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Graha * Samchara


  1. Chandra in bhava-1
  2. Chandra in bhava-2
  3. Chandra in bhava-3
  4. Chandra in bhava-4 * digbala
  5. Chandra in bhava-5
  6. Chandra in bhava-6
  7. Chandra in bhava-7
  8. Chandra in bhava-8
  9. Chandra in bhava-9
  10. Chandra in bhava-10
  11. Chandra in bhava-11
  12. Chandra in bhava-12

Gochara * Samchara Shani

Sade Sati

Saturn's transit contact natal Moon

Effects according to

Chandra in the 12 Bhava

Elarata Saturn

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"freezing" (Shani) of the flow (Chandra)

Unsustainability * The Ordeal

Sade Sati Case Studies

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Sade Saati in the 12 Rashi

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The usual suspects: agents of moist, flowing Chandra get"pinched" by dry, static Shani In every bhava, the 2.3 year occurrence of Sade Sati enforces Shani strictures upon Chandra rhythmic, pulsing, nourishing, caretaking flow.

Sade Sati occurring in any bhava imposes a pinch of scarcity, duty, and responsibility toward parents, caretakers, providers of shelter and nourishment, schoolteachers. Shani seizes the customary flow of reliable rhythms and routines; He desiccates the roots of the home culture.

Sade Sati is ultimately clarifying, maturing and Empowering Psychologically, it is the karmic task of Sade Sati to eliminate some variety of false belief about the source of nourishment and protection. Humans have a strong tendency to project their internal spiritual powers upon outside objects . The most common objects are the parents, the mate, the teachers, the boss, or the friends - but there can be other idols as well.

The purpose of the Sade Sati is to give"emotional closure" to a long-cherished but inaccurate belief that someone or something outside of oneself possesses the power of life-sustenance.

Characteristics of the twelve bhava (below) add more profile information to the profile of the object or environment upon which the native's own life-force empowerment has been inadvertently projected.

Shani Improves with Age All effects of Shani, including Shani Mahadasha, transits of Shani, drishti of Shani, and effects of Shani's natal placements, improve considerably as the native grows chronologically older.

After Shani matures at 36, the experience of Shani's characteristic limitations and restrictions is generally easier to accept and integrate. The"improvement" is due to the native's own perceptions having slowed and become more orderly.

As one becomes more socially normalized and conventionalized during the aging process, Shani's behavior begins to be perceived as more cohesive than oppressive; more structuring than restrictive; as more the lawful outcome of systems of cause-and-effect, and less as the random punishment of a fearsome overlord.

Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-1

Sade Sati occurs in Bhava 1

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment that is needed to maintain one's vitality and unique body-based identity.

Stopped flow of emotional resources needed to ease dynamic physical movement.

Physical symptoms of age such as dryness, skin wrinkling, stiffness, tiredness which will recede after the end of this transit. Various geriatric conditions. Symptoms of elderliness occur regardless of the chronological age.


Relationships

All relationships temporarily for 2.3 years may acquire a quality of burdensomeness as the native feels oppressed by low vitality and reduced permission to continue the individual survival.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-1 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.


  • Following onset of mother's severe mental illness at the beginning of the daughter's sade sati period, the beautiful bipolar mother of On Golden Pond 1937- drama-commerce Jane Fonda, Frances Ford Seymour, committed suicide by slitting her throat on14-Apr-1950, (young Jane's age 13) * daughter's Zukra-Rahu period * Zukra-yuti-Rahu-4 during Sade Sati

In kendra, possibility of material success -- but only by sustained, repeated and extraordinary effort.

In extreme cases, stalled movement toward the physical integrity through restricting the flow of waters within the body. One becomes unable to float.

  • the famed English novelist A Room of One's Own 1882-1941 Virginia Woolf committed suicide during her Sade Sati age 59 in March-1941 during her Rahu-Shukra period, Shukra rules maraka-2. Her method was to load her pockets with rocks so that she was unable to float in the cold water of the River Ouse. She drowned.

