Members of the Founding Fathers Group
James Madison quote that is carved into marble at the Library of Congress :
James Madison in 1816 (age 64)
1809-1817 * POTUS-04
1801-1809 * USA Secretary of State
1793-1797 * US-Congressman from Virginia
philosopher of law, writer of USA Constitution
legislator, emissary, diplomat
Authored 29 of the 85 Federalist Papers
Father of the Bill of Rights
Earthbody-Exit 28-June-1836 (age 85)
1809-1817 * POTUS-partner-04
Whitehouse hostess for POTUS-03 Thomas Jefferson * 1801-1809
Editor of the James Madison Document Library
a.k.a. Dorothea "Dolley" Dandridge Payne Todd Madison
Earthbody-Exit 12-July-1849 (age 81)
nativity of Dolley Madison
Author of first draft of USA Constitution * POTUS-04 from 1809 until 1817 * James Madison * 1751-1836
birth data from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison * tentatively rectified by BP Lama
charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama
Pushya * Sidhya
For Pushya nativities, the
influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural
sober serious systematic
Shani can considerably affect the outcome.
old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems,
and corporate or institutional officials
may be especially influential. Guided by instructors from the
civilizations of Asellus
Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the
family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's
For Pushya nativities, the influence of rigid, chronological, lawful, enduring strictly structural sober serious systematic Shani can considerably affect the outcome.
Elder persons, old rules, rigid structures, age and time, resistance to change, status hierarchies, social class barriers, large organizations, public opinion, bureaucracies, regulatory requirements, legal systems, and corporate or institutional officials may be especially influential.
Guided by instructors from the civilizations of Asellus
Themes of parental duty, civic responsibility, patriotism, dignity of the family, and foundational legal protections may contextualize Pushya's terrestrial experience.
QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra. p 82.
"An earnest, thoughtful character,
intelligent and quite religious in his outlook.
Withal, he is possessed of the qualities which make for success in the material world,
and has the ability to rise in position
He will fill a position of executive requirements
Biographical data matched to Vimshottari Dasha periods
Earthbody-Entry 16-Mar-1751 * fleshdeath 28-Jun-1836
16-March-1751 Earth-birth * Guru-Zukra period * Zukra rules 4-foundations 11-economy
23-Sept-1771 earned BA diploma College of New Jersey(Princeton) * Shani-Rahu period * Shani rules 4th-from-4th diploma
15-Sept-1794 Marriage to the widow Dolley Payne (James age 43) * Ketu-Zukra period
1797 retired from politics after eight years' service in the House of Representatives * Ketu-Rahu period
1800 POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson asks Madison to be Secretary of State. Serves 1801-1809 * Zukra-Zukra swabhukti * Zukra rules 10th dashashamsha
27-Feb-1801 grieved decease of father Jas. Madison Sr. Zukra-Zukra swabhukti
Dec-1808 elected POTUS-04 (served 4-Mar-1809 until 3-Mar-1817) * Zukra-Rahu period * Rahu-5 politics
18-June-1812 USA declaration of three-way war begins the devastating War of 1812 against Britain and against many Native American tribes who allied with Britain * Zukra-Guru period * Guru rogesha-6 war
1817 retirement from public life, return to the Montpelier slave plantation * Zukra-Budha period * Budha rules 12-retreat, sanctuary, invisibility
1826-1836 Chancellor of the University of Virginia * Chandra-Chandra swabhukti * Chandra-4 education * Chandra lagnesha
11-Feb-1829 grieved the decease of mother Nelly Rose Madison (James' age 77) * Chandra-Rahu period
28-June-1836 Earthbody-Exit (age 85) * Chandra-Surya chidradasha
Prominent Features of the Nativity
Dad was a tobacco planter who inherited substantial slave-plantation lands then increased his holdings further, making him the largest landowner in the Piedmont of Virginia.
James Madison's mother lived to be nearly 100 years old. She died when James was already elderly age 77. Shani-yuti-Rahu in 8th-from-4th suggests an exceptionally long life for mom.
Marriage emotional support partnership
7th from Chandra-4 = prominent spouse in leadership roles, whether overt or covert.
James' Thula-Chandra matches Dolley's Thula radical lagna, while Dolley's Karkata-Chandra matches James' Karkata lagna. Despite their 17-year age gap, this couple worked interactively from a shared basis of patriotic feeling (Karkata) and diplomatic skill (Thula).
