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James Madison quote that is carved into marble at the Library of Congress :

  • "A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both.

  • Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."


James Madison in 1816 (age 64)


1809-1817 * POTUS-04

1801-1809 * USA Secretary of State

1793-1797 * US-Congressmember from Virginia

philosopher of law + writer of USA Constitution

legislator + emissary + diplomat

Authored 29 of the 85 Federalist Papers

slave-plantation owner

Father of the Bill of Rights

James Madison

Earth-birth Tuesday-16-March-1751

dematerialization 28-June-1836 (age 85)



1809-1817 * POTUS-partner-04

Whitehouse hostess for POTUS-03 Thomas Jefferson * 1801-1809

Editor of the James Madison Document Library

Dolley Madison

a.k.a. Dorothea "Dolley" Dandridge Payne Todd Madison

Earth-birth Friday-20-May-1768

dematerialization 12-July-1849 (age 81)

nativity of Dolley Madison


Author of first draft of USA Constitution * POTUS-04 from 1809 until 1817 * James Madison * 1751-1836

birth data from * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts + graphs + tables = produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Rising Nakshatra

Masculine Nativities

Pushya * Sidhya

BPL commentary

For Pushyami births of a masculine valence, the influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural sober serious systematic Shani can considerably affect the outcome.

For those born into the Shani-ruled paradigm of Vutkrita, elder persons, old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems, and corporate or institutional officials may be especially influential.

Instructional guidance is provided from the civilizations of Asellus. Their purpose is the lawful, hierarchically ordered maintenance of the customary folk habits in the place of settlement.

Laws and Customs

Shani-ruled Pushyami gentlemen are often found at the director level of government, corporate, and institutional organizations. They combine the local sensibilities of security-seeking Chandra with the larger structural, legal frameworks of national and international regulation. Deeply patriotic and defensive by nature, Sidhya-born usually remain close to their roots while they obtain respected, socially recognized positions in institutions, bureaucracies, and agencies of government.

Sidhya-born are influential in the world and reputed for their culturally sensitive judgment. Found in all of the Chandra-karaka areas such as transportation, farming and fishing, home-building and real-estate, schools, houses of worship, and parenting, Tishya-born feel close to the land. Yet, they are socially responsible, and usually elect to serve as judges, directors, or other official roles (Shani) that provide an orderly process (Shani) for governance of their place of settlement.

Pushyami may specialize in cultural boundary-protection, making of reserved areas both social and natural, lawful preservation of ethnic practices, and legal recognition for cultural minorities. Tisya fellows are particularly dedicated to environmental protection, land ownership, and property rights.

Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Pushya - Sidhya.

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.

"An earnest, thoughtful character,

intelligent and quite religious in his outlook.

  • Quite often a regular attendant at church services

  • and a supporter of church and religious activities.

Withal, he is possessed of the qualities which make for success in the material world,

and has the ability to rise in position

  • and to command the respect of his associates.

He will fill a position of executive requirements

  • and be admired and respected by his immediate family."


Biographical data matched to Vimshottari Dasha calendar

Earth-birth 16-Mar-1751 * fleshdeath 28-Jun-1836

Guru Mahadasha

16-Mar-1751 Earth-birth in Port Conway, Colony of Virginia, British America * Guru-Zukra bhukti * Zukra rules 4-foundations 11-economy

Shani mahadasha

23-Sep-1771 (JM age 20) earned BA diploma from College of New Jersey (now Princeton University) * Shani-Rahu bhukti * Shani rules 4th-from-4th diploma

Budha Mahadasha

Ketu Mahadasha

15-Sep-1794 (JM age 43) exchange of vows in Marriage to the widow Dolley Payne (James age 43) * Ketu-Zukra bhukti

1797 retired from politics after eight years' service in the House of Representatives * Ketu-Rahu bhukti

Zukra Mahadasha

1800 POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson asks Madison to be Secretary of State. Serves 1801-1809 * Zukra-Zukra swabhukti * Zukra rules 10th dashashamsha

27-Feb-1801 (JM age 50) grieved decease of father Jas. Madison Sr. * Zukra-Zukra swabhukti

Dec-1808 elected POTUS-04 (served 4-Mar-1809 until 3-Mar-1817) * Zukra-Rahu bhukti * Rahu-5 politics

18-June-1812 (JM age 61) USA declaration of three-way war begins the devastating War of 1812 against Britain and against many Native American tribes who allied with Britain * Zukra-Guru bhukti * Guru rogesha-6 war

1817 (JM age 66) retirement from public life, return to the Montpelier slave plantation * Zukra-Budha bhukti * Budha rules 12-retreat, sanctuary, invisibility

Surya Mahadasha

Chandra Mahadasha

1826-1836 Chancellor of the University of Virginia * Chandra-Chandra swabhukti * Chandra-4 education * Chandra lagnesha

11-Feb-1829 (JM age 78) grieved the decease of mother Nelly Rose Madison * Chandra-Rahu bhukti

