Shani (Saturn) in Twelve Houses (bhava)
On the minus side, fearful Shani brings to His occupied house behaviors which are experienced as restrictive. Characteristics of the environments and agents in domains 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, and 12 may be stubborn, persistent, fearful, conservative and slow.
On the plus side, in kendra (1, 4, 7, 10) lawful Shani may be experienced as supportive. Shani imposes routines, conventional behavior patterns, predictable environments, and realistic expectations. In kendra, Shani's influence is overall favorable due to the value of regularity in those environments.
When reading any nativity, these effects must be balanced with all effects of all the other graha.
"The resistance to the unpleasant situation is the root of suffering." ~~ Ram Dass
"Working the System"
Wherever Shanaicharya goes, one "works the system" as one finds it. Whether the system is flawed or not, one diligently protects the status quo.
Shani does not make changes to the system in the house where Shani is placed. In fact, Shani specifically resists all threat of impending change.
Shani will defend the existing laws and customs of the house, and work hard to keep the system of His bhava "in order".
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Shani in domain-1 - deficiency of identity |
A regulator of systems of social identification who is judged according to one's physical appearance and social-material attributes. One is never quite fully approved. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of identity. Trouble from agents of identity invalidation
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Shani in domain-2 = deficiency of natural resources (food, money) |
A regulator of systems of collected wealth and knowledge who is judged according to one's storehold of resources (including knowledge banks of aesthetic, linguistic, and historical cultural values). One is always short of funds. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of resources. Trouble from agents of knowledge and wealth invalidation =
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Shani in domain-3 - deficiency of communications |
A regulator of systems of reporting who is judged according to one's collaborative, conversational mentality and publication skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of communication. Trouble from agents of communicative invalidation =
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Shani in domain-4 = deficiency of foundations |
A regulator of systems of protection who is judged according to one's property ownership and caretaking skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of roots. One never quite fits in. Trouble from agents of belongingness or appropriateness invalidation =
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Shani in domain-5 = deficiency of creativity |
A regulator of systems of creative genius who is judged according to one's performance art and reproductive skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of speculative inteligence. One never quite wins the game. Trouble from agents of theatrical or political invalidation =
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Shani in domain-6 = deficiency of argumentation |
A regulator of systems of arguments and complaints who is judged according to one's logical and analytical skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of argumentation. One never quite free of servitude. Trouble from agents of medical or military invalidation =
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Shani in domain-7 = deficiency of agreement |
A regulator of systems of contracts and alliances who is judged according to one's balancing and diplomatic skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of agreement. One never quite in balance; both mother (4) and father (9) are judgemental. Trouble from agents of marital invalidation =
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Shani in domain-8 = deficiency of transformation |
A regulator of systems of destruction and rebirth who is judged according to one's emergency management skills. Shani distributes, to 3rd, 7th, and 10th from His house, the karmic pressure of being judged. Four areas of special difficulty caused by karmic necessity to regulate a deficiency of transformative energy. One never quite reborn, due to fearful attachment to outdated forms. Trouble from agents of inheritance invalidation =
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Shani in domain-9 = deficiency of wisdom |
a religious functionary who works the system of philosophical beliefs and liturgical process. |
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Shani in domain-10 = deficiency of governance |
an executive functionary who works the system of hierarchical positioning, leadership and government. |
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Shani in domain-11 = deficiency of connectivity |
a marketplace functionary who works the system of interlocking communities and large, complex networks. |
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Shani in domain-12 = deficiency of sanctuary |
an identity-loss functionary who works the system of sanctuaries, enclosures, prisons, and dream-state realities. |
The native is rarely "inspired" or socially praised by one's work in the Shani-occupied house. Rather, the Shani-related work provides routine and structure.
One has the sense of fulfilling social obligation, and earning one's wages through honest labor. Shani is not glamorous or fun. He needs endless repetition and He hates any type of Change!
Naturally, Shani's enemies are
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Surya the champion of soul transformation through Intelligence
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Rahu the demonic agent of transformation through taboo-breaking and the chaos of raging desires.
If Shani is forced to share a bhava with Surya or Rahu, Shani will lose the comfort of a predictable routine and the native's life will be deeply unsettled. Nevertheless the native may become a force
Perfectionism
Shani brings psychological perfectionism. Upon the bhava of His residence, Shanaicarya enforces a karmic emphasis on accomplishment and completion, according to law. One must work on the task until it is completely perfect. No fun allowed.
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Shani's Domain |
Shani casts drishti upon 3rd, 7th, and 10th from the bhava which He occupies |
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Shani in domain-1 Mesha [neechcha]
Vrishabha
Mithuna
Karkata
Simha Kanya
Thula
Vrischika Dhanusha Makara
Kumbha
Meena
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See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-1 Parashari drishti to domains: 3, 7, and 10.
Lawfulness restricts, restrains and delays: communications (3); marriage (7); and career (10). Shani's cautious dristhi upon partnerships and career imposes routine and prevents sudden changes, which is generally a favorable influence in those environments. Identity Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the physical appearance and social identity. Must work to earn validation of the flesh-based social identity. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not good enough" syndrome. A profoundly lawful personality who pays focused attention to matters of social rank and hierarchical position. Physical behaviors are fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Appearance and Social Identity Shani prefers that matters of his residence should be modest, respectable, and regulated. In domain-1, Shani favors a conforming appearance, traditional costume, and identity with some large corporate organization or government. Naturally, other graha joining Shani in lagna or drishti from more exciting planets can alter the appearance. (Shukra adds attractiveness, a Guru drishti adds height, etc.) Yet, Shani the Regulator will noticeably prefer a personality and physique that conforms to mainstream expectations in the culture of origin or the culture of choice. It is quite rare to find a flamboyant theatrical type with Shani in lagna. The Shani-rising native is born to take social responsibility; one gravitates naturally toward executive roles in corporate hierarchies and government. Habits and RoutinesThe social personality does best when supported by regular procedures, habits, and routines. (Not always "good" habits; but always "regular" habits!)
The Hard Edge
Transit
Resistance to Body Validation
Resistance to Charismatic Individuality Ironically, the native is so busy working and carrying public responsibilities that there is no time to develop one's individuality. Shani rules the masses; one is primarily identified with large corporations, governments, and social mass movement. Although Shani has dignity in kendra where He provides skilled leadership and the power to impose an orderly environment on one's downstream, one's fundamental identity is populist, with the vast legions of the common man. [Naturally, if other graha induce a charismatic glitter, this somber style can lighten up considerably. Also, one may develop extraordinary charismatic intelligence in other channels which do not rely on the physical appearance, e.g. Stephen King expresses genius through his books.]
