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Graha * Gochara

"Elarata Saturn"

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Samchara * Gochara Shani

Effects in the 12 Bhava

Shani - Main Page

see also: Sade Sati


Shani produces comfortable and pleasing results when the process is long-lasting, slow-moving, reduced-energy, multi-staged, carefully checked and vetted, status-ranked, proven, credentialed, materialistic, emotionally neutral, socially approved, tightly regulated, and respectful to the elderly.

Shani delays , but typically He does not deny.

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Will it be difficult overall?

Easy overall?

Aligned with my expectations ?

Does Shani cause death ?

Will my cherished fantasies and beliefs conflict with Shani's material realism?

Will my every movement be blocked or fiercely regulated?

Are there mitigants or buffers that can reduce Shani's retarding effects and soften His rigid adherence to the Law?

Shani freezes, stalls, stiffens, desiccates, delays, and retards.

However He is not a killer -- unless He is also the marana lord of bhava-2 or bhava-7. In general, Shani does not completely stop the life force flow; rather He increases the force of gravity, cools the blood and slows vigorous action in order to call human attention to the step-wise structure of Time.

Shani is relentlessly realistic and completely neutral on the topic of beliefs and expectations. He will use the true physical, emotional, mental, financial, social, and spiritual conditions of life in order to accomplish His karmic goals. Shani does not recognize Chandra's guilt language of"should".

The best mental and ideological strategy during Shani transits is to Lower Your Expectations regarding matters of the bhava via which Shani is traveling and remain absolutely neutral in response to karmic burn-off mandates of Shanaicarya.

Continuously asserting the religious belief, creative fantasy, or embedded psychological expectation that reality"should" be different from what it is can be a superb recipe for mental illness during Shani transits.

The three most difficult bhava for Shani are the swabhava of Shani's enemies Surya + Mangala = bhava-1, bhava-5, and bhava-8.

Bhava which are owned by Shani's friends Budha + Zukra are overall more harmonious places for Shani to travel across

Bhava which are owned by graha neutral to Shani Guru + Chandra are generally neutral locations as well.

The temporal lordships of all 12 bhava must absolutely be considered, the angle which Shani forms in relation to all of the birth graha must be assessed, and the reigning bhukti-pati must be comprehended in detail especially regarding the bhukti-pati's relationship to Shani both naturally and temporarly.

The current Vimshottari bhukti lord = the single most influential weakener or strengthener of Shani's impact.

From http://www.etymonline.com

literally "judgment, result of a trial, selection ," from krinein"to separate, decide, judge," from PIE root *krei-"to sieve, discriminate, distinguish" (cf. Greek krinesthai"to explain;" Old English hriddel"sieve;" Latin cribrum"sieve," crimen"judgment, crime," cernere (past participle cretus)"to sift, separate;"

Vocabulary for Shani-gochara

CRISIS

"krit" means "rule, standard, judgement"

crisis, crime, criticize, hypocrisy, diacritic,

Gochara-Shani via Bhava 1

Lack of musculoskeletal support and minimum nourishment. The flesh-body may be less able to absorb nutrient. Reduced movement. Limited capability to sustain one's vitality and unique body-based identity.

In kendra, possibility of success only by repeated effort. Excessive dryness, coldness, appearance of aging, feeling elderly, often looks temporarily (during the transit) older than one really is.

Inevitably, Shani slows, stalls, stiffens, dries, delays and retards -- but in kendra or in a friendly bhava or a neutral bhava, He does not deny.

By nature, Shani = materialistic. He can deliver valuable products resulting from persistent effort. However, major Shani transits mark the period of the effort, not yet the period of the final product.

Movement ( the natural power of Mangala) may be stalled, seized, pinched, limping, crippled, brittle. Insufficiencies and scarcities: lacking time, energy, permission.

Environments acquire qualities of stricture, discipline, and neutrality. Even the colors in the field of perception may tend toward neutral tones, steely grays, wooden browns, midnight blues, pale hues of stones and bones.

Shani is the Master of"no". The conscious native may accept temporarily restricted (even painfully so) movements in order to streamline the lifestyle, eliminating purposeless actions and habitual waste.

No sort of Guru-style excess may be permitted under auspice of Strict Shani - except possibly an excess of public duty workload. Governments and bureaucracies, laws with serious consequences, class-ranking, official status, regulations define the work environment.


Crisis of Legitimacy (Shani) in Personal Identity (1)

Imposition of a regime of lawful ordering of the personality-attribute system. Crisis of identity. Eradication of disorder in the personhood. Shani demands elegance: what attributes to release and what to justifiably maintain? Crisis is more acute if there are graha residing in the afflicted bhava and/or simultaneous bhukti of Shani.

Freeze-frame. New energy for revitalization of the bodily movement and appearance may be blocked; previously recognized identification markers must be ordered before proceeding. Existing roles must be carefully justified and systematized during a streamlining process which lasts for 2.3 years.

