * calmed by applause * feels like royalty
  • Somana-yuti-Kuja * Emotionally pro-active * sensitive to brotherly figures * needs to win * comforted by direct forward movement * invigorates the undulating routine * soothed by pioneering innovation * competitive mother * calmed by routine exercise * feels like a champion
  • Somana-yuti-Budha * Emotionally communicative * sensitive to sibling figures * sheltered by workmates * calmed by a chatty cohort * talkative mother * needs to evangelize * makes empathetic gestures * soothed by conversation * feels like a messenger


MARRIAGE relationships support expectations


Chandra-1 mutual aspect to Shani-7

Hoover would have been a challenging marriage partner due to the complex of graha near Chandra, represented inter alia the early emotional wounding of his parent's premature deaths. His disciplined, steady, sober, and mature wife is represented by Shani-Makara-7

Chandra-Karkata = patriotic and parental. Yet, the personal attachment to security and comfort may be constrained by regulating, contract-bound Makara Shani's overarching concern for the social law and social order.

Shani-Makara in 7th-from-Chandra represents Hoover's primary advisers, including his remarkable wife Lou Henry, who were generally conservative in their counsel.

Also bhava-5 represents the redoubtable Lou Henry Hoover = 3rd-from-3rd publications. Hoover himself has no graha in bhava-3 Yet, he is purportedly the author of more than 30 books including detailed translations from other languages. With his Ketu-2 is rather unlikely that he would have dedicated the time needed to produce painstaking translations. It is more likely that the majority author of most of his literary works is actually Mrs. Hoover.

Kuja * bhratru-karaka (brother) * virya-karaka (virile)

Yogakaraka nichha-Mangala-Karkata-1 rules 5-intelligrnce, creativity, celebrity ++ 10 social visibility, respect, reputation, leadership

  • Mangala-Karkata * nichha * active pursuit of security * proactive nourishment * drive toward rooting + settling * vigorous defensive movement * police protector * fence-builder * push toward land ownership * promotes construction of settlements * innovative farming + fishing * energetically ethnic * champion of local cultures
  • Mangala in bhava-1 * forward fighter * muscular champion * competitive winner * drive toward performance vitality * embodied action * primal sexuality * pursuit of progress * direct movement * physical engineering * thrusting vigor * dominating personality * pushy * dynamic innovator * energized conquests * athletic body
  • Kuja-yuti-Surya * kinetic creativity * glorious innovator * high-energy confidence * dynamic genius * dominating force joins willful charm * competitive politics * brilliant winner * physically active father-figure * vigorous theatrical display
  • Kuja-yuti-Chandra * invigorated feelings * energized intuition * dynamic nurturance * competitive caretaking * often the dominant parent * needs to win * forward thrusting emotions * seeks security via conquest
  • Kuja-yuti-Budha * proactive communications * energized signaling * dynamic reporting * clipped speech patterns * abrupt announcements * champion of vigorous messaging * pushes toward direct commands * forward thrusting gestures * incisive speech * forceful writing

ashtagata-dosha Mangala suffers weakness caused by brilliant intelligent solipsistic Surya * solar burn within the range of 0-17 degrees from Surya makes Mangala somewhat crispy

Pushya-Mangala-mutual aspect to change-resistant Shravana-Shani. Mangala is prevented from moving forward as quickly as desired. Lawful restraint.

Mangala ruler of 8 and 8th-from-8 is a notoriously challenging agent for the Kanya nativity. Hoover's Kuja is not only nichha, but also Kuja is paired with hostile Budha.

Kuja is also suffering the ashtagata-dosha so that Kuja's outgoing energy rays are crippled by the self-righteous forces of politics and drama (burned by Surya).

Before 1929, Hoover enjoyed 20 smooth years of Zukra Mahadasha. Involved in high-profile programs like food distribution in war-torn Europe, Hoover was very busy, very visible, and due to his investments in international mining operations, also very wealthy. He was known as The Great Engineer. His reputation, crafted by political spinners but also based in a solid record of measurable achievements, was framed as a career of bold innovation and exploration (Mangala) mixed with business skill (Budha) patriotism (Chandra) and alpha-male leadership (Surya).

Rahu-8 in 10th-from the Karkata-11 complex provides the ambition albeit Rahu is controlled by Mangala and Mangala is nichha.

Mahadasha of Azlesa-Surya expresses nichha Kuja rules 3-8 and Rahu-8. The upheaval was violent and bitter.

At his age 56, during Surya-Mangala-nichha bhukti, gochara Rahu transited into Meza-8, signaling the Rahu-Return craving for emergencies and upheaval. The Great Depression had started with apparently no warning and the nation was suddenly gripped by uncontrollable terror of starvation and social collapse.