= a social ranking functionary who works the socially approved system of physical appearances and hierarchical identities. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of identity as defined by social rank and position. Some difficulties or maturation are required before obtaining confidence in life entitlement. This personality is profoundly affected by some type of survival fear which makes one a very hard worker. Survival patterns are imprinted at the very earliest developmental stages. Survival patterns range from primitive to highly sophisticated, according to the nativity. E.g., when Shani is otherwise well-disposed, native is exceptionally responsible. If Budha is auspicious, survival patterns are engaged with sharp analytical thinking. (Margaret Thatcher, Vladimir Putin) If Surya is strong, the native is remarkably self-sufficient. However there is no escaping the damage that Shani does in lagna. The native has a overwhelming strong perception of structures, rules, limitations, Scarcity and Time. This perception will be channeled through the mechanism of the entire nativity. Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance
Publicity and Publications
"... if Saturn occupies the Ascendant at a person's birth, he will be poor, sickly, love stricken, very unclean, suffering from diseases during his childhood and indistinct in his speech. However, if any of the signs -- Sagittarius, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn [Barack Obama] and Libra [Margaret Thatcher, Jimmy Carter] be the Ascendant and Saturn should occupy it at birth, the person concerned will be equal to a king, the headman of a village or the mayor of the city, a great scholar and will be handsome. " ~~ Brihat Jataka |
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Fear of appearing inappropriate or low ranked. Subconscious fear of inability to survive. A difficult childbirth for the infant native, often deeply suppressed in memory. The mother may have been unwillingly to give birth, or resistant to having another child. Lifelong feelings of scarcity and a need to work hard to gain acceptance. Classical authorities often claim that Shani in lagna creates an impoverished, bony or emaciated appearance. In fact, I often see large-sized, even overweight person with Shani in lagna. Also there are plenty of wealthy professional people who have Jyotisha Shani in radix lagna. Wealth comes even when Shani is also rising in navamsha! IMO, Shani in lagna does not per se give a thin body, poverty, or ill-health. At least in the modern West, the emaciation may easily be emotional or spiritual rather than physical in appearance. The native is always feeling blocked, deprived, and hungry for validation. However, in the West at least, the native may eat as much supposedly nourishing food as they want. Of course, this food is often tainted, and in the case of Shani in lagna the native simply never feels satisfied with their food (or their relationships, or their social standing, or anything else! Really, domain-2 rules the mouth and access to food, so Shani in lagna does not limit food or money. Shani in lagna does limit one's access to self-satisfaction and material happiness. Self-image The native is not self-validating and thus one must work hard and consistently to guarantee the flow of essential social validation. The general public has more power over this native's self-image than over one who does not have Shani in radix lagna, or with Chandra. Thus despite Shani's reputation for making a dark, enslaved-to-survival laborer, the nativities above which represent those holding very high political office, will be seen best as "enslaved" to public opinion, and very much needing validation from Shani things such as hard work, large organization, rule of large, and hierarchical organizations. Appearance The Shani-rising native will always be a hard worker and face obstacles in life, but the physical appearance is not typically thin, dark, or bony in appearance as the classics often suggest. IMO the classic Jyotisha commentaries are by and large situated in ancient or medieval culture. 'Work' in those days was almost always manual work which had the effects of thin, dark, bony, tired etc. However 'work' these days is often mental work. Yes it is exhausting, but heavy repetitive indoor work tends toward a pasty complexion, sedentary plumpness and can also build great wealth! The central effect of Shani in lagna is the *survival fear* which drives the work, not the type of work itself. What I do see much more often in my Western clientele (which includes numerous immigrant Easterners now settled in USA) is a tendency toward destructive levels of judgmental conformism and perfectionism. The native seems to be constantly proving and re-proving his legitimacy and worth. Mandatory perfection comes with a deep-seated self-protection, itself a response to the Shani threat of being isolated, ostracized or abandoned. This pattern of working unusually hard to earn one's place in the family, business, and society can be seen in all Shani-rising nativities at all stations in life. Perhaps the native is driven to excel in a particular area of knowledge, a particular set of commercial skills, or a particular moral behavior. Any type of work will be done well by this native. However their sorrow is that they will never be good enough. Their underlying fear prevents them ever being fully satisfied, or fully grateful, toward any material accomplishment. Their work is never done. Socially identified with matters such as calendaring and scheduling; the timing of events; and managing matters of age. Has senior status or expertise due to life experience. Casting His harshest 3rd and 10th aspects upon administration (3) and career (10) with 75% impact upon marriage/agreements (7) Shani restricts and delays the attainment of self-made wealth, administrative projects, and leadership prestige. It's important to appreciate that if supporting graha are strong the native may manifest considerable material success and achieve high position. But one will never be satisfied with these achievements, due to the underlying threat of scarcity, the fear that whatever they have achieved in somehow not enough. They need more praise, more laurels, more assignments, more tasks... even if their existing achievement are formidable, this native must continue to earn further distinction. No help from the marriage partner. Siblings are a burden in youth, not an asset. A positive 3rd-house would show healthy competition with siblings/cousins which builds communication skills and confidence to take risks later in life (courage). Malefic Shani aspect to 3 shows native is risk-averse, has negative expectation of successful competition. Also negative expectation of love in marriage, and negative expectation of dignity in career. Person pulls resources into his/herself; lacks initiative for business. Self-reliant, independent, and lonely. |
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Shani in domain-2 Mesha [neechcha] Vrishabha Mithuna Karkata
Simha
Kanya
Thula [uchcha] Vrischika
Dhanusha Makara
Kumbha
Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 4, 8, and 11. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-2 Restrains and delays: completion of education, acquisition of landed properties (4); spouse's money, shocks, emergencies (8); and gains of income, development of friendship networks (11). Shani does not permanently prevent; rather, Shanaicarya delays and frustrates. Barring help from other more fruitful drishti to 4, and 11, Shani's negative expectations often retard the acquisition of both fixed assets (4) and liquid money (2); in addition Shani restricts the spousal wealth (8) and limits the personal income. Neechcha Shani-Mesha-2, for Meena lagna, is not as difficult as it might look. Shani will own and aspect Makara domain-11, while L-11 Shani enters domain-2, creating a dhana yoga. The most difficult position for Shani-2 = Yogakaraka Shani in 2 (for Thula and Vrishabha lagna) does not alleviate the financial limitations. Karmic resistance to accumulations is as high for yogakaraka Shani as for any other designation of Shani. Rather than bring wealth, yogakaraka Shani - the karaka of Systems -- enforces a study of Systems of Value. Until this study is completed, finance creates Shani-driven anxiety.
Example: Mohandas Gandhi Financial and Knowledge Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the knowledge inventory and accumulated wealth.
"Have not collected enough" syndrome. Appearance and Social Identity
Regular Meals, Small but Steady Money Shani's anxieties can be tamed by arranging a regular savings programme which need not be and indeed should not be large. Shani in 2 requires regular meals - again not large necessarily, but absolutely regular. Shani is quite capable of fasting, but only by previous arrangement and never as a punishment or a shock. Acquisition of any type of collection, whether food, money, art, music, real properties, of varieties of historical knowledge, must be paced. One glass of wine is lovely; two is completely enough; and three would be anathema to austere but pragmatic Shani. Resistance and delay regarding money, knowledge, speech, and family of origin. The particular type of resisted knowledge will be indicated by the rashi and any companion graha. Ironically, the native is so busy working and carrying public responsibilities that there is no time to save money or acquire knowledge. Feeling pressured by Time (Shani) one will tend to work very hard but the mind sustains ignorance (Shani) of the values, habits, and cultural information necessary to acquire personal wealth. When Shani is a yogakaraka or otherwise well disposed, He may permit (or enforce) the studies with can grant knowledge of theoretical economics or other scholarly financial perspective upon the function of wealth within society. Yet the native will due to unconscious habits regularly (Shani) sabotage one's own wealth acquisition by choosing to work instead of acquire. (examples: Karl Marx, Mohandas Gandhi) The family of origin (2) will typically reinforce this wealth-ignorant behavior by emphasizing the value of work itself (Shani) in preference to the value of the pleasurable fruits of the work (Shukra). If Shukra is also ill-disposed, the native may be completely incapable of handling money and be unable to acquire any form of material asset, including knowledge. Such a person may be a great spiritual being but s/he will always be dependent on the generosity of others because one does not possess one's own material resources.. Distrust of money, fear of punishment from acts of speech, fear of food, suspicious of stored goods or values. Terror of death, deep subconscious fear of starvation. The family becomes a psychological burden. Needs to physically separate from the family of origin, often early in life. Shani in domain-2 = a warehousing functionary who works the socially approved system of money and stored cultural values. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of historic lineage wealth, traditional cultural values and ancient knowledge. Shani Drishti to 4: Home Life One seeks a predictable, conventional home-and-school routine Shani Drishti to 8 One seeks a predictable, safe, regulated approach to mysteries, magic, and catastrophic change Shani Drishti to 11 One seeks a predictable, reliable, routine method of making gains in the marketplace. Typically a salary-earner, although much depends on graha within labha bhava. Even if the native is a very independent profiteer (e.g. via strong Surya or Kuja in 11) there is an underlying requirement for some portion of the income to be gained on a regulated basis, as a common worker earning one's salary 'salt'. The native typically has very basic (food-2) survival anxiety which is best addressed by ensuring that the survival costs are met using payments from the government (Shani) or other large, tightly regulated-hierarchies. Difficulties with Hoarding In dhana bhava, Shani's sense of social duty and safety for survival acquires Shukra-like acquisitive characteristics; yet the approach to accumulation and storage is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. The native tends to carry a heavy load of responsibility for wealth and knowledge hoarding. One takes a sober and practical approach to a long roster of acquisition and storage tasks in this lifetime. Accessing and accumulating the hoards is difficult is difficult. Karaka agents of domain-2 such as bankers, knowledge-providers, and the family of origin may be intractable or unsupportive. The native works very hard to acquire knowledge of history and languages, sensual luxuries such as fine foods and wines, wealth in coin, and collections of beautiful objects. Repetition and Diligence in Matters of Acquisition Wealth acquisition does succeed in Time, with many delays, because Shukra's dhana bhava is a hospitable territory for Shani. However there are numerous setbacks to be expected and matters of the two houses ruled by Shani must be repeated many times before the material results can be obtained. Shani's workload of wealth-building often involves managing collections, studying historical traditions, and extremely conservative financial behaviors. Speech and Language Based on rejection from the family or a simple lack of comfort from them, one may be prone to speak negatively regarding the failings of one's own family members. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining clear and easy speech. Initially speech is vulgar, cramped, foreshortened, or difficulty in expressing through language. May struggle to express successfully in the tongue of a foreign land, or be professionally responsible for expressing difficult concepts. (If Shani is dignified, success after much effort in language comprehension and speech.) The key to success will be Shani's traditional simplicity. Shani-controlled speech is traditional, conventional, plain, and direct, with little poetic nuance or literary grace. If Shani owns good houses (Thula or Vrishabha lagna in particular) or if His lord is auspicious, Shani's speech is straightforward, well-defined, easy to understand and elegantly simple. Native has burdensome responsibilities for speaking/singing/telling historical tales: it feels like work. Does not harm writing or hearing - only speaking. If Shani is not well disposed, the native is not gracious of speech -- unless helped by drishti of benefics. (correction of speech/language difficulties when Shani = yogakaraka or Budha = uchcha) As always, better results for Thula and Vrishabha lagna, and better results with any type of support from Shukra. Money and Values Collections
Financial behaviors are fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. The scale of worrisome duties may be small or large.