  • Her Sade Sati in Mesha-8 was combined with a daunting, ultimately unbearable pair of additional restrictions: first, a Saturn return to her nichha-Shani-8 and secondly her lifelong Nishturabashi Yoga.

Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-2

Sade Sati occurs in dhana-bhava-2

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's historical memory, relationship to family history, speech and sight, and accumulated wealth.

Dammed current of emotional resources needed to sustain the family lineage. Blockage in the flow of bodily waters needed to sing, to speak, to eat, to chew, to swallow.

Resistance to the intuitive response that allows one to speak the truth, to express historical values, to sustain collections, to gather food.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-2 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

Fear of saying too much, knowing too much, being held accountable for the transgressions of family members. Tendency to temporarily disassociate from family; bloodline seems unsustainable.

In extreme cases: fear of separation from the birth family, physical expressions of stalled movement toward speech or memory (such as dementia). Fear of loss of right-eyesight - usually temporary.

Samchara Shani contact radical Chandra in bhava-3

Incoherent cohort

Sade Sati occurs in Sahaja- Bhava-3

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's mental activity, small-group and team process, business administration, relationship to siblings and communication.

Stopped flow of emotional resources needed to sustain the cohesion of the thought-group, work-team, ensemble. Resistance to the manual action of writing, offering explanations, giving instruction, or making reports and announcements.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-3 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

Disinclined toward group cooperation, collaboration, or participation with the cohort due to the temporary drying of the emotional source energy. Mental process may appear to seize and cramp. It is not actually the logical mentality that is arrested but rather the intuitive emotion drive underlying the mentality.

In extreme cases: fear of overwhelming responsibility for group success, fear of loss of mental capacity, severe depression, fear of separation or physical loss of a beloved younger sibling or emotionally supportive team-mate.

Samchara Shani contact radical Chandra in bhava-4

Drying and scarcity in the moist- soothing and nourishing resources of the home and homeland farm fish modes of transport schools parents shelters roots

Sade Sati occurs in Bhava-4

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's physical, emotional and cultural security and protection.

Physical or metaphorical dried and brittle "roots ". Unsustainable routines in home-life home-building sheltering nourishment parenting schooling farming fishing transportation.

  • Stalled movement toward defense of property, school diploma, completion of examination and granting of license to practice, all species of cultural validation, obtainment of vehicle, establishment of The place of belonging.

Fear of failure to pass examinations and acquire licensing.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-4 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

  • UK-Princess of Wales 1961-1997 Diana Spencer * Chandra-yuti-Ketu Kumbha-4. Her Saade-Sati began with Shani's ingress into Makara in March-1990 and finished with Shani's egress from Meena in April-1998. During the first third, a Saturn-Return and oppression to nichha-Guru-3 caused pressure from media-messaging and publication (biography released 1992). From March 1993 until June 1995, Shani's transit via Kumbha contacted her Chandra-Ketu very close combination in Kumbha-Dhaniztha-3. The scandalous television interview, which she apparently arranged without "permission" (Shani contact Ketu) occurred in 1995 as Shani samchara formed a tight opposition 7th-angle to not only her Rahu-yuti-Mangala-Singha-10 public reputation, but also Shani's drishti contacted her Jyeztha radical lagna. The public-and-personal pressure was immense. The final portion of the Sade Saati as Shani entered Meena-5 endured from June-1995 until April 1998 causing some separation from her children. It was not long after gochara Rahu entered Simha-10 in late June-1997 during her Guru-Rahu chidra-dasha that fleshdeath occurred in Aug-1997. (Surya-Budha-8 suggest an abbreviated longevity).

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

In kendra, possibility of material success and social recognition, but only by repeated and extraordinary effort.

In extreme cases: fear of loss of home or homeland, drying of agricultural crops, drying of fishing waters or fish are inaccessible, inability to sustain the national citizenship, or fear of separation from either parent typically the mother.

Samchara Shani contact radical Chandra in bhava-5

Sade Sati occurs in Bhava 5

Likely manifestations of Sade Sati in bhava-5 include separations, both emotional and material, from the children and from romantic lovers; political oppression or scandal within a conservative regime; and a deep frustration with delayed recognition for one's creativity, intelligence, or entitlements.

