Shiva and Parvati, night terrace
"Gravity cannot be held responsible for people falling in love."
~~ Theory of Relativity 1879-1955 Albert Einstein
“If a person seeking a companion cannot find one who is better than or equal to him, let him resolutely go on alone;
there can be no companionship with a fool.”
~~ Gautama Buddha , Dhammapada verse-61
OM dram dreem droum sah shukraya namah
OM pram preem proum sah shanaischaraya namah
Venus * Ishtarra
The Bright One
The Bright One
Phos-phoros * Heos-phoros
Lucifer * Vesper
Morgen-steorra // Aefen-steorra
Inanna * Aphrodite * Venera
Saturn * Kevan
Saturan * Sauran * Kronos * Kaivan
Anu * Ninurta * El * Eli
"the old sun, the best sun"
Shani-yuti-Shukra descriptions also apply to Shani-Shukra in mutual aspect
Himeji Castle in Japan built from year 1333 CE has never been damaged by earthquake or war
This benevolent combination signals success in artistic endeavor of a pragmatic * materialistic character * such as music composition or fashion design. Deepens the artistic discipline.
Shani contributes mature realism to Shukra's aesthetic of balance + beauty.
In a husbandly nativity * may prefer an elder wife.
success in disciplined artistic endeavor, such as music composition or fashion design
Pleasure of Working, Structuring, Lawfulness
Likes to work (and work, and work) in a structured lawful environment where deal-making, arranging, balancing, negotiation, match-making define the daily process. Yet unless Surya is exceptionally strong, the combined force of Shani with Shukra prevents the theatrical, self-focused solipsism that could lead to autocracy in governance roles.
structured approach to fashion and architectural design
The male is attracted to women of common background, with loyal, hard-working and materialistic qualities. Typically, the woman is blessed with an excellent sense of artistic design, and they are often employed in the fashion, arts management, or architectural design industries. Occasionally the graha are so advanced that the wife is involved in the development of apprehension of beautiful cosmic or mathematical designs
The wife's attention is closely focused on the material plane. Wealth development is a primary goal [Shani] and pleasure [Shukra]. Men with Shani + Shukra have wives who help the male native to build wealth, and wives who build their own wealth independently through their dedicated professional behaviors. Marriage is steady and dutiful. Slow but steady accumulation of financial wealth through the pragmatic financial and professional behaviors of the wife.
For a husband-nativity, Shukra + Shani in strong positions can signify a wife who is a fashion designer or an artist's model
From the perspective of one in the husband-role, she in the wifely-companion likes to work and she is appreciated in her professional environment. She will flourish in the arts, fashion, and worlds of structure and appearance. She is particularly well-respected for being a dedicated worker who observes the rules and conforms to the social hierarchy.
Naturally if other graha interfere, the prognosis is changed.
financially privileged, reliable, lawful, upholds the social class order
If either Shani or Shukra happen to rule bhava-6, conflicts and accusation can assail even the best combinations
Mixed narratives: mani-money [Shukra] and the working classes [Shani]
Nixon (below) = not a conjunction but rather a Shukra-Shani parivartamsha. Still this case exemplifies one of the ironies of Shukra-Shani combinations as it expresses the mixing of those using a narrative of pleasure-treasure with those committed to a narrative of scarcity.
Crater Lake Oregon, sunrise
Shukra receives drishti of Shani
= similar but slightly less structured by duty and material responsibilities. Shani drishti to Shukra is beneficial for marriage stability and commitment to vows.
Seven Year Itch 1926-1962 Marilyn Monroe
UK-PM Global Alliance 1953- Tony Blair
Isabel Clara Eugenia and Magdalena Ruiz by Sanchez Coello, Alonso. ca. 1586
collection of El Museo de Pradoen Madrid, Espana -- http://www.museodelprado.es
Shani drishti to Shukra, especially the mutual aspect, greatly strengthens materialism.
When Shani has any relationship to Shukra, the material capabilities are enhanced. More so with the mutual aspect.
One becomes acutely focused on affluence , money management , collections and accumulations, acquisitions of all kinds. The artistic and architectural sensibilities = enhanced. But one is not a spacey artist with a Shani-Shukra connection. Upward mobility and material luxury are the goals of this duo.
Young people often ask: will I be wealthy in this life? If monetary wealth is wanted, one answer will be found in the relationship between Shani and Shukra.
In a masculine nativity, the wife is skillful with funds and always focused on acquisitions. Normally also a gracious entertainer. If Shani is in a tough rashi e.g. Vṛścika or Simha, the wife may be a bit hard-boiled, but her money-radar will be sharp. Her goal is to build up a beautiful and luxurious social position for the marriage. If Shukra and Shani are auspicious, she will succeed.
Loneliness. Socially awkward and disconnected, oppressed/repressed emotionally. Hard worker, reserved. The female spouse [Shukra] may be glamorous and social butterfly while the male native is reserved and disciplined. Although one may love one's young wife or daughters deeply and delight in their charms, Shukra-opposed-Shani may feel old and dry in the presence of their attractive, sensual youth.
Shukra and Shani are friendly toward each other, and this yoga is not so much of a problem if one can relax into a suitable work-pleasure balance. The key to managing this yoga is to not take yourself so seriously. With this yoga one is a seriously committed lover and good citizen. You make time to enjoy pleasures with loved ones. Barring Rahu-Ketu or other unstable influence upon the Shukra-Shani axis, one is faithful to the marriage vows.