The greater minds will accept responsibility for stripping down the values transmission to the core meanings, removing the meaningless, inappropriate, or distracting accruals from the present cultural asset hoard, and passing along a more essential, more traditional, and more structurally sound package of values to the next generation (Gandhi , Karl Marx). Whether one earns well or not, the psychic inheritance of the family culture which does fear money (whether the family could ever admit that or not!) makes it very difficult to save money or accumulate much in the way of hoarded assets. Even when Shani is favorable, the "savings accounts" and food-stores are much reduced. As always, better results for Thula and Vrishabha lagna, and better results with any type of support from Shukra. When Shani/2 brings wealth: for Mesha and Meena lagna, Shani becomes lord of dhana bhava. For Mesha and Meena, Shani creates a Dhana yoga = L-11 in dhana bhava. Family of origin
Food
When yogakaraka Shani occupies domain-2 in Thula lagna, fasting and voluntary poverty become powerful tools for achieving social balance.
Restrains access to a settled home life.
Reduced spousal wealth, reduced community and marketplace
Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance
"Q. 124: In Bhavartha Chandrika, it is said that Saturn in 2 makes one a fool and a villain. According to Bhargava Samhita, Saturn in 2 makes one learned. How do you reconcile these two statements? Ans. Ancient authors generally emphasize different aspects of the question in their own way. According to Bhavartha Chandrika, Saturn, if weak and afflicted, makes one a fool and a villain. If he is strong and well aspected, he makes one learned. Saturn, a malefic by nature, can become a benefic by position and strength. In such seemingly contradictory statements, we have to be guided by the explanation given by other authors. In Skanda Hora for instance, it has been specially stated that a strong Saturn is not evil but capable of doing good. Saturn gives good Raja Yogas in certain positions. " ~~ B.V. Raman. (1992, 4th ed.). A Catechism of Astrology. Part I, p. 100 |
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Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining properties (4) and marketplace gains (11). Spouse's wealth (8) is slightly restrained or delayed. Shani in 2 restricts native's basic educational values, marriage assets, and social networks. The birth family's values are deficient or very conservative. Long separations from the birth family. In frustration with the narrow limitations of the birth family, the Shani-2 native create motivation to associate with a non-blood family.
Domain-2 represents the family of origin. Dom-4 = parents, primary nurturers Shani occupying domain-2 connotes that the family lineage, the values and historic values-based practices of the family, will exhibit a quality resistance and delay regarding truth. Fear, usually the fear of public criticism, prevents the family culture from handling the task of truth-telling in a direct and straightforward fashion. In addition there are usually money troubles in the family, which have a similar origin. Typically there is no family capital available to be developed by the children, and indeed the native may need to spend his own capital maintaining some family members in later life. If Shani occupies a hostile rashi (Mesha, Simha, Vrischika) one is fundamentally alienated from the family. Family culture may induce hypocritical lying, historical revisionism or cover-up in defense against being attacked or judged. Family finances are strained during upbringing, creating a culture of miserliness and fear. The native may be forced to leave the family in early youth, due to lack of resources. Native exhibits inherited, ineffective, financially dysfunctional time-management behavior (Shani = Time) which is the source of the financial insufficiency. If Shani occupies a neutral or friendly rashi, the native may exhibit lifelong frugality due to an austere upbringing, but one will be capable over time of learning the basic financial skills and achieving modest accumulation. The family are not easy to live with, but over time the mature adult learns a neutral approach. If Shani is swakshetra or uchcha (Kanya, Dhanau, or Makara lagna) despite austerity in family of origin, strong moral culture of work ethic and tremendously effective time management can evoke Shani's power to give strong results over time. Improving the situation requires much disciplined attention to the task, such as training in speech improvement, resetting the teeth or jaw, and learning money skills Domain-2 represents traditional knowledge and cultural values. The native must work very hard to obtain knowledge. Family does not support one's education. Many returns to school, often with chronic interruption of family or financial demands. Learns mainly the hard way, by repetition and humility. Whatever knowledge one is trying to master requires a lifetime of study, yet the family values do not honor scholarship. Shani's drishti to domains 4, 8, and 11 indicates that the knowledge one seeks is constrained by slow or interrupted progress in socialization levels of education, hunger for but limited accessibility to occult knowledge, and constrained speech leading to reduced community support. As always with Shani, the hostile rashis (Mesha, Simha, and Vrischika) provide the greatest difficulties. Most other rashi placements are manageable with mature improvement over time. Also for yogakaraka Shani (Thula or Vrishabha lagna) the native may acquire considerable knowledge Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance
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Shani in domain-3 Mesha [neechcha] Vrishabha
Mithuna Karkata Simha Kanya
Thula [uchcha] Vrischika Dhanusha Makara
Kumbha
Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 5, 9, and 12. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-3 Shani imposes regulated vertical (Makara) and horizontal (Kumbha) systems. Shani in Domain-3 = information reporting systems (media publishing). Mental Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the sibling-team and communication output.
"Have not reported enough" syndrome. Shani in domain-3 = an administrative functionary who works the socially approved system of collaborative mentality and daily business procedures. Siblings, daily conversations, and administrative process are fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani the worker) toward the maintenance of day-to-day mundane communications, meetings and plans, writing and thinking, and the technology which supports group interactions. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining good fortune and 'wins' (5 and 9). Worry due to blocked access to meditation/prayer (12). Shani's extreme sobriety can produce mental-emotional depression in house-3 of mental process. Upachaya house and Shani is friend of natural lord Budha = Maturity and self-discipline, over time, will correct these early frustrations and give long-term success. Good results after the second Shani return at approximately age 60.. All good results from Shani must wait for the fullness of time, but drishti of malefic to dusthamsha domain-8 is generally beneficial. Distrust of siblings-cousins, children, the father, and one's own dreams. Depressive mentality. Negative expectations. Worst-case thinking, suspicious of the motives of neighbors, teammates, and co-workers. Uncomfortable and unpopular in small groups such as corporate departments and sports teams. Better if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra (Pitt, Jobs, Reeve, Bush, Welch). Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance
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"No rest for the weary". Anxious mentality, due to blockage on amusements (5) and religious rituals (9) and personal prayer/meditation/dreams (12). Rigid thinking. No easy release for worries. Materialistic mentality, creates depression. Shani in 3 reduces mental health and positive ambition. Causes depression/anxiety set in a "worst-case-scenario" set of expectations stemming from difficulties with siblings in childhood. Feels pressure to conform in communicative style. Beneficial for traditional crafts and formal thought which improves with practice, e.g., writing in formal styles, mastering social registers of speech and behavior, playing musical instruments, handling utensils. The immediate younger sibling is likely to be quite troublesome. Teamwork is demanding, with the native shouldering excess workload. Children are constrained by time or lack of resources, due to Shani's drishti upon domain-5 and domain-9. Resistance and delayor blockage to hands or hearing. Native feels lifelong pressure to conform to traditional or lowest-common-denominator social practices. |
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Shani in domain-4 Roots Mesha Vrishabha Mithuna Karkata
Simha Kanya Thula Vrischika
Dhanusha Makara Kumbha
Meena
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Parashari drishti to 6, 10, and 1. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-4
Shani imposes regulated vertical (Makara) and horizontal (Kumbha) systems. Shani in Domain-4 = information reporting systems (media publishing). Security Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the school, home, parents, and place of belonging. Must work to earn validation of the cultural roots. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not grounded enough" syndrome. Karmic responsibility to attend to the foundations and shelters of life.