28-Jun-1836 (JM age 85) dematerialization * Chandra-Surya chidradasha

Prominent Features of the Nativity

Surya * pitrikaraka * jyotikaraka

  • Surya-Meena * Bhaskara * the illuminator * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the expansively visionary rashi of Brihaspati
  • Surya in bhava-9 * karako bhavo nashto * icon of sacred teachings * intelligent patronage * bright preaching * focus on beliefs * philosophical entitlements * self-righteous dad * sanctimonious pontificator * eye on humanistic worldview * confident ideologue * sparkling center of global doctrine * father may be a politician-philosopher-preacher-professor
  • Surya-yuti-Zukra * confidently harmonious * brightly creative bargainer * uniquely intelligent feminine-figures * entitled to pleasures * aesthetic expressions align with the spiritual rays of the Sun * financial politics * graciously creative * dramatic promises * radiantly diplomatic * self-reflexively attractive * father may be artist-broker-arranger


Dad = a tobacco planter who inherited substantial slave-plantation lands then increased his holdings further, making him the largest landowner in the Piedmont of Virginia.

Chandra * matrikaraka * garha-karaka

lagnesha for Karkata radical lagna

  • Chandra-Thula * comforted by ritual negotiation of agreements
  • Chandra in Visaka-Radha * soothed by expansive shocks * protectors of widening energy channels * needs root-splitting growth surge
  • Chandra in classroom-4 * digbala * comfort in familiar routines * calmed by caretaking * seeks continuous oscillating motion * sensitive to ethnic folkways * contented by recurrent rituals * soothed by customary habits * tranquilized by rhythmic waves * needs pulsation * nurtured by gardening * follows local pathways * feels rooted into the land * settled into home-keeping * undulating patriotism


Mom was a perpetual stabilizing figure in JM's life. Mom lived to be nearly 100 years old. Mom died when James was already an elderly man, age 77. Shani-yuti-Rahu in 8th-from-4th suggests an exceptionally long life for mom.

Marriage emotional support partnership

7th from Chandra-4 = prominent spouse in leadership roles, whether overt or covert.

JM' Thula-Chandra matches Dolley's Thula radical lagna, while Dolley's Karkata-Chandra matches James' Karkata lagna.

Despite their 17-year age gap, this couple worked interactively from a shared basis of patriotic feeling (Karkata) and diplomatic skill (Thula).

A familiar (Chandra) presence in Washington D.C., Dolley did her share of decision-making -- albeit her approach was predominantly social and emotional rather than overtly intellectual. Her significant role in two, 2-term administrations (Jefferson's then Madison's) was acknowledged over a 16+ year bhukti. The average American who is not a historian may remember few specifics about the personality or achievements of James Madison. But Dolley Madison is widely remembered as the paragon of political hostesses.

Dolley as well as JM were overt-and-covert diplomats arranging deals and liaisons in the new country. Their skills were essential at a time when everyone was afraid of Britain's military power to smash the new nation and punish its colonial people (Mangala-6).

Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

Yogakaraka Mangala rules 5-intelligrnce, creativity, celebrity ++ 10 social visibility, respect, reputation, leadership

  • Mangala-Dhanuzya * vigorous development of humanistic worldview* thrust toward doctrinal expansion * proactive teaching-preaching * promotes philosophical globalism * champion of broad understanding * pursues patronage
  • Mangala in bhava-6 * drive toward confrontational quarreling * pursuit of active service * vigorous attacks against adversaries * defeats illness * overcomes injury * wins accusatory litigation * dynamic military strategy * competitive criminal vitality * aggressive medical treatments * energized conflict
  • Guru-10 parivartamsha Mangala-6

Madison adopted Dolley Payne's toddler son. This stepson was to cause ongoing social strain and financial catastrophe. Rahu + randhresha-Shani in 5 +++ Mangala putrapathi-5 occupies 6.

Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

* Vimala Yoga

  • Budha-Kumbha * connecting communications * systematic pronouncements * articulation of social-scientific networks * descriptive inter-webbed definitions * diagrams the marketplace linkages *futuristic conversations * messages about communities * discusses economic transactions * explains large-scale social participation linkage * skilled weaving + knitting * hands-arms-shoulders make connective gestures
  • Budha in bhava-8 * narrative of hidden information * mysterious facts * unexpected eruptions of factual data * shocking revelation * speaks-and-sings about dynamic rebirth * detailed discoveries * describes transformative change * explains initiation * delivers instructions for new identity * hand-arm gestures signal healing renewal

Budha rules-3-12 + Budha occupies-8 + Budha rules 9-12 from Chandra-Thula

Madison wrote widely-read, influential opinion-piece newspaper articles * under a pseudonym (8 nondisclosure)

James Madison was a notable political legal writer whose newspaper articles were deeply influential in shaping the political culture of individual entitlement, creativity, and intellectual pursuits of the newly formed United States. James Madison's political discourse was often written under an alias. Dolley was also a capable writer and editor.