A familiar (Chandra) presence in Washington D.C., Dolley did her share of decision-making albeit her approach was predominantly social and emotional rather than overtly intellectual. Her significant role in two, 2-term administrations (Jefferson's then Madison's) was acknowledged over a 16+ year period. The average American who is not a historian may remember few specifics about the personality or achievements of James Madison. But Dolley Madison is widely remembered as the paragon of political hostesses.
Dolley as well as James were overt-and-covert diplomats arranging deals and liaisons in the new country. Their skills were essential at a time when everyone was afraid of Britain's military power to smash the new nation and punish its colonial people (Mangala-6).
yogakaraka rules 5-politcs, entertainments + 10-governance, leadership
Madison adopted Dolley Payne's toddler son. This stepson was to cause ongoing stress and financial catastrophe. Rahu + randhresha-Shani in 5 +++ Mangala putrapathi-5 occupies 6.
Budha rules-3-12 + Budha occupies-8 + Budha rules 9-12 from Chandra-Thula
Madison wrote widely-read, influential opinion-piece newspaper articles * under a pseudonym (8 nondisclosure)
James Madison was a notable political legal writer whose newspaper articles were deeply influential in shaping the political culture of individual entitlement, creativity, and intellectual pursuits of the newly formed United States. James Madison's political discourse was often written under an alias. Dolley was also a capable writer and editor.
Expansive and inclusive Mesha-10 parivartamsha Mangala-6
Guru rules 6-9 + Guru occupies leadership-10 + Guru rules 3-6 from Chandra-Thula
Dhanayoga = Zukra-uttama ruler of 11 * Zukra occupies 11th-from-11th
However, Ketu-Vrishabha-11 tends to erode the marketplace profits.
Dolley became a legendary personality in Whitehouse communications and entertaining Zukra-yuti-Surya-9 providing gracious social support for her husband's career and facilitating personal relationships between members of the first generation of USA leaders.
Friendships = 11 + 11th-from-11th bhava-9
Soft-spoken and carefully reasoning Madison was the closest adviser and personal friend to the adventurous and often controversial POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson over decades of friendship between the two leaders.
Madison's independent inherited wealth was the precondition that allowed him to dedicate his time and attention to codifying and clarifying the structure of the newborn nation that was based on Enlightenment principles, drawing its precedents from British cultural foundations but indeed unlike any other country in existence. It had to be thought through. Madison did the lion's share of the thinking while Jefferson did most of the promoting. They were a team
Although it was primarily a Jefferson initiative, Madison (a Princeton graduate) assisted Jefferson with founding the University of Virginia, and Madison served nominally as Chancellor of U-Va from 1826 until his death in 1836. Zukra-9 universities.
A bachelor until age 43 on 15-Sept-1794 Ketu-Zukra period James Madison married the 26-year-old widow Dolley Payne
Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka
Shani rules Pushya radical lagna
Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)
Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka
James Madison stood five-feet, four-inches tall. Contrast to George Washington who stood over six-feet tall.
James Madison was a writer of renown. Historians like to chuckle over the memory that Madison famously "wrote George Washington's inaugural address, the House of Representatives 'congratulatory reply to the address, and Washington's response to the House's warm reply."
An Enlightenment era legal writer who was brilliantly clear and precise yet possessed of an extraordinary breadth of vision, Madison wrote the first draft of the USA Constitution. Madison wrote 29 of the 85 Federalist Papers (foundational commentaries). Madison sponsored the United States Bill of Rights. Surya-3 with vidyapathi-5 Zukra L-3-from-3 in 3 shows James Madison's remarkable ability as a writer.
He was born the eldest of 12 children, of which seven survived to adulthood. Madison attended a Virginia boarding school where he was educated in the Classics, and where his lifetime love of reading was established. Madison's father was a wealthy, slave-owning Virginia planter who arranged private tutoring for his sickly son when James was forced to leave the boarding school due to illness.
Various stress-induced illnesses including seizures dogged Madison throughout his long and productive life. Shani-yuti-Rahu forming Shapati Yoga occupies bhava-6, an excellent placement for both Shani and Rahu. Despite a delicate childhood and an adulthood punctuated by animosities and illnesses, Madison died age 85.
Before James Madison was president, Dolley also served James' best friend who was the widowed POTUS-03 Declaration of Independence 1743-1826 Thomas Jefferson as a White House hostess. Dolley provided hostessing services in lieu of Jefferson's true partner Sally Hemings. Sally was the enslaved stigmatized quadroon half-sister of Jefferson's deceased wife Martha.
Madison was born into landed wealth and well-educated. He inherited a valuable plantation from his father. However the plantation was mismanaged in his absence while he fulfilled unpaid governance duties, and at the end of his life he feared poverty.