Surya rules 12-invisibility. Kuja rules 8 and 8th-from-8. Shani rules 6. The Surya-Surya, Surya-Mangala, and Surya-Rahu bhukti were the worst. While many called for aggressive economic interventions, Hoover took sanctuary (12). Surya Mahadasha 1930-1936 was was lethargic (12, sleep). As gochara Shani moved into Makara-5 in Apr-1931 (Shani-5 stiff resistance to political charm) the nation went from boom to bust .

Delayed Action while Rahu-8 churns

The markets swung up and down, recovering somewhat in early 1930 only to crash again, with worldwide financial depression evident by the lowest part of the collapse in June 1932 during Surya-Rahu.

Folks were overcome with despair. During Surya-Kuja and Surya-Rahu, Hooverville slums full of destitute unemployed arose near every town and city.

In the eyes of many, Hoover bore personal responsibility for the spiraling economic (11) crisis of the Great Depression and the colossal scale of misery that it brought. He was blamed and accused - nichha-Mangala, nichha-Zukra.

Even after he lost re-election, Hoover retaliated twith a seven-year volley of vitriolic attack upon the policies and character of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal safety-net program. Rather than admit the scope of the problem and suggest solutions, Hoover criticized, complained, and defended his failed actions while aggressively defaming the New Deal domestic antipoverty aid programs as socialist and communist in motive. Formerly a shining star, The Great Engineer was ostracized from government for seven years.

Chandra-Surya-Budha also afflicted by the contrariwise nichha-Kuja ruling Mix-Master Rahu-8 and broadcast 8th-from-8th

Surya mahadasha transitioned into Chandra Mahadasha in 1936 when Hoover was still a young 62. A man of striking organizational ability who could have been an elite leader during the economic recovery deployment and subsequent buildup to WW-2, Hoover was instead a man-without-portfolio in the USA government during 1932-1939. He was granted no authority. When invited to advise working committees, he refused.

Instead, under influence of the nichha-combust-randhresha Kuja, and Surya ruling 12 foreign lands, Hoover traveled to Germany independently, socialized with Germany-Nazi 1889-1945 ny-Nazi 1889-1945 Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler and his colleagues, and broadcast forceful radio speeches claiming that the Nazi regime and the Stalinist regime should fight it out between themselves. USA intervention in Europe's problem (including the holocaust atrocities) was in Hoover's view unjustified. Any USA alliance with Russ-Soviet 1878-1953 Man-of-Steel Josef Stalin would open the floodgates, spilling the demonic horrors of anti-democratic communism throughout the world.

Considered a pariah by all but a few ideological devotees, Hoover had minimal subscribers during his Chandra Mahadasha (age 62-72). However, his anti-Stalinism crusade was better supported during his Mangala Mahadasha age 73-80. By the onset of Rahu Mahadasha in 1953, anti-communist rhetoric had become a standard of American politics, his public image as a defender of the American Way of Life was somewhat rehabilitated

Famous for his lifelong commitment to children.

putra-pati = Yogakaraka Kuja-1 + parental Chandra-Karkata

Budha * jamayah-karaka (sibling) * sandeza-karaka (message) * zisya-karaka (student)

  • Budha-Karkata * comfortable communications * hand-arm-shoulders make protective gestures * rhythmic articulation of root culture * discusses ancestral morality * prescriptive routines * argues for foundational stability * describes protective fencing * parochial talk * converses about caretaking * environmental wardens * issues customary pronouncements * delivers land-use information * patriotic declarations * habitually chats about the local settlement
  • Budha in bhava-1 * digbala * narrative of body * bifurcated self-image * discusses physical appearance * describer of embodiment * explainer of tangible self * delivers instructions for self-characterization * articulation of communicative movement * animated gestures * talks about personality * details the two-sided identity.
  • Budha-yuti-Surya * amusing explanations * entertaining chatter * central roles in communication * brightly clear descriptions * dramatic enunciation * confidently delivers instruction * articulation of radiant certainty * political messenger * talkative father-figures
  • Budha-yuti-Chandra * explainer of feelings * mentalized caretaking * communicative parenting * familiar rhythmic phrasing * ancestral instruction * writes sensitive speeches + songs * soothed by scheduling * needs to plan * describes the comfortable routines * responsive siblings * intuitively talkative mother
  • Budha-yuti-Mangala * competitive communications * scripted actions * impatient conversations * potential for sexualized messaging * penetrating explanations * direct instruction * signals forward action * pioneering movement * outspoken opinions * talkative brother-figures * nichha

Budha-mutual aspect to Shani

Kanya-lagna = the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra and 3rd-from Budha. Hoover was a master manager, skilled in book-writing, business planning, team-work, meetings, and frequent travels. Indicates journalism, historical and technical writings. Hoover published more than 30 books.

