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Shani-Mangala combinations

Saturn's Jyotisha yoga with Mars


Release vs. Control

Mangala = Animal, Youth, Attack, Advance, Freedom, Dynamic, Confrontational, Innovation, Movement 

versus 

Shani = Mineral, Maturity, Retreat, Delay, Law, Static, Conformist, Tradition, Safety, Continence


Shani and Mangala have two different friendship relationships:

  • Shani views Kuja as his direct enemy.

  • Kuja views Shani as a neutral.


~~ BPHS, Ch. 246, Shloka 1

"Should 

  • Mars and Saturn exchange their Rashis or Navamshas, 

  • be in fateful degrees (of those Rashis occupied by them), 

  • and are placed in Kendras (from Lagna)

the native's death will be through sovereign wrath or by being impaled by a spear or some such killing weapons. "


Movement vs. Order

One of the perpetual core dynamics in human life is the ongoing tension between individual freedom of movement (Mars) and the rule of law that guarantees basic protections of life, liberty, and property (Saturn).  

  • Western social philosophy has been focused on this dynamic since Plato.

  • Kant, Hegel, and Marx all have a lot to say about it. 

  • The British political philosophical tradition of Hobbes, Burke, and Mill explores this perpetual tension in great detail.   

Shani is much more threatened by Kuja than Kuja by Shani.

  • The Jyotisha planetary-friendship rules indicate a basic reality of human life. 

  • A physically strong person can override the boundaries of social law and custom rather easily.  Strong-willed, dynamically energized criminals or rebellious individuals who have little regard for Law can pose serious threats to social stability.

  •  Martian individuals themselves are not overly impressed by the rule of law and order, and tend not to pay much attention to social authority.  Thus Shani's hierarchical control laws are not threatening enough for Kuja to consider Shani a serious enemy.  But Shani is quite scared of Angaraka!

Friends and Enemies of Shani = Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Law?

  • In addition to Mangala, Shani's other Enemies are those who transcend social law by choosing the path less traveled: the spiritual truth-seekers = rational Sun and intuitive-perceptive Moon. 

  • Shani's social stability agenda is however nicely supported by His friends = the pleasure-seekers Shukra & Budha, who strive not for truth but rather sensuality and mental distraction. 

  • Shani = neutral toward the all-accepting wise Guru.


Each individual will experience the tension between oppressive social control and individual freedom of movement, in a different way.  The Jyotisha relationship between Shani and Mangala reveals how much and what kind of burdens, duties and obligations the native has chosen to endure in this lifetime versus what quantity and quality of physical, sexual, and commercial freedom the native might be permitted.  

The key contrast is always "restriction" of Shani versus "movement" of Kuja. Restrictions are often beneficial, providing safety and discipline.  Movements are often dangerous, allowing aggression and exploitation - especially war.  

Both Shani and Mangala are malefics, but Shani is not destructive the way Mangala is.  Shani impedes, restrains, oppresses, and resists - but Shani does not kill or "mangle".


When Shani and Mangala enter a harmonious relationship (such as parivartamsha yoga), the good result is harnessing of personal energies by voluntary discipline.  

The native foregoes both short-term freedom and short-term security, preferring the longer-term benefits of conscious self-regulation.  True freedom and true security are both achieved, through personal sacrifice of time and energy on the physical level.

Parivartamsha yoga for Shani & Kuja occurs only in 4 cases:

  1. Shani = Mesha / Kuja = Makara 

  2. Shani = Mesha / Kuja = Kumbha

  3. Shani = Vrischika / Kuja = Makara 

  4. Shani = Vrischika / Kuja = Kumbha


When Shani and Mangala directly conflict (as in mutual aspect) primitive human selfishness and constraining systems of social conformity make the native both aggressive and oppressed.  

Mutual aspect is a frequent occurrence, having 24 occasions.  

Chara rashi aspects chara rashi; sthira rashi aspects sthira rashi; dwishva-bhava aspects dwishva-bhava rashis. 

The fact that these troublesome mutual aspects are quite commonplace tells us something about human beings, who tend to run a goodly amount of aggression and oppression, in their psychic space.  

