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POTUS-22 and POTUS-24 * served 1885-1889 and 1893-1897

preceded by

after POTUS-22, succeeded by

after POTUS-24, succeeded by

married to :


Stephen Grover Cleveland in 1892, age 55


Grover Cleveland

a.k.a Stephen Grover Cleveland

fleshbirth Saturday-18-March-1837

fleshdeath 24-June-1908 (age 71)


Frances "Frankie" Folsom in 1886


Mrs. Frances Folsom Cleveland Preston

21-July-1864 fleshbirth

29-Oct-1947 fleshdeath

Nativity of Frances Folsom Cleveland


POTUS-22 * served 1885-1889 * +++ POTUS-24 * served 1893-1897 * Grover Cleveland **1837-1908

birth data from * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Masculine Nativity


  • Shil-Ponde (1939) Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 81

BPL commentary: high forehead. the condition of Guru will considerably affect the outcome

"... from Arudra to Punarvasu, a startling change in mental development.

In Punarvasu, the native is possessed of profound intelligence,

  • capable of delving into and understanding all manner of philosophical and metaphysical postulates.

He revels in abstract thought

  • and has a lively and profound imagination.

He may be also a poet of high attainment, expressing a fire and vitality in his verse

  • which is the result of an unusually passionate temperament.

He will, however, be only moderately successful by worldly standards during his lifetime

  • although unlike the Arudra native, he will not experience poverty."

Biographical details matched to Vimshottari Dasha Timeline


Stephen Grover Cleveland, younger years

Budha Mahadasha

18-March-1837 fleshbirth * Budha-Rahu period

Ketu Mahadasha

Zukra Mahadasha

01-Oct-1853 decease of Father (Grover's age 16) * Zukra-Surya period * Surya rules rules 7th-from-9th

1862 begins own law practice * Zukra-Guru period * Guru karmesha

Surya Mahadasha

1874 child-1 born (out of wedlock) * Surya-Ketu period * Ketu-5 produces results of putrapathi Zukra

Chandra Mahadasha

19-July-1882 decease of Mother * Chandra-Budha period * Budha rules 12th-from-Chandra

1882-1884 governor of New York * Chandra-Budha period * Budha lagnesha (the governorship was relatively little about law and much more personality)

04-Nov-1884 won election POTUS-22 by narrow margin * Chandra-Zukra period * Zukra rules 5-elections

02-June-1886 married Francis Folsom (she was 21, he was 49) * Mangala-Rahu period

06-Nov-1888 lost election for POTUS-23 by narrow margin * Mangala-Shani period * Shani rules 8-sudden upheaval, unexpected change

03-Oct-1891 child-2 (of 5) * Mangala-Surya period

Rahu Mahadasha

08-Nov-1892 won election POTUS-24 by narrow margin * Rahu-Rahu swabhukti * Rahu occupies 10th-from-Chandra

July-1893 (his age 56) secret, emergency "crash team" surgery onboard a yacht, to remove a life-threatening mouth tumor * Rahu-Rahu swabhukti

07-Jan-1904 death of eldest daughter Ruth Cleveland (child's age 12, from diphtheria) * Rahu-Ketu period * Shani-yuti-Ketu-5

24-June-1908 fleshdeath (age 71) * Rahu-Chandra period * Chandra maraka rules-2

Prominent Features of the Nativity


Grover Cleveland age 66 in 1903 (after the 1893 surgery)

Surya * pitrikaraka

Surya in bhava-10 * dig-bala


The father of POTUS-22-24 Interstate Commerce 1837-1908 Grover Cleveland was recounted by Cleveland to have been a restless, bullying preacher-teacher who produced a very large family but moved the family frequently in pursuit of greater glory. Surya rules 12th-from-4th dissolution of the homestead, pulling up stakes. Surya-Meena-10 rules-3 and receives drishti of uttama-Guru.

The father, by Cleveland's account, cared much less for the well being of his nine children, and much more for their respectable public appearance (10), imposing strict discipline and demanding perfectly pious behavior. Surya rules 3 = 6th-from-Surya, father's misbehavior and mistreatment.

Cleveland was 16 when his father died; an event recorded as a great relief from the father's narcissistic regime. Surya in 6/8-from -swakshetra and Meena-Surya-10 suggest that the father was an attention-seeking fellow whose public profile may have been better suited to politics but who instead pursued preaching. The drishti of uttama-Guru is highly fertile as indicates by Cleveland's large sibling cohort.