Guru * dhavakaraka * bahuta-karaka

  • Guru-Meza * warrior dharma * philosophy of direct movement * many competitions * broad scope of pioneering action * permission to dominate * doctrine of conquest * invigorating guidance * expands the range of championship * believes in innovation
  • Guru in bhava-10 * many public roles * multiple diverse leadership duties * numerous recognized teachings * public theology * high visibility philosophical roles * extensive reputation * numerous obligations * often a respected preacher-teacher * public patron of enlightened social order * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be a doctrinal authority
  • Guru-10 parivartamsha Mangala-6

Expansive and inclusive Mesha-10 parivartamsha Mangala-6

Guru rules 6-9 + Guru occupies leadership-10 + Guru rules 3-6 from Chandra-Thula

Zukra * svadhu-karaka * kalatra-karaka

  • Zukra-Meena * uttama * appreciation of music * likes fantasy * often looks beautiful * visions of harmony * attracted to dreamy artists * intuitively balanced designs * sensual feet * pleasures of imagination * enjoys symbolic clairsentience * contemplative aesthetic
  • Zukra-9 * seeks pleasure via philosophical doctrine * enjoys paradigmatic beliefs * feminine-figures preach-teach on higher principles * bargains toward global equity * delights in ultimate worldview * pleasing designs to adorn the pelvic floor * graceful hips * balanced femoral sockets * sweet sacral plexus * appreciation of theory * philosophy of justice
  • Zukra-yuti-Surya * balanced roles in drama * appreciation for political display * theatrical negotiations * self-focused diplomacy * radiant bright beauty * self-reflexive bargaining * sweetly confident entitlements * enjoys games * negotiating father-figure * intelligent arrangements * focus on trade exchange * self-directed romance * idealistic contracts * match-making according to father's choice or self-will

Dhanayoga = Zukra-uttama ruler of 11 * Zukra occupies 11th-from-11th

However, Ketu-Vrishabha-11 tends to erode the marketplace profits.


Dolley became a legendary personality in Whitehouse communications and entertaining Zukra-yuti-Surya-9 providing gracious social support for her husband's career and facilitating personal relationships between members of the first generation of USA leaders.

Friendships = 11 + 11th-from-11th bhava-9

Soft-spoken and carefully reasoning Madison was the closest adviser and personal friend to the adventurous and often controversial POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson over decades of friendship between the two leaders.

Madison's independent inherited wealth was the precondition that allowed him to dedicate his time and attention to codifying and clarifying the structure of the newborn nation that was based on Enlightenment principles, drawing its precedents from British cultural foundations but indeed unlike any other country in existence. It had to be thought through. Madison did the lion's share of the thinking while Jefferson did most of the promoting. They were a team

Although it was primarily a Jefferson initiative, Madison (a Princeton graduate) assisted Jefferson with founding the University of Virginia, and Madison served nominally as Chancellor of U-Va from 1826 until his death in 1836. Zukra-9 universities.

A bachelor until age 43 on 15-Sept-1794 Ketu-Zukra bhukti James Madison married the 26-year-old widow Dolley Payne

Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

Shani rules Pushya radical lagna

  • Shani-Vrizchika * heavy old secrets * obliged to uncover the camouflaged realities * burdened by responsibility for mass transformation * must regulate the flow of occult identity changes * must explore masked trauma * must resist self-destruction * mandatory recycling * bodily stress zone = ovaries + testes + anus * imposes strict confidentiality rules * cautiously exposes hidden knowledge * must regulate the threat of disaster * at times, penetration of the mysteries requires great effort * must work with sudden eruptions * must accept the healing systems of elder shamans * respects the slow-moving cycles of proletarian revolution * scarce healing resources
  • Shani in Bhava-5 * slowly time-structured resistance to drama * responsibilities for students * must regulate financial speculation * strictly restrains glamorous entitlement * must prove individual intelligence with scarce confidence * dread of politics * frugal entertainments * mother's family often rigidly conventional * fearfully cautious in romance * bitter tension in heart-and-spine * performance fatigue * limited ability to play games * children weigh heavily * intolerant of time-wasting amusements * socially-approved dutiful use of celebrity * elders maintain creativity-constraining rules
  • Shani-yuti-Rahu * stiff social resistance to unbridled ambition * formally regulated cultural mixing * disciplined thrills * class-based limitations upon privilege * repressed quest for intriguing importance * socially constrained opportunism * shimmering illusion of systematic conformity * irregular achievements * over-reaching elders * restricted risks

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Vrizchika * shimmering illusion of mystery * craving for rebirthed identity * expedient gains from dangerous threats * extravagantly explosive hidden forces * preposterous camouflage * mesmerizing power of rejuvenation * fabulous surgeries * exotic secret initiations * mask of deep inner transformations * fascinating arcane knowledge * over-reaching intrigue * marvelous hidden liaisons * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of healing shakti * thrilling emergency intervention * seeks privilege via revelatory disclosures * amazingly shocking insights * self-promotion via exciting discovery-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-5 * passion for politics * hungry for celebrity * fascinating romance * extraordinary games * in swabhava of Splendid Surya, the Shadowy Specter seeks privilege via exceptional children (often adopted) * outsider who cleverly insinuates into center-stage creative roles * culturally mixed entertainment * amplified poetic idealism * enchanting individual charisma * flamboyant fashion * unusual autobiography * craves attention * intriguing displays of creative genius * seeks important roles in performance art * unconventional literary expression * desires royal entitlement * mesmerizing pageantry * entrancing dramatic splendor * opportunistic lovers * ambitious games-players * may wear the persona (mask) of a thespian * pretensions intellectuality * thrilling demonstrations in the eye of the camera * boundary-breeching politics
  • Rahu-yuti-Shani * amplified public formality * magnified systematics * exotic social conventions * tricky regulations * opportunistic elders * fascinating (but perhaps illusory) appearance of strictly lawful structures * hypnotic ascent to privileged rank * pragmatic cross-cultural mixing

Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Urisha * financially dissociates from collections * breaks-up compulsive acquisition * incomplete containment * dissolved treasury * disregards conventional valuations * not limited by historical knowledge * incoherent lineage * ignores restriction on speech-voice-sight * releases a rich blue cloud of hoarded goods into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-11 * eccentric friends * no limits on profitability * dissolves barriers in community * peculiar social network * vacuous associations * irrelevance of material goals * ambivalence toward economics * disappearing elder siblings * disregards social awards * ignores marketplace norms * abandons large group systems * unless other graha occupy 11, may prefer to live free from socializing = off-the-grid.

Dissipation of Revenues = Urisha (banking) Ketu in classroom-11

JM was born into considerable wealth. However, over the course of his lifetime, JM lost virtually all of his wealth by means of not paying attention to it Ketu in classroom-11. JM's risk-loving stepson (Rahu-5) nearly bankrupt him through gambling (5) and a wild lifestyle (Rahu).

JM had productive slave plantations which should have provided a continuous high income. Yet, JM disregarded the rules of planation management, and the farms lost money. A lot of money. At the time of his death, both JM and Dolley were virtually indigent.

James Madison stood five-feet, four-inches tall. Contrast to George Washington who stood over six-feet tall.

James Madison was a writer of renown. Historians like to chuckle over the memory that Madison famously "wrote George Washington's inaugural address, the House of Representatives 'congratulatory reply to the address, and Washington's response to the House's warm reply."

An Enlightenment era legal writer who was brilliantly clear and precise yet possessed of an extraordinary breadth of vision, Madison wrote the first draft of the USA Constitution. Madison wrote 29 of the 85 Federalist Papers (foundational commentaries). Madison sponsored the United States Bill of Rights. Surya-3 with vidyapathi-5 Zukra L-3-from-3 in 3 shows James Madison's remarkable ability as a writer.

He was born the eldest of 12 children, of which seven survived to adulthood. Madison attended a Virginia boarding school where he was educated in the Classics, and where his lifetime love of reading was established. Madison's father was a wealthy, slave-owning Virginia planter who arranged private tutoring for his sickly son when James was forced to leave the boarding school due to illness.

Various stress-induced illnesses including seizures dogged Madison throughout his long and productive life. Shani-yuti-Rahu forming Shapati Yoga occupies bhava-6, an excellent placement for both Shani and Rahu. Despite a delicate childhood and an adulthood punctuated by animosities and illnesses, Madison died age 85.

Before James Madison was president, Dolley also served James' best friend who was the widowed POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson as a White House hostess. Dolley provided hostessing services in lieu of Jefferson's true partner Sally Hemings. Sally was the enslaved stigmatized quadroon half-sister of Jefferson's deceased wife Martha.

Madison was born into landed wealth and well-educated. He inherited a valuable plantation from his father. However, the plantation was mismanaged in his absence while he fulfilled unpaid governance duties, and at the end of his life he feared poverty.

Madison had no children of his own but he raised Dolley's son Ketu-in bhava-5. This son became an alcoholic and a compulsive gambler Shani-Rahu-11 5th-from-7th indicates the stepson. Bailing out Dolley's son from jail and from debts was a frequent and expensive practice for Madison.

he and Dolley were introduced in the parlor (talking room) of a Philadelphia home * Z Also Zukra conjoins his Surya, showing his wife's widowed status distinctive rosacea (a potential feature of Surya-yuti-Zukra).

Uttama-Zukra yogakaraka from the Makara lagna. As indicated by Madison's prominent uttama-Zukra-Meena-3, lovely Dolley with her legendary social grace and entertaining skills was exceptionally instrumental in shaping and supporting James Madison's political career.


Like all of the Southern leaders of the new-born United States of America, James Madison was a materially wealthy man whose family had the resources to grant him an elite education and whose inherited income provided more than sufficiently for himself and his family. (Exceptions include Northerners POTUS-02 Thoughts on Government 1735-1826 John Adams and Abigail Adams and their son POTUS-06 American System 1767-1868 John Quincy Adams and Louisa Johnson Adams who earned primarily from their government salaries and law businesses.)

Mangala controls the environment of bhava-11 marketplace economy wherein ambitious Rahu-11 is constrained by lawful Shani-11. The lawfulness pressure from Shani is not a comfortable constraint for privilege-seeking Rahu but this difficult pair Shani-yuti-Rahu nevertheless produces a benefit of out-smarting (clever Rahu) and out-lasting (enduring Shani) one's "friends". Aside from Jefferson, James Madison had few close friends due to restrictions of Shani-11. Mainly he consulted with Dolley and with his extremely long-lived mother.


Instrumentalist and opportunist Professor Rahu yuti Shani-5 indicates political expediency under difficult circumstances. ,

However Shani even though a provider of material wealth has a certain downside due to His entanglement with opportunistic Rahu.