Transit
Education Gives reasonably education good results for the native, who is disciplined and conformist in approach to basic schooling (so long as Shani is not in a hostile rashi, such as Madonna or Ernest Hemingway). If Shani is well-disposed, one serves as = a social authentication functionary who works the socially approved system of ethnic legitimacy, education, and property ownership. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of social and emotional security entitlements such as land and vehicle ownership, licensing and diplomas, regulation of ethnic boundaries, and patriotic defense of the motherland. The early childhood home, indoctrination levels of education, property and vehicle acquisition, identification with the mother's cultural roots, and patriotic behaviors are fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining emotional stability (4) health (6) and self-image (1); also restrains career (10). Scarcity and restraint leading to some type of poverty in the early childhood home (may be emotional, material, mental, or spiritual poverty). The parents are deeply conservative, isolated, disciplinarians or are absent. One's sense of ethnic belongingness derives mainly from being a worker, and one may feel alienated from the land of one's birth. Deep appreciation for the experience of those who lack food, clothing, and shelter. Shani gains dignity in kendra and Shani is a welcome guest in the natural house of Chandra. This native has a strong work ethic and is respected for maintaining regular habits. Slow progress in administrative roles with many setbacks and getting pushed down into menial roles or asked to do repetitive work or being consistently underpaid. Conservative mental outlook, framed as "low expectations of others". Expects to do the lion's share of the work in any team. Deep frustration in the mental process. The mind moves very slowly. Works hard for their right to participate in meetings and conferences with decision-makers. Takes on secretarial tasks and other humble service. Great deal of writing in this life, much of it in vain or not receiving the recognition it deserves. If other factors improve things such as drishti from benefics, the discipline for writing and slow laborious thought process will remain. However the native may receive due recognition for their dedicated administrative communications and production-planning service -- over time. Early responsibilities in the childhood home, often due to loss or disability of the mother. Childhood home and parenting tend toward scarcity and strictness. Education is delayed. Self-education will succeed over time (if the native lives long enough). Typical mistakes due to past-life karmic ignorance
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Shani is comfortable in the house of Chandra. No serious harm is done when Shani occupies the bhava of life's foundations, early education, and primary caretakers. It is generally good that routines, conventional behavior patterns, and predictable expectations should structure and support the childhood experience. Parents tend to be elder. The child is born when the parents have reached a (culturally relative) advanced age. One experiences one's parents as being 'older than normal'. As a result, the home life in childhood favors routine. The time schedule is important, calendars and 'deadlines' are emphasized, and the quality of early education is rather regimented and conventionalized.
Distrust of the parents, who become burdensome to the native due to their conservatism or ignorance. The early childhood home suffers from material scarcity or a persistent fear of being uprooted which penetrates the psychic environment. Trouble getting or keeping properties, a feeling of exhaustion from working very hard to maintain a property or possession but losing it in the end due to an underlying fear. The parents and early teachers are oppressive and less nurturing, more they understand their duty to enforce the law rather than cultivate childhood happiness. Despite filial devotion to duty the parents and local community are resistant to improvement. They may seem committed to the path of ignorance as an expression of historic tradition. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining financing (6) and bodily vitality (1) as well as prestige (10). Native must remain in their home base (4) because neither the physical energy (1) nor the loaned capital to expand their scope (6) are accessible. There is always a bright side to Shani aspects on dushthamsha houses, which restrict dealings with difficult people. This person is hard to please because Shani in 4 restricts emotional contendedness. If such a person is in your life don't take it personally... there's nothing an outsider can do to alleviate their internal oppression. When Shani aspects 6, money-lenders, thieves, apothecaries (6) and government officials (10) are kept away. Looks good, but this also means Resistance and delayto getting a mortgage for buying a house, being treated respectfully in public life, or receiving health care. Shani/4 folks lack a good home foundation (often absent mother) and expect to feel vulnerable, weak, ill, and unimportant. Emotionally and socially insecure. If Shani rules a good house then the sense of vulnerability might produce a good career in specialties of making others feel sheltered, such as teaching young children or regional political leadership. However the health and scarcity implications are always there. Better if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra |
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Shani in domain-5 Mesha (neechcha)
Vrishabha Mithuna Karkata Simha Kanya
Thula (uchcha) Vrischika
Dhanusha
Makara
Kumbha
Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 7, 11, and 2. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-5 Shani the Taskmaster functions best in Makara, Kumbha, and Thula. No Fun Allowed Shani in 5 is the very antidote to Surya's autocratic, confident, creative intelligence. When Shani occupies the natural house of games and entertainments, one general has very little amusement in life. Theatre, politics, and creative literature lose their pleasure quotient and instead become responsibilities of the working professional life.
One rarely experiences true autocracy; one rarely gets to do precisely what one wants to do. Social safety, and the interests of large corporations, institutions and governments must dominate the experience of creative performance. Much as one may love one's children, the child-raising style is tightly structured, children's activities create burdensome time schedules, and raising them to adulthood is a heavy responsibility. Performance Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the theatrical or political stage. Must work to earn validation of the individual genius. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not brilliant enough" syndrome. Perfectionism in Creative Pursuits Shani brings psychological perfectionism wherever He goes, and when He goes into the realm of performance arts (including child-raising) He brings a karmic emphasis on accomplishment and completion to that house. Perfectionism and very high standards toward children, romance, creativity, genius, performance arts, politics, gambling, games and amusements. May result in severe performance anxiety even when the native is sincerely gifted (Marilyn Monroe). The particular type of resisted amusement will be indicated by the rashi and any companion graha. "Resistance to amusement" results in the need to limit whatever "fun" is available in life to games, children, and genius expressed mainly in the context of work. The creative behaviors, such as they are, become highly structured. (Great for architects and design engineers.) Speculative developments in finance and investment, creative expressions in literature, theatre and politics, relationship to children, and emergence of knowledge of divine intelligence is fundamentally stubborn, responsible, conservative and slow. Ironically, the native is so busy working and carrying public responsibilities that there is no time to enjoy the entertainments and celebrations of life. Not a fun person to be around. Extremely conservative and responsible toward children. Children become a significant material responsibility. (If Shani is ill-disposed, children become a genuine burden.) Delay in producing children due to worry (Shani) about lack of TIME (Shani) to raise them. Love Romance, when it occurs, is oppressed by heavy material responsibilities and social obligations. Creativity may be expressed only in tightly controlled, socially validated channels. Good position for an architect, arts administrator, stage manager, theatrical planner and organizer. Benefits those who must carefully manage expressions of theatre, art, politics and children's creativity, in order to maintain conservative control over the forward path of human genius = an "intelligence functionary" who works within the socially approved system for regulating individual creative expression and speculative ventures. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of conditions supporting the literary, artistic, theatrical, political, philosophical and other speculative genius that spearhead the advance of civilization. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining agreement in marriage (7), community/ fruit-attainment (11), and the family lineage (2). Better results from a late or delayed marriage (due to Shani drishti on domain-7). Much preparation and applications of research toward profitable actions in the marketplace (11). Great effort expended in the task of educating oneself about world history. Work on cultural histories and ancient legacies of value (financial, philosophical, linguistic, musical, aesthetic), and the lineage record-keeping of one's people (2). Deep sense of responsibility for children. Better if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra |
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When Shani/5 brings good fortune: for Vrishabha and Mithuna lagna, Shani becomes lord of dharma bhava. For Vrishabha and Mithuna, Shani/5 creates a Dhana yoga that is generally auspicious not only for money but other varieties of wealth as well = L-9 in putra bhava. Generally distrust of children and artistic creativity. Negative expectations regarding the outcome of the child-conception, child-birth, and child-raising processes. Difficulty in conceiving children, or heavy expenses in their upbringing. Much physical and moral work involved in raising children, focused inordinately on discipline, inculcation of responsibility and reinforcement of routine. A sober and suspicious view of creativity in general, expressing an aesthetic preference for strict lines, austere forms, and cold space. Imposes the law of the majority upon the tastes of the minority. May be a gifted engineer or clean-up agent in environments where amusement , frivolity, or personal uniqueness have become overgrown. Bodes poorly for life's social relationships. Shani casts His harshest 3rd and 10th aspects upon marriage/agreements (7) and networks of friendships (11), plus the lesser but still troublesome 7th aspect upon speech, wealth, samskara (2). The common ground in most relationships is duty and work. (Naturally if there are beneficial graha in 2, 7, or 11 the situation may be relaxed.) One does not expect "lucky breaks", easy winnings, or happiness in romance. Negative expectations in these areas are generally met. Restricts access to supportive marriage partner, community, and birth family. This person does not expect to flower easily. They expect to carry the burden in marriage, community and family. Low permission levels "Fun" and easy good fortune charismatic self-expression, including children and creative works. Can prevent children entirely, but just as often will make children a major burden due to no help with child-raising from spouse (7), friends/community (11), or one's own birth family (2). |
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Shani in domain-6 Mesha
Vrishabha Mithuna Karkata
Simha Kanya Thula
Vrischika Dhanusha Makara
Kumbha Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 8, 12, and 3. See: Shani the Taskmaster functions best in Makara, Kumbha, and Thula. Shani imposes regulated vertical (Makara) and horizontal (Kumbha) systems. Shani in Domain-6 = medical, conflict-management, and social service ministry systems (military and medicine).