Chandra * matrikaraka

Chandra in bhava-2

Guru-yuti-Chandra * Soma-yuti-Kuja

bhava-2 capital finance, treasuries, values. Mouth.

Azlesa Chandra yuti Guru-Karkata * uttama yuti Mangala-Karkata * nichha

Chandra-Azlesa which connotes an overly mentalized, possessive character yet Rahu in 10th-from-Chandra. suggesting high-visibility national governance roles.

Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

* Soma-yuti-Kuja

* dealt with the massive economic depression and widespread poverty caused by the Panic of 1893 . He could not control the Panic because he could not make structural sense of it. He was ideologically opposed to government safety-nets, and thus was forced to hope that the primitive 'laws' of the economy (Rahu-Meza-11) would self-correct before the nation collapsed. He was largely vilified for mishandling the crisis.

July-1893 (his age 56) secret, emergency "crash team" surgery onboard a yacht, to remove a life-threatening mouth tumor

rogesha nichha-Mangala-4 = secret cancer surgery (Mangala-nichha rules-6) on a boat . Uttama-Guru makes it a healing success - for Cleveland and for the nation.

Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

Budha rules 4-housing. Grover Cleveland owned extensive properties in Buffalo NY and even during his USA Presidencies, he and his wife lived away from the Whitehouse in two separate, elite-quality private homes.

Guru * dhavakaraka * bahuta-karaka

Guru-yuti-Chandra typically yields a generous body and over time a rather portly physique

Zukra * svadhu-karaka * kalatra-karaka



Zukra-9 parivartamsha Shani-5 agreements, deals, lawful resolutions


Grover Cleveland was legally married only once, to Frances Folsom, when she was 21 and he was 49.

However earlier in his sexual career, "Grover the Rover" fathered a son with a woman in Buffalo in 1874, during a Ketu bhukti and Zukra rules Ketu. During the son's upbringing Cleveland paid regular child-support, and the situation was discussed among the Buffalo NY bourgeoisie.

The ethical scandal profoundly threatened his political fortunes. During the POTUS-22 campaign, his political machine had the mother of his child remanded to a mental asylum in order to silence her.

Zukra-yuti-Budha would suggest two marriages yet this pair in 8th-from-Chandra suggests an element of masking secrecy.

Marriage lifepartner for Chandra-2 suggests a spouse who is hidden under camouflage, unknown to the public and not a recognized figure. In Cleveland's case the mother of his first child was a widow (8) who ran a boarding house in the town of Buffalo, and her favors were enjoyed apparently by several of the town's leading gentlemen including the father of Cleveland's second wife Frances Folsom. Furthermore 7th-from-Azlesa Chandra is ruled by the unromantic, child-unfriendly pair Shani-yuti-Ketu. As well the drishti of nichha-Mangala upon 7th-from-Chandra produces a very considerable Kuja Dosha. Her fate was not a happy one.

The second marriage is represented by 2nd-from-Chandra = Simha showing the center-stage, charismatic abilities of the second wife born in Purvaphalguni.

Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

Grover Cleveland was once paid to do the job of hanging criminals to death as a capital punishment. He was Sheriff of Erie County, New York, and twice had to spring the trap at a hanging. * Azlesa Chandr + Guru + nichha-Mangala-2 neck throat

Zukra-9 parivartamsha Shani-5 agreements, deals, lawful resolutions

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

Rahu located in 10th-from-Chandra and rules by nichha-Kuja-2. Ruler of 11 in 2 is a significant dhanayoga but also shows risk due to nichha-Kuja. Associated with the Panic of 1893 and its threat of massive economic collapse

Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka

Cleveland had intensive interactions with the economic systems of the large cities and the federal government. Initially due to Shani-yuti-Ketu-5 politics he was himself engaged in marketplace corruption of the Machine. However during his second term as POTUS he acquired responsibility for maintaining economic systems during the devastating Panic of 1893.


POTUS 22-24 partner * Frances Folsom Cleveland * 1864-1047

birth data from * tentatively rectified by BP Lama

charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama

Rising Nakshatra

Feminine Nativity


  • QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 95

BPL commentary: For Purvaphalguni natives, the condition of Zukra considerably affects the outcome

"... an oval face, whose features are well proportioned
  • and a quiet, well modulated voice, soft and cultured.
She is modest and unassuming
  • but has a strong and fine character beneath her quiet demeanor.