Positive outcomes may include emotional maturity enforced by a need to study human psychology; appreciation for the weight of cultural prejudice and judgment in overall perceptions of personal security; and a slow, careful rebuilding of foundational relationships that have been broken or exhausted by external circumstances, especially the parent-child relationship.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-5 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's personal genius, creative intelligence, divinely inspired productivity, reproductive fertility, and celebrity or fame.

  • Stalled movement toward political entitlements, failure of election campaign.

  • Dried-up of gambling luck, Stalled movement toward winnings from games and speculations.

  • Stalled movement toward royal privilege, theatrical role, deprivation of center-stage attentions and quieting of applause.

  • In extreme cases, dried procreativity or fear of separation from a living child.


In bhava-5, it is often theatrical-political duties which make romance (5) unsustainable. At first, one may accept a more central, visible duty roster (Shani) because it seems like more responsibility will lead to more legitimacy and ego-approval.

When Chandra is in 5, gochara Shani's duty roster suddenly comes to dominate all the habitual (chandra) amusements, entertainments, romances, expressions of genius, dramatic performances, charms of children, speculative intelligence, political empowerments, celebrity fashions, and game-playing pastimes which one previously enjoyed. Shani's work occupies all of one's Time.

Emotional needs are ignored, scheduled away, denied. One may be unable to properly parent one's children due to the weight of the burden of managing public affairs (Shani).

Much effort is required to defend the public reputation (Shani). The children, feeling unimportant, may become temporarily alienated.

Romantic lovers (5), feeling that the native has no time available to devote to the romance, may depart.

Creative, literary, and dramatic self-expression is shelved until a less stressful life period; its brilliance remains frozen in time until this seven-and-a-half year transit is complete.

Samchara Shani contact radical Chandra in bhava-6

Sade Sati occurs in Roga Bhava-6

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's bodily health balance, leading to betrayal of marital and business agreement, poverty, victimization, crime, physical and emotional toxicity and social conflict * including conditions of war.

  • Extraordinary disagreement in marriage and business partnership.

  • Litigation and a litigious environment overall

  • accusations and threats, often false

  • medical pressure, wrong medications (gets corrected)

  • Marriage contract seems unsustainable due to pressure of material circumstances which force separation and delay .

Can't get along with anybody. Forced into servitude. Forced to associate with lowlife. Theft in the workplace. Oppressive trouble from female members of the service class.

Much pressure upon the Mother, to the extent that her labors could be fatal.

Loss of cattle or loss caused by domestic animals, medicines, and crimes of every type. Loss through police action, bribery and corruption, bad loans, theft, jail time, and illness.

Exacerbation of chronic lifetime internal conflicts, which manifest as conditions of physical, financial, and emotional illness .

In extreme cases, fear of loss of protection, betrayal by parents, crimes of war.

Emotional crisis due to loss of agreement in marriage or partnership (6 = 12th-from-7th). Exacerbated effects upon marriage due to simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-6 Shani drishti limits the response of the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.


In bhava-6 Sade Sati may impose strict duties of caring for victims and yet the victims are"frozen in distress " being unwilling or unable to improve their fate. Duties include nursing the chronically ill, endless agricultural labor and other forms of servitude, or ministering to the indigent may prevent progress in the philosophical or scholarly professions (6 = 9th from 10th and 10th from 9th).

Higher expressions of service such as professional medicine and religious leadership may become unsustainable while lower service duties such as household chores or even some type of slavery may be imposed by Shani. A common outcome is temporary 'slavery' to caring for an ill parent or working amongst the extremely poor. If Shani is involved, possibility that a parent might force the native child into drug addiction * human trafficking * prostitution.

At first, one may accept a more central, socially visible duty roster (Shani) because it seems like more responsibility will lead to more public legitimacy and ego-approval.