If natal Shani resides in bhava-1, the lawful organization of the flesh-body into stepped hierarchies of social attribute-packages during Saturn Return may be a very laborious process. The more tightly organized identity which emerges from this streamlining process will be less burdened and more efficient. Also will be reconfigured with stricter discipline which supports heavier social responsibilities during the forthcoming 30-year Shani circuit through all 12 bhava.

Every status marker that is attributed to the Self must be justified and reorganized according to social-regulatory principles. One is held responsible during these 2.3 years to socially justify one's ranks and roles in the social hierarchy. For example,"I am a mother","I am a teacher","I am an athlete","I am a member of xxx race-class-group". Every"I am attribute-x" statement must be systematized. Attributes which are no longer valid must be disposed.

Agents of identity legitimation and testing include the physical body itself, which may staunchly resist the necessary release of outdated structures. The life-force itself may dwindle and joie de vivre may seem to flame-out. Physical movement may be impeded by stiffness, weakness, or muscular desiccation.


Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderliness

One may begin a slow and careful step-wise ascent to a higher social rank, such as completing a complex application process to gain admission professional school or seeking a government-sponsored research fellowship or other"next step" life advancement.

Social approval of the identity will be forthcoming for those involved with government, organizational bureaucracy, social policy, social ordering, scientific systems, and the management of associative or distributive networks.

Yet such a process must be extremely slow and detailed, socially conformant, and demand much proof via qualifications and credentials.

Work of all types will be slowly progressing but socially respected. A sensible response to Shani's demand for regulated lifestyle can be a voluntary quietude and an elegant, intentionally reduced pattern of movements during the transit.

  • POTUS-pair-42 + USA Secy State 1947- Hillary Clinton served from Jan-2009 until Jan-2013. She endured the ingress of gochara Shani via her Thula bhava-1 fleshbody-personality . Her kalpasthana-1 contains nichha-Surya + Zukra-yuti-Budha . The transit impacted her social-ordering roles imparting a heavy burden yet conferring great dignity of justice (uttama-Shani) and respect unprecedented for a woman in her job.

  • Duration of the samchara Shani-Thula from Nov-2011 until the end of service in Jan-2013. Although her diplomatic (Thula) workload was most onerous, and the workload also produced a brief health crisis involving dehydration and brain-concussion at the fleshbody level (Shani = dry, pressure) .

Gochara-Shani via Bhava 2

Shani delays. Yet in swabhava of graha that are friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Zukra is friendly toward Shani, therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava.

Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava. Bhava-2 is "Truth".

Crisis of Legitimacy (Shani) in Values (2)

Imposition of a regime of lawful ordering of the value system.

Crisis of values. Systematization of the rules of appreciation. What will be allowed to appreciate in value? What shall be reduced (Shani) in value? Eradication of disorder in the memory banks.

Shani demands elegance: what values to release and what preciousness to keep? Crisis is more acute if there are graha residing in the afflicted bhava and/or simultaneous bhukti of Shani.

New acquisitions in language, speech, song, and financial wealth are blocked; previous acquisitions must be ordered before proceeding. Existing treasuries of valuable goods and knowledge must be carefully systematized during a streamlining process which lasts for 2.3 years.

If natal Shani resides in bhava-2, the lawful organization of the memory-knowledge banks into stepped hierarchies during Saturn Return may be a very laborious process.

Everything that is known must be justified and reorganized according to regulatory principles. One is held responsible during these 2.3 years to socially justify one's social rank as a keeper of treasuries.

Agents of knowledge legitimation and testing include the family elders (2, kutumbha) designated treasury keepers such as financial bankers, historians, and lineage masters. Food may be scarce or difficult to digest. Eyes, mouth, and face may feel stiff, dry and cold.


Real-World Effects

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the historical memory, relationship to family history, speech and sight, and accumulated wealth.

In extreme cases: death of a family member generates extra work for the native.

Slows the speech and dims the memory; may diminish of right-eyesight due to drying or constriction of flesh-tissues; words and sounds may be pinched or negative in quality.

Family lineage culture may seem burdensome and the family history may seem either uninteresting or irrelevant to the material tasks at hand.

Shani the Law has little tolerance for those who speak in ways that was socially disruptive. Long dentistry treatment processes.

It can be difficult to save money, store food, or increase the size of the animal herd. The task of maintaining collections of art, music, or other valuable become expensive and time-consuming.

Storage containers of every variety acquire Shani-traits such as weakness from insufficient quality of materials, bent steel, damage from age, old wood, broken stone, dried seals.

Acquisition of Languages requires intensive study and often very slow progress.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderliness

Gochara-Shani via Bhava-3

chronic repeating thoughts, sober delayed heavily regulated communication

Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Budha is friendly toward Shani, therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.

Effects: Physical, Emotional, Mental

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of The mental activities, small-group and team process, business administration, relationship to siblings and every variety of media-communication.

Long, drawn-out processes in matters of publishing, media-messaging, reports, production of writing, instruction, explanation, conferences, planning, scheduling, making of itineraries, short-term travel, and hand-craft.