Very hospitable and sociable, she likes to meet people

  • and is interested in what they have to say and in their troubles.

She likes to sew or embroider

  • and is often occupied with such tasks.

She also is keenly interested in occult subjects

  • And likes to listen to discussions on these matters and to read about them.

She is scrupulous in her obligations

  • and a favor done to her will always be repaid promptly with something else added."

Biographical details matched to Vimshottari Dasha Timeline


Frances Folsom Cleveland in 1888 (age 24)

Her image of liberal youthful gentility was enormously popular amongst the working classes and generally among progressive folks. Her image was appropriated by a huge variety of sales, marketing, and advertising, publications without her consent, falsely implying her endorsement, but she tolerated this expedient abuse. Guru-yuti-Rahu-3 media-image, publications.


Frances Folsom Cleveland Preston in 1933 (age 69) leading the Needlework Guild to sew for the Depression's homeless. Typical of Purvaphalguni women, she liked to embroider and sew.

Rahu Mahadasha

21-July-1864 fleshbirth * Rahu-Guru period * Guru atmakaraka

23-July-1875 decease of Father (her age 11) * Rahu-Surya period * Surya rules 2nd-from-Surya

Guru Mahadasha

Sept-1885 until May-1886 * Frances (an only child) and her widowed mother to whom she was extremely close, undertake a nine-month tour of seven European capitals, arranged by the White House * Guru-Ketu period * Ketu wandering * dharmesha Mangala-yuti-Ketu-9 world travel

17-May-1886 Frances' paternal grandfather, a minister who was scheduled to perform her wedding ceremony, dies only 16 days before the wedding * Guru-Ketu period * Ketu severance, sudden disconnection

02-June-1886 marriage-1 to POTUS-22-24 Interstate Commerce 1837-1908 Grover Cleveland who was 28 years her senior (her age 21) * Guru-Zukra period

03-Oct-1891 child-1 * Guru-Mangala period * Mangala rules 9-children

Shani Mahadasha

07-Jan-1904 death of eldest child Ruth Cleveland (child's age 12, from diphtheria) * Shani-Zukra period * Zukra rules 2-from-9

24-June-1908 death of husband-1 Grover Cleveland * Shani-Rahu period

10-Feb-1913 marriage-2 to Thomas Preston, a university professor (her age 48) * Shani-Guru period * Guru rules Chandra-navamsha

Budha Mahadasha

27-Dec-1915 decease of Mother * Budha-Ketu period

Ketu Mahadasha

Zukra Mahadasha

29-Oct-1947 fleshdeath (age 83) * Zukra-Guru period* Guru rules 2nd-from-Chandra

POTUS-22-24 Interstate Commerce Grover Cleveland * uttama + nichha-Mangala + Chandra married a beautiful 21-year-old wife when he was 49. "Frankie" bore him five children and raised them in publicly visible context during his second presidency. Her greatest service to him was to rescue his reputation. Cleveland endured a near-crushing scandal when it was discovered that he had fathered a "love child" His young - effectively second - wife promptly rectified his reputation from "Grover the Rover" to conventionally avowed and socially normalized husband and father.

Surya * pitrikaraka

Chandra * matrikaraka

Kuja * bhratru-karaka * virya-karaka

Budha * bandhava-karaka * zisya-karaka

Guru * dhavakaraka * bahuta-karaka

Zukra * svadhu-karaka * kalatra-karaka

Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka

Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)

Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka

Further strengthening the bonds of Cleveland's second marriage are the Rahu-Ketu Mesha-Thula axis both D-1 and D-9 of Frances Cleveland' s nativity matched tightly to the Rahu-Ketu Mesha-Thula axis of Grover Cleveland. Her Kumbha moon occupies his navamsha Chandra-Zukra-Kumbha-10 showing the social dignity and career protection (Chandra) that she brought to the scandal-prone Cleveland.

Her moon also matches Zukra-Kumbha axis among many other matches. The second marriage produced five children and was said to be happy. However they were 28 years apart by birth and he died when she was 46.

At 48 she remarried which is predicted via her Guru-yuti-Rahu pair where Rahu is her first husband (clearly) whereas her second husband was a quiet college professor (Guru).

Surya in bhava-12 combined with Mangala-yuti-Ketu-9 would suggest a premature demise of her father



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