Argument Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding servitude. Must work to earn validation of the workplace efforts. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not serving enough" syndrome.
Resistance and delay toward animosity, debt, disease, argument, and social conflict.. The particular type of resisted conflict will be indicated by the rashi and any companion graha. One has the karmic obligation to deal with enemies and ideas, relationships, or objects that are inimical to the self.
The native is a hard worker who is busy carrying out service responsibilities. One is rarely a social justice reformer. Rather, one works within the existing social structure, as unjust as that regulated system may be.
Illness develops slowly
Shani in domain-6 works the socially approved systems of static social imbalance, chronic crime, and habitual exploitation. This configuration features a lifelong dedication to conflict management. May be perpetually involved in litigation and complaints of wrong-doing, whether as a law-maker, solicitor, social advocate, accuser, or party to the complaint. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of drug and medical technology distribution channels, law courts and legal offices, police and military installations and code of conduct, jails and medical clinics, social welfare systems, and every form of crime. The native displays a sober determination to accept imbalances and conflict as one finds them. One with Shani in domain-6 works within the system which perpetuates social injustice. Specifically NOT a karaka for eliminating or fundamentally changing the imbalances that one can perceive in personal relationships, society, or nature. Shani in domain-6 conforms to the reality of conflict and accepts the fact of imbalance, working to make only small and socially acceptable changes in the big picture. Excellent for trial attorneys, social workers, medical professions, writers and observers of social reality, police/military, and unassuming people everywhere. Profession Shani in favorable rashi = Karaka for a physician who manages disease, a divorce lawyer or marriage counselor who manages relationship conflict, police or military who manage social conflict, bank loan officer who manages financial insufficiency and indebtedness. Mother Teresa offers a splendid example of "extreme" neechcha Shani in domain-6. Her famous commitment to serve the ostracized and destitute at their time of death was characterized by her fierce refusal to demand changes in the larger social system. Her mission was often criticized for its staunch acceptance of social inequalities which many perceived to be the cause of terrible poverty and disease of her beneficiaries. Yet the Mother's did not perceive her duty to lie in anything more abstract or complex than the simple act of providing a death with dignity. Shani in domain-6 does NOT work to "change the system". Shani = work and hierarchies; domain-6 = service and health. Shani in domain-6 approaches hierarchies of good and hierarchies of evil with equal respect. Shani is not a pioneer or a change-agent. Shani accommodates the social laws and customs which are in place at the time of the incarnation. Shani's interest first and foremost is the native's own security, established via one's rank and position in one's chosen hierarchy. Thus Shani in domain-6 will normally find a titled position within a profession, ideally supported by a large and well-defended hierarchy. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining agreements in relationship to In-laws (8). Pressure on mental health/courage (3) and inner peace/prayer (12) due to a sense of scarcity of resources, most importantly not enough time. Shani drishti from a negative sthana of domain-6, upon three negative sthana of domains 3, 8 and 12, has the fortunate effect of reduce-and-delay upon frenetic mentality (3), sudden forced changes (8), and loss of identity within the private imagination (12). In youth, this native is restless and frustrated, seeking the company of vulgar associates and engaged in labor of servitude. In maturity, the native may come to understand one's karmic obligation to endure the dissolution of equality in relationships and the breakdown of contractual agreements. The mature native may be able to express the wisdom of Seva: to serve in the interest of compassion, with neutrality toward the lack of equity in one's material reward. Communications
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Suspicious and distrustful of servants, physicians, police, and social workers. General dislike and negative expectations of social welfare systems and public health services. Shani in a strong rashi (Thula, Makara, Kumbha) executes the Law toward the disagreeable, the sick, and the exploited, signifying responsibility for professional engagement with the great imbalances of life. The native may serve those with chronic problems in roles such as physician, attorney, or minister to the underclass. Health, physical and emotional Ironically, a distrust of doctors is often the key to lifelong health, and the native may completely avoid iatrogenic disease (sickness caused by physicians, medicines, and medical treatments) by aversion to the medical trade. Nevertheless, Shani brings a personal karma of health problems, mainly to manifest in elder years or during mahadasha of Shani, dictated by the rashi of Shani. Mesha gives head-brain conditions (often a chronic headache); Vrishabha jaw-neck-teeth, Mithuna arms-lungs, Karkata stomach-glandular, Simha heart, Kanya intestines-digestion, Thula kidneys-pancreas, Vrischika sexual-urinary, Dhanau hips-sacral, Makara bones-knees, Kumbha nerves-skin, Meena feet-lymph. In particular, sexual-emotional relationships become problematic as Shani enforces static imbalance in marital agreements. Appearance of chronic, repeating disagreements which are never resolved but become integrated into the fabric of marriage. These chronic complaints do not destroy the marriage unless Shani is L-7, in which case the prospect of a lasting marriage is dim. Conflict Similarly, keeping a suspicious distance from police and military agents can result in avoidance of confrontation. The native suffers very little oppression from agencies of conflict suppression, and one will in general stay out of the offices of litigious attorneys as well. One is engaged in chronic and habitual conflicts, usually those related to class structures or large-scale social customs, but one is not personally subject to exploitation or abuse by police unless other graha instigate personal involvement. "Bad planet in bad house gives good results." Good house for Shani! Reduces, slows, impedes all dushthamshas - which is a good thing! This person is one tough cookie. Not scared of enemies, debt, or disease. The native must work hard in this life on problems of a habitual, structurally embedded, and intractable nature. Very hard worker with a pragmatic and sober view of entrenched social conflict. One does not waste time looking for someone else to do their work for them or blame for mistakes. Deals perseveringly with the social underclass, environmental polluters, thieves, drug dealers and drug addicts, poverty and the poor, finance/usury/illegal monies/pyramid schemes. Negative expectations of police and military, accusatory litigation, corrupt officials, criminals and habitual cycles of victimization. These negative expectations are not disappointed! Mental health is good Emotional "Stress" in modern life is said to me measured by the gap between psychological expectation and material performance. Shani in domain-6 shows the appropriate match between expectations (fixed negative) and reality (also fixed, negative). Shani-6 produces a very small opportunity for disappointment, which predicts low stress levels in life overall. Shani-6 is generally a good-to-neutral indicator of sober but stable mental health, since the native is working with known problems toward which society generally encourages its members to have low expectations of resolution. Conflict and disagreement, illness and exploitation, are famously bad aspects of the human condition which the native with Shani-6 meets with a very reasonable set of negative expectations. The end result is a lifetime of practical, and potentially high-paying work (6 = 9th-from-10th) toward which work the native takes a dedicated but rather impersonal view. Rarely disappointed