Temporary separation from or extra work burdens generated by a younger sibling or team-mate. Heavy responsibilities in commercial administration, publishing, writing, media production, and the skills-training component of teaching.

  • UK-Princess of Wales 1961-1997 Diana Spencer experienced a Shani transit via Shani-yuti-nichha-Guru-Makara-bhava-3 from March-1990 until March-1993. Simultaneously this transit produced a Saturn Return and Shani oppressed an already-chanllengeing nichha-Guru. Brihaspati represents husband-1 UK-Prince 1948- Charles of Wales . This period produced a number of difficult mental health events along with intense media pressure (Shani-3) During this period she chose to interact with journalists and publishers to message about her situation with the scandalously detailed semi-authorized biography published in 1992.

Often several periods of psychological depression and perhaps self-isolation, due to the cold somberness of the interior narrative environment.

The normally chatty inner talk becomes temporarily less speedy, less fluent; thoughts acquire a certain heavy darkness, and the colors of the mind seem to be rather dry and stony brown hue for a sustained period of months at the peak of the transit.

The cure for the mental depression is generally reduction of unnecessary thoughts and intentionally choosing to absorb uplifting information, such as read positive books or attend inspiring lectures. Also, bright lights can be used to counteract Shani's heavy cast.

Positive Outcomes: Mental Maturity, Sobriety, Orderliness

Gochara-Shani via Bhava-4

chronic settlement,

responsibility to make a home

systematizing the roots, the ethnicity, the sense of belonging

necessity to stay in one place

home may become very cold, very dry, or very windy

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the physical, emotional and cultural security and protection.

  • Stalled movement toward property, diploma, cultural validation, vehicle, or place of belonging.

Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Chandra is neutral toward Shani - however Shani sees Soma as an enemy.

The relationship between the uniform rules of national government (Shani) vs unique customs of local settlements (Chandra) is inherently oppositional; as is the relationship between the public leadership duties (Shani) vs. parochial parenting needs (Chandra). Shani-Chandra represent a natural opposition in human civilization which plays out in every person's life.

While sometimes frustrating, the Shani-Chandra polarity of social rules vs. family rhythms is usually not shocking or outright adversarial in nature. The relationship between Shani and Chandra can be characterized as "mutually reserved and cautious ". Therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an acceptable outcome, noted for its stabilizing maturity and regulated realism -- even while some emotional resentment remains.

Effects

Slow and steady schooling process to pass examinations and acquire diploma or license, involving many setbacks. Yet ultimately proof of competence is established.

In kendra, possibility of success only by repeated and extraordinary effort.

Temporary separation from homeland or parents; long drawn-out process to obtain a national citizenship, residency papers, or passport; matters of property and vehicle ownership, particularly fencing or defense of the land, also subject to repeated, lawful delays. Repeating vehicle troubles , especially engine stalls.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Gochara-Shani via Bhava 5

Shani finds Himself in an inhospitable graha naturally ruled by His bitter enemy Surya.

It is an unfriendly situation which can produce frustrating delays in matters of creativity, performance arts, speculative finance, children, theatre, politics, and expressions of personal intelligence.

If Shani is well disposed, the experience is less about frustration and more about responsibility with a heavy workload in areas of artistic performance, students and children, drama, and politics.

  • Raja Yoga 1863-1902 Swami Vivekananda wished to attend the 1893 World Congress of Religions in Chicago during Shani's transit of his Kanya-bhava-5 creating his Saturn Return AND Sade Sati due to his nishturabashi yoga. Even considering his excellent preparation during his college studies in philosophy, fluent spoken and written academic English, and high levels of personal discipline, it was his very first trip out of India and he was only 30 years old. Initially he was denied the right to speak due to a perceived lack of credentials (Shani); but he persisted (Shani). Eventually he was successful and the speech created a popular sensation. However his popularity generated a huge workload of touring and lectures which weakened his health.

Shani gochara Buddhi-bhava tends to stifle the creative instincts, repress the speculative urge, and impose the rule of the lowest common denominator upon the royal, brilliant, ego-centric expressions of bhava-5.

Exceptions:

  • for Kanya lagna, the experience of Shani gochara His temporal swabhava is somewhat less pinched. The native's expectations are naturally rather conservative and sober requiring orderly children, well-regulated students, pragmatic expression of creative intelligence and limited personal amusement. Therefore for Kanya lagna, Shani gochara via 5 matches the existing conditions and causes less frustration.

  • for Thula lagna, yogakaraka Shani gochara His temporal swabhava in mulatrikona suggests a 2.3 year period that is distinguished by significant responsibilities for children, advanced students, and works of creative intelligence. Shani imposes a systematic approach to creativity. However for Thula lagna this is the natural situation therefore Shani requires no particular restrictions.

Likely manifestations of Gochara-Shani via bhava-5 include separations from the children and from romantic lovers due to workload; political oppression or censure of individuality within by a heavily regulated government agency or under a conservative regime; and a deep frustration with delayed recognition for one's creativity, intelligence, or entitlements.