Madison had no children of his own but he raised Dolley's son Ketu-in bhava-5. This son became an alcoholic and a compulsive gambler Shani-Rahu-11 5th-from-7th indicates the stepson. Bailing out Dolley's son from jail and from debts was a frequent and expensive practice for Madison.
he and Dolley were introduced in the parlor (talking room) of a Philadelphia home * Z Also Zukra conjoins his Surya, showing his wife's widowed status distinctive rosacea (a potential feature of Surya-yuti-Zukra).
Uttama-Zukra yogakaraka from the Makara lagna. As indicated by Madison's prominent uttama-Zukra-Meena-3, lovely Dolley with her legendary social grace and entertaining skills was exceptionally instrumental in shaping and supporting James Madison's political career.
Like all of the Southern leaders of the new-born United States of America, James Madison was a materially wealthy man whose family had the resources to grant him an elite education and whose inherited income provided more than sufficiently for himself and his family. (Exceptions include Northerners POTUS-02 Thoughts on Government 1735-1826 John Adams and Abigail Adams and their son POTUS-06 American System 1767-1868 John Quincy Adams and Louisa Johnson Adams who earned primarily from their government salaries and law businesses.)
Mangala controls the environment of bhava-11 marketplace economy wherein ambitious Rahu-11 is constrained by lawful Shani-11. The lawfulness pressure from Shani is not a comfortable constraint for privilege-seeking Rahu but this difficult pair Shani-yuti-Rahu nevertheless produces a benefit of out-smarting (clever Rahu) and out-lasting (enduring Shani) one's "friends". Aside from Jefferson, James Madison had few close friends due to restrictions of Shani-11. Mainly he consulted with Dolley and with his extremely long-lived mother.
Instrumentalist and opportunist Professor Rahu yuti Shani-5 indicates political expediency under difficult circumstances. ,
However Shani even though a provider of material wealth has a certain downside due to His entanglement with opportunistic Rahu.
Madison's father earned lavishly Surya-yuti-uttama-Zukra from slave-operated agriculture. Aided by Vishaka-Chandra which has a tolerance for extreme shakti, Madison accepted the injustice of slavery as a bitter fact of agricultural economics in the revolutionary new nation. He was not an anti-slavery abolitionist like his colleague POTUS-06 American System 1767-1868 John Quincy Adams.
Political socialite and partner of POTUS-04 * Dolley Payne Madison * 1768 - 1849
birth data from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolley_Madison * tentatively rectified by BP Lama
charts, graphs and tables produced by Shri Jyoti Star * adapted by BP Lama
Dolley Payne Madison
For Visaka gentlewomen, the condition of prosperous, preaching, inclusive, broad-scope, philosophical, humanistic Brihaspati may considerably affect the outcome. Due to the definitive influence of dhava-karaka Guru, ladies born in Puna, Visaka, or Purvabhadra may find that their worldview is greatly shaped by the character of the husband.
Teachers, preachers, professors, patrons, agents of generosity and guidance, guru-figures, ideologues, indoctrinators, theorists, know-it-alls, proselytes, philosophers, pontificators, patriarchs, pundits, pater-nosters, proponents of principled understanding, wise-ones, wizards, druids, and paradigms of belief may be especially influential.
Guided by patrons from the civilizations of Saka. Their purpose is facilitation of shocking insights by lightning-strike and expansive growth by root-splitting..
High forehead. Saptarishi-ruled
births come equipped with a global perspective. The majority of Visaka
nativities are higher dimensional Seva-wanderers who assume guidance roles.
Thula pada 1-2-3 expresses Saptarishi's rulership of 3-Writing-commerce + 6-service ministry or victimhood. Pada 1-2-3 also evoke the tension between Zukra's one-to-one relationships versus Guru's one-to-many preachings. Pada 1-2-3 may be experts on the subject of relationships, both seen and unseen. They have a broad understanding of the power of polarities. They are often found in advising and recommending roles (Zukra) which engage ideology or theory (Guru) such as psychotherapy, university teaching, policy consultant, or political lobby.
Although the husband is globally minded, for Thula-Visaka the husband may also be impoverished or ailing (due to Guru rules 3-6).
Vrischika Pada-4 emphasizes Guru's rulership of 2-affluence, collections ++ 5-creativity, entitlement. Pada 4 enjoys the spirited compatibility between Guru's optimism + Kuja's kinetic movement. Their husbands are charming, speculative, and affluent. Pada-4 has a broad understanding of the ultimate power of transformative beliefs. Pada-4 are often found in teaching and healing work, especially with the sexual-reproductive energies.