by the poor behavior of others. Never shocked by selfishness, indecency, criminal acts etc. Often rises to respected position in organizations that handle accusations of wrong-doing or matters of the underclass (crime/poverty/illness) or chronic disease conditions. In maturity, earns respect due to one's senior experience in medicine, law, or finance. Social service work, overly constrained by pressure to conform to the standards of the lowest-common-denominator. Karma obliges the native to work in conditions of static imbalance within medicine, finance, or enforcement of law. Domain-6 is the relative 12th-house for marriage, so the spouse may be closed-minded about sexual expression or the native may not wish to articulate one's private desires and dreams within marriage. Association with prostitution, but perhaps in a clinical social service role. This native deals with one's own sickness, accepts exhaustion, deterioration and heavy workload, then in maturity shows others the basic rules of health/illness. Showing others what they learned ,through exhausting repetition and failure of alternatives, is the source of their later-life respect. Better if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra Das/Behari says: ... sexual problems. Sex will be a very unorthodox kind of experience for you, but out of it there may arise a realization of your spiritual nature. Deprivation of a normal sex life ... a tendency towards bizarre or unusual relationships enables you to secure special gifts from unexpected and unknown quarters which remove many personal difficulties. You may not always succeed in relating these two events, but both are impelled by Saturn. You are not necessarily attracted towards an unusual expression of sexuality, but the problem of sex affects your mental body vitally ... in some peculiar manner reveals the mysterious aspects of human motivation. For better or worse, your personal life is vitally affected by these experiences. You may suffer from some physical ailment without expressing your pain to others. Doctors may not succeed in treating you easily. Despite such personal anguish and sorrow, you enjoy great renown and social esteem. You may have trouble and hindrances in early life. No help or support from any quarter. Much criticism. Little gain after much labor and effort. Trouble for maternal uncles and aunt. Gain through some income or employment. Premature retirement due to sickness. Economic hardships in old age. Wealth, authority and fame do not come all together. You have to pass through many ailments beyond your control due to privation and want or neglect leading to sorrows and disappointments. Loss or trouble through attendants and menials; animals, accidents and operations, indigestion, circulatory problems, debility, diabetes or venereal diseases. Brave and intelligent, powerful, fortunate, with plenty of pleasures, jewelry and conveyance, learned, rich and happy, free from enemies, favorite of the government, loving spouse and lucky sons. You have few relatives and brethren; annihilates your enemies; growing wealth. Blessed with some income or employment. Trouble through maternal uncles. You are not scared of thieves, a strong controversialist and combatant. Gain through quadruped. Known all over. Most generous, prosperous but not without some trouble. Fond of merit; noble, protector, with good appetite, strong and healthy. Recognized by the enemies. Blessed with sons. Respect for the learned. Sensual, can face heavy odds. Plenty of attendants and followers. |
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Shani in domain-7 Mesha
Vrishabha Mithuna
Karkata Simha Kanya Thula
Vrischika Dhanusha
Makara Kumbha Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 9, 1, and 4. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-7
Contract Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding agreements and unions. Must work to earn validation of the alliances. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not equal enough" syndrome. Better results should be predicted if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra. = a legal functionary who works the socially approved system of contracts and alliances. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of systems of negotiation and arbitration, marriage and partnership arrangements, counseling and advising, crafting of alliances and treaties, and balancing mechanisms at every level of reality. The attitude toward marriage contract, business partnership, agreements and the negotiating process is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Native's marriage or life union requires sacrifice and personal discipline. Supports marriage to an older, socially conservative, rather plain, conventional, simple, or hardworking person. Much resistance, constraint and difficulty in things marital. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining the blessings of wisdom/father (9) and security/mother (4) via the full 3/10 aspects whilst casting the 75% aspect upon body image/self (1). Shani in domain-7 harms ALL of life's fundamental -childhood relationships of mother-father-self. Traditionally, for females:
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Distrust and suspicion toward the spouse, who may hail from a lower social class and whose equality to oneself seems doubtful. Dislike of the constraints of marriage, but these are grudgingly accepted in exchange for conjugal pleasures. The spouse is ignorant or intractable. In rashis of Shani, Shukra, or Budha, a deeper acceptance of the value of stability which is stronger than the oppressive constraint. In rashi of Guru, Kuja, or Surya, extreme Resistance and delayto the contractual bond, feeling of servitude to the spouse, or of being chained to someone below one's own status who suffers bad habits. Shani has special directional strength (dik bala) in house-7, but this "strength" is really His power to build character through endurance tests in marriage! The native has no expectation of unconditional love from mother, father, or self. S/he becomes a duty-performer, focused exclusively on conditional love/admiration from the broader society through role playing and material achievements. Minimal inspired love in the marriage, yet plenty of respect for a dignified partner who can follow the rules of committed partnership. Good material success due to dedication and work ethic of the partner. Emotionally it may be unbearably materialistic and duty-oriented, unless yuvati bhava receives softening drishti from a friendly graha. |
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Shani in domain-8 Mesha
Vrishabha
Mithuna
Karkata
Simha Kanya Thula Vrischika Dhanusha
Makara Kumbha
Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 10, 2, and 5. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-8 "To keep company with those whom they do not like and to be separated from those whom they like as also to deal with the wicked is the agony which people with long life have to suffer."~~ Mahabharata, Vana Parva, 193.18 Shani the Taskmaster functions best in Makara, Kumbha, and Thula. Catastrophe Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding the sudden emergence of unknown forces. Must work to earn validation of the transformation. Works to be fully approved, in compliance, and judged perfect under the rule of human law. Yet survival fears based in past-life karma enforce the mandate to perform this work over and over again, until the ignorance is transformed into wisdom. "Not reborn enough" syndrome. Shani in domain-8 gives significant resistance to the deepest levels of self-destruction and rebirth, which results in greater longevity for the current incarnation. Better results should be predicted if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra. The attitude toward catastrophic change and secret, unpredictable upheavals is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Karma of handling Other People's Money. Requires a steady acceptance of hidden and mysterious financial transactions. The native is rather obliged to participate in schemes which may involve bribery and money-laundering. The in-laws of the first marriage are impoverished, ignorant, or their circumstances are much constrained by fear due to a strict and unforgiving regime (fear of punishment by religious, political, or family culture laws). Neechcha Shani in 8 delivers the karma of a notably dysfunctional in-law group.