Shani gochara via 5 also can delay childbirth therefore those with fertility concerns may feel a sustained frustration with numerous setbacks.

However if Shani is the lord of putrasthana (Kanya lagna and Thula lagna) and the woman is not too young and not too much financially privileged, Shani's gochara via bhava-5 may signal the birth of a child, followed by the pinched experience of raising that child in a climate of scarce resources.

Positive outcomes may include social maturity and careful approach to expressing the personal intelligence; requirement to to study political science, economics, and behavioral sciences; intellectual attention to mass movements and conditions of the rank-and-file workers.

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the personal genius, creative intelligence, divinely inspired productivity, reproductive fertility, and reduction in the scope of celebrity or fame. Limited public recognition for royal privilege and entitlements.

Less confidence, more carefulness.

The golden aura of the individual soul which radiates from each person may during Shani gochara to mantra-bhava acquire a temporary dullness or shadowy hue of steel-gray, deepest purple, or darkest blue.

Stalled movement toward political entitlements, temporary setbacks of election campaign (5).

Loss of gambling luck, Stalled movement toward winnings from games and speculations. Shani gochara bhava-5 is the worst possible time to gamble.

Stalled movement toward royal ceremonies such as coronation, delay in receiving coveted theatrical roles, deprivation of center-stage attentions and quieting of applause.

In extreme cases, loss of procreativity or temporary separation from a living child.


In bhava-5, theatrical-political duties can make romance (5) unsustainable.

At first, one may accept a more central, visible duty roster (Shani) because it seems like more responsibility will lead to more popular recognition and ego-approval. However, for the duration of the transit, more responsibility leads mainly to ... more responsibility.

Shani's duty roster dominates the game-playing amusements of 5 and fills the native with a sense of Limited Time. The burden of managing public affairs (Shani) overwhelms the individual celebrity, and one becomes a stage manager rather than an actor.

The children, sensing that they are perceived as disorderly, may become temporarily alienated. Lovers (5), noticing that the native has little time available for sweet romance, may depart.

Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding children . For those wanting a child but seemingly unable to conceive, Sade Sati in putrabhava may signal a period of devastating no-movement infertility. But for those whose children are already manifested, the difficulty of the children's situation becomes a focus of frustration due to insufficiency of time and resources. See Sade Sati in 12 bhava for more details.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Gochara-Shani via Bhava-6

Chronic problems

Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Budha is friendly toward Shani; therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.

Effects

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the bodily health balance.

Marital and business partnership fixed disagreements, chronic poverty, enduring narratives of victimization, criminal elements in the environment, chronic ailments, drugs, toxicity and social conflict (including conditions of war).

  • Material disagreement in marriage and business partnership, caused by a perception of obligation to dissolve the contract

  • Socially approved litigation, often on behalf of the lowest classes (including animals and other natural beings)

  • If Shani is negatively disposed, the government may become a temporary agent of accusations and threats

  • physicians are elderly, sober, experienced, but overworked.

  • should one be a physician, very heavy workload, many patients, chronic ailments

  • Marriage harmony suffers from the weight of public duty. However Shani resists divorce and Shani gochara via 6 tends to freeze the disagreements into a chronic state rather than permit any sort of resolution. Neither is divorce generally permitted (unless the native is simultaneously having a Vimshottari period of rogesha-6

Chronic servitude, often in the workplace. Does not harm the income - in fact could increase the paycheck due to overtime work. However, the overtime hours may be oppressive to health.

Potential for theft in the workplace, often an"inside job" since Shani does not eject the criminal element but rather regulates it. During the 2.3 years of Shani's travel via bhava-6, loans granted to others are likely not repaid.

Splendid transit for working in jails, medical clinics, service to drug addicts, thieves, the very poorest classes, prostitutes, those locked in a chronic state of animosity and blaming, other exploited and oppressed persons. The problems are chronic for all involved, deeply embedded in their social class consciousness.

One who understands and accepts the chronic insolvability of the problems in the environment during this transit will succeed greatly under the Jyotisha dictum that a papagraha in a papabhava allows one to manage one's enemies, forestall debt, and generally prevent victimization because one's expectations are properly aligned with reality.

Problems related to domestic animals (such as veterinary expenses) medicines, and crimes of every type. Temporary but severe delays in delivery of medical treatment, access to physicians and necessary drugs. Pressure of patient-load.

In bhava-6, duties of nursing the ill, enduring underpaid labor, or ministering to the indigent may prevent progress in the philosophical or scholarly professions (6 = 9th from 10th and 10th from 9th). Higher expressions of service such as professional medicine and religious leadership become unsustainable while lower ranking ministries of mandatory service may be imposed by Shani.

A common scenario = temporary 'slavery' to caring for an ill population, such as a health worker coping with a disease epidemic, or a service provider dealing with the endless physical and social problems of the extremely poor. The pressure is produced by conditions that are embedded in the social structure (Shani) and chronic and plagued by insufficient resources.