Hoover was a genius of management and supply-chain logistics. He could and did efficiently move billions of tons of food, tens of thousands of low-wage workers, and countless shipments of mining materials around the world.

Service Orientation of Kanya lagna expressed via Budha-11-systems

Hoover's relief efforts during the era of World War I attracted national attention. The helpless, bereaved, abandoned people (Kanya) could count on his aid, though others had not always aided him.

Guru * dhava-karaka (husband) * bahuta-karaka (variety)

  • Guru-Kanya * much ministry of service * many servants * numerous employees * indoctrination of laborers * much logical argumentation * conflicted guidance * permission to help * generously assists many victims * optimistic about medication * believes in aid * doctrine of benevolent humility
  • Guru in bhava-1 * dig-bala * much vitality * philosophical personality * permission for unrestricted action * generous disposition * numerous identities * expands the scope of competition * many cheerful sporting activities * believes in birthright * expansive aura * extra height-or-girth * embodiment of tolerant cheer * a patron of personal benefit * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be an expander-philanthropist-benefactor
  • Guru-yuti-Zukra sodarya-karaka * multiple feminine-figures * permission to make deals * abundant pleasures * blossoming treasures * expansion of art * inspirational music * optimistic diplomatic philosophy * large-scale alignments * broad scope of partnerships * diverse financial arrangements * nichha

The Great Engineer was a large-systems thinker, planner, operationalizer

passionate believer in laissez-faire economic theory

Brihaspati-yuti-Zukra in the emotionally talkative, communicative cohort evangelical instructional team-working administrative managerial announcing publishing reporting explanatory conversational lyrical messaging 3rd-from-Chandra * Hoover co-authored more than 30 books with his wife Lou Henry Hoover. Modern historians suspect that Lou did most of the writing, but Herbert Hoover was almost as well-known for his publications as he was for holding leadership roles.

Guru rogesha-6 from Karkata Chandra signals emotional conflict

Zukra * svadu-karaka (sweet) * kalatra-karaka (wife)

  • Zukra-Kanya * nichha * appreciation of service ministries * likes logical argument * attracted to subordinates * delighted by animals * accepts unbalanced agreements * prefers exploitable partners * pleased by pain relief * enjoys humility * graciously accommodates unfair contracts * sweet alliance with victims * aesthetic of remedies for injustice
  • Zukra-3 * seeks pleasure via communications * talks about relationships * sweetens the administrative tasks * pleasant style of messaging * enjoys commercial harmony * satisfied by literacy * balanced numeracy skills * prefers collaborative teamwork * aesthetically phrased announcements * appreciation of conversation * nice designs to adorn the ears * attractive shoulders * lovely arms * graceful hands * chatty sisters- aunts-neighbors * attuned to the cohort * likes musical groups * fair-and-balanced management
  • Zukra-yuti-Guru * sweetened expansions * gracious diversity * appreciation for philosophical doctrine * adjustable catechism * numerous negotiations * humanistic agreements * generous beauty * balanced patronage * arrangements according to priestly paradigm of belief * prefers relationships with generous partners

Co-authored with his capable wife Lou Hoover , he wrote a standard academic-professional text on mining = Zukra-yuti-Guru = Kanya-lagna = 3rd-from-Budha

Zukra-1 rules the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra

Herbert Hoover enjoyed the help of his elder brother Theodore throughout life especially in developing the zinc recovery process. close emotional relationship and fleshly resemblance (Zukra-1) between Herbert Hoover and his elder brother.

Zukra rules 10-Reputation, Recognition

During Zukra mahadasha age 36-56, due partly to the extreme reticence of a grieving and dysfunctional POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge, Mr. Hoover becomes the most visible man in Government

He was an iconic, socially admired figure representing the very best of his citizen class: scientifically educated, financially successful, and dedicated to better government through application of tested, innovative processes.

Super-Manager * all tasks accepted * meetings * teams

Guru-yuti-Zukra located in the managing, organizing, documenting, process-oriented 3rd-from-Chandra

Mar-1921 until Aug-1928 * Zukra-Guru bhukti until Zukra-Budha bhukti * age 46-52 mid-career

  • USA Secretary of Commerce. Newspaper wags referred to Hoover as Secy of Commerce and Assistant Secy of Everything Else.
Nov-1928 elected POTUS-31 * Zukra-Budha bhukti

Public Powerhouse Budha

Professor Budha lagnesha karmesha rules 10th navamsha containing Rahu-yuti-Shani and Rahu occupies the emotionally dignified , social-ordering, leadership-seeking; 10th-from-Chandraa.

Hoover had built up a tremendous reputation for successful management of large operations, and in the Nov-1928 election he enjoyed a massive landslide win. Perceived as the very icon of farm values, hands-on management, and moral integrity, Hoover started office in March, 1929.