Maintaining strength and security for your loved ones is a job you do well and for which you deserve recognition. But there is no need to be gloomy and overly serious about your role. Unfortunately, it seems like the women in one's life do not appreciate one's efforts, and one's orderly aesthetic tastes are perhaps not praised by society.
Frustration in marriage due to feeling overworked and underappreciated. Female spouse is a pleasure-lover (type of pleasure via Shukra's rashi ). Female spouse is sensually indulgent or self-permissive, in contradistinction to one's own more serious behavior. however, she may have nice qualities such as a pleasant appearance and social charm.
Shukra and Shani are friendly Graha who can work together well with consciousness. Lighten up.
Icy ocean beach
| Shukra in shad-ashtaka 6-8 challenge-angle to Shani
Menorah for Channukah
Normally, Shukra and Shani are friends. Shukra directs the material pleasure senses while Shani manages material order and organization.
Shani's job is to ensure safety through conformity. Shukra's job is to provide pleasure through attraction and sensual experience. When properly coordinated, Shukra + Shani provide artistic and architectural design capability, financial well-being, and social structures such as marriage which facilitate the flow of material pleasures. They are normally a cooperative and 'simpatico' pair.
When Shukra and Shani are out of balance (6/8), sensual pleasure experience and the rules of social structure are permanently in conflict. One feels a lifelong tension and animosity between that to which one is Attracted, versus that which society [Shani] condones. One's love choices feel socially unsupported, unapproved or unsafe.
One tends to lack affluence development or maintenance skills. Wealth acquisition prognosis is reduced.
The lover, or spouse, women in one's life generally -- even one's taste in textiles, perfumes, art and literature [Shukra] -- is found to be uncomfortably off-balance with conventional social relationship rules [Shani]. Even if the love relationship is satisfying on a personal level, the lover may cause humiliation, undignified servitude (such as prostitution or slavery), or other deprivation of social protection.
Vimshottari periods of awkward shad-ashtaka 6/8 angle between Shukra-Shani are inherently difficult. During these periods, the native projects one's internal love-vs-security conflict upon the external environment.
The love object seems to be misbehaving . One's love partner (or one's aesthetic preference in the case of taste in scents / sweets / art / music / literature) is found to be socially inappropriate. One can't"make it work" gracefully. There is exaggerated tension and inner argument between the partners. One's love cannot be forced into a socially 'safe' relationship package.
Sultan Ahmad Shah State Mosque * Kuantan Mosque * Pahang, Malaysia
The Way Out = releasing the fear trauma
For the conscious native, periods of 6/8 between any two graha = an opportunity to bring subconscious conflict from parallel lives up to the surface awareness. shad-ashtaka 6-8 challenge-angle s are troublesome in material and electro-magnetic emotional life
Yet, these periods offer the opportunity to"seize the day" in therapeutic self-reflection. From the present lifetime's intelligent control base, seek to re-negotiate these old fears of disharmony and social punishment.
An imbalance-seeking-a-remedy between sensual pleasure and social duty in the parents' relationship has led to the native internalizing the negative expectation that one's love experience must result in insecurity, and also that the achievement of social approval must entail a battle to keep love pleasures at bay.
During the 6/8 Shukra-Shani bhukti , relationships are awkward and blaming . Previous agreements appear to be at the point of collapse. One expects an uprising of polarizing catalysis with the beloved to "only get worse".
The attraction does not end, and the fear of punishment does not end; rather, both the attraction * akarshana * and the fear of negative consequences from the attraction will intensify, in tandem . Discomfort is heightened if the two rashi are especially adversarial -- e.g., Simha vs. Makara.
A balance between true attraction and social lawfulness seems unachievable, Yet, the relationship cannot be ended. As always with the 6/8, one is "damned if you do and damned if you don't."
As always with Shani bhukti, their bark is worse than their bite . Shani's job is to stimulate memory-embedded fear-based resistance to change. Shani's compulsive repetition of the past is similar to what psychologists call Post Traumatic Shock. The intimidating power of remembered fear is usually much worse than its actual, measurable material consequences in the present time.
Any Shani bhukti evokes survival fear. Shani in the '6th-from' any graha evokes specific fears of war, slavery, poverty, and disgrace. The way out of Shani's "traction" is to develop a conscious awareness that an awkward shad-ashtaka 6/8 angle Shukra-Shani bhukti (whether secondary bhukti or a shorter tertiary 'antardasha') evokes an inherited set of negative expectations, usually a legacy from the parents (but traceable to the native 's parallel lives as well). The parents' fear-based belief system can be questioned, and a realistic assessment of realistic consequences [Shani] can be produced.
What are the real consequences? Is one's choice of spouse, lover, music, or style or dress likely propel one headlong into poverty, prostitution, ignominy, or crime? If so, by all means take action! But under normal circumstances, Shani's fears are hyper-charged with the memory of genuine trauma in the past. In some parallel life , one's husband did indeed sell one into brutal prostitution. A wife's drug addiction in a another life plunged an entire family into poverty and disgrace. In some lifetime, one was driven from the village with burning torches [Shani] for wearing fancy clothes [Shukra].
All true. But if the past-life charge can be released off these memories, one will quite likely find that the threatened social censure is relatively tame, and the beloved is not the enemy.
Kleine Kirche an einem hellen Wintermorgen in Österreich
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"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you
these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
~~ Revelation 22:16 (version: King James Bible)
(Star of David = Shani, and Morning Star = Shukra)