Gochara Shani's duty roster including the responsibility to govern environments which feature problematizing, medicating, serving, analyzing, criticizing, argumentation and litigation. Shani's material-plane work occupies all of one's Time.

One may be restricted in ability to manage the health and welfare of one's servants - and the service class in general. Servants, employees and Children from a second marriage (6 = 5th from 2nd) may become problematic due to their health concerns, their debts, or their animosities toward the native.

When Shani transits bhava-6 the native has "senior" status in all conflicts and one will outlast all adversaries. Therefore in the end (within the 2.3 years of this transit) one will have the power to regulate and contain all enemies. Shani-6 neither wins nor loses the conflict, but simply keeping them in fixed status whilst the work goes on.

Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding loans, management monies borrowed on credit, usurious situations. Insufficient ability to repay loans, resulting in penalties for non-payment.

Sade Sati in ripubhava can bring the creditor to the doorstep of one's home (Chandra). Lawsuit or other complaint may ensue. Potential era of legal bankruptcy. Continuing poverty despite a heavy workload. See Sade Sati in 12 bhava for more details.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Gochara-Shani via Bhava-7

Assuredly, Shani delays -- yet in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny.

Zukra is friendly toward Shani; therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.

Effects

One may experience traction in all negotiations. Many attempts may be required in order to locate points of mutual interest. Repeated efforts are required to achieve a Final agreement. Even when the contract deal seems imminent, a new regulatory requirement may arise which postpones the conclusion of bargaining once again.

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment,, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the core interpersonal relationship agreements, including counseling and advising partnerships.

In kendra, possibility of success only by repeated and extraordinary effort.

Stalled movement toward marriage alliance. If alliance exists however, Shani-gochara-7 indicates loyalty and fidelity to the legal contract. The mate works constantly and there is a heavy sense of duty in the environment which may outweigh both affection and mutual pleasure.

Nevertheless Shani gains temporary dig-balavia 7. Despite burdensome duties for both partners in the alliance, the partnership outcome is respectable, dignified, and socially approved.

Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding unfulfilled legal contracts, fixed but dysfunctional alliances, insufficiently resourced brokerage duties, obligation to remain in arrangements, bargains and deals which produce insufficient results. The designated helpmate is limited in their ability to help.

Sade Sati in jayabhava is more severe in effect, and often yields an emotionally painful extra workload for the contractual partners which temporarily pulls all attention away from pleasure (Zukra) and toward fulfillment of social-government rules. Heavy duties or penalties for previous actions may thrust upon the marriage partners or business partners, which they must accept yet do not truly possess the resources to complete the task. See Sade Sati in 12 bhava for more details.

Gochara-Shani via Bhava-8

suspended between identities

frozen into the liminal state, paralyzed unmoving between previous and future identities

unable to rejuvenate or reinvigorate, yet remains in the original body

comfortable results : in traumatic times, Shani-gochara-8 prevents extreme self-destructive acts

Identity-changing situations begin with a sudden upheaval. Then the energy slowdown: Shani gochara-8 imposes an unmoving condition of Shani-stasis for 2.3 years. One's new identity holds a state of paralysis while unknown, unacknowledged forces continue to build toward activation of the ultimate material identity transformation.

Material evidence of the new external form (still containing the original Self) does not fully emerge until the completion of Shani's journey via 8.

The single most difficult transit of durosha-karaka (agent of slow) Shani through all the 12 bhava is this one, gochara-Shani via 8. Randhrasthana is neither a kendra nor a trine and 8 is owned by Shani's enemy Mangala. None of the potentially beneficial results of a Shani transit are likely to occur in this bhava.

The potential frustration of Shani-stasis in bhava-8 which is specifically designed to renovate, reinvigorate, and recycle should not be underestimated.

The"stuck-and-frozen" or"stuck-and-burning" or"stuck-and-directionless " experience of Shani-gochara-8 may be much compounded by a concurrent

  • bhukti of recycler randhresha-8

  • bhukti of frozen Shani

  • bhukti of natural randhresha-8 burning Mangala

  • bhukti of Ketu co-lord of bhava-8: scattering, nebulizing, undirected"beheading" Ketu.

Shani's purpose during this 2.3 year event is to retard and regulate the mysterious movements of unseen forces which normally cause traumatic shock and terror of the unknown. Shani imposes a 'doldrums' stasis which prevents premature transformation and upholds some portion of the previous identity so that the native's life is buffered from the threat of psychological collapse.

In retrospect, one may be able to admit that Shani's change-blocking resistance preserved enough of their previous identity to prevent suicide or other extreme self-destructive reactions to catastrophic change.

Examples of 8th-related sudden-energy-release (8) shocks tamped down by pressure-imposing Shani may include unexpected widowhood, unwanted divorce, traumatic invasions via crime, natural disaster, or surgery - or even the crisis (8) of internal attack by genetically caused major disease which was lurking there all along. Paralysis of movement in matters of disaster and invasion may indeed be a good thing.