In a time of flaunting luxury, ostentatious displays of wealth, and notorious lifestyle excess of the 'rentier' class, Hoover was elected on a platform of reducing government waste. The political evangelists proclaimed his proven ability to handle large-scale life sustenance.

Having brought food, clothing, and shelter (Chandra) to starving Europeans devastated by World-War-1, and having operated several highly profitable international businesses, Hoover seemed (Chandra, intuitions) able to fix America's ongoing poverty problems.

Zukra has plusses and minuses. In lagna, nichha Zukra benefits the personal wealth and grants a genetically pale complexion. Kendra-adhi-pati Guru brings large-scale (Guru) problems (Kanya) with wealth-treasuries in the forms of banking (2) and ideology (9).

Black Tuesday terrible stock market crash of Oct * Zukra-Ketu chidradasha

Less than eight months after he took office in March-1929, Black Tuesday struck and the Great Depression started. Faced with the huge scope (Guru) of the poverty and debt Guru-Kanya in the context of widespread (Guru) financial disaster Zukra-Kanya, Hoover in the most exhausted of all Ketu-bhukti -- the chidradasha of Zukra mahadasha - DID NOTHING.

Shani * duro-karaka (endurance) * jara-karaka (years)

Shasaya Yoga

  • Shani-Makara-Draco * heavy old institutions * obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked hierarchies * strict regimes * pressure to complete socially required duties * structural compression upon knees-calves-skeleton * strictly imposed protocols * must normalize old rules * unyielding pressure of public judgment * class-conscious elders * punitive regulators * must endure proletarian manners * must continue to work * scarce building resources
  • Shani in Bhava-7 * digbala * (beneficial placement) * enduring partnerships * heavy vows * must balance-and-rebalance * lawfull relationships * tense bargaining * grim determination to maintain the contract * chronic marital responsibilities * compression of the visible genitalia * pressured bargaining * negotiation fatigue * unyielding alliances * slow-moving advisors * resists new arrangements * elders maintain respected old promises


Disciplined complex personality

mutual aspect between Shani-7-Makara and Surya-Chandra-Mangala-Budha-1

Shani-7 resists change in agreements * Marriage loyalty

Stubborn and lacked negotiation skills. Refused to admit that the financial manipulators had acted illegally. Shani also rules-Kumbha 8 making Hoover beholden to undisclosed parties in the economic system.

Shani in 7th-from-Chandra indicates loyalty between the spousal parties.

Shani Mahadasha * age birth until 17.8

Hated large inheritances. Shani-7 rules 8

Hoover was successful as a businessman-engineer but he encountered rigid obstacles as a politician (5)

Writing and Publication

Shani strong ruler of 3rd-from-3rd. Herbert Hoover wrote and published dozens of books in policy policy, governance, economics and mining. A few are still used in college courses today. Mrs. Lou Henry Hoover was a capable writer and translator (her chandra-3). She likely did most of the work on Hoover's earlier books. Shani in 7th-from-Chandra wife.

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Meza-Arya * shimmering illusion of championship * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of first-arrival pioneer * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary birth * extravagant muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of heroic action * seeks privilege via innovator-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-8 * passion for mystery * in svabhava of Competitive Kuja, the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous veiling * surreptitious recycling * exciting rebirth * fascinating self-reinvention * surgical rejuvenation * outsider who cleverly insinuates into revelatory roles * desires an important role in trauma-healing * fabulous transformations * reveals occult truths * shocking discovery of confidential information * mixed-culture revolutionary * finds opportunity in catastrophe * magical masquerade * poses as a secretary (secret-keeper) of a powerful entity * risk-rewarding in-laws * irregular inheritance * unusual alimonies * boundary-breeching disclosure * camouflage of undisclosed assets * stimulated by dangerous emergencies * may appear as a tantric initiator * alluring identity changes * pursues social mobility via hidden empowerments

Rahu-Mesha mining ruled by yogakaraka-nichha-Kuja-1

Rahu in 10th-from-Chandra indicates potential for governance and executive authority during Rahu bhukti

Rahu occupies 11th navamsha yuti Shani suggesting a deep focus on revenues, earnings

The stock market crash of 1929 and the sudden impoverishment of millions of Americans happened under Hoover's watch. Curiously, his own financial standing was not afflicted by the Great Depression.

Hoover's later dislike of large inheritances also suggests the experience of being left on his own.

Rahu-8 exotic

Hoover made his fortune outside the US where he was a unique and fascinating figure. Likely he was more familiar with the "ex-pat" artificially dramatized "trickster" version of the American ex-pat engineer and explorer (Kuja). His own people (genetics- 2) rather bewildered him.