Madison's father earned lavishly Surya-yuti-uttama-Zukra from slave-operated agriculture. Aided by Vishaka-Chandra which has a tolerance for extreme shakti, Madison accepted the injustice of slavery as a bitter fact of agricultural economics in the revolutionary new nation. He was not an anti-slavery abolitionist like his colleague POTUS-06 American System 1767-1868 John Quincy Adams.


Political socialite and partner of POTUS-04 * Dolley Payne Madison * 1768 - 1849

birth data from * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts + graphs + tables = produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Dolley Payne Madison

Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativities

Visaka* Radha

BPL commentary

For Visaka births of a feminine valence, the condition of prosperous, preaching, inclusive, broad-scope, philosophical, humanistic Brihaspati may considerably affect the outcome. Due to the definitive influence of dhava-karaka Guru, ladies born in Puna, Visaka, or Purvabhadra may find that their worldview is greatly shaped by the character of the husband.

For those born into the Guru-ruled paradigm of Radhika, teachers, preachers, professors, patrons, agents of generosity and guidance, guru-figures, ideologues, indoctrinators, theorists, know-it-alls, proselytes, philosophers, pontificators, patriarchs, pundits, pater-nosters, proponents of principled understanding, wise-ones, wizards, druids, and paradigms of belief may be especially influential.

Guided by patrons from the civilizations of Saka. Their purpose is facilitation of shocking insights by lightning-strike and expansive growth by root-splitting..

High forehead. Saptarishi-ruled births come equipped with a global perspective. The majority of Visaka nativities are higher dimensional Seva-wanderers who assume guidance roles.

Growth Shocks

Thula - Vanika pada 1-2-3 expresses Saptarishi's rulership of 3-Writing-commerce + 6-service ministry or victimhood. Pada 1-2-3 also evoke the tension between Zukra's one-to-one relationships versus Guru's one-to-many preachings. Pada 1-2-3 may be experts on the subject of relationships, both seen and unseen. They have a broad understanding of the power of polarities. They are often found in advising and recommending roles (Zukra) which engage ideology or theory (Guru) such as psychotherapy, university teaching, policy consultant, or political lobby.

Although the husband is globally minded, for Thula-Visaka, the husband may also be impoverished or ailing (due to Guru rules 3-6 from Thula).

Vrischika Pada-4 emphasizes Guru's rulership of 2-treasury, collections ++ 5-creativity, entitlement, politics. Pada 4 enjoys the spirited compatibility between Guru's optimism + Kuja's kinetic action. Their husbands are charming, speculative, and affluent. Pada-4 has a broad understanding of the ultimate power of transformative beliefs. Pada-4 ladies are often found in teaching and healing work, especially when using their expertise with the sexual-reproductive energies.

Themes of shocking growth via beliefs, widening expansion via root-splitting, and fertilization via jolts of electromagnetic Shakti may contextualize Visaka's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Visaka

QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 97.

"... delicate features and a soft pleasing voice.

  • But do not let these deceive you.

Underneath she has a strong character , even hard at times.

  • She will always follow her own inclinations

  • and is not amenable to advice from others.

She will be distinctly appealing to the opposite sex

  • and will make a very fortunate marriage.

Her husband will be well-to-do if not wealthy

  • and she will have few if any children, not more than two.

She will be fond of travel and change

  • and will travel much with her husband .

Her favorite color is red or crimson.

She has beautifully shaped legs."


Dolley Madison in midlife, engraving

Biographical data matched to Vimshottari Dasha calendar

ups and downs of the Mahadasha cycle

  • Dolley had bhuktis of devastating loss from sickness and she died lonely in acute poverty. However, she also had decades of extraordinary luxury with abundant friends and lavish income.
  • The Budha-Shani chidradasha was notably challenging due to the weight of separative scarcity in material circumstances (Shani), and a sudden mandate for closure even when one may be young.
  • Mahadasha of Zukra lagnesha was supremely favorable as Zukra-7 casts drishti into kalpasthana.
  • Kuja Mahadasha and Rahu Mahadasha at the end of life were relatively challenging. Her Thula lagna receives drishti from Zukra randhresha-8 and also from Budha vyayapathi-12, insinuating and undercurrent of volatility (8) verging into extinction (12).

  • POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison served as a hostess and diplomatic agent for two POTUS men. 250 years after her death, people are still talking about Dolley's conversations (3) and letters of correspondence (3). An invitation (3) from Dolley was socially prestigious in her day. However, her skills did not translate into a financial estate, and she died in near penury.



Dolley Payne Madison painted by Rembrandt Peale in 1817 (her age 49)

Shani mahadasha * age birth until age 9

20-May-1768 Earth-birth in Greensboro, Colony of Carolina, British America * Shani-Zukra bhukti * Zukra lagnesha

Budha Mahadasha * age 9 until age 26

07-Jan-1790 exchange of vows in marriage-1 to lawyer John Todd (Dolley's age 21) * Budha-Guru bhukti * Guru rules navamsha-7.

