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Conditions not Timing


Lightbody Lift-off

by Graha in Randhra Bhava


Conditions of death may be known from bhava-8 or from 8th-from-8th = bhava-3

Makara and Kumbha deaths tend to occur in isolation due to Shani.

Hora Sara,

  • Chapter 26, Shloka 2

translated by R. Santhanam; 1995. Ranjan Pub. p 290-300

"Note the graha occupying Randhra Bhava.

  • If it is Surya, the death is through fire;

  • if it is Chandra: water;

  • if it is Mangala: weapon;

  • if it is Budha: fall;

  • if it is Guru: fever;

  • if it is Shukra: indigestion;

  • And if it is Shani: hunger.

Depending on Ayur Bhava occupying a movable, fixed, or dual Rashi, death will be

  • in foreign,

  • in one's own house,

  • Or while on the move."

Surya in Randhra Bhava-8

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth= inherently self-referential .

Surya-8 = a Radiant Icon representing the Conditions of Death.

One has a sense of one's own importance at the time of release. Death warnings are self-generated; one may announce the death oneself. One has confidence in the moment; one expects to be recognized on the other side.

Death in a hot place. Inside-heat or outside-heat.

  • Fiery heat may be internal (fever) or external (air temperature).

  • Thus, frequently, death via infection (verify randhresha-8 and other markers to determine all factors)

If Surya occupies one of his favorite hot, arid rashi (Mesha, Simha) death may be in the high mountains, in conditions of bright light.

  • In Mesha, high-honor or heroic death.

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is the father, a political colleague, or astral voice of divine intelligence.


if the nativity contains Shani-11, Shani-2, or Shani-6, then Zani's drishti upon bhava-8 will freeze the quick-turning cycle of birth and death. Shani-11, Shani-2, or Shani-6 extends the lifespan.

Chandra in Bhava-8

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = emotionally engaged. the native has strong feelings at the time of death, for better or for worse.

Death warnings are known within the family or circle of intimates; death is often an expression of emotional caring.

Death in the Protective Shell (Chandra). At home-shell, building-shell, ship-shell, on a roadway or in any transport vehicle-shell.

  • NASCAR 1951-2001 champion Dale Earnhardt * death age 49 within his racing automobile from impact of high-speed crash. Chandra in final degree of Makara-8. His randhresha-8 Shani also in bhava-4.

  • Duino Elegies 1875-1926 Rainer Maria Rilke died age 51 of blood-poisoning (diagnosed leukemia) in a sanatorium, caretakers surrounding him, "in the arms of his physicians "

Death in watery circumstances, usually some form of drowning. Cooling water can be inside the body (pneumonia, edema, swelling) or outside the body (ocean, lake, river).

  • In Karkata or Vrishabha, the deceasing native is surrounded by family and/or in company of loved ones.

  • Meena: damage to lymph system, "dissolution" of will to live

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) = a parent, family member, countryman, or guardian of one's cultural roots tradition.

Kuja in Randhra Bhava-8

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = fast and hard, with no warning.

Death by acute injury (internal or external) or blunt-force trauma.

Sudden, forced, or "accidental" circumstances. Trauma can be internal (heart attack) or external.

Body part most acutely affected may be indicated by the rashi, e.g., Mithuna = lungs, arms; Simha = heart; Kumbha = nervous system, skin

Kuja in Vrishabha :

Kuja in Simha :

  • Myocardial infarction, "heart attack", internal explosion injury = cardiac trauma Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda


Kuja in Makara :

Kuja in Kumbha:

Kuja in Meena :

  • sudden over-heating of the lymph system, damage to feet

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a huntsman, military officer, athlete, marksman/shooter, physician-surgeon, psychiatrist, detective or secret agent.

Mangala drishti into 8 suggests that shell-death occurs swiftly while the body is moving through space (such as riding a horse or in a vehicle, or while walking, running, or jumping).

Budha in Randhra Bhava-8

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = mentally agitated or conversational Death warnings are heard inside the native 's own head but one might not convey this secret information.

Death in conversation, or as the result of talking when one ought to be doing something else.

If Budha is less benevolent, death by negative thoughts. the native is involved in conversation with astral beings who guide the transition process. If Budha rules moksha houses, this can be a good situation.

Surrounded by siblings and close friends.

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a close friend or sibling, who lets the native know that it's OK to go -- the conversation will continue in dream space.

Guru in Randhra Bhava-8

  • dramatist, Princess of Monaco Grace Kelly


Swabhava of Guru's friend the energetic, pursuing Mangala

Generally Guru-8 (before considering additional influence such as incoming drishti) is said to produce a long but rather frail life.

According to Das, "longevity, but impaired health".

  • A Room of One's Own 1882-1941 Virginia Woolf + Chandra-yuti-Shani nichha. A brilliant writer, lecturer, and owner of a successful literary publishing business, Virginia Woolf also suffered lifelong anorexia and manic depression cycles, modernly known as bi-polar disorder. Under extreme duress of terror-attack (8) after her home was bombed by Nazi attackers during the London Blitzkrieg of WW-2 and fearing especially for the safety of her Jewish husband in the event of a Nazi invasion, she committed suicide (age 59) by drowning in the River Ouse.