Rahu-8 non-disclosure

Hoover demonstrated dramatic and much-praised success for his "can-do" (Rahu-Mesha doing, doer) innovative and dynamic approach to feeding the war victims. His method was not transparent (Rahu-8 secrets) and he would not discuss what would be done but he was willing to explain what had been done (Shani).

Rahu-Shani in 10th navamsha finds opportunity in leadership roles

Hoover's specialty in leadership was management and communications (Mithunaya 10th navamsha). He was an instructor, describer, explainer. He easily gained institutional authority and public responsibility.

Ketu * * kavandha-karaka (headless) * chidra-karaka (gaping) * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Thula * justly dissociates from negotiation * wanders away from compromise * eccentric alliances * abandons agreements * apathetic trades * surrenders trust * ignores restriction on match-making * releases a pale pastel cloud of fair deals into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-4 * ambivalent toward the cultural foundations * absentee mother-figure * disregards local customs * dissolved property boundaries * wanders from the ancestral home * often away * ignores conventional schooling * irrelevance of habitual folkways * surrenders nationality * dismisses the parents * abandons the established routines * may prefer to live free from fixed roots


Nichha-Kuja drishti into Ketu-2

Ketu in bhava-2 tends to dissolve the family lineage r and disperse the historic, genetic values in favor of the radical new beginnings of Rahu-Mesha-8.

HH's parents died during his childhood. HH wandered through the homes of relatives, but never stayed in one family for long. As an adult he was a peripatetic figure.

Historians generally judge HH to have failed miserably in his responsibility to protect the US economy.

Despite the previous show of charity and compassion for European war victims, HH essentially ignored the suffering of the American masses, asserted that Americans needed to call upon their own resources without relying on the government, and blamed the victim Zukra-Kanya insinuating that Americans were weak and complaining.


POTUS-31-pair = 1928 until 1932 * National Director of Girl Scouts * Lou Henry Hoover * 1874-1944

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Lou Henry Hoover

Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativities


Purnavasi * Vutvrta * Jamitra

BPL commentary

For Saptarishi births of a feminine valence, the condition of prosperous, preaching, inclusive, broad-scope, philosophical, humanistic Guru may considerably affect the outcome. Due to the definitive influence of dhava-karaka Guru, ladies born in Puna, Visaka, or Purvabhadra may find that their worldview is greatly shaped by the character of the husband.

For those born into the Brihaspati-ruled paradigm of Jamitra, teachers, preachers, professors, patrons, agents of generosity and guidance, guru-figures, ideologues, indoctrinators, theorists, know-it-alls, proselytes, philosophers, pontificators, patriarchs, pundits, pater-nosters, proponents of principled understanding, wise-ones, wizards, druids, and paradigms of belief may be especially influential..

Guidance is provided by emissaries from the realm of the Twin Gardeners called Castor-and-Pollux. Their purpose is restoration, renewal, and rehabilitation of lost knowledge..

High forehead. Punarvasu have a global perspective. The majority of Aditya-born nativities are higher dimensional Seva-wanderers who assume interpretive guidance roles.

Instructing, Explaining, Describing

Mithunaya-Dvamdva pada 1-2-3 represent Guru's rulership of 7-agreements ++ 10-leadership, while also expressing the tension between broad-view Brihaspati versus detail-oriented Bantering Budha. Pada 1-2-3 are blessed with an expansive human wisdom for evocative writing or speaking. Often excellent writers who can facilitate spiritual growth via specific explanation and description. Pada 1-2-3 are often found in the literary arts, in teaching roles, in academic advising, as travel guides, and as poets who describe the natural world.

Karkata - Kadaga-pada-4 represents Guru's rulership of 6-imbalance ++ 9-philosophy. Pada-4 also embodies the tension between global, paternalistic Guru versus local, motherly Chandra. Often these remarkable women are found in the gardening and domestic realms. Natural herbal physicians, they understand and can elicit the wisdom of the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms. Pada-4 may also emerge into the religious professions where they may grow a garden of psycho-intuitive understanding.

Although the priestly husband seeks wisdom, for Karkata-Punarvasu the husband may also be adversarial, polluted, impoverished, or ailing (due to Guru rules 6).

Themes of restoration of lost knowledge, gardening, fertility of understanding, wish fulfillment, and conceptual teaching may contextualize Aditya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Punarvasu

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde (1939) Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 93 . p 93

"... will be successful in everything she undertakes.

If she elects to have a career of her own,

  • she will become very well known and highly respected.

If she marries,

  • she will have a husband and children who adore her

  • and her domestic life will be most happy .

Her house will be orderly and well kept,

  • as she is very particular and discriminating,

  • and insists on beautiful and harmonious surroundings for herself and family.

Her health is good

  • except that she will suffer from gastric complaints

  • and must be careful in her diet."


Lou Henry Hoover, photographed by Edward Steichen for the 11-May-1929 cover of VOGUE magazine. Her age 55, Shani Return, Rahu-Zukra bhukti.