29-Feb-1792 birth of eldest son Payne Todd * Budha-Shani bhukti * Shani putrapathi

Oct-1792 grieved decease of father * Budha-Shani chidradasha* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu

24-Oct-1793 widowed by the death of husband-1 * Budha-Shani chidradasha* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu

24-Oct-1793 death of infant son-2 * Budha-Shani chidradasha * due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu

Ketu Mahadasha * age 26 until age 33

15-Sept-1794 marriage-2 to James Madison * Ketu-Ketu swabhukti* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Ketu gives effect of Shani ++ Shani rules navamsha-2 second marriage

1797 death of her mother * Ketu-Rahu bhukti

1801 James Madison is asked by Thomas Jefferson to serve as Secretary of State. Considerable traveling (Ketu) due to this appointment, during the administration of POTUS-03. * Ketu-Budha bhukti * Budha-7 partnership rules swamsha ++ Budha dharmesha world affairs

Zukra Mahadasha * age 33 until age 53

1809-1817 James Madison serves as POTUS-04 with Dolley serving as official entertainments boss * begin Zukra-Mangala * Kuja rules bhava-7 relationships, negotiations, terms of agreement containing Zukra-yuti-Budha

Surya Mahadasha * age 53 until age 59

Chandra Mahadasha * age 59 until age 69

28-June-1836 death of James Madison (Dolley's age 68) * Chandra-Rahu bhukti

Mangala Mahadasha * age 69 until age 76

Rahu Mahadasha * age 76 until decease age 81

12-July-1849 dematerialization (age 81) * Rahu-Shani bhukti * due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu

Distinctive features of the nativity


Etching of Dolley Payne Madison in her early decades, created on the basis of a previous painting

Surya * pitrikaraka * jyotikaraka

  • Surya-Urisha * Ravaye * the noisy one, the roaring one (Ravi = firebird; Rava = howl, yell, or squawk) * brightly charismatic confidence of Center-stage Surya radiates through the acquisitive sensual rashi of Zukra
  • Surya in bhava-8 * center of revelation and emergence * intelligence for trauma healing * confident rejuvenation * brightly transformative * focus on discovery * initiatory entitlements * eye on occulted mysteries * sparkling center of the secrecy-drama * father may be hidden or disguised

Surya rules-11 ++ Surya occupies the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra

Famed socialite with a gift for keeping confidences (Surya-8 political secrets)


Dad was a prosperous southern slave-plantation owner who freed all of his slaves according to his Quaker beliefs, then moved to Philadelphia where his business collapsed leaving the family without assets.

Surya in bhava-8-Vrishabha = Dad was secretive in dealings, as Dolley by necessity also was. Surya rules economic income 11 but Surya-8 requires that the sources + connections of the revenues are not disclosed.

Dad was excommunicated from the Quaker congregation Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 (father, doctrine, sangha) and she also was ejected from that faith-community when she married slave-owner Madison.

Chandra * matrikaraka * garha-karaka

  • Chandra-Karkata * swakshetra * comforted by familiar nourishing protections
  • Chandra in Pushyami * soothed by lawful customs * protectors of the ethno-social structure * needs dignified orderly habits
  • Chandra in classroom-10 * comfortable with law-and-order * socially recognized protector * parental style of leadership * Familiar Face to the public * sensitive to social protocol * accustomed to regulations * soothed by peak position * acculturated to executive routines * settled into the rhythm of respected roles * feels the repeating pulse of elite status * calmed by climbing hierarchical steps * anchored into lawful responsibility * undulating authority

Chandra-10 is typically a well-known, familiar face and so much stronger in swakshetra

200 years after her service, Dolley Madison is still a household name in many USA homes. Yet the remarkable legal governance codifications of James Madison have been relegated to the history books for two centuries gone. Madison was publically appreciative and complimentary of Dolley as were nearly all of his colleagues


MARRIAGE partnership support expectations


  • = bhava-4 foundational support, home-keeping, parenting

At the time of their marriage, bachelor James Madison was 43 and the widow Dolley Payne was 26.

Dolley's Chandra-Karkata suggests marriage to elder persons while her 2nd-from-Chandra Becomes Simha bhava-11 which suggests that her second husband would be a philosopher-politician.

Surya ruler of her 2nd-from-Chandra resides in the emotionally associative, community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra = the intensely social community and economic networking that framed her marriage to Madison. Her uttama-Guru in 2nd-navamsha also suggests abundant benefits from the second marriage.

Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

  • Mangala-Kumbha * vigorous pursuit of community activism * warrior for economic progress * proactive linking * push toward regulated systems * pursues profitable roles * dominating energy in social networking * conquest of marketplace interactions * champion of distributed associations
  • Mangala in bhava-5 * drive toward creativity * pursuit of games * invasive drama * dynamic style of flamboyant display * competitive children * energized by romance * political conquests * productive intelligence * push toward speculative adventures

Mangala rules 2-family ++ 5-children-politics-entertainments

Mangala occupies the volatile disruptive identity-changing, sometimes disastrous 8th-from-Chandra

Mangala Mahadasha * age 69 until age 76 was generally difficult due to multiple problems related to her son (Kuja-5)

Mangala-5 children ruled by Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 * Mangala rules 5th-from-Chandra = bhava-2 value, wealth, accruals

Agent of polarizing catalysis = the Son

Dolley's surviving son named Payne Madison did poorly in school (likely due to learning disabilities) then became an alcoholic and inveterate gambler. He was constantly in and out of jail for debts and "shooting incidents" (Mangala-6 rules-5).