Be on the lookout for these difficult combinations which suggest either excess restlessness (Mars overpowers Shani) or excess stability in the form of oppression or repression (Shani overwhelms Mars):

  1. Shani = Mesha / Kuja = Thula

  2. Shani = Mesha / Kuja = Makara

  3. Shani = Vrishabha / Kuja = Vrischika

  4. Shani = Vrishabha / Kuja = Kumbha

  5. Shani = Mithuna / Kuja = Dhanau

  6. Shani = Mithuna / Kuja = Meena

  7. Shani = Karka / Kuja = Markara

  8. Shani = Karka / Kuja = Mesha

  9. Shani = Simha / Kuja = Kumbha

  10. Shani = Simha / Kuja = Vrishabha

  11. Shani = Kanya / Kuja = Meena

  12. Shani = Kanya / Kuja = Mithuna

  13. Shani = Thula / Kuja = Mesha

  14. Shani = Thula / Kuja = Karka

  15. Shani = Vrischika / Kuja = Vrishabha

  16. Shani = Vrischika / Kuja = Simha

  17. Shani = Dhanau / Kuja = Mithuna

  18. Shani = Dhanau / Kuja = Kanya

  19. Shani = Makara / Kuja = Karkata

  20. Shani = Makara / Kuja = Thula

  21. Shani = Kumbha / Kuja = Simha

  22. Shani = Kumbha / Kuja = Vrischika

  23. Shani = Meena / Kuja = Kanya

  24. Shani = Meena / Kuja = Dhanau


Let us walk through the angular relationships of Shani and Kuja to see how the balance between safety and movement, order and competition, lawful restriction and personal instinct, might operate in the life of an individual being, from the rashi point of view.  

Each of these yogas will develop a more complex character when set in the context of different janma-lagnas and Chandra-lagnas. These are just the skeleton effects.

  1. Shani in Mesha vis-à-vis Mangala

  2. Shani in Vrishabha vis-à-vis Mangala

  3. Shani in Mithuna vis-à-vis Mangala

  4. Shani in Karkata vis-à-vis Mangala

  5. Shani in Simha vis-à-vis Mangala

  6. Shani in Kanya vis-à-vis Mangala

  7. Shani in Thula vis-à-vis Mangala

  8. Shani in Vrischika vis-à-vis Mangala

  9. Shani in Dhanau vis-à-vis Mangala

  10. Shani in Makara vis-à-vis Mangala

  11. Shani in Kumbha vis-à-vis Mangala

  12. Shani in Meena vis-à-vis Mangala


~~ B.V. Raman, A Catechism of Astrology. p. 30:

"Q. 37

What is the effect of the mutual aspect of the two great malefics Saturn and Mars? 

Do they indicate violence

Does it make any difference if Saturn is the lord of 1?


Ans. 

No such general rule can be given. It depends on the position and ownership of the aspecting planets.

Saravali ascribes the following results:

  1. When Saturn occupies Aries or Scorpio and is aspected by Mars, the native will injure innocent animals, will be a leader of goondas (niffians), will be addicted to drink and women but he will also be famous (Khyatha).

  2. When Saturn occupies Taurus or Libra aspected by Mars, the native will be fond of warlike stories and will cowardly in the battlefield, and will be a braggart.

  3. When Saturn occupies Gemini or Virgo and is aspected by Mars, he will be obstinate, will be awkward in form and appearance, will be attacked by fits, and will carry others' burden."

  4. When Saturn occupies Cancer and is aspected by  Mars, he will become rich through royal or divine favor, will be maimed in physique , will have wealth, servants and ornaments and will be fond of bad relations and women.

  5. When Saturn occupies Leo and is aspected by  Mars, he will be an itinerant and ungrateful, will be thievish, will frequent hilly places or forest or forts, will be without wife or children.

  6. When Saturn occupies Sagittarius or Pisces,  and is aspected by  Mars, he will be attacked by severe gout, will be despised by people, will live in foreign countries, and will be miserly and poor.

  7. When Saturn occupies Capricorn or Aquarius, and is aspected by  Mars, he will be warlike, will be famous and adventurous and will be a leader of men.


  1. Similarly when Mars occupies Aries or Scorpio and Saturn aspects [Mars] same, he will be weak, will be devoid of followers or relations, will marry another wife.

  2. When Mars occupies Taurus or Libra and Saturn aspects same, he will be happy, famous, rich, learned, and will be a leader of men.

  3. When Mars occupies Gemini or Virgo and  is aspected by Saturn, he will be an agriculturist, employed in mining, will be an itinerant, will be an occupant of hilly places and forts, will be poor, dirty and miserable

  4. When Mars occupies Cancer and  is aspected by Saturn, he will be a navigator, poor, beautiful, and engaged in princely trades.

  5. When Mars occupies Leo  and  is aspected by Saturn, he will be prematurely old, poor, will be living in others' houses, and will be unhappy.

  6. When Mars occupies Sagittarius or Pisces and  is aspected by Saturn, he will be ugly, warlike, sinful, a traveller, and bereft of wealth, health, and one's Dharma.

  7. When Mars occupies Capricorn or Aquarius and aspected by Saturn,  he will become a king, wealthy, but despised by women; will have many children, will be warlike and learned but unhappy."

 

 

  

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