Her husband's POTUS-31 assignment had just started in March-1929, and Lou's radiant Zukra-Meena-10 yuti Surya-10 had brought her to the peak of public exposure..

Biographical events matched to the Vimshottari Dasha calendar


Lou Henry Hoover * Whitehouse Photo 10-Sep-1929

  • LHH age 55
  • 1 month before Black Tuesday
  • on this day, USA Civil Rights 1929-1968 Rev. Martin Luther King was a 5-month-old baby


10-Feb-1899 Lou Henry and Herbert Hoover marriage at the home of Lou's parents, in Monterey California. She was 25 and he was 24.

Ketu Mahadasha * age birth until age 9-months

29-Mar-1874 Earth-birth in Waterloo, Iowa, USA * Ketu-Budha bhukti * Budha lagnesha

Zukra Mahadasha * age 0.9 until age 20.9

Surya Mahadasha * age 20.9 until age 26.9

1899 bachelors degree in Geology from Stanford University College * Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha diploma

10-Feb-1899 (LHH age 25) exchanged marriage vows with POTUS-31 Challenge to Liberty 1874-1964 Herbert Hoover * Surya-Budha bhukti * Budha rules Mithunaya Svamsha * samchara R-K Dhanuzya-Mithunaya contact Mithunaya Svamsha

Chandra Mahadasha * age 26.9 until age 36.9

04-Aug-1903 celebrated the birth of child-1 Herbert Jr. * Chandra-Rahu bhukti

Mangala Mahadasha * age 36.9 until age 43.9

Sep-1918 until Nov-1920 Janma Sade-Sati Simha

Rahu Mahadasha * age 43.9 until age 61.9

24-Jun-1927 (LHH age 53) grieved the decease of mother * Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 2nd-from-Chandra

21-Jul-1928 (LHH age 54) grieved decease of father * Rahu-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 7th-from-Surya

06-Nov-1928 (LHH age 54) Herbert Hoover elected POTUS-31 * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules-5 elections

29-Oct-1929 * devastating financial collapse of USA Stock Market * Rahu-Zukra bhukti * nichha-Zukra rules 5-gambling + 12-disintegration

08-Nov-1932 * Herbert Hoover loses re-election to POTUS-31 * Rahu-Surya bhukti * Surya rules 8th-from-8th change of identity based on new instructions

Guru Mahadasha * age 61.9 until decease age 69

Shani Ashtamsha via Meena Feb-1937 until Apr-1939

07-Jan-1944 (LHH age 69) dematerialization via heart-attack * Guru-Ketu bhukti

Salient Features of the Nativity

Surya * pitri-karaka (father) * jyoti-karaka (light)

  • Surya-Meena * Bhaskara * the illuminator
  • Surya in bhava-10 * digbala * bright center of hierarchy * confidently governing * legislative intelligence * focus on social order * regulatory entitlements * political authority * brilliant career * eye on elite positions * radiant reputation * sparkling center of the leadership drama * father may be a governor-regulator-boss
  • Surya-yuti-Zukra * confidently harmonious * brightly creative bargainer * uniquely intelligent feminine-figures * entitled to pleasures * aesthetic expressions align with the spiritual rays of the Sun * financial politics * graciously creative * dramatic promises * radiantly diplomatic * self-reflexively attractive * father may be artist-broker-arranger

Chandra * matrikaraka (mother) * garha-karaka (village)

  • Chandra-Simha* comforted by creative display * settled into dramatic rhythms * needs attention
  • Chandra in Magha-Regulus * protectors of three-fires ceremony * feels the glorious magnetism * soothed by unlimited light magic

  • Chandra in classroom-3 * comfortable with the cohort * familiar with interactive communication * calmed by repetitive announcements * feels the tidal pulse of daily chat * feels sheltered in the parlor * soothed by siblings * intuitive information delivery * settled into the habits of writing * needs continuous commerce * accustomed to routine messaging * emotionally attuned to the rhythms of conversation * undulating signals * ethno-cultural gestures * intuitive handcraft

Kuja * bhratru-karaka (brother) * virya-karaka (virile)

  • Mangala-Meza * moolatrikona 0-18 deg. * vigorous pursuit of dominance * straightforward dynamic actions * competitive winner * propulsive battering weaponry * push toward conquest * pioneering vitality * hot yang-energy * thrusting force * forward-driving movement * champion of innovation
  • Mangala in bhava-11 * drive toward connectivity * competitive earnings * pursuit of profits * dynamic marketplace actions * champion of community activism * invasive networking * vigorous sporting friends * energized scientific systems * economic conquests
  • Kuja-yuti-Rahu * thrill of muscular action * competitive ambition * passion to win * fascinating physicality * compulsive drive toward heroic battle * dynamic desires * champion of culture-clash * forward thrust toward opportunity * forceful pursuit of privilege