Naturally if other graha such as Mangala occupy 8, the vitality can be much higher.

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = wise and forgiving, generous and abundant to the heirs.

Death in circumstances of religious wisdom, general optimism, and abundance.

Presence of one's children at the time of death. (Not all of the children necessarily, but at least one of the children will be present.)

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a priest, one's father, a child, or religious belief. For a woman, the agent may be her first husband.

Death caused by over-doing abundance in some sense; this is often a very positive sense of freedom and liberation, but may also signify death from gluttony or over-expansion.

One dies in a state of consciousness that one's current destiny has been fulfilled.

If with Kuja, Guru-8 death = sudden but philosophical

  • Autobiography of a Yogi 1893-1952 Swami Yogananda + Mangala

Zukra in bhava-8

  • Jacques Cousteau Oceanographer, Media Figure


Swabhava of Shukra's neutral Mangala

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = sweet and pleasurable, favoring several marriages and harmonious partnerships

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass through the veil) is a sweet one, usually a lover or partner who shares in one's wealth.

If Shukra is in a hospitable rashi, Zukra-8 = Death in the company of those beloved. Sweet or pleasure-addiction agency. The instrumental cause = often something put in the mouth.

In Vrishabha, can be luxurious circumstances. Attendants make the native comfortable during the passage through the corridor of veils.

  • In Karaka, presence of family, usually a death at home.

  • In Kumbha, presence of loving members of a large community.

Less benevolent for first marriage. The spouse has previous or additional partners; for a male the first wife may have been widowed or divorced.

"Death by hanging is indicated

  • if Surya is in Yuvati Bhava along with Rahu or Ketu

  • while Shukra is in Randhra Bhava."

~~ Hora Sara, Chap. 26, Shloka 24

Shani in Randhra Bhava-8 * long life


Typically, quite long-lived. Professor Shani resists flesh-death.

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = inexorably slow and lawful, favoring hard work and antiquity, with regular warnings about scarcity and survival.

Normally, Shani in 8 indicates a remarkably long life .

  • "TM" Maharishi 1917-2008 Mahesh Yogi * died age 91 of natural causes.

There are situations however in which Shani-8 is weakened while other factors are strengthened, so that Shani-8 can permit an abbreviated lifeline.

  • A Room of One's Own 1882-1941 Virginia Woolf + Chandra-yuti-Guru. Her Shani-Meza * nichha is weakened and maraka Guru is stronger by degree as well as by rashi. She left her bio-shell in a suicide drowning, during a Rahu-Shukra period her age 59.

Shani-8 may often wish to make one's final return to the astral identity, but material obligations force a sustained commitment to complete the Earth-based task list.

However graha yuti Shani or casting drishti upon can change this prognosis completely, so that circumstances of death are realized rather earlier in the incarnation.

Death ultimately caused by hard work and enforced by the laws of time and space.

Whether Shani enforces an extended tour of duty or whether other graha cut short the native 's longevity, the main cause of death is exhaustion from Overwork and worry.

One may die in the workplace or while expending lawful effort . For most people, the life's main workplace is the home or the agricultural lands surrounding the home.

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is a law enforcer, a task-master, or Father Time. In case of Shani one may feel that there is additional work to be done on Earth, but the grim reaper says "It's Time to Go."

Cause of death (esp. if Shani = rogesha-6 ) may = lingering but often undetected or masked illness, a chronic exhausting condition which the native hides from others in order to complete one's work without interruption.

  • Masking: England-Queen 1533-1603 Elizabeth-1 = long-term lead poisoning (8 = poisons) from her lead-based (Shani = lead)"ceruse" theatrical (randhresha-8 Chandra-5) cosmetic face-paint used to disguise (8 the pock-marks on her small-pox scarred face

For a woman, Shani represents the second husband. In bhava-8, Shani as a death agent suggests that one psycho-social cause of death may be exhaustion from stress of divorce or impending divorce.

If outside the customary workplace, the native will nevertheless be engaged in work-related tasks such as planning and communicating about work tasks, or even dreaming about one's work.

Rahu in bhava-8

  • scientific discovery of radium Marie Curie

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = caused by something traveling outside its accustomed area, breaking boundaries (aneurysm, stroke). Erratic warnings. the native may have a desire to experience the conditions of death.

Rahu indicates a death from accumulated effects passionate desires. Rahu is not a Maraka unless his lord is a Maraka.

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is typically signified by Rahu's ruler .

Throughout life, native risks one's longevity in tantric or secretive undertakings. However the physical life span will not be harmed unless some other graha supports Rahu'

  • In Mesha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of war and competition. Rahu shows a death that is celebrated due to native's heroic personality.

In Vrishabha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of beauty and financial well-being . Rahu shows a death that is celebrated due to native's heroic personality.