However, for matters involving less violent threats to the identity, duroshya Shani can impose some highly frustrating delays. Renovation, recycling, reinvigoration, rejuvenation -- all stall.

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the hidden assets, internal ("invisible") sexual-reproductive organs and the human endocrine system which supports sexual process. Limitations upon secret relationships. Slowing of veiled healings. Scarcity of resources available to pursue transformative practices.

Confidential information and hidden resources are particularly well sealed, so that detectives, psychiatrists, and drillers find this transit most frustrating. Financial inheritance and legacy fortunes are temporarily oppressed.

Changes do occur but only when lawful. Carefully regulated changes of identity occur now which are socially approved and conducted in an environment of scarce resources.

Sudden, forced changes are much reduced. In areas where a quick transformation is wanted, such as recovery from medical surgery, the revitalization period may experience numerous setbacks en route to the final healing.

Karmic obligation to endure identity changes while retaining the existing physical body (not death) such as:

  • widowhood or divorce from first spouse (8 = 2nd-from-7th death of mate).

  • traumatic upheaval due to natural disaster;

  • catastrophic crisis of faith (8 = 12th from 9)

  • sudden physical relocation due to loss of homeland (3) -- exempli gratia, refugee of war (6) (8 = 3rd from 6)

  • healing crisis getting stuck in mid-cycle due to resistance during psychiatric or tantrik process

In extreme cases, severe loss of hidden assets or loss of internal reproductive organs (such as hysterectomy).

Regulation of the investigative, discovering, revealing, depth-plumbing, psychiatric, disaster responding, dangerous, tantrik, occult "classified" activities which one previously had pursued with independence.

Shani's work occupies all of one's Time. Legitimation via proof of the truth of mysteries and covert knowledge. Weight of the burden of leadership in areas where no fixed leader survives.

Professor Shani adds to longevity during His transit via 8 *except* when He is also L-2 or yuvatipathi-7 . If Shani is a natural marana-karaka, then His transit via 8 can utilize the karma of exit from the physical form - but the exit process is long, staged, and drawn-out.

Shani can put social pressure upon hidden liaisons, delay the meeting of secret lovers, and apply the laws of karma to one's pursuit of secret knowledge making the process of initiation and gaining access to occult realms painstakingly slow.

Hidden wealth and occult truths must be approached with neutrality and acceptance that Shani uses Time as His primary tool of transformation. However, the transformation process will ultimately succeed as it too follows the karmic law.

Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding limitations upon action in situations which involvesudden onset ofun-diagnosable illness; violent upheaval or invasion f ollowed by 2-plus years of remaining paralyzed in the unmoving, liminal state between identities.

Responsibility to manage - but not cure or resolve - poisons, attacks, or onslaught of radically transformative forces. The forces (Mangala) may be active on the spiritual, mental, financial, social, emotional, or physical levels. The forces may originate within the body or the forces may suddenly arise within the external environment. Shani"freezes " the action in any case; the forces arise, the attack occurs - and then, no substantial action (Shani blocks Mangala) for a period of approximately 2.3 years.

Naturally, the concurrent bhukti-pathi is a major determiner of outcome; and if either Shani or Mangala or the lord of bhava-8 happens to be the concurrent bhukti-pathi, then the frustrating drama of freeze-action, seizure, or paralysis in a state of siege can be very much heightened.

Public or private upheaval or disaster. May be external e.g. weather-related or social upheaval. May be internal -- exempli gratia, sudden onset of mysteriously caused disease.

Freeze-action, non-intervention, non-participation of the marital in-laws (8) and the joint assets of the spousal union.

Insufficiency of the shared values of the partnership. Not enough stored value to sustain the alliance. The mate is temporarily for 2.3 years unable to contribute value into the shared coffers of the union.

After the initial upheaval, the identity-changing situation enters stasis both unresolvable and unsustainable during the transit of Shani. (Applies equally to business partnership or marital alliance.)

Government rules or punitive social conventions may prevent the use of innovative techniques to address the threat.

fixed but dysfunctional alliances, insufficiently resourced brokerage duties, obligation to remain in arrangements, bargains and deals which produce insufficient results. The designated helpmate is limited in their ability to help.

Sade Sati in jayabhava is more severe in effect than a mere transit of Shani. Sade Sati may yield an emotionally painful extra workload which temporarily pulls all attention away from pleasure (Zukra) and toward fulfillment of social-government rules. Heavy duties or penalties for previous actions may thrust upon the marriage partners or business partners, which they must accept yet do not truly possess the resources to complete the task. See Sade Sati in 12 bhava for more details.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Gochara Shani via Bhava-9

Certainly, Shani delays -- yet in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Guru is neutral toward Shani; therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.

Effects

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the religious convictions, authentic personal spirituality and wisdom quality of knowledge.

Orthodoxy required. Public piety required. Ritual duties required. The father may require extra effort from the native; he may fall short of resources, have trouble with the government, or suffer the constrictions of age. World travel, although often required by the duty roster, is wearisome with many delays.