Budha * jamayah-karaka (sibling) * sandeza-karaka (message) * zisya-karaka (student)

lagnesha for Mithunaya radical lagna

  • Budha-Kumbha * connecting communications * systematic pronouncements * articulation of social-scientific networks * descriptive inter-webbed definitions * diagrams the marketplace linkages *futuristic conversations * messages about communities * discusses economic transactions * explains social participation linkage * large-scale logic * skilled weaving * deft knitting * hands-arms-shoulders make connective gestures
  • Budha in bhava-9 * narrative of father-figure * witty guru * celebrated communicator * repeats the catechism * reiterates the doctrine * skillful grandchildren * discusses patronage * detailed articulation of worldview * explains the paradigm of belief * talks about sacred texts * examines the dharma * interprets theoretical claims * delivers quick sermons * logical investigations into philosophical truths * chatty priests * religious dialogues

Bantering Budha resides in the equable, partnering 7th-from-Chandra

Guru * dhava-karaka (husband) * bahuta-karaka (variety)

  • Guru-Kanya * much ministry of service * many servants * numerous employees * indoctrination of laborers * much logical argumentation * conflicted guidance * permission to help * generously assists many victims * optimistic about medication * believes in aid * doctrine of benevolent humility
  • Guru in bhava-4 * many local roots * growth of homes * fertile gardens * many diploma-licenses * abundant owned property * many vehicles * multiple protective caretakers * multiple mother-figures * much shipping-transport * tolerance for parochial perspectives * numerous deeds of title * a patron of environmental stewardship * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be a grower-builder-schoolteacher-miner-shipper-landowner

Zukra * svadu-karaka (sweet) * kalatra-karaka (wife)

Malavaya Yoga

  • Zukra-Meena * uttama * appreciation of music * likes fantasy * often looks beautiful * envisions harmony * prefers an imaginative partner * attracted to dreamy artists * intuitively balanced designs * sensual feet * bargains for sanctuary * enjoys symbolic clairsentience * contemplative aesthetic
  • Zukra-10 * seeks pleasure via regulated order * enjoys regulatory authority * socially prominent contractual agreements * reputation for gracious balancing * institutional finance * respects feminine-figures * harmonious governance * aesthetic of beautiful structures * appreciation of order * in a husbandly nativity, wife-figure may hold an elite social position
  • Zukra-yuti-Surya * balanced roles in drama * appreciation for political display * pleasantly charming * self-focused diplomacy * radiant bright beauty * self-reflexive bargaining * sweet entitlements * negotiating father-figure * self-directed arrangements * focus on trade exchange * solipsistic romance * idealistic contracts * enjoys the game of deal-making * prefers self-confident partners

Shani * duro-karaka (endurance) * jara-karaka (years)

  • Shani-Makara-Draco * heavy old institutions * obliged to conform to the time-clock * rigidly ranked hierarchies * strict regimes * pressure to complete socially required duties * structural compression upon knees-calves-skeleton * strictly imposed protocols * must normalize old rules * unyielding pressure of public judgment * class-conscious elders * punitive regulators * must endure proletarian manners * must continue to work * scarce building resources
  • Shani in Bhava-8 * steady time-structured transformations * must impose order upon dangerous environments * may fear the advance of inexorable change * must regenerate while maintaining the system * cautiously conventional initiations * tense renewals * resists surgery * fear of eruptions * chronic trauma patterns * pressures on the hidden mechanisms of sexual-reproduction * fears revelation of mysteries * pushback against emerging new cycles * disaster fatigue * martial law * dry rigidity limits rejuvenation * frugal in-laws * elders preserve undisclosed assets

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka (ambition) * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Meza-Arya l * shimmering illusion of championship * craving for superiority * exotic use of dominating force * mask of competitive action * mirage of first-arrival pioneer * over-reaching urgency * extraordinary birth * extravagant muscularity * mesmerizing forward movement * unusual athleticism * fascinating conquests * marvelous warriorship * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of heroic action * seeks privilege via innovator-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-11 * passion for rewards * in Roguish Rahu's svabhava co-ruled by materialistic Shani * the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via glamorous social attainments * outsider who cleverly insinuates into social-networking roles * risky marketplace gains * instrumental revenues * astounding awards * extraordinary economies * desires system linkage * * contrived assemblies * opportunistic community activism * ambitious friends * craves profitability * culturally-mixed gridworks * expedient fellowship * appears as a voluntary associate * fascinating achiever * looks like a relative of the father's people * thrillingly high earnings * boundary-breeching connections * trespasses the normal cultural limits on distribution networks
  • Rahu-yuti-Mangala * amplified competition * magnified championship * exotic pursuits * tricky innovation * opportunistic brother-warriors * fascinating (but perhaps illusory) appearance of dynamic energy * hypnotic attack * passion for engines * craves hot movement * invasive force of cross-cultural mixing