Yet when Chandra occupies Ari Bhava, gochara Shani's duty roster suddenly comes to dominate all the habitual problematizing, medicating, serving, analyzing, criticizing, argumentation and litigation pastimes which one previously enjoyed in the portfolio of Chandra-6. Shani's material-achievement work occupies all of one's Time. Emotional needs are ignored, disregarded, belittled.

One may be unable to properly protect the health and welfare of one's children due to the weight of the burden of managing public affairs.

  • For a mother, the crisis of feeling unable to protect her children due to exhaustion from external social obligations may provoke a divorce (6) during the Sade Sati.

Much effort is required to defend the public reputation (Shani). One's parents are often chronically ill or addicted when Chandra occupies the Satkona , and Sade-Sati occurring in 6 can annihilate a fragile, ill parent, enforcing a regime of self-parenting upon even a young child.

Children from a second marriage (6 = 5th from 2nd) feeling unimportant, may become temporarily alienated or taken away by government authorities (Shani). Servants and animals, feeling overburdened, may depart. Intuitive (Chandra) ministries of service must be shelved until a less stressful life period; the environment remains oppressive and emotional nourishment may be scarce until this seven-and-a-half year transit is complete.

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Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-7

"What doesn't kill you will make you stronger."

Ultimately, in ways that humans can barely fathom, justice does reign supreme within Earth's karmic system.

Sade Sati occurs in Bhava-7

Forced to accept oppressive contracts. Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's core interpersonal relationship agreements, including counseling and advising partnerships.

Stalled movement toward making agreements in business partnership or other alliance

In kendra, Sade Sati offers the possibility of material success and social recognition, but only via repeated and extraordinary efforts.

Although indeed a difficult period of life, the Sade Sati via bhava-7 may produce a very valuable ending to a significantly karmic relationship and a crucial"payoff" that may well have been one of the leading reasons for undertaking the present incarnation.

Sade-Sati in bhava-7 is a special case due to the Jyotisha rule that Shani the Professor of Social Justice receives dig-bala * dignity in the seventh bhava of lawful contacts 10th-from-10th. Sade Sati in bhava-7 imposes a legal settlement of certain long-outstanding, long-imbalanced Chandra-related matters -- most commonly involving the parents or a parenting-type of spouse.

Therefore the results of the Sade-Sati occurring in bhava-7 are key to the success of the incarnation for one born with Chandra in bhava-7.

The"usual suspects " who form the dramatic center of the Sade-Sati are either the parents (normally the mother, but with preference for the parent who is the primary caretaker) or the parental spouse. For more about the marriage behaviors of the native and their partners particularly the tendency of this placement to attract a caretaking partner, see 7th from Chandra-7

In extreme cases, death of marriage partner.


From my files: 50-something single professional woman who acquired custodial care of her elderly 70-something mother at the onset of the daughter's Sade Sati. The mother-daughter relationship had been emotionally codependent. Despite her career success, the daughter had not succeeded in breaking away from the mother's domination.

Codependency is often a feature of 7th from Chandra-7 where a strong Chandra-7 may indicate that the mother insinuates herself as the child's adult primary partner.

An interesting example is the notoriously clinging mother of Gospel of Wealth 1835-1919 Andrew Carnegie.

The old mother (Shani-Chandra) had advanced Alzheimer's Disease and the daughter naturally accepted responsibility for mother's elder care. Initially the daughter paid for top quality care for mom and visited the old woman regularly (Shani). However mom did not recognize the daughter due to the brain ailment thus the daughter's loyalty and devotion to their relationshipwere never acknowledged. As the mother's condition worsened, the care became more expensive, draining the finances of the daughter and at the same time the mother's dementia increased causing outright hostility toward the daughter upon whom she cursed and spat.

The time and expense of caring for mother began to feel unsustainable as the exhaustion, frustration, and worrywas causing the daughter was perform poorly in her brokerage work (7). The daughter's finances were severely pinched by Sade-Sati in 7 = (debt) 6th-from-2nd; she had to spend all of her savings on the care of an old woman who had been a difficult life-partner and who in her final years was nasty and crude toward the daughter.