If Shani = karmesha-10 , Shani's transit via 12th-from-10th can signify erosion of interest in the professional empowerments, with a preference for reflective rather than executive roles.

Shani imposes the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law. For professors, heavy philosophical teaching load. For the guru-figure, Shani introduces thick-headed, intractable or lower qualities in the sisya-figures. For temple priests, scarcity of resources and lack of generosity on the part of temple patrons.

For the disciplined scholar, Shani gochara dharmasthana is generally a good time to undertake long-term studies of sacred scripture, philosophical teaching rotations which require both rigorous scholarship and world travel, or priestly training in liturgical ritual. Ideally the program of study or training = 2.3 or 2.5 years.

Generally, heavy responsibilities regarding unfulfilled expectations in matters of preaching and priesthood. Fi xed but dysfunctional roles in theology, philosophy, study of sacred scripture. Insufficiently resourced priestly duties, obligation to remain in teaching or preaching positions which produce insufficient results. The father or guru are limited in their ability to help.

Sade Sati in dharmabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift between the native and their religious philosophy which imposes a crisis of faith. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.

Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Should Shani have a friendly relationship with both the lord of dharmabhava and occupants of bhava-9, Shani' transit via dharmasthana can be a favorable experience involving executive management of the sahangha or congregation of believers.

For example,

  • if yogakaraka Shani (for Thula lagna and Vrishabha lagna) transits bhava-9 while Shani or Budha rule this house while Zukra or Shani or Budha occupy the bhava,

  • then the native could be expected to return to the university for an advanced diploma, or undertake a demanding but highly respectable course of world travel for teaching-preaching purposes, or accept a heavy workload as an honored head of a religious institution or scholarly group.

The workload would be undeniable, but for those with several mutually supportive graha all engaged with the dharmasthana, Shani gochara via 9 connotes disciplined scholarship in high religion, top ranks of priesthood, professorial duties which bring public visibility and respected.

During Shani's 2.3 year transit via-9, orthodoxy in belief and theory is required and daunting amounts of social ordering work such as convening of large decision-making bodies, complex revisions of sacred liturgy, writing of policies for scholarly institutions, and governance of professors-priests-and-scholars (otherwise known as "herding cats ").

The payoff can be priestly credibility in the congregation of believers -- albeit at the cost of true wisdom since gochara Shani temporarily oppresses the generous inclusiveness of Professor Guru .

Nevertheless one who undertakes the legislative, governing, regulatory tasks of ordering the sangha can obtain a materially good career result by earning (Shani) institutional authority (Shani) in the higher ranks of universities and organized religious sects (9).

Gochara Shani via kendra Bhava-10

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the public dignity, reputation, and social leadership roles.

Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Shani gochara via his own bhava typically delivers lawful, respectable results albeit slowly and with much necessary deliberation.

Possibility of success only by repeated effort.

Stalled movement toward social recognition of professional standing.

As a rule Shani has dignity in karmasthana where the public grants respect to one who demonstrates qualities of diligence in material works, persistence in the face of obstacles, and lawful execution of duties.

Sade Sati in karmabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift between the native and their leadership roles or public reputation, which imposes a crisis of social legitimacy. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.

Good Material Results in swabhava

Typically, Shani produces His best material results in bhava-11, the site of associative and distributive networks. Vriddhibhava produces social-material gains via awards for achievement, marketplace income, and regulated exchanges of information-goods-services along the system pathways. Shani is all about the Rules.

When the nativity shows harmonious relationships between lord of 11, resident graha in 11, and the prevailing bhukti-pati, it is possible to realize significant material gains and network participation approvals during Shani gochara-11.

Not only gains of financial type but also other social-network goals may be accomplished. Success in goal achievement presumes that the native is willing to follow Shani's protocol of long waits, strict rules, many incremental (and some lateral) steps, many examinations, and a consistently heavy bureaucratic or regulatory workload.

The succeed in reaching material goals during Shani-gochara-11, the goals must be primarily marketplace-driven (Shani) and not distinctively personal (Surya). For example, one may achieve an advanced diploma in an an economically important technical field of study but not a diploma in poetry or philosophy. A 5th marriage ceremony may be realized. For the social-progress aficionado, significant social-progress objectives may be met under Shani's auspice, but the goal of extended marketplace participation must be met in a slow and absolutely lawful fashion.

However, before getting too excited about gochara Shani's profit potential, it may be wise to keep in mind the traditional Jewish wisdom, repeated in Matthew 19:23-26; Mark 10:24-25; and Luke 18:24-25, regarding the practical likelihood of camels being able to pass through the eye of a needle. Shani's accomplishments in bhava-11 are strictly social-material.

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Gochara Shani via Bhava-11

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the marketplace mobility, profit and income, networks of association, recognition in the assembly, membership in large groups of friends.

Slow, careful, institutionally regulated progress toward goals.

Always Shani delays -- but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Shani gochara via his own bhava typically delivers lawful, respectable results albeit slowly and with much necessary deliberation.