Her dissolute son was a source of constant frustration to his mother and his stepfather. In widowhood, Dolley faced unexpected and debilitating poverty. Firstly, her husband had neglected the affairs of his plantations, after which they had sold much of their property with slaves in order to pay her son's debts. When she secondly handed the management of the remaining properties to her son, he mismanaged them and ruined any remaining value..

Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

  • Budha-Meza * innovative communications * pioneering pronouncement * articulation of dynamic movement * discusses physical experience * vigorous descriptive explanations * challenging conversation * messages about contests * vocabulary of vitality * hands-arms-shoulders send competitive gestures
  • Budha in bhava-7 * narrative of partnership * discusses contracts * debates on deals * analysis of relationships * discourse on trusts * banters about betrothal * crafting of covenants * delivers negotiating instructions * explainer of arrangements * talks about fairness * advocate for justice * gestures toward settlement of quarrels * mentality of marriage * formulates alliances * defines equity * balanced bargains
  • Budha-yuti-Zukra * explainer of balanced arrangements * diplomatic conversations * parity-seeking discussions * manual adjustments * enjoys words * sweet descriptions * delivers instruction about relationships * articulator of equity in agreements * message of fairly bargained contracts * skilled in songwriting * talkative sister-cousin-cohort * detailed lyricist * attracts chatty partners

Budha-yuti-Zukra in the leading, decision-making, social-ordering 10th-from-Chandra indicates the importance of her diplomatic relationship skills

Guru * dhavakaraka * bahuta-karaka

* Harsha Yoga

  • Guru-Kanya * much ministry of service * many servants * numerous employees * indoctrination of laborers * much logical argumentation * conflicted guidance * generously assists many victims * optimistic about medication * believes in helpfulness * doctrine of benevolent humility
  • Guru in bhava-12 * swabhava * many retreats * much divination * many hospitalizations * many spiritual retreats * numerous psychic way-showers * much interiority * much generous privacy * extensive trance guidance * a patron of sanctuary enclosures * in a wifely nativity, husband-figure may be benevolently invisible

Zukra * svadhu-karaka * kalatra-karaka


  • Zukra-Meza * appreciation of direct movement * likes innovation * attracted to champions * pleasures of conquest * kinetic sensuality * dominant partner * sweetly competitive * aristocratic agreements
  • Zukra-7 * swabhava * seeks pleasure via interpersonal relationships * enjoys contractual harmony * adjustable partnerships * pleasing designs to adorn the lower back * kidney-adrenal over-use * often too much sugar * lovely external genitalia * gracious advisers * balanced mutual agreement * fair financial arrangements * appreciation of equity
  • Zukra-yuti-Budha * sweetened messages * gracious explanations * talented in singing-songwriting * articulate negotiations * talkative feminine-figures * pleasant conversations * bargaining for business * sibling-cohort communicative harmony * enjoys the company of students * detailed contracts * logical arrangements

Budha-yuti-Zukra in the leading, decision-making, social-ordering 10th-from-Chandra indicates the importance of her diplomatic relationship skills. It is also a mark of two marriages.

Zukra Mahadasha * age 33 until age 53 * years 1801 until 1821

  • 1801-1809 James Madison served as Secretary of State.
  • 1809 until 1817 James Madison served as POTUS-04

As the leading political hostess in Washington D.C. during the 18-year bhukti 1800-1818, Dolley Payne Madison played a significant, but gender-discounted, role in establishing the future of the fledgling country and negotiating personality conflicts between the leaders.

Her balancing, relationship-cultivating Zukra-yuti-Budha-Mesha-7 occupies the emotionally dignified , social-ordering, leadership-seeking; 10th-from-Chandra displays an empowered career as a crafter of partnership agreements.

Without her physically active (Mesha) support, the shy and soft-spoken legal writer James Madison would likely have stayed in retirement following his exit (during his 40's) from the House of Representatives.

Yet Dolley liked to relate with Zukra music and dancing (Arudra swamsha), and her expertise in connecting people of disparate interests through shared food and drink (Zukra) and conversation (Budha) built Madison's career from House of Representatives to Secretary of State to POTUS-04.

Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

Yogakaraka Shani rules 4-foundations, schooling + 5-intelligence, creativity

  • Shani-Mithunaya * tiresome old documents * resistance to change of explanations * must conform to hierarchical management structure * must maintain orderly communications * rigid process handling * heavy old discussions * obligatory, strictly scripted conversations * inflexible instructions * must endure proletarian talk * slow elderly messengers * structural compression upon hand-arm-shoulder * restricted breathing * insufficient team cooperation * must continue old collaborations * scarce information resources
  • Shani in Bhava-9 * slowly time-structured rehearsal of the principles of belief * must preach the patriarchal faith * must impose the old convictions * punitive ideologies * cautiously conventional professors * judgmental father-figures * unyielding religious teachers * chronic rigidity of worldview * heavy doctrinal pressure against individual truth * resistance to new viewpoints * preacher's fatigue * intolerance for sacerdotal innovation * supports socially-approved, rigidly dutiful guru-roles * elders preserve strict sacred rules
  • Shani-yuti-Ketu * resistance against dispersion * distancing style of social conformity * pragmatic dissociation * limited surrender * lawful abandonment * spiritual paralysis * disinterested in outdated protocols * disciplined apathy *constrained wandering * regulated dissolution

A brutal Budha-Shani chidradasha, Dolley's age 22-23 * Budha-8 in 12th-from-Shani rules Shani-yuti-Ketu

Eleven months before marrying James Madison in 1794, Dolley had been widowed by the yellow fever epidemic that had swept through Philadelphia. The infectious fever killed her first husband and her infant son, along with more than 5000 other citizens. Her father had died the year earlier, her mother had moved away, and her husband's parents who might have helped her had also perished in the plague. Destitute and grieving, she was left with one living son named Payne Todd, aged two.