The first spouse will contribute much less wealth into the coffers of the joint assets of marriage than the native will contribute. = an emergency-management functionary who works the system of secret information, intuitive healing, and catastrophic change. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani) toward the maintenance of systems of emergency response to catastrophic events, transformative healings under forced circumstances, secret initiations, management of hidden information, and the mystery schools. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining leadership prestige (10) and speculative luck/personal charisma (5) while also damaging wealth (2). Raising children is a heavy responsibility, and children cause concern throughout life. Imposes a heavy responsibility for using one's tantric awareness (magic, worldview shifts, psychic healing) and deployment of confidential information, in this life (8). The native bears a heavy burden of secret knowledge, and if Shani is strong one becomes a governing agent in times of catastrophic change. |
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Overall, "a bad planet in a bad house" i.e. a malefic graha in a dushthamsha house, has some good implications. Shani/8 indicates a long lifespan and duties with surgery or medical emergencies. Often suffers catastrophic change requiring medical intervention. The native is blocked from access to magic or deep therapeutic change of any kind. Stores emotional pain in the physical body, and is forced therefore to deal with much physical trauma. Damages natural powers of rejuvenation; the person looks older than they are. Duty-oriented response to trauma is limited to caretaking and structural support;. V cannot explore the damage thus healing powers are restrained. There are benefits to restricting the occult implications and ego-destructive capabilities of the 8th house. The native is pragmatic in managing the conditions of death, does not fear death, and usually offers technical service in some transformative environment such as a healing center without being personally healed. If in business will make much profit for others without gaining themselves. No doubt they are somewhat nervous about the power of magic due to negative experiences in past lives. Permission to heal others but not oneself. Karmic trouble-spots include reduced spousal contribution to the joint assets of marriage and a negative or non-helpful experience of the partner's family (in-laws) who will hail from a lower social class than the native. Enjoyment of social prestige (10), wealth (2) and children/charm/amusements/speculation (5) will be limited. Even if other planets give high intelligence, the native is tied to a practical, positivistic worldview which means very little spontaneous miracle in this life. Benefits include a strong work ethic and willingness to take the lion's share of responsibility in partnerships. Oppresses the joint assets of partnership. Spouse contributes relatively little to the joint wealth. If good wealth yogas exist the native may build his own wealth the old-fashioned way, by hard work, and lots of it. Saturn eliminates the short-cuts to wealth but He rewards solid labor. Reduces permission for transformative change in this life; will be a hard worker but not willing to accept magical change. Das says:
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Shani in domain-9 Mesha Vrishabha Mithuna Karkata Simha Kanya
Thula Vrischika Dhanusha Makara
Kumbha Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 11, 3, and 6. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-9
Wisdom Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding philosophical and religious teachings and teachers.
"Not wise enough" syndrome. Better results should be predicted if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra. The attitude toward the father, ceremonial religion, the guru, universities, professors, and religious teachings is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Resistance and delaytoward wisdom, the guru and the father, religious teachings, ceremonies and rituals, and university culture. The particular type of resisted wisdom will be indicated by the rashi and any companion graha. Ironically, the native is so busy working that there is no time to acquire spiritual wisdom. (Even in the noble case of Swami Vivekananda, his religious teaching duties on the material plane were so ominous that he lacked permission to reach the higher levels of personal meditative awareness and material detachment. His time was taken by material responsibilities to the worldwide seekers of wisdom. He could not abandon his work in order to pursue his own spiritual interests.) Grandchildren
= a religious functionary who works the socially approved system of philosophical beliefs and liturgical process. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani the worker) toward the maintenance of temples for religious worship, ritual practice, sacred scholarship, universities, and philosophical associations. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining gainfulness. Shani delays or restricts friendship and marketplace associations (11). Beneficial for restraining enemies (6) but also prevents or forces great discipline upon the mental processes esp. communications. Restrains courage (3) delays but does not prevent income (11) and reduces animosity (6) . In general, forces patience. Lots of trouble with enemies, debts, and disease during Shani periods, but this trouble is resolved through following the human law codes, workplace policies, and being neutral and modest. All good results from Shani must wait for the fullness of time, but drishti of malefic to dusthamsha is beneficial. In general, Shani in domain-9 is a good position, because Shani drishti - the aspect of limitation and constraint - affects only "upachaya" houses. Upachaya houses *improve with time*. Therefore Shani in domain-9 is difficult for a young person, but Shani will give quite good results with Maturity. |
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When Shani/9 brings good fortune: for Thula and Kanya lagna, Shani becomes lord of putra bhava. For Thula and Kanya, Shani/9 creates a Dhana yoga that is generally auspicious not only for money but other varieties of wealth as well = L-5 in dharma bhava. Shani/9 can also be auspicious for Mesha and Meena lagna for which Shani = L-11; the eleventh lord in the ninth creates a dhana yoga. Similar to Shani-in-6 but less immediately favorable. Shani in dharma bhava is reduces prosperity due to Shani's constrain-and-delay drishti upon the 11th house of gains/income. Sober realism in matters of priestly education and ritual religion can produce a distrust of ceremonial pomp and resistance to self-serving displays of religious piety. Yet the native is quite able to appreciate the value of structured human-to-divine communication (9) and one gains a pragmatic knowledge of how to serve the people's need for connection to their gods. Psychologically, one bears a deep tendency toward anxiety and worry about the authenticity of religious teachings, which is due to blockage upon access to the conventional socio-religious apparatus. The native is sincere in life, but karmic inheritance of ideas about material laws which emphasize scarcity (Shani) in place of abundance (Guru) and physical hard work (Shani) in place of faith and wisdom (Guru) can restrain overall prosperity no matter how much effort the native invests in his duties. The trick is to develop a pragmatic faith based not on blind trust in childlike imaginings (Guru) but rather to appreciate the "the Lord helps them what helps themselves" -- in a sense, to meet the Divine half-way. Past-life resistance to faith is generally based in having placed one's trust in outside religious structures, authorities, or belief systems and suffering the effects of the weakness caused by investing faith outside oneself. Having faith in oneself and one's own efforts is exactly the same thing as having faith in the Divine, since the Divine is within and not without. Locating the source of faith within oneself, without regard to external religious behavior and belief systems, yet continuing in conformist religious practice, is actually the best route to relieving the worry and anxiety about whether God will really help one in times of need. The answer is yes, one will always be supported through the internal partnership of human and divine. But when Shani occupies the house of ceremonial religion, one is constrained to conformist practice in the outer appearance, and the Divine does not appear to be "customized" to one's own life circumstances. Looking for God in external religion, one may not see the accurate reflection of one's own self in ritual and legacy belief systems. It may appear to be nothing more than "the opiate of the people" as Karl Marx so piquantly wrote. But underneath the superficial and conformist religious systems there is a layer of permanent and unbreakable connection between human and divine, and this layer is the place where the native with Shani in domain-9 must begin to develop faith. This is faith in the power not of ritual but in the power of one's own mind. The mind is inherently wise, and the Structure of communication between human and divine is built into the human design. That channel which carries the communication between human and divine, the channel of wisdom, realization, and faith, is always present and functioning in the mind of each person. When Shani occupies the house of religion, the native is not impressed by external displays of piety. However, to avoid the negative consequences of anxiety and worry due to lack of trust in divine support, one must invest in the power of the subconscious mind to evoke the wealth-bringing and wellness-ensuring "Channel 9". Shani in domain-9, when properly appreciated, cuts out much of the baloney of organized religion and forces the native into a pragmatic and true faith in a personal religion not controlled by priests or cultural baggage. Although worry and anxiety are not a fun reason to pursue the development of true faith, the results for wealth, wisdom, and life abundance can be very good - over time - with Shani in 9. Marketplace associations are slowed but not denied; steady income through patient, conservative market behaviors and personal effort. Not a marketplace maverick. Tends to prefer working as a salaried ('salt pay') employee rather than take risks with the income flow. Upstream/downstream relationships are blocked; you don't get connected (easily) to the people who can help you get what you want. The father/guru has low standing which makes connections, courage, problem-solving (6) all under-resourced. Saturnian drishti upon the dusthamsha houses 3 and 6 is helpful. Shani drishti restricts the impact of mental confusion through excessive wordiness (3) and karmic resistance from enemies (6). Yet the native is sometimes too cautious in undertakings (risk-averse Shani!) and too aware of the ever-present negative underbelly of human behavior (6). Shani/9 = a good and sincere person who suffers lack of faith, due to lack of qualified religious/moral guidance as a child. The father is absent or distant. Major trust issues in divine communication channel (Channel 9) - but like all Shani matters these are resolved through maturation. Shani provides the wisdom of practical, material - Over Time. |
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Shani in Karma Bhava - House 10 Shani in His own natural house Mesha Vrishabha
Mithuna
Karkata Simha
Kanya Thula
Vrischika Dhanusha Makara Kumbha Meena S.A. Pres. Nelson Mandela
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Parashari drishti to domains: 12, 4, and 7. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-10
Better results should be predicted if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra. The attitude toward public respectability and professional recognition is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Leadership Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding responsibility for imposing a lawful environment
"Not respected enough" syndrome. Heavy public responsibilities. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining recognition in public positions. Strict adherence to public codes of conduct is required. Delays or prevents access to sanctuary protection/ ashrama or research lab/libraries (12) ; heavy work and responsibilities in foreign lands. Limits settlement or security of family home because the native must move frequently for his work (4). Delays marriage; but supports marriage to a plain, simple, or older person (7). Shani's natural houses, domain-10 and domain-11, are the least problematic locations for Shanaicharya's hard-working and determined behaviors. Shani always takes time (sometimes a loooong time) but in the end Shani gives stable position in public leadership roles. Much depends on the rashi and location of the ruling graha, but in generally speaking, Shani's tasks are somewhat easier to complete in Karma Bhava and Labha Bhava. There is a tremendous amount of forced socializing and a huge duty roster in domain-10 and domain-11, but also usually also a large organization to support one's efforts. |
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= an executive functionary who works the socially approved system of organizational leadership and government. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani the worker) toward the maintenance of executive powers, official duties, leadership roles and positions, and iconic symbolism. Casting His harshest 3rd and 10th aspects upon the protection/temple house (12) and marriage/partnerships (7), plus the lesser but still troublesome 7th aspect upon home/security (4). Some dignity through public responsibility, but makes that responsibility very challenging to carry out because the person has neither shelter of meditation nor shelter of home/emotional security nor easy partnerships. Every action demands detailed consideration, with little help from others. This person was raised with early responsibilities and unreliable supporters; as adults they believe that "if it is going to be done right I have to do it myself". By damaging the shelter/sanctuary of 12/4/7 and forcing the person to be on-duty so much, Shani/10 makes a highly competent manager but reduces the long-term leadership trajectory. Dignified but very demanding, and rarely receives full recognition for their considerable efforts. |
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Shani in Labha Bhava - House 11 Shani in His own house Mesha [neechcha]
Vrishabha Mithuna
Karkata
Simha
Kanya Thula Vrischika
Dhanusha Makara Kumbha Meena
Carol Wojlyta Pope John Paul II Mrs. Barbara Bush
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Parashari drishti to domains: 1, 5, and 8. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-11 Better results should be predicted if Shani occupies a rashi of Shani, Shukra, or Budha. Better with any type of support from Shukra. The attitude toward earnings and profits, setting and accomplishing goals, social and material networking, and conceptual science, is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Achievement Anxiety. Fear and worry regarding gain of income and attainment of goals.