Themes of shocking growth via beliefs, widening expansion via root-splitting, and fertilization via jolts of electromagnetic Shakti may contextualize Visaka's terrestrial experience. Applies also to Chandra in Visaka
QUOTATION from Shil-Ponde. (1939). Hindu Astrology Joytisha-Shastra . p 97.
"... delicate features and a soft pleasing voice.
Underneath she has a strong character , even hard at times.
She will be distinctly appealing to the opposite sex
Her husband will be well-to-do if not wealthy
She will be fond of travel and change
Her favorite color is red or crimson.
She has beautifully shaped legs."
Biographical data matched to Vimshottari Dasha periods
ups and downs of the Mahadasha cycle
Dolley Madison in midlife, engraving
Dolley Payne Madison painted by Rembrandt Peale in 1817 (her age 49)
Shani mahadasha * age birth until age 9
20-May-1768 Earth-birth * Shani-Zukra period * Zukra lagnesha
Budha Mahadasha * age 9 until age 26
07-Jan-1790 marriage-1 to lawyer John Todd (Dolley's age 21) * Budha-Guru period * Guru rules navamsha-7.
29-Feb-1792 birth of eldest son Payne Todd * Budha-Shani period * Shani putrapathi
Oct-1792 grieved decease of father * Budha-Shani chidradasha* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu
24-Oct-1793 widowed by the death of husband-1 * Budha-Shani chidradasha* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu
24-Oct-1793 death of infant son-2 * Budha-Shani chidradasha * due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu
Ketu Mahadasha * age 26 until age 33
15-Sept-1794 marriage-2 to James Madison * * Ketu-Ketu swabhukti* due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Ketu gives effect of Shani ++ Shani rules navamsha-2 second marriage
1797 death of her mother * Ketu-Rahu period
1801 James Madison is asked by Thomas Jefferson to serve as Secretary of State. Considerable traveling (Ketu) due to this appointment, during the administration of POTUS-03. * Ketu-Budha period * Budha-7 partnership rules swamsha ++ Budha dharmesha world affairs
Zukra Mahadasha * age 33 until age 53
1809-1817 James Madison serves as POTUS-04 with Dolley serving as official entertainments boss * begin Zukra-Mangala * Kuja rules bhava-7 relationships, negotiations, terms of agreement containing Zukra-yuti-Budha
Surya Mahadasha * age 53 until age 59
Chandra Mahadasha * age 59 until age 69
28-June-1836 death of James Madison (Dolley's age 68) * Chandra-Rahu period
Mangala Mahadasha * age 69 until age 76
Rahu Mahadasha * age 76 until decease age 81
12-July-1849 Earthbody-Exit (age 81) * Rahu-Shani period * due to Shani-yuti-Ketu, Shri Shani gives effect of Shri Ketu
Distinctive features of the nativity |
Etching of Dolley Payne Madison in her early decades, created on the basis of a previous painting
Surya rules-11 ++ Surya occupies the emotionally motivated community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra
Famed socialite with a gift for keeping confidences (Surya-8 political secrets)
Dad was a prosperous southern slave-plantation owner who freed all of his slaves according to his Quaker beliefs, then moved to Philadelphia where his business collapsed leaving the family without assets.
Her father Surya in bhava-8-Vrishabha was secretive in dealings, as she by necessity also was. Surya rules economic income 11 but Surya-8 requires that the sources and connections of the revenues are not disclosed.
Her father was excommunicated from the Quaker congregation Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 (father, doctrine, sangha) and she also was ejected from that faith-community when she married slave-owner Madison.
Chandra-10 is typically a well-known, familiar face and so much stronger in swakshetra
200 years after her service, Dolley Madison is still a household name in many USA homes. Yet the remarkable legal governance codifications of James Madison have been relegated to the history books for two centuries gone. Madison was publically appreciative and complimentary of Dolley as were nearly all of his colleagues
At the time of their marriage, bachelor James Madison was 43 and the widow Dolley Payne was 26.
Her Chandra-Karkata suggests marriage to elder persons while her 2nd-from-Chandra Becomes Simha bhava-11 which suggests that her second husband would be a philosopher-politician.
Surya ruler of her 2nd-from-Chandra resides in the emotionally motivated community-linking, economically gainful, profit-regulated, friendly, participatory, goal-oriented, socially-networked 11th-from-Chandra = the intensely social community and economic networking that framed her marriage to Madison. Her uttama-Guru in 2nd-navamsha also suggests abundant benefits from the second marriage.