Shani-yuti-Ketu-Mithunaya-9 had significantly disconnective outcomes, since Yogakaraka Shani rules both 4-homes security cultural roots ++ 5-children, gambling, creativity, politics .

Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 rules 4- homes and farm properties.

Contrary to Dolley's Quaker upbringing, after marriage her homes were maintained by slaves. Their family (consisting of James, Dolley, Dolley's sister, and Dolley's son) could travel as needed, knowing that their homes were being operated in absentia by faithful slaves.

Bandesha Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 suggests that Dolley's beliefs were often permeable and inconsistent., and Shani occupies t6th-from-4th, predicting chronic problems with property. Toward the end of life, due largely to her son's mismanagement of their properties and her husband being 17 years her elder, Dolley who had once socialized with the wealthiest planters experienced sickness, isolation, and poverty

Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 rules 5-children, gambling

Dolley's son Payne Todd became a problematic adult. He suffered from alcoholism, compulsive gambling, and social indiscretions. Dolley continued to believe in him and James continued to fund him. James turned over control of his once-prosperous tobacco plantation (the family's only source of income) to Payne, and Payne mismanaged the property so badly that James, his elderly mother, Dolley, and Payne were embittered by poverty toward the end of their lives. Historians attribute Madison's financial collapse mainly to Payne.

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

  • Rahu-Dhanuzya * shimmering illusion of wisdom * craving for philosophical principle * mirage of generous patronage * extraordinary theory * extravagant preaching * unorthodox approach to higher truth * mask of global humanism* fascinating doctrine * over-reaching catechisms * fabulous proselytism * seeks special importance via apparent (but perhaps not authentic) attributes of philosophical belief * seeks privilege via guru-roles
  • Rahu in bhava-3 * passion for communication * in swabhava of Busy Budha, the Shadowy Specter = glamorous writing * exotic photography * unusual journalistic reporting * thrilling announcements * unorthodox commentary * mesmerizing messaging * craves publication * ambitious sibling-cousins * mixed-culture collaborative teams * desire for conversations * over-reaching in commercial business * exciting gestures * opportunistic approach to manufacturing * entranced by information technology * boundary-breeching via unconventional explanations * fascinating evangelism * seeks privilege via management roles

Rahu occupies the emotionally contentious, accusatory, defaming, impoverishing 6th-from-Chandra

Rahu in 12th-from-7th from Chandra ++ Rahu occupies 6th-from-Chandra

Rahu Mahadasha * age 76 until decease age 81 was difficult due to drishti from Shani-yuti-Ketu bringing her second widowhood. Plus, renegade Rahu occupies the impoverishing 6th-from-Chandra adding ill-health into the final scene.

Rahu-3 Writing Editing Documenting

Rahu-Dhanushya-3 while Guru resides in 10th-from-Rahu = Dolley spent decades copying, editing, and organizing her husband's papers from his 40 years in government service during the Revolutionary Era. One of her few sources of income following James Madison's death was a Congressional allotment paying her for this extensive literary work.

Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka * vasana-karaka (vacuum)

  • Ketu-Mithunaya * dissociates from conversation * incomplete messages * empty instructions * absent from discussion * wandering mentality * fragmented signals * not limited by conventional communications * ignores normal business * forgives the sibling-cohort * incoherent scripts * releases a plant-green cloud of explanatory gestures into the misty abyss
  • Ketu in classroom-9 * disinterested in credenda * wandering worldview * disengaged from faith doctrine * disregards theory * vacuous philosophy * irrelevance of standard dogma * ambivalence toward principled convictions * weird beliefs * ignores the conventional understandings * incoherent ideology * unless other graha in 9, may prefer to live free from father-figures
  • Ketu-yuti-Shani * nonconforming * surrendered status * empty structures * disconnected elders * unsustainable rules * abandoned achievements * peculiar profession * chronological disorientation * irregular order * apathetic boss * fragmented materialism * incoherent legislation * disregard for rigid social conventions * free from survival fear * liberation via release of concern for public approval

Shani-yuti-Ketu the Liberator in bhava-9 supports legalized Freedom of Religion. Dharmesha Budha-7 makes it legal.

  • POTUS-pair-04 hostess 1768-1849 Dolley Madison was raised into the Quaker faith, and her first husband was a Quaker too. But after being widowed, Dolley accepted the marriage proposal of non-Quaker POTUS-04 James Madison whom she married in 1794. She was excommunicated from the Quaker assembly for marrying outside of her faith, and she avoided religious affiliation until advanced age, when in her seventies she joined a local Protestant church. The Madisons were both staunch defenders of religious freedom in the new USA, where they helped to resist the movement to legally impose taxes to support a state Church.


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