"Not well-connected enough" syndrome. Restrains athletic energies, reduces vitality, and imposes social conformity upon the self-image (1). Reduces the contribution of spouse/partners toward the pool of shared marital assets (8). Limits the number of children, imposes responsibilities toward children, may delay the birth of children. Constrains the natural charisma and disciplines the creative intelligence (5). Shani's natural houses, domain-10 and domain-11, are the least problematic locations for Shanaicharya's hard-working and determined behaviors. Much depends on the rashi and location of the ruling graha, but generally speaking, Shani's tasks are somewhat easier to complete in Karma Bhava and Labha Bhava. Much discipline imposed on the natural intelligence, which results in restraint of natural creativity. Shani imposes a significant duty roster in domain-10 and domain-11, but Shani also usually also provides a large organization within which one is tasked to accomplish the karmic work. Catastrophic change of randhra bhava is slowed and delayed. This is beneficial for maintenance of material stability, but not as helpful for sincerely desired transformations such as healing through therapeutic touch, psychological counseling on hidden matters, or surgical medicine. If Shani is strong, the personality and intelligence are disciplined and patient with regard to learning secret information. The native may be well suited to be a student of esoteric or secret healing structures. All good results from Shani must wait for the fullness of time, but drishti of malefic to dusthamsha domain-8 is generally beneficial. |
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When Shani/11 brings wealth: for Dhanusha and Makara lagna, Shani becomes lord of dhana bhava. For Dhanusha and Makara, Shani creates a Dhana yoga = L-2 in labha bhava. Distrust and suspicion of the marketplace rules, dislike of the salaried lifestyle, trouble finding a profitable means of operating in the marketplace of goods and ideas. Network of Friends and elder sibling in particular are conservative to the point of oppression. Nevertheless Shani gives reasonably good results in the house of earnings and achievements, since Shani is the agent of Hard Work and Hard Work is a considerable asset in the pursuit of Earnings! The network of friendship is stable but of limited utility in advancing the native's gainfulness. One must do the majority of one's own work with rather less than "a little help from one's friends". The native may not grasp the concept of "work smarter not harder". Tends to be rather stubborn and traditional in one's approach toward earning income. Good position for government workers and those in control of regulatory agencies, especially the regulation of economic behaviors. Native = a marketplace functionary who works the socially approved system of interlocking communities and commercial networking. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani the worker) toward the maintenance of large gatherings and assemblies, fraternal organizations, and technology for connectivity at all levels of reality. Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining a good relationship with one's in-laws (8). Initially they are absent or unhelpful. The spouse brings less value to the joint assets of marriage. Limited access to secrets or confidential information, including healing knowledge. Disciplined labor of the physical body. One has less physical vitality, range of motion or range of personality is restricted. Children if present are more of a burden. This is a hard-working person who gains only modestly. Limited fortunes. Although he works very hard to develop "connections" his charisma is weak (5). |
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Shani in Vyaya Bhava - House 12 Shani in natural house of Guru Mesha [neechcha] Vrishabha Mithuna
Karkata Simha
Kanya Thula
Vrischika Dhanusha Makara Kumbha Meena
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Parashari drishti to domains: 2, 6, and 9. See: dealing with the negative expectations of Shani in domain-12
The attitude toward dreams and spiritual guidance across the bridge from material to astral is fundamentally stubborn, persistent, conservative and slow. Drishti upon 2
Drishti upon 6
Drishti upon 9
Shani in 12 gives separation, resistance, delay, and negation private matters. There is a great frustration and feeling of a heavy workload regarding clandestine foreign diplomacy (Dwight D. Eisenhower , Napoleon Bonaparte, Angelina Jolie ) or bedroom secrets (Oprah Winfrey) or meditation and private prayer. One may bear significant responsibilities for dealing with sequestered identity-loss environments such as boarding schools and orphanages (Angelina Jolie); concentration camps and prisons (Dwight D. Eisenhower ); monasteries and places of banishment (Napoleon Bonaparte ). Shani in Vyaya bhava denies the utility of meditation, private prayer, astrology and dreams. Shani wants all attention to be focused on matters of immediate material survival. He brooks no waste of time on imaginary or clairsentient information. Shani resists engagement with the traffic on the bridge between the astral plane (subconscious) and the material plane (conscious). Often the native with Shani in 12 does not dream, or does not remember one's dreams. Hospitals and healing sanctuaries are of no use to this native, who sleeps little and understands less about the astral component of the human body and its needs. Shani in 12 also contributes to the dissolution of the material plane identity. Shani's heavy work habits and habit of worrying about survival tend to siphon off the vitality from the animal, blood-fed, muscular body and transmit the life-force back into the dream world. As a result Shani becomes associated with losses. Due to Shani's subconsciously driven survival anxiety, the two domains which are ruled by Shani in 12 will get drained of it materialization empowerment. Transit
Oppresses values from family of origin (2), constrains the health (6), and skeptical of father / guru / priests (9). Shani in domain-12 = an identity-loss functionary who works the socially approved system of sanctuaries, enclosures, monasteries, prisons, and dream-state realities. This person must apply sustained effort with limited resources (Shani the worker) toward the maintenance of protected enclosure spaces such as convents and monasteries, prisons and concentration camps, hospitals and asylums, ashrams and dormitories, libraries and research laboratories, and all the world's imaginative dream space. |
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Some difficulties or maturation required before obtaining Wealth (2) due to restricted values transmission through the birth-family culture. (If domain-4 is strong this can be reversed through the discipline of formal education.) Religion may be rejected, no expectation of help from deities or priests (9). No confidence in borrowed money, fear of usury (6). This person is chained to their fantasies and often immoral, due to the limits on values and religion plus a realistic tolerance for exploitation and power imbalance (6). Good for work as prison-guard, manager of sanctuary or ashram, hospital professions, and those who handle foreigners or restricted-access visitors. They will cover up immoral actions nicely through "loss" of public visibility since the 12th is an occult, shadowy house. |
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"Progress comes by maintaining constant effort in daily practice." ~~ H.H. Dalai Lama. (1997). A Policy of Kindness: An Anthology of Writings By and About the Dalai Lama Compiled and edited by Sidney Piburn, foreword by Sen. Claiborne Pell. www.snowlionpub.com |
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