Ketu * * kavandha-karaka (headless) * chidra-karaka (gaping) * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Thula * justly dissociates from negotiation * wanders away from compromise * eccentric alliances * abandons agreements * apathetic trades * surrenders trust * ignores restriction on match-making * releases a pale pastel cloud of fair deals into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-5 * ambivalent toward ceremony * eccentric offspring * wandering eldest child * demonstrates dramatic confidence in non-existent things * apathetic toward political displays * ungrounded speculation * disregards standard intelligence * disoriented creativity * incoherent romantic ideals * disinterested in games * liberation via surrender of entitlements * unless other graha in 5 or Ketu's ruler is strong, may prefer to live free from children

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"And now my friends,

all that is true, all that is noble,

all that is just and pure,

all that is loveable and gracious,

whatever is excellent and admirable -

fill all your thoughts with these things."

~~ Epistle to the Philippians 4:8

Brihaspati-yuti-Zukra nichha is also problematic for relationships with women. Yet Guru-Zukra are holding excellent positions in navamsha-4 Meena suggesting that life-partner-1 is a person of artistic and spiritual character who may be deeply forgiving of the masculine nativity's additional interests.

Herbert Hoover was a devout Quaker in private practice and a vigorous exponent of Quaker principles in public life. Hoover worked most days of his life from morning until night. His primary expression of Quaker belief was the sober lifestyle which undergirded his extraordinary work ethic.

  • during the USA Great Depression, Shani-9 caused his downfall in the USA presidency. Rigid refusal to change his doctrinaire free-market ideology (Shani-Vrizabha = cintamani * mani * money -policies) forced him into the role of the dogmatic preacher. while economic collapse deepened and desperate poverty spread throughout the nation on an unprecedented scale, Hoover continued to preach the message of saving and self-reliance. Loud calls for government safety-net assistance to the growing underclass were ignored; hobo camps called Hoovervilles showed the contempt Americans felt for their uncaring president.

  • Hoover was wiped out by the landslide victory of POTUS-32 Fireside Chats 1882-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt . True to FDR's Shani-8, FDR immediately passed emergency laws Shani-8 using pooled funds (8, tax monies) to structure government work programs (Shani) for millions.

Hoover was a prolific author of engineering books, and considered a high academic authority in that emerging scientific field.

  • Speaking was hard for Hoover, and being before a crowd was an ordeal.
  • He seemed stiff and monotonous before big crowds, and he was shy with strangers.


  • Exceptionally wealthy via speculative investments in minerals + mining, specialist in famine avoidance and food distribution challenges.

  • Traveled constantly and extensively.

  • Mines and metallurgy; food and farming; government efficiency and volunteer organizations; Quaker morality (nichha-Zukra, quietude).

Hoover was a brilliant man, a renowned author, and a highly accomplished business entrepreneur. Nevertheless, he completely lost the public confidence . His economic policies -- based on elaborate principled arguments for the corrective effects of free markets -- did not adapt to the new fact that the economy did not self-correct during the Great Depression.

  • Would not join Stanford fraternities nor allow his sons to join any.
  • A great deal of ocean travel.
  • Extremely good at mining ventures , finding great supplies of mineral resource -- everything from gold and precious stones to coal and oil.
  • Ruler of the 10th navamsha = very strong Budha in bhava-11 systems
  • Vriddhi-pati ruler 11th from lagna = social-material relationship = Guru. Guru-yuti-Zukra = very close, expansive, abundant (but both men would have had polarizing catalysis with women due to the nichha-Zukra.)

Became a very financially privileged man, starting with the barter = move out of the Chinese coal company rights for move into a partnership in the London co.

By 1914, Hoover, operating on his own since 1907, had important investments on every continent and offices in San Francisco, London, Saint Petersburg, and Mandalay. Once he remarked that if a man "has not made a million dollars by the time he is forty he is not worth much."

Hoover was worth about $4 million at the beginning of World War I. Under both POTUS-29 Teapot Dome 1865-1923 Warren G. Harding and POTUS-30 Price of Freedom 1872-1933 Calvin Coolidge , Herbert Hoover became the most visible man in government.

public negative perception during his presidency: unsmiling square face and starched collars; general apathy and lack of connection toward the very poor, exploited classes, suffering

  • Ambivalence, apathy (Ketu-2) toward medicine, war, conflict, poverty crime (Hoovervilles) scattered attention to the very poor and exploited
  • Ambition (Rahu-12) to be recognized as an important figure in distant lands or a master of clandestine operations (cooperative of USA intelligence agencies)