The daughter lost her comfortable apartment when the rent was raised; in order to continue funding her mother's care, she downgraded into a cheaper flat (Shani transits 4th-from-4th housing). Finally toward the end of the Sade-Sati as samchara Shani transited into Bhava-8 = 2nd-from-Chandra, her mother died.

Throughout the Sade Sati, the daughter had maintained her professional job. Shani grants public dignity in bhava-7. Although the mother's behavior had been emotionally hurtful, the daughter's peer colleagues (7) had been understanding and supportive while the care situation dragged on. She had spent her life savings on the terminal care of a mother who neither recognized her daughter nor expressed any sort of gratitude for the sacrifice that her daughter offered. There had been no reward for effort except the closure of death.

Yet, at the end, the unrewarded, unacknowledged daughter felt the closure"of a hundred lifetimes ". It was a colossal payback - and a just one. Within a few years following her mother's decease, the daughter was able to rebuild her financial reserves. She found that having drained her coffers - both financially and emotionally - she could rebuild her relationships in ways that much better suited her, without needing to always ask permission from her mother. Indeed she said that she felt better balanced and more able to care for others, knowing the wellspring of emotional nourishment was inside of her and not (as she had once believed) inside of her mother.

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Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-8

Sade Sati in Bhava-8 may produce sudden and shocking conditions, yet often this powerful movement of Samchara Shani will also produce the hard-earned revelation of invaluable mysterious truths.

Outsiders may have been able to warn the native but warnings were not heeded. Or, the situation may shock everyone in the environment, such as a natural disaster.

  • During his Sade Sati in 1923, Knowledge of Higher Worlds 1861-1925 Rudolf Steiner witnessed the revenge-arson burning of his prized monument to the interlinked community of Anthroposophical spiritual seekers, the Goetheanum. Simultaneous Shani-Rahu period; natal Rahu drishti to Shani.

The nativity with natal Chandra in bhava-8 is constitutionally prone to emotional secrecy; therefore when Sade Sati strikes it is doubly difficult for such a native to ask for and receive help. One feels the "freeze" of emotional flow; social validation and support are often withheld until the native exhibits conformity and compliance to the social order (Shani). One tends to favor sudden changes emotionally, finding them cathartic; however when Shani contacts Chandra there is surprising and lasting resistance to moving forward in the cycle of changes.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-8 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's hidden assets, internal ("invisible")sexual-reproductive organs And The human endocrine system which supports sexual process , secret relationships, veiled healing and transformative practices.

Sudden, forced changes create a state of social-emotional emergency.

As a result of catastrophic change, one may have lost one's previous identity; but there is resistance to re-generating and finding a new identity.

Examples:

  • widowhood or divorce

  • traumatic upheaval due to natural disaster;

  • catastrophic job loss (whether voluntary or not) or sudden physical relocation, e.g. refugee

  • "healing crisis " getting stuck due to resistance during intentional transformations via psychiatric or tantrik intervention.

  • sudden death of the mother (Chandra) or profound identity change for her

In extreme cases, severe loss of hidden assets or loss of internal reproductive organs (such as hysterectomy).

Emotional crisis due to death or divorce from first spouse (8 = 2nd-from-7th).


In bhava-8, it is often secret or confidential duties which make personal healing transformation (8) emotionally unsustainable. At first, one may accept a more central, visible duty roster (Shani) because it seems like more responsibility will lead to more legitimacy and ego-approval.

Yet when Chandra is in 8, gochara Shani's duty roster suddenly comes to dominate all the habitual (Chandra) investigative, discovering, revealing, depth-plumbing, psychiatric, disaster responding, dangerous, tantrik, occult"classified" pastimes which one previously enjoyed. Shani's work occupies all of one's Time. Emotional needs are ignored, disregarded, belittled. One may be unable whilst steady effort is required to sustain the accustomed deep engagement with mysteries and covert knowledge due to the weight of the burden of managing public affairs.

Much effort is required to defend the public reputation (Shani) and assure the longevity despite a great natural affinity for cycles of self-destruction and rebirth. The hidden liaisons, feeling unimportant, may become temporarily alienated. One's own mother, a secret source of emotional nourishment, may be inaccessible in these stressful times. Anchoring of the self in the realm of secret knowledge and access to hidden wealth and occult truths must be shelved until this seven-and-a-half year transit is complete.

Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-9

Sade Sati in dharmsthana-9

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's religious convictions, authentic personal spirituality and wisdom quality of knowledge.

In extreme cases in Bhava-9, stalled movement toward receipt of spiritual blessings, delay or loss of the guiding professor, guru or father.

Men of God, guru, father, preacher-teacher, professor, priests, pandits, pater-nostri, presbyters, pastors, pontiffs and pontificators, pujari, liturgists, and ritualists - particularly those of a parochial"fundamentalist" (Chandra) persuasion - may acquire agency of invalid authority.

For those whose religious practice is primarily devotional and performed in imitation of a religiously devoted mother (Chandra) the Sade-sati in dharmabhava can be a difficult time.

Bhakti-based * worth-ship * worship is particularly vulnerable to questioning as the native during Sade Sati may feel the pressure of Shani's mature realism which often poses a mismatch to cherished beliefs mixed with religious emotion.

May produce a crisis of faith which ultimately results in more mature religious understanding.

Sade-Sati in 9 imposes a necessary maturation of the religious convictions. Native must acquire a more profound realism, by wizening the merely conventional accepted beliefs of a settled people into a ritually-supported religion that connects the belief system to tangible reality.

At the most basic level, Sade-Sati-9 signals emotional responsibilities toward an aging or resource-insufficient father-guru figure. The father may become a source of much extra work for the native who is driven to the point of collapse by guilt. As the point of collapse, the unending nature of guilt is usually revealed and the native supported by limit-maker Shani does impose some boundaries which make it possible whilst steady effort is required to sustain the relationship with one's parents.

However Chandra-9 mainly indicates a mother-figure (or both parents, or a female preacher-teacher-guru) whose social identity is sustained via the public approval granted to those who express visible religious piety. Generally, the difficulty of Sade-Sati-9 is the unsustainability of mother's (parents') emotionally motivated public ritual piety which has insufficient grounding in material reality.

Within the family, the parents may be deeply emotionally and socially invested in cultural sheltered (Chandra) religious beliefs which cannot be shown to be true at any material level, and their parenting style involves a steady stream of guilt -based should injunctions rather than any sort of pragmatic Shani-based realistic understanding of human behavior.

Other figures who may obtain crisis-agency during Sade-Sati-9 include the spousal partner from a third marriage, any exponent of philosophical truth or theological belief, any spiritualistic guru-figure, any sort of preacher including promoters of exclusive ideologies, and "fundamentalist" parochial "patriotic" politicians who invoke scriptural quotations to prove their righteousness (religious politics = 5th-from-5th = 9).

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-9 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

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Nikolas Roerich Remember

Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-10

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's public dignity, reputation, and social leadership roles.

Sade Sati occurs in kendra Bhava-10 offers a possibility of social recognition and material success -- but only by repeated effort.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-10 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

In extreme cases co-involving other less responsible graha, Shani's transit via karmasthana may produce stalled movement toward professional standing or public disgrace.

However as a rule Professor Shani enjoys dignity in karmasthana where the public grants respect to one who demonstrates qualities of diligence in works, persistence in the face of enduring obstacles, and lawful execution of duties.

  • Raja Yoga 1863-1902 Swami Vivekananda had the "permanent sade-sati" of nishturabashi yoga in 5-Kanya * logical argument. In 1893 during his Sade Sati, Vivekananda worked and traveled extensively in connection with the World Congress of Religions gathering during the Chicago World Fair.

  • After a series of frustrating delays (Shani) in gaining approval to speak - even after he had made an exhausting trip from India specifically to do so - Vivekananda delivered a still-remembered speech. His diligent, detailed and respectfully ecumenical remarks addressed topics of unique spiritual paths (5) and historic values (2) . Shani-5 powerful 10th drishti upon bhava-2 speech, yet Shani-5-parivartamsha-Budha-9 and Budha rules bhava-2.

Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-11

Sade Sati occurs in vriddha-bhava-11

Freezing of the flow of emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's marketplace mobility, profit and income, networks of association, recognition in the assembly, membership in large groups of friends.

In extreme cases, loss of the elder sibling.


In Bhava-11, the dryness and stiffness of Sade Sati is often felt in heavy duties of marketplace earnings and community networking duties which make voluntary friendships (11) unsustainable. At first, one may accept a more central, visible duty roster (Shani) because it seems like more responsibility will lead to more legitimacy and ego-approval.

Yet for Chandra-11, gochara Shani's duty roster suddenly comes to dominate all the habitual schemes for setting and reaching goals, earning income, and developing a reliable social network of affinity-associations, which one previously enjoyed. Shani's work occupies all of one's Time. Emotional needs are ignored, disregarded, belittled. One may be unable to properly relate to elder siblings or friends due to the weight of the burden of regulating the social-economic network in order to ensure marketplace revenues.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-11 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.

Much effort is required to defend the public reputation (Shani). The friends and elder sibling, feeling unimportant, may become temporarily alienated and depart. Personal goal-setting, social networking, and earnings schemes must be shelved until this seven-and-a-half year transit is complete.

However, overall, gochara Shani produces respectable and materially incremental results in bhava-10 and bhava-11. Generally, one must work a bit harder to earn the same financial income, and marketplace activities tend to stagnate (Shani). One's habitual earnings behaviors may be subject forced adjustment due to economic (Shani 11) downturn or scarcity conditions.

Professor Shani's transit via labha bhava may slow progress toward earnings goals or other personal (Chandra) objectives, but the temporary separation from elder siblings or friends due to professional pressures is not unduly harmful unless conditions are exacerbated by the Vimshottari dasha timelord or multiple graha are oppressed by the Shani transit.

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Samchara Shani contact Chandra in bhava-12

main impact in these situations:

  • parents live in a distant land,

  • mother is sequestered in a sanctuary space

  • the native has constructed a fantasy view of himself which one presents to the parents as reality (Shani will enforce genuine reality)

  • parents live in an insulated fantasy-world,

  • parents are deceased and communicate to the native from the astral plane,

  • there is a well-established meditation practice that has become (inadvertently) misleading due to fantasy emotions interfering with the neutrality of the meditational view

Sade Sati occurs in vyaya-bhava-12

Freezing of the flow emotional nourishment whilst steady effort is required to sustain one's privacy, personal imagination, access to sanctuary and spiritual retreat. Loss through funeral expenses and long journeys. Losses through getting lost.

  • In extreme cases, deportation from an adopted country, or imprisonment.

  • Emotional crisis due to animosity in marriage (12 = 6th-from-7th).

Most of the pressure is in the subconscious; it is less the effect of external material pressures and more the result of fantasies, imaginings, dreams, visions, and subconscious emotional (Chandra) expectations about the way things should be which conflicts with Shani's reality, the harsh material fact, what-is.

Simultaneous drishti of Samchara Shani upon 7th from Chandra-12 impacts the marriage partner while the native experiences a drying, hardening, limiting, cramping, or seizing of emotional resources.

Siblings are impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 3rd-from-Chandra; and the emotional energy needed to sustain leadership roles is also impacted due to drishti of Samchara Shani upon 10th-from-Chandra.


Shani gochara bhava-12 often limits the emotional permission to obtain adequate sleep.

Human beings are designed to dream for nearly eight hours in every day. This dreaming (or conscious meditation) is where one may hear the instructions from the ancestors which describe the next step.

Sade-Sati-12 can cause a person to feel (Chandra) as if one has no future, as if one's identity was entirely fabricated in the imagination and now it has been dissolved by realistic Shani. Lack of sleep, lack of reflective or meditative time - these are precursors to mental illness and must be acknowledged even while Shani-samchara-12 may be making it physically impossible to obtain sufficient sleep time.

If the underlying reason for the mental-emotional instability is not understood as temporary lack of sleep, the native may become vulnerable to feeling listless, hopeless, identity-dissolved,"nothing to show for all that effort" or having"failed" expectations because the recharging, reminding, re-instruction that is delivered to us during sleep is temporarily not being received.

It is important to avoid psychological depression during Shani-gochara-12 by simply acknowledging the fact that, due to karmic factors dictated by Shani, one is being deprived of sleep and due to workload realistically it is rarely if at all that one can schedule long periods of meditation or sanctuary retreat.

Therefore lowered expectations will anchor the mental-fields in feelings of failure or dissolution due to Shani-stoppage of intuition and inner-vision. One may be feeling (Chandra) ungrounded in one's next-step, feeling (Chandra) unsupported by a host of spirits who are watching and usually cheering us from the beyond. Rest assured, the astral plane has not gone out of business! It is a karmic requirement that Shani should curtail the imagination for short periods for purposes of"astral housecleaning" when too much fantasy has come to obscure the clear pragmatic mature view of reality.

The authentic next-step is available, but it cannot be generated by the emotionalized imagination. It must be mature, culturally neutral, realistic, and not influenced by the emotional projections of the parents (Chandra).

Sade-Sati occurring in bhava-12 may expose the dream-like world of the parental fantasies about their child (which are too much rooted in parallel lives , 12) and shatter their imaginary view of the world.

A severely unrealistic parent (for example, one institutionalized due to delusions) may be more severely impacted by the Sade-Sati-12, perhaps they may be restrained or contained by physically restrictive methods. However this situation is rare.

Often the emotional need of the parents to recreate a child known from their parallel lives has blurred the native's own ability to create a clear life-path in the present incarnation. Sade-Sati-12 is not generally too difficult so long as Professor Shani's realism, pragmatism, and maturity are acceptable to the native at one's present stage in the current lifetime.

If Shani is well-placed in the nativity, one may welcome the increased realism since it tends to clarify the distinction between fantasy and reality which boundary, in most cultures, is the very definition of mental health.

Sade-Sati-12 produces little harm to the parents except that they may lose some cherished fantasies. They will generally remain in their secure bubble of imaginary projections. The parents especially the mother who is represented by Chandra-12 is generally ensconced in a protective sanctuary of past-live memory and not fully engaged with the modern world. Ideally the mother is substantially engaged in prayer and reflection but Chandra-12 also allows for mentally ill or highly dissociated persons carrying on emotional relationships with imaginary beings.

In any case the caretaker-figure represented by Chandra-12 is not of this world and a mere 2.3 Shani transit will not likely transform them into a world-wise personality.

Rather, the main task is for the native who *is* living in this world to gain a much needed dose of realism about one's own motivation, to see clearly how the caretaker-figure's guilt -driven projections upon the native have pushed one into promoting an unrealistic self-image. Free from the weight of parental guilt one may then -- as Shani proceeds into identity-intensive bhava-1 -- take a mature, pragmatic next step into the material world.


Sade-Sati in Bhava-12 can be extremely demanding upon the mental and emotional health. Often one benefits from short-term psychotherapy and attending meditation retreats.

If you can schedule some therapeutic spa healings, the mind (Chandra) can be further calmed. Ayurvedic Panchakarma treatments can be wonderfully soothing to the ragged mind. But still, Sade Sati is a long haul especially in the most acute phase when gochara Shani enters the nakshatra of radical Chandra.

The most immediate stress release is simply to lower one's expectations - of others, and most importantly, of oneself.

There is usually not much forward movement professionally but it is possible to "tread water" and keep working on low wattage.

The focus is relentlessly interior for 2.3 years while Shani travels via shala-sthana-12.

As with any conditions in bhava-12"the best puja is seva".

Consider offering charitable service to those in a similar condition to oneself but in a slightly worse degree. Seva for those confined to hospitals, dormitories, monasteries, refugee camps, or prisons can be deeply satisfying as it helps burn off the karma of mental imprisonment in one's own imagination.

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Prambanana Mandir Java, Indonesia circa 850-CE

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