Mangala rules 2-family ++ 5-children-politics-entertainments
Mangala occupies the volatile disruptive identity-changing, sometimes disastrous 8th-from-Chandra
Mangala Mahadasha * age 69 until age 76 was generally difficult due to multiple problems related to her son (Kuja-5)
Agent of polarizing catalysis = the Son
Dolley's surviving son named Payne Madison did poorly in school (likely due to learning disabilities) then became an alcoholic and inveterate gambler. He was constantly in and out of jail for debts and "shooting incidents" (Mangala-6 rules-5).
Her dissolute son was a source of constant frustration to his mother and his stepfather. In widowhood Dolley faced unexpected and debilitating poverty. Firstly, her husband had neglected the affairs of his plantations, after which they had sold much of their property with slaves in order to pay her son's debts. When she secondly handed the management of the remaining properties to her son, he mismanaged them and ruined any remaining value..
Zukra Mahadasha * age 33 until age 53 * years 1801 until 1821
As the leading political hostess in Washington D.C. during the 18-year period 1800-1818, Dolley Payne Madison played a significant, but gender-discounted, role in establishing the future of the fledgling country and negotiating personality conflicts between the leaders.
Her balancing, relationship-cultivating Zukra-yuti-Budha-Mesha-7 occupies the emotionally motivated, social-ordering, leadership-seeking; 10th-from-Chandra displays an empowered career as a crafter of partnership agreements.
Without her physically active (Mesha) support, the shy and soft-spoken legal writer James Madison would likely have stayed in retirement following his exit (during his 40's) from the House of Representatives.
Yet Dolley liked to relate with Zukra music and dancing (Arudra swamsha), and her expertise in connecting people of disparate interests through shared food and drink (Zukra) and conversation (Budha) built Madison's career from House of Representatives to Secretary of State to POTUS-04.
Shani * duro-karaka * jara-karaka
A brutal Budha-Shani chidradasha, Dolley's age 22-23 * Budha-8 in 12th-from-Shani rules Shani-yuti-Ketu
Eleven months before marrying James Madison in 1794, Dolley had been widowed by the yellow fever epidemic that had swept through Philadelphia. The infectious fever killed her first husband and her infant son, along with more than 5000 other citizens. Her father had died the year earlier, her mother had moved away, and her husband's parents who might have helped her had also perished in the plague. Destitute and grieving, she was left with one living son named Payne Todd, aged two.
Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 rules 4- homes and farm properties.
Contrary to Dolley's Quaker upbringing, after marriage her homes were maintained by slaves. Their family (consisting of James, Dolley, Dolley's sister, and Dolley's son) could travel as needed, knowing that their homes were being operated in absentia by faithful slaves.
Bandesha Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 suggests that Dolley's beliefs were often permeable and inconsistent., and Shani occupies t6th-from-4th, predicting chronic problems with property. Toward the end of life, due largely to her son's mismanagement of their properties and her husband being 17 years her elder, Dolley who had once socialized with the wealthiest planters experienced sickness, isolation, and poverty
Shani-yuti-Ketu-9 rules 5-children, gambling
Her son Payne Todd became a problematic adult. He suffered from alcoholism, compulsive gambling, and social indiscretions. Dolley continued to believe in him and James continued to fund him. James turned over control of his once-prosperous tobacco plantation (the family's only source of income) to Payne, and Payne mismanaged the property so badly that James, his elderly mother, Dolley, and Payne were embittered by poverty toward the end of their lives. Historians attribute Madison's financial collapse mainly to Payne.
Rahu * rajyalobha-karaka * picchala-karaka (slippery)
Rahu occupies the emotionally contentious, accusatory, defaming, impoverishing 6th-from-Chandra
Rahu in 12th-from-7th from Chandra ++ Rahu occupies 6th-from-Chandra
Rahu Mahadasha * age 76 until decease age 81 was difficult due to drishti from Shani-yuti-Ketu bringing her second widowhood. Plus, renegade Rahu occupies the impoverishing 6th-from-Chandra adding ill-health into the final scene.
Rahu-3 Writing Editing Documenting
Rahu-Dhanushya-3 while Guru resides in 10th-from-Rahu = Dolley spent decades copying, editing, and organizing her husband's papers from his 40 years in government service during the Revolutionary Era. One of her few sources of income following James Madison's death was a Congressional allotment paying her for this extensive literary work.
Ketu * kavandha-karaka * chidra-karaka
Shani-yuti-Ketu the Liberator in bhava-9 supports legalized Freedom of Religion. Dharmesha Budha-7 makes it legal.
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