In Mithunaya, a passion for secret conversation, hidden coupling

In Simha, Rahu has a great desire to know the secrets of political power and divine truth. Eventually this passion takes its toll on the heart of the physical body.

  • In Makara, Rahu has a great desire to know the secret structures of life * Einstein

    Eventually this passion takes its toll on the bones of the physical body.

  • In Kumbha, Rahu gives a great desire to know the secret connections between human bodies and the electrical network of conceptual thoughts Eventually this passion takes its toll on the nerves of the physical body.

In Meena, Rahu gives a great desire to know the secret pathways which connect waking life to the dream state; and ways to establish intuitive connections between people who do not speak the same verbal language Eventually this passion takes its toll on the emotions, the feet, and the lymph system of the physical body.

Ketu in bhava 8

Turning of the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth = caused by withdrawal, apathy, disengagement, disinterest.

One is cut from the body or cut-down by a sudden splitting action; when in a medical coma or in samadhi; in a highly detached, scattered, dispersed mental condition .

  • Imagine 1940-1980 Beatle John Lennon was murdered age 40 on the New York City street in front of his home.

There is no fear of death as Ketu-8 = quite non-reactive (Ketu) to the turnings of the cycle of self-destruction and rebirth.

The circumstances of death may be violent

  • or sudden, or harsh = Vrischika, Mesha

  • or sensually indulged = Meena, Vrishabha, Thula

  • or emotional = Karkata

  • or brittle, bitter, or prolonger = Makara-Kumbha

  • or dreamlike and hazy = Meena

But whatever the external environment, Ketu-8 is quite unconcerned with the consequences of one's separation from the physical body.

Agent of death (the liberator, who gives final permission to pass over) is typically an astral personality (someone not in human form, or who has only briefly possessed a human form) whose identity is indicated by the bhava and rashi of Ketu's lord.

Typically one enjoys a clairvoyant prescience regarding the coming of death, its ways and means, and larger cosmic context.

the native is psychologically disengaged from the body in advance of the physical separation. A certain numbness or deep resignation to the inevitability of death is the dominant experience during the time of the Turning of the cycle of birth and death.

Hora Sara

  • Chap. 26, Shloka 35

"If Ketu is in the 8th house,

while the 8th lord is in an angle,

malefics in the 12th and the lagna lord be devoid of strength,

the native 's death will be due to his resorting to bad ways."

Staying Realistic

14th Dalai Lama 1935- Policy of Kindness Tenzing Gyatso

  • The Compassionate Life . (2003). Wisdom Pub.

"As a basis for change, we need to recognize that as long as we live in this world we will encounter problems, things that obstruct the fulfillment of our goals.

  • If, when these happen, we lose hope and become discouraged, we diminish our ability to face these difficulties.

  • If, on the other hand, we remember that not just we but everyone has to undergo suffering, this more realistic perspective will increase our determination and our capacity to overcome troubles.

By remembering the suffering of others, by feeling compassion for others, our own suffering becomes manageable.

  • Indeed, with this attitude, each new obstacle can be seen as yet another valuable opportunity to improve our mind, another opportunity for deepening our compassion!

  • With each new experience, we can strive gradually to become more compassionate; that is, we can develop both genuine sympathy for others' suffering and the will to help remove their pain.

As a result, our own serenity and inner strength will increase."

When Does Consciousness Enter the Physical Birth?

Consciousness at the Crossroads: conversations with the Dalai Lama on Brain Science and Buddhism

edited by Zara Houshmand, Robert B. Livingston, and B. Alan Wallace, published by Snow Lion Publications

"On some occasions, people faint.

Even when your breath temporarily stops, during that moment, there is a reduced level of consciousness.

Consciousness is most reduced late in the course of dying.

Even after all physical functions cease, we believe that the"I," or"self," still exists. Similarly, just at the beginning of life, there must be a subtle form of consciousness to account for the emergence of consciousness in the individual.

  • We must explore further the point at which consciousness enters into a physical location.

  • At conception, the moment when and the site where consciousness interacts with the fertilized egg is something to be discovered, although there are some reference to this in the texts....

The Buddhist scriptures do deal with it, but I am interested to see what science has to say about this.

  • During this period we believe that without the subtle consciousness, there would be a life beginning without consciousness. If that were the case then no one could ever recollect experiences from their parallel life .

  • It is also in terms of Buddhist beliefs relating to this topic that Buddhism expounds its theory of cosmology: how the universe began and how it later degenerates.

Based on this metaphysical reasoning and other arguments, and based on the testimony of individuals who are able to recollect their experiences in parallel lives very vividly, Buddhists make this claim.

I am a practitioner, so based on my own limited experiences, and the experiences of my friends, I cannot say with one hundred percent certainty that there is a subtle consciousness.

Scientists don't posit consciousness in the same sense that Buddhists do.

At the moment of conception, however, there has to be something that prevents the sperm and egg from simply rotting, and causes it to grow into a human body.

  • When does that occur?

  • Why does that occur?"


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