  • Troubles for the elder sibling, mainly in the form of delays.

  • Does not harm the income. Paycheck tends to remain unchanged while workload gets temporarily heavier.

  • Goals will be reached albeit very slowly by following a careful, lawful step-wise process.


Shani in transit via swabhava-11 does not harm the marketplace earnings but He imposes strict regulations upon the links between participants. Often there is some pressure from government legislation and officers of the law. However if the laws are followed Shani does not interrupt the profit-taking of the market interactions.

Similarly, community networking and progressive social policy are supported so long as the community's goals and methods are legitimate from the perspective of the great society.

In general the 11th-type behaviors of setting and reaching goals, earning income, and developing a reliable social network of affinity-associations will be sustained.

The elder sibling may become a source of extra duty; the sibling may experience insufficient access to resources or the constrictions of age. If Shani is also 7th-from-11th vidyapathi-5 or 2nd-from-11th ruler-of-12 , death of an aged elder sibling is possible.

If Professor Shani is uncomfortable , so much time may be required to attend to duties of managing networks, earning profits, and achieving material goals that one's friends may feel ignored, be temporarily alienated and depart. Prizes awarded for past accomplishments, one of the features of bhava-11, are generally suppressed during Shani gochara but will resume once Shani travels out from vriddhisthana-11.

Overall, gochara Shani produces modest incremental gains during his 2.3 year journey via 11. One must work a bit harder to earn the same, and marketplace exchanges tend to stagnate or be heavily regulated. Conditions of economic downturn or scarcity may constrain the earnings, but the native tends to respond to Professor Shani's pinching with a commitment to work harder. Typically, there is neither unusual gain nor unusual loss but rather doubled work for the same profit.

Temporary separation from elder siblings or friends due to work-duty pressures is not unduly harmful unless conditions are exacerbated by the Vimshottari dasha timelord or multiple graha are oppressed by the Shani transit.

Sade Sati in vriddhibhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift between the native and their modes of engagement in the marketplace, which imposes a crisis of legitimacy that freezes income or paralyzes the capacity for network-participation. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.

Gochara Shani via Bhava-12

Shani delays but in swabhava of graha friendly or neutral toward Shani, He does not deny. Guru the natural lord of 12 is neutral toward Shani, therefore the final results of Shani's 2.3 year transit will indeed manifest in an elegant, streamlined, minimalistic, unencumbered, mature and realistic fashion.

However before He proceeds into the next bhava, strictly factual Shanaicarya will impose full austerity in the current bhava. Barring resistance from other factors such as incoming drishti or the concurrent bhukti-pati, gochara Professor Shani will make His best effort to remove all unnecessary appendages, assumptions, adhesions, accessories, embroiderings, and ornaments of the fantasy-mind which may distract from a neutral and pragmatic understanding of matters of the bhava.

Real-World Effects

  • Chronic enemies of the marriage (12 = 6th-from-7th) or chronic ailments of the spouse (12 = 6th-from-7th) are maintained not alleviated.

  • temporary sleep deprivation

  • If unmarried, neutrality toward marital difficulties of others.

Most of Shani's pressure affects the subconscious expectations . The troubles experienced during transit of Shani-via-12 are less the effect of external material pressures and more the result of fantasies, imaginings, dreams, visions, worries, and below-the-surface fears .

Pinching, reducing, restricting, constricting, drying, containment, repression, excessive realism and profound sobriety of the privacy, personal imagination, access to sanctuary and spiritual retreat.

Heavy workload and scarcity of resources if long journeys are required by other factors such as a bhukti of dharmesha-9 or ruler-of-12 ; but normally a Shani transit via 12 indicates delayed or temporarily blocked permission to travel abroad, disallowing movement in distant lands.


Positive Outcomes: Maturity, Sobriety, Orderlines

Splendid period for structured research and study, particularly carefully regulated laboratory process and working sabbatical.

The focus is relentlessly interior for 2.3 years while Shani travels via vyayabhava. As with any conditions in bhava-12"the best puja is seva ".

Charitable service to those in materially compromised circumstances is suitable for anyone enduring a Shani-12 transit. Consider offering Seva for those confined to hospitals, dormitories, monasteries, refugee camps, or prisons can burn off the karma of mental imprisonment in one's own imagination which is the source of all constriction during the Shani transit via 12.


Ancestor spirits can become a source of extra work for the native. Dream interpreters and clairsentient readers may become overburdened with difficult imagery. Hospital workers, sanctuary keepers, monastery managers experience a heavier than normal workload with limited recognition for their efforts.

An attitude of neutrality toward sanctuary environments, toward one's own imagination and vis-a-vis the astral plane in particular will be essential.


Sade Sati in vyayabhava is more severe in effect, causing often an emotional rift between the native and their embedded subconscious expectations (or cherished fantasies) which imposes a crisis of vision that freezes the daily dream-instruction or paralyzes the intuition. For more details, see Sade Sati